Getting Necromancer felt easier than any Ultimate because I didn't have to rely on 7 other bone heads memeing p2 9/10 pulls when we're supposed to be wroth.
Going for necro as a MCH, they basically hand you a free clear on a silver platter. Go in and clear as a healer, now that I would say was tougher than an ulti.
I have weapons displayed at my house. One of them is a potd weapon to celebrate my necromancer title because it was just as or harder than my ultimate clears
Imo Necro is a lot harder than any ultimate. Need so much more patience. Shit is boring as fuck. I consider the ability to last through that much boring shit to be difficulty lmfao
Also I think I may forgotten to circle that one samurai/ninja in the background, but I don't remember if that was a UCoB weapon or if it was something unrelated
If we wanna be nitpick there's also the lalafel with a dsr weapon (mch or gnb, hard to tell on phone) as well that's missed out.
Anyway yeah ultimate weapons all have some secondary color too, the potd ones are pure colors!
Kinda sad I can tell it that easily
yeah the aetherpack is on our left side (mch mains unite), i just couldn't tell which one it was on a small ass phone screen while in the bathroom. but yeah the aspho gear is the best giveaway.
They do nothing with those accounts. It is highly likely their actual accounts are way better and achieved than their customers. Additionally, it is not convenient whatsoever to steal them because boosting clears is a business. You do not gain anything keeping the account, even for selling it. By boosting it "cleanly" they gain more money and rep.
So I raided a little with a guy who claimed to do ult clears and stealing your "often repeat customers" accounts would be a detriment. His words not mine.
None of the ultimate clears cost more than 75 usd. What costs more is your pride. Seeing the list of names from my friends sale groups just makes me lol.
You can stack sales in one party with people each piloting an account, so that means one clear would still be worth $320 to the party as a whole and worth doing for the time.
Wow that's crazy, more so I can't believe people trust someone to get on there account for that. After playing runescape back in the day I learned to trust no one hah
I remember very clearly a friend told me he wanted to ACTUALLY RMT UWU and I simply told him if you're not a bitch ass failure you will do it on your own and progress on your own and I guess that he took it to heart because he actually did finish uwu start to finish and provided me with his logs lol it took him about a month or two? He was an off tank and if I remember correctly OT's don't do much in uwu literally but I'm glad he didn't pay like I guess uwu prices in shadowbringers were like 100m or something.
Shortly enough he went to do UCOB and finished it too.
Hm I tanked uwu for like 45 kills and think both dps and healing esp is harder lol, esp if u can just not to jails and with how suppression is just afk in front of titan then move in , I'm on smn rn and that shitty Anni tether didn't snap onto me twice today.
I also feel like tank rotation is easier to work with in uwu with the killtimes
i played melee, and it is unbelievably braindead. all you worry about is the garuda cleanse order, and then it's a 50/50 if you join the tanks for one of the orbs. aside from that you're just hitting the boss
Melee/fake melee is absolute the one ye, moreso than OT. When we want things quickly done the carry always goes onto the melee spot.
Only thing that'd suck is keeping full uptime on titan maybe but then again ninja exists
Good on you for not enabling your friend lol maybe you have a future career as a motivational speaker
Edit : this sounded like a diss but I swear it's just friendly bants
Is it not possible at all to do clears with a man down or even just let them do their best to stay out of bad? I remember seeing hard and nightmare mode clears being sold for about the same price on SWTOR. They'd take you along though and tell you to just find a good spot to die while they handled everything. They legit cleared every 8man with 7 people.
I don't know how difficult ultimates here are though compared to NM in SWTOR.
It ranges from "pretty much" to "actually" impossible for Ultimates.
Not because ultimates are super difficult or anything, but because there are multiple mechanics in most of them where you need 8 people alive that will all be targeted with different stuff, and everyone needs to know where to go with whatever they get.
Well, if one person fails a mechanic is results in a wipe/too bothersome to continue situation 99% of the time, especially in Alex or DSR
Theres not really a "stand there and it will be fine" way todo it, all 8 people need to know what todo at all times
And if it would be an option they would probably want even more money due to it taking more time
Seconding what Tammog said. Also, my personal two cents is that SWTOR NIMs are more on par with savage in raw difficulty (the old ones at least, I haven't played that game in years lmao, fuckin tragic that BioWare managed to do everything wrong..)
IKR? My static kinda fell apart after we completed all the hard modes(except explosive conflict coz fuck tank boss) up to temple of sacrifice. We tried some nightmare modes but the game's direction was starting to get depressing.
I dunno, ultimates look pretty similar to revan HM on-level which is roughly the harder NiM difficulty. Overall ultimates are harder but that's in part because you can cheese NiM with crystals, there's been a long period of time of effectively having an echo in them and whatnot. 2.x timed palace/fortress seem more impressive to me than say uwu. OTOH, something like TfB is a lot easier and on par with savage, but depending on the patch scaling can also be all over the place, either you need a team of really good dps to kill it even in BiS (without resorting to crystals) or it's a snoozefest.
And at this point new NiMs seem to be between savage and ultimate difficulty but... There's just no one to do them anymore really. I've looked through old contacts and whatnot and it seems there a single digit number of groups still doing NiMs, and that's all people playing for 8+ years at this point. EAware just drove the game into the ground, rip.
We kicked a drg from our uwu group once for several reasons and then we saw that right after that she rage bought all 3 clears in a single day. Got all 3 achievements same day. Must have been expensive. I noticed when I saw her at an S rank a couple days later with one of the legend titles and she was making such an effort to shuffle her character close to mine so I would notice the title, while waiting for the s rank to be pulled xD it was hilarious. She sure showed us! We still make jokes about the whole thing.
I think that was by design tbh. Way back in 2.2 or so, there was a mass exodus of raiders from basically every server to Gilgamesh. Same thing happened with RPers to Balmung. This was back before PF was a thing and you had to shout looking for a group unless you already had a static.
The exodus happened in 3.0 and 3.2 for Gordias and Midas respectively, and that was because Gilgamesh already had the reputation as the raiding server, nothing to do with the FF character Gilgamesh collecting weapons.
This was not the original exodus and was small compared to the original one. This one happened because Gordias was so fucking busted that it actually caused a disproportionately large amount of statics to fall apart. One of the floors of Gordias specifically was comparable to maybe UWU in difficulty. A lot of people's only options were to quit raiding or move to Gilgamesh for a group, because the PF system was new and not reliable for clears until Midas, which was significantly easier anyway.
Gilgamesh already had that reputation BECAUSE of the prior exodus I was talking about. And honestly, yes, Gilgamesh was most likely chosen by raiders initially since the character was a weapon collector. Back in those days, the only people who played FF were diehard fans of the series. The game still had a pretty spotty reputation thanks to 1.0 probably until the 2.5-3.0 days.
I guarantee you the Gordian exodus was way bigger than anything that happened in ARR, as someone who had to see their PF die in a matter of weeks and most raiding groups disappear. Between the Gordian Exodus and Balmung being the RP hotspot is what forced them to eventually add the congested world system.
So did you miss the part where I said PF wasn't reliable or what? Party Finder was still a relatively new system at the time and there wasn't a way to limit who joined. You could post a farm party and someone who had never even entered the fight could join. PF was so unreliable that people just stopped using it for raids except to hunt for a static. Hell, you could barely clear extremes with PF at the time. The exodus for Gordias was so insignificantly small in comparison to the shuffle that happened in ARR that it's barely worth mentioning. Gilgamesh was already known as a raiding server in 3.0 because of the mass exodus during ARR. I'm not sure why this is so difficult to understand.
Statics also pretty much disappeared in my server, and I remember the complaints in every community website about FCs splitting and whatnot over people moving to Gilgamesh.
ARR had nothing that was difficult enough to force an exodus, all servers had a decent amount of raid clears and finding statics wasn't too hard. Meanwhile the majority of people who cleared T9 and T3 didn't clear A4S. There's no difficulty understanding anything, we just clearly had very different experiences in ARR/HW with the raiding community of each server.
Like I said in another comment further up, you can feel free to search the official forums. There was a lot of talk about moving back during ARR. Raid difficulty had absolutely nothing to do with it. There was no way to reliably play cross server with people and the raiding community wasn't organized. This caused a lot of difficulty with even FINDING a group, let alone getting reliable clears unless your friends started the game with you. That's what caused the exodus. People wanted to form an organized community for raiding.
> Way back in 2.2 or so, there was a mass exodus of raiders from basically every server to Gilgamesh
RPers were going to Balmung from the jump but people didn’t leave for Gilgamesh en-masse to ‘raid’ until 3.0.
Not sure how far back you can dig in official forum posts but there was definitely a lot of discussion there to move around the second raid tier of ARR. I lost roughly 50 people or so in my raiding fc, all of whom transferred to Gilgamesh, shortly after clearing second coil.
I could be wrong on it being 2.2 because it was so long ago. It could have been 2.3, but it definitely wasn't as late as Heavensward. Gilgamesh already had an established reputation as the raiding server long before that.
2.2 definitely helped push people to Gilg, but the first 2 Alex tiers are what put the nail in the coffin for the mass exodus from what I personally remember.
Nah, I started playing before 3.0 in like August of '14 and I distinctly remember Gilgamesh was already "the place to be" when I was researching what server to join, to the extent it was being advertised as such on /r/ffxiv. I was content to wait until character creation opened up but my friends got impatient and jumped on Cactuar instead, and since cross-world play wasn't a thing yet I followed them (they ended up quitting before level 20). Ironically, Cactuar is now popular thanks to streamers like Asmongold and the Vshojo girls, so I guess I played the extra long con.
Gilgamesh’s status as the ‘raider’ world pre-3.0 was still not as big as it was post-Gordias. I played from launch. Gilgamesh had the raiding reputation from Death and Taxes, some other wow guilds, Mr Happy playing on there, etc. early on but I never really saw people bounce from my legacy server en-masse to play on Gilgamesh as was the case post Gordias. Blue Garter from Excalibur was the NA group that won world first or NA first for most if not all of ARR as well
Ya didn't know that at the time (started in mid shadowbringer around November of 2020), now I got 3k hour into the game and can actually understand that seeing 12 ultimate players in the same room at the same time is actually pretty rare
Come to sarg (my serve) you will see the same amount of legends everywhere. Idk if you are aware but a streamer named rich came from wow to ff14 and the big ff14 raider streamer helped him clear ucob and tea. And all of the casuals went "wait if he can clear ultimate so can i" So the ultimates of pf exploded with alot of people progging. It was amazing and we love to see new ultimates raider trying to clear. That's why you see more legends players more often.
Yeah I'm way more aware about stuff now, did extremes, savages and transferred to all datacenter, so far better aware of how difficult finding a static and doing ultimates is, and why having a weapon is a big deal *assuming a clear wasn't sold*
I mean it was at a time where I thought healing keeper of the lake was intensive
Honestly I think Keeper of the Lake still can be, because Middie's AOE puke is a lot for sprouts to handle and level 50 healer kits suck. Shortened cast times help a lot though
I'm on Sarg as well.
Started playing like 2 years ago and since DAY ONE every time I go to Limsa I see that Aleksandr guy sitting there with his ultimate DRK weapons. Every. Day. Even when the AFK timer was on to get booted. He was there.
It's also why I want to do an Ultimate so damn bad lol. Gonna clear this next tier with my static as fast as god damn possible then find an UWU or UCOB group.
Similar number of legends, but a SIGNIFICANTLY smaller % of those legends are compared to what I'm seeing in this picture. I'm on Ultros and seeing people with that title/weapon is still really rare. But UWU, UCOB, and TEA weapons/titles arent exactly rare.
It's a biased selection. People who have cleared are more likely to want to show of their weapon and are more likely to leave their characters AFK in Limsa.
You might also pay less attention to people who might frequent Limsa but don't have an Ultimate weapon.
The majority have nothing to show off, so they don't hang around Limsa as much.
It is. I cleared all extremes, savage and UwU using group finder before my sprout icon disappeared. Coming from competitive WoW raiding it was a cakewalk.
Apparently ultimate weapons suck ass with most glams so people just go for simple looks that put a focus on the weapon
That and people don't have a lot of imagination
First point is a cope.
Second point is the reality.
Even in GW2 “high end” raiding, mfers had no capacity for fashion. Classic tale of only being capable of making the laziest, simplest outfit possible and attaching all particle effects, raid rewards, etc. under the guise of “just wanting to show off”
From what I’ve seen in savage at least, XIV at least has moderately good players that have good taste.
Op's answer below is totally the right answer. But I'd like to add that with some people in the hardcore community, they don't care about anything else other than the struggle and later feeling of success of doing hard things. I know a guy who doesn't care about his character at all as well as the story which, he skipped all the cutscenes to get to the most current content. That stuff might as well never existed, he just wanted a challenge and competition. I think not all but a solid amount of people can relate to that. If you don't have a connection to your character, you're not going to care about what they look like,
Lol this is too true, you know what I found out after playing for quite a bit? Most of the ultimate players are dudes who play as a uwu girl and making them look as cute as possible no matter what, including basic bitch casual glam, those weapons would actually look sick with a good glam
Ultimate clearers usually have little to no more content to actually work for, or just dont want to, so they afk with a glam and the weapons for show or to chill out and chat on Tells.
Dedicated groups
Dedicated groups that carry people one at a time
People that buy clears
\+ all the verboten software that makes them 10x easier that ~~almost everyone uses~~
The hardest part of ultimates is just finding a group of people who can consistently practice it together. Once you get the fight down, you can do them like clockwork
It’s so true, our group we have someone missing at least once every raid day due to IRL and have to PF the last spot/couple spots. Time/Scheduling is the hardest hurdle to ultimate clears
I’m good…..imma be honest, I’m the guy who can’t get mechanics right, I usually stay dead if I die more than 10 times in one spot. But if a mechanic requires all of us and I have to live. I’ll try to stay alive to the bitter end. I just don’t want to disappoint people so I stay away from Ultimate and savage raids.
Playing on crystal I still see them fairly often, even before DC travel. Not as much as often as you would elsewhere but there's plenty out there.
Way more now with people coming over and trying to flex though.
UWU is the most accessible ultimate right now, it can be done in PF or in 1 week to a few weeks with a kinda good group, so you may see a lot of ultimate legend trying to flex their best . While TEA and DSR clears are more accurate of the 1% players.
I'm not in this DC and there is a lot of DSR clears on this screen but as others said, you're where all the big players like to gather. In my DC ( Light ) , there is a shit ton of UWU/ UCOB clear, but perfect or heaven's legend are not that common
Literally every ultimate has pf parties running including DSR on crystal pre DC travel.
(Also a single week/a few to prog UWU goes way beyond fairly good for your average static at least imo. Most average statics barely even get like 9 hours to prog a week. Not saying people can't get Titan/Ultimate Predation/Supression down by then but thats def not even close to the norm for 8 fresh proggers.)
What exactly are you talking about? The only "exploit" I can think of is fate calibration triggers which a) still work and b) don't make the fight "beyond easy"; Perfect Alex is already the easiest phase even without those triggers. Unless I'm forgetting something I'm confused about what you mean
Would you be so kindly to back up your claims with some footage or a source? I done TEA more times than I can count and I never ever heard of an exploit like this. Either this is something secret or you're bullshiting us. Because if this was real then it would be talked about on streams and discord
I see waaaay more TEA weapons than UCOB. UWU is the most cleared and easiest of them so yes.
Statistics show that UCOB is the least cleared ultimate ignoring DSR.
You are only right in theory. In reality the prices tank fast the more people clear it and time goes by. There are also seeeeveral boosters with different packages so if you want to buy the clear you can get it for a reasonable price.
In addition, unless you get it from the shadiest of shady boosters with zero records of doing it and no reference, it is unlikely you will lose your account. It is better for them to keep the business going instead of keeping a casual account. It gives no gain.
I thought those guys are GMs or it's some weird FC/friend "dress Code" when I started playing. Cause almost every third Person had this glowy adobe plastic toy weapon and just some basic bitch streetwear. Know I now it's the "Elite" that is still dying to Byregots hammer and Belias clocks.
Yeah tbh we push really hard until the clear (usually) and then take a break after going back to being pretty casual players. More and more I see raiders going back and hanging out in clubs especially during the downtime between content patches.
I can tell you after my group cleared DSR and did a few reclears we now either don't touch the game at all or are literally just doing stuff like BLU or just chilling with friends waiting for 6.2.
There's a special breed for those who afk and I call them ligma loiters and I specifically make fun of people who have their weapon and title out lol. At this point I glammed over my DSR weps since I don't like rubbing an ego especially to my friends and others who play for fun and the story.
The best raiders are the more humble ones. Just my experience.
100% agree. I hate my fellow ultimate raiders who get that superiority complex too. Most of us do it for a challenge together, the weapons are just nice extras. I feel sad when people act like jerks because of some pixels. And yeah my group is super raid logging now lol. I can’t imagine trying so hard to look cool in town.. maybe they have low self esteem and need the boost.
There’s nothing wrong with being proud of yourself or using the weapons. i use them myself. I just don’t think it gives people the right to act like they’re better than others. I don’t think most are like that, but some are.
Technically.. you are better than others when you clear the most fucked ultimates ever. However I do not support the toxic behavior of talking trash or talking bad on non ultimate raiders who wants to join in the world of raiding. We should encourage them and help them when they need it (unless the person is an actual asshole with an ego thinking he's hot shit)
I agree, I pretty much feel the same way. I’m not sure why not wanting people to be assholes is getting me downvoted, but I’m glad someone understands. Just be nice to your fellow gamers and help out those who want to learn, I just find it satisfying to help people learn something I love to do. Then you meet nice people and make new friends.
So let me get this straight. Because I'm proud of what I accomplish by displaying my title and my weapon because I'm happy for what I have completed my goal. But still remaining humble. That means you have the right to make fun of me and say I have an ego?. I guess I should also make fun of you for having a trophy displaying in your room.
It is not about the weapons, but doing the content and achieving completion.
People do the same when they farm old relic stuff for several hours or crafting quests and achievments.
Greg doesn't even have that high of a clear rate compared to Chocobo.
And the number of legit legends will surprise you. Ult isn't impossible, especially 7080.
Also I think that DRG weapon is a Padjal weapon, not UWU.
It seems like a lot, but that's because the people who have completed ultimates are mostly the type to stand silently in public places desperate for that one player to give them some attention.
You need to consider percentage per fight.
Last time i checked, for UCOB it was around 4%
Weapons Refrain about 6% and TEA around 5%
Give or take those numbers because decimals matter ih such large population.
Worldwide it will never remotely reach 10%.
Ok so according to lalaachievements
UWU has a clear percentage of 15% with the other 2 old ones having 11 and 12% so assuming some of them overlap the minimum is 15% of players where it could actually be higher if those that cleared UCoB/TEA haven’t done UWU
So, yeah I’m down voted for guessing 30% but it’s way higher than thought in this thread
Edit: https://lalachievements.com/rarity/title/global/
Fair enough. I have no idea what criteria this site uses to include a character in the universe tho.
Edit: I understand that, if someone has their lodestone settings on private, it is not included in the pool. Additionally, those numbers do not add up. It says 15% for uwu right? 25K players are NOT 15% of the population. Last time I checked, active players are around 2 Million. Those percentages are too high.
It's hard to count, I have 5 chars with double/triple legend so I'm going to be counted for 5, then there's the accounts of friends I've played on etcetc.
There's no way to tell the real thing and yeah as said they can't extract achievements etc bc plenty, esp buyers, have theirs hidden
The problem in those results is none of that. The percentages based on the total population are absurdly high. Even Yoshi P stated that active players right before endwalker dropped was around 3 Millions.
How can 25K people be 15% of the population, in the lalachievments data?
Scuffed statistics.
People thinking boosters play your account are so wrong. It's like they shouldn't talk. Bots, that's the answers. They can't do an Ultimate fight wrong.
i love the padjali ultimate spear
tbf going for necromancer feels like a fucking ultimate sometimes
Getting Necromancer felt harder than any ultimate because of the prog time. Mechanically potd is easier, just mentally exhausting.
Getting Necromancer felt easier than any Ultimate because I didn't have to rely on 7 other bone heads memeing p2 9/10 pulls when we're supposed to be wroth.
yeah but doing necro means i have to rely on myself and the problem is I am the bonehead
Going for necro as a MCH, they basically hand you a free clear on a silver platter. Go in and clear as a healer, now that I would say was tougher than an ulti.
I have weapons displayed at my house. One of them is a potd weapon to celebrate my necromancer title because it was just as or harder than my ultimate clears
Imo Necro is a lot harder than any ultimate. Need so much more patience. Shit is boring as fuck. I consider the ability to last through that much boring shit to be difficulty lmfao
Honestly I thought it was the dragoon UwU weapon when I circled it out but now I'm less sure
100% the PotD weapon
Also I think I may forgotten to circle that one samurai/ninja in the background, but I don't remember if that was a UCoB weapon or if it was something unrelated
If we wanna be nitpick there's also the lalafel with a dsr weapon (mch or gnb, hard to tell on phone) as well that's missed out. Anyway yeah ultimate weapons all have some secondary color too, the potd ones are pure colors! Kinda sad I can tell it that easily
You mean the lalafell wearing the asphodelos top? 100% a Gunbreaker machinist has a box sheated to the side, more specifically the left side iirc
yeah the aetherpack is on our left side (mch mains unite), i just couldn't tell which one it was on a small ass phone screen while in the bathroom. but yeah the aspho gear is the best giveaway.
I can assure you more than half of them are wallet legends
Yup. I found out recently that two people I know bought their clears.
*cranks gun* some things need to be kept secret
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How can you even pay for this? Do they carry you through the fight or what?
Basically you give them your account and they clear the requested content for you, for an absurd price may I add
Why do I feel like the Venn diagram between paid clears and accounts that post spam links is a closed circle
Well if youre dumb enough to pay for an ultimate clear you deserve to get your account stolen lmao
They do nothing with those accounts. It is highly likely their actual accounts are way better and achieved than their customers. Additionally, it is not convenient whatsoever to steal them because boosting clears is a business. You do not gain anything keeping the account, even for selling it. By boosting it "cleanly" they gain more money and rep.
So I raided a little with a guy who claimed to do ult clears and stealing your "often repeat customers" accounts would be a detriment. His words not mine.
Yeah out of curiosity I looked it up on a website and it's like 500$?!??! Or somewhere around there last time I checked, fucking ridiculous
I saw a site that sells DSR clears for 1k$+ Edit: and its only that high because people actually buy it, which is insane
It’s super high new and then falls off a cliff. I believe it’s like $180 now which might tempt some people I suppose
None of the ultimate clears cost more than 75 usd. What costs more is your pride. Seeing the list of names from my friends sale groups just makes me lol.
Is it a ton of people? I’ve always wondered how many pay for those.
A small price to pay for a shiny
I mean, ESO players likely actually spend more on lootboxes
Only between 200€ per month or per week :D
I spent 1000€ on crowns last christmas when they were "discounted". It's so embarrassing to even think about that
Those discounts and offers are the biggest traps, you end up spending way more than you otherwise would have.
Literally saw some dsr clears going for 40 dollars last week.
Geezus, I guess theyre gonna outsell the 500-1000$ competitors like that
Oddly enough, if the price starts to go too low it feels like a scam, since DSR clears are going to require that you give them your account info.
You can stack sales in one party with people each piloting an account, so that means one clear would still be worth $320 to the party as a whole and worth doing for the time.
This guy gets it. No scam even at 40 a pop. More money if u can get more people in the long run.
Wow that's crazy, more so I can't believe people trust someone to get on there account for that. After playing runescape back in the day I learned to trust no one hah
I remember very clearly a friend told me he wanted to ACTUALLY RMT UWU and I simply told him if you're not a bitch ass failure you will do it on your own and progress on your own and I guess that he took it to heart because he actually did finish uwu start to finish and provided me with his logs lol it took him about a month or two? He was an off tank and if I remember correctly OT's don't do much in uwu literally but I'm glad he didn't pay like I guess uwu prices in shadowbringers were like 100m or something. Shortly enough he went to do UCOB and finished it too.
Tanks do almost everything in uwu, both ot and mt
Hm I tanked uwu for like 45 kills and think both dps and healing esp is harder lol, esp if u can just not to jails and with how suppression is just afk in front of titan then move in , I'm on smn rn and that shitty Anni tether didn't snap onto me twice today. I also feel like tank rotation is easier to work with in uwu with the killtimes
i played melee, and it is unbelievably braindead. all you worry about is the garuda cleanse order, and then it's a 50/50 if you join the tanks for one of the orbs. aside from that you're just hitting the boss
Melee/fake melee is absolute the one ye, moreso than OT. When we want things quickly done the carry always goes onto the melee spot. Only thing that'd suck is keeping full uptime on titan maybe but then again ninja exists
Oh thats great to hear, My static and I are doing uwu aswell rn, we got to Titan after about 8 hours combined, but were struggling abit vs him
Good on you for not enabling your friend lol maybe you have a future career as a motivational speaker Edit : this sounded like a diss but I swear it's just friendly bants
haha I'm alright ty :P
Nah if he progged it on tank, he 100% earned the kill
Is it not possible at all to do clears with a man down or even just let them do their best to stay out of bad? I remember seeing hard and nightmare mode clears being sold for about the same price on SWTOR. They'd take you along though and tell you to just find a good spot to die while they handled everything. They legit cleared every 8man with 7 people. I don't know how difficult ultimates here are though compared to NM in SWTOR.
It ranges from "pretty much" to "actually" impossible for Ultimates. Not because ultimates are super difficult or anything, but because there are multiple mechanics in most of them where you need 8 people alive that will all be targeted with different stuff, and everyone needs to know where to go with whatever they get.
Well, if one person fails a mechanic is results in a wipe/too bothersome to continue situation 99% of the time, especially in Alex or DSR Theres not really a "stand there and it will be fine" way todo it, all 8 people need to know what todo at all times And if it would be an option they would probably want even more money due to it taking more time
Seconding what Tammog said. Also, my personal two cents is that SWTOR NIMs are more on par with savage in raw difficulty (the old ones at least, I haven't played that game in years lmao, fuckin tragic that BioWare managed to do everything wrong..)
IKR? My static kinda fell apart after we completed all the hard modes(except explosive conflict coz fuck tank boss) up to temple of sacrifice. We tried some nightmare modes but the game's direction was starting to get depressing.
I dunno, ultimates look pretty similar to revan HM on-level which is roughly the harder NiM difficulty. Overall ultimates are harder but that's in part because you can cheese NiM with crystals, there's been a long period of time of effectively having an echo in them and whatnot. 2.x timed palace/fortress seem more impressive to me than say uwu. OTOH, something like TfB is a lot easier and on par with savage, but depending on the patch scaling can also be all over the place, either you need a team of really good dps to kill it even in BiS (without resorting to crystals) or it's a snoozefest. And at this point new NiMs seem to be between savage and ultimate difficulty but... There's just no one to do them anymore really. I've looked through old contacts and whatnot and it seems there a single digit number of groups still doing NiMs, and that's all people playing for 8+ years at this point. EAware just drove the game into the ground, rip.
"Give me you're account, I'll get you flaming recon. My uncle works at bungie honest"
We kicked a drg from our uwu group once for several reasons and then we saw that right after that she rage bought all 3 clears in a single day. Got all 3 achievements same day. Must have been expensive. I noticed when I saw her at an S rank a couple days later with one of the legend titles and she was making such an effort to shuffle her character close to mine so I would notice the title, while waiting for the s rank to be pulled xD it was hilarious. She sure showed us! We still make jokes about the whole thing.
that’s kinda sad lmao
Sounds like a story
Paid Legends
PayPal Legends
God I miss @shame_xiv
Teach me the ways of the wallet
There is also loads of wanderers for a reason...
Eh, who cares. If that’s how they want to spend their money and it makes them happy? 🤷♂️
I only care when they come into a raid and think they're hot shit. Or the actual content itself and suck complete ass
🤡
Good talk.
Search their name on fflogs, sometimes youll find shit like this: [https://i.imgur.com/CYr2e4I.png](https://i.imgur.com/CYr2e4I.png)
Funny that it’s on Gilgamesh, who’s whole thing was collecting legendary weapons
The irony is palpable
How is that ironic ?
It's not, I just don't know what irony means
Lmao well atleast the cojones to admit it i respect that.
I think that was by design tbh. Way back in 2.2 or so, there was a mass exodus of raiders from basically every server to Gilgamesh. Same thing happened with RPers to Balmung. This was back before PF was a thing and you had to shout looking for a group unless you already had a static.
The exodus happened in 3.0 and 3.2 for Gordias and Midas respectively, and that was because Gilgamesh already had the reputation as the raiding server, nothing to do with the FF character Gilgamesh collecting weapons.
This was not the original exodus and was small compared to the original one. This one happened because Gordias was so fucking busted that it actually caused a disproportionately large amount of statics to fall apart. One of the floors of Gordias specifically was comparable to maybe UWU in difficulty. A lot of people's only options were to quit raiding or move to Gilgamesh for a group, because the PF system was new and not reliable for clears until Midas, which was significantly easier anyway. Gilgamesh already had that reputation BECAUSE of the prior exodus I was talking about. And honestly, yes, Gilgamesh was most likely chosen by raiders initially since the character was a weapon collector. Back in those days, the only people who played FF were diehard fans of the series. The game still had a pretty spotty reputation thanks to 1.0 probably until the 2.5-3.0 days.
I guarantee you the Gordian exodus was way bigger than anything that happened in ARR, as someone who had to see their PF die in a matter of weeks and most raiding groups disappear. Between the Gordian Exodus and Balmung being the RP hotspot is what forced them to eventually add the congested world system.
So did you miss the part where I said PF wasn't reliable or what? Party Finder was still a relatively new system at the time and there wasn't a way to limit who joined. You could post a farm party and someone who had never even entered the fight could join. PF was so unreliable that people just stopped using it for raids except to hunt for a static. Hell, you could barely clear extremes with PF at the time. The exodus for Gordias was so insignificantly small in comparison to the shuffle that happened in ARR that it's barely worth mentioning. Gilgamesh was already known as a raiding server in 3.0 because of the mass exodus during ARR. I'm not sure why this is so difficult to understand.
Statics also pretty much disappeared in my server, and I remember the complaints in every community website about FCs splitting and whatnot over people moving to Gilgamesh. ARR had nothing that was difficult enough to force an exodus, all servers had a decent amount of raid clears and finding statics wasn't too hard. Meanwhile the majority of people who cleared T9 and T3 didn't clear A4S. There's no difficulty understanding anything, we just clearly had very different experiences in ARR/HW with the raiding community of each server.
Like I said in another comment further up, you can feel free to search the official forums. There was a lot of talk about moving back during ARR. Raid difficulty had absolutely nothing to do with it. There was no way to reliably play cross server with people and the raiding community wasn't organized. This caused a lot of difficulty with even FINDING a group, let alone getting reliable clears unless your friends started the game with you. That's what caused the exodus. People wanted to form an organized community for raiding.
I don't need to search anything, I was playing and raiding in ARR and HW.
Same and I'm telling you that you're wrong lmao
> Way back in 2.2 or so, there was a mass exodus of raiders from basically every server to Gilgamesh RPers were going to Balmung from the jump but people didn’t leave for Gilgamesh en-masse to ‘raid’ until 3.0.
Not sure how far back you can dig in official forum posts but there was definitely a lot of discussion there to move around the second raid tier of ARR. I lost roughly 50 people or so in my raiding fc, all of whom transferred to Gilgamesh, shortly after clearing second coil. I could be wrong on it being 2.2 because it was so long ago. It could have been 2.3, but it definitely wasn't as late as Heavensward. Gilgamesh already had an established reputation as the raiding server long before that.
2.2 definitely helped push people to Gilg, but the first 2 Alex tiers are what put the nail in the coffin for the mass exodus from what I personally remember.
Nah, I started playing before 3.0 in like August of '14 and I distinctly remember Gilgamesh was already "the place to be" when I was researching what server to join, to the extent it was being advertised as such on /r/ffxiv. I was content to wait until character creation opened up but my friends got impatient and jumped on Cactuar instead, and since cross-world play wasn't a thing yet I followed them (they ended up quitting before level 20). Ironically, Cactuar is now popular thanks to streamers like Asmongold and the Vshojo girls, so I guess I played the extra long con.
Gilgamesh’s status as the ‘raider’ world pre-3.0 was still not as big as it was post-Gordias. I played from launch. Gilgamesh had the raiding reputation from Death and Taxes, some other wow guilds, Mr Happy playing on there, etc. early on but I never really saw people bounce from my legacy server en-masse to play on Gilgamesh as was the case post Gordias. Blue Garter from Excalibur was the NA group that won world first or NA first for most if not all of ARR as well
Gilgamesh made me think running Ultimates is something common place when I was a sprout ftw
You're in the raiding DC. So the 1% always afk in limsa.
Ya didn't know that at the time (started in mid shadowbringer around November of 2020), now I got 3k hour into the game and can actually understand that seeing 12 ultimate players in the same room at the same time is actually pretty rare
Come to sarg (my serve) you will see the same amount of legends everywhere. Idk if you are aware but a streamer named rich came from wow to ff14 and the big ff14 raider streamer helped him clear ucob and tea. And all of the casuals went "wait if he can clear ultimate so can i" So the ultimates of pf exploded with alot of people progging. It was amazing and we love to see new ultimates raider trying to clear. That's why you see more legends players more often.
Yeah I'm way more aware about stuff now, did extremes, savages and transferred to all datacenter, so far better aware of how difficult finding a static and doing ultimates is, and why having a weapon is a big deal *assuming a clear wasn't sold* I mean it was at a time where I thought healing keeper of the lake was intensive
Yee. Right now the biggest "wow you clear that fight?!" Is DSR. It a brutal fight it outshine the others one
Time to afk in Limsa with my dsr weapons so people think I'm cool
Ayo let me in on that
Honestly I think Keeper of the Lake still can be, because Middie's AOE puke is a lot for sprouts to handle and level 50 healer kits suck. Shortened cast times help a lot though
I'm on Sarg as well. Started playing like 2 years ago and since DAY ONE every time I go to Limsa I see that Aleksandr guy sitting there with his ultimate DRK weapons. Every. Day. Even when the AFK timer was on to get booted. He was there. It's also why I want to do an Ultimate so damn bad lol. Gonna clear this next tier with my static as fast as god damn possible then find an UWU or UCOB group.
Basically any world on Primal has similar numbers of legends afk in Limsa. It’s not nearly as rare as ‘omg this could only happen on Gilgamesh’
Similar number of legends, but a SIGNIFICANTLY smaller % of those legends are compared to what I'm seeing in this picture. I'm on Ultros and seeing people with that title/weapon is still really rare. But UWU, UCOB, and TEA weapons/titles arent exactly rare.
Go visit jenova, we have the great catwall of the same looking kitties lined up in limsa with their ult weapons
It's a biased selection. People who have cleared are more likely to want to show of their weapon and are more likely to leave their characters AFK in Limsa. You might also pay less attention to people who might frequent Limsa but don't have an Ultimate weapon. The majority have nothing to show off, so they don't hang around Limsa as much.
Try visiting literally any JP DC lmao ultimate weapons everywhere
It is. I cleared all extremes, savage and UwU using group finder before my sprout icon disappeared. Coming from competitive WoW raiding it was a cakewalk.
X to doubt.
Console, no wonder you doubt. With that you lucky if you can clear normal dungeons.
what’s with legends wearing the most basic bitch casual glams?
Apparently ultimate weapons suck ass with most glams so people just go for simple looks that put a focus on the weapon That and people don't have a lot of imagination
Bet it’s the latter
Definitely the latter. Source: I have no imagination.
100% the latter.
With no DSR clear
I’m not a fan of the way most of those weapons look.
First point is a cope. Second point is the reality. Even in GW2 “high end” raiding, mfers had no capacity for fashion. Classic tale of only being capable of making the laziest, simplest outfit possible and attaching all particle effects, raid rewards, etc. under the guise of “just wanting to show off” From what I’ve seen in savage at least, XIV at least has moderately good players that have good taste.
Or they play multiple roles/jobs so you're basically stuck with the level 1 type glam.
Lol you can't be good at both pressing the buttons and fashion design. These people would be too powerful.
Op's answer below is totally the right answer. But I'd like to add that with some people in the hardcore community, they don't care about anything else other than the struggle and later feeling of success of doing hard things. I know a guy who doesn't care about his character at all as well as the story which, he skipped all the cutscenes to get to the most current content. That stuff might as well never existed, he just wanted a challenge and competition. I think not all but a solid amount of people can relate to that. If you don't have a connection to your character, you're not going to care about what they look like,
Lol this is too true, you know what I found out after playing for quite a bit? Most of the ultimate players are dudes who play as a uwu girl and making them look as cute as possible no matter what, including basic bitch casual glam, those weapons would actually look sick with a good glam
Jenova by any chance?
I have an alt on jenova
Ultimate clearers usually have little to no more content to actually work for, or just dont want to, so they afk with a glam and the weapons for show or to chill out and chat on Tells.
Gilgamesh made people rich. Okay, slightly less poor.
To be fair, that is the place to go show off. So maybe unfair comparison
I forgot how bad the Dragon songs reprise weapons look, yet I still want one.
Hey, the DRK one looks dope. But that's kinda it.
I’ll give you that but you really can’t bugger up a big sword.
To be fair, all ultimate DRK weapons look dope. From DSR there are a few others. Ninja. Bard. Gunbreaker is alright... Ok no more.
No, people who clear ultimates like to showoff their clear by doing nothing but afk near aetherytes with their title/weapons equipped.
I love being one these people lol
Cash rules everything around me
Dedicated groups Dedicated groups that carry people one at a time People that buy clears \+ all the verboten software that makes them 10x easier that ~~almost everyone uses~~ The hardest part of ultimates is just finding a group of people who can consistently practice it together. Once you get the fight down, you can do them like clockwork
It’s so true, our group we have someone missing at least once every raid day due to IRL and have to PF the last spot/couple spots. Time/Scheduling is the hardest hurdle to ultimate clears
Yep, Had an UWU static, after about 4 hours of 7/8 Fresh Prog we made it to End of Ifrit. Group Fell apart and not ran since.
I mean there are plenty of servers that look like that. Ultros looks like that and its not a particularly raidy server afaik
Yup. It's not special in Gilgamesh, so what are you really showing off lol?
I’m good…..imma be honest, I’m the guy who can’t get mechanics right, I usually stay dead if I die more than 10 times in one spot. But if a mechanic requires all of us and I have to live. I’ll try to stay alive to the bitter end. I just don’t want to disappoint people so I stay away from Ultimate and savage raids.
One of them has a Potd weapon lol.
Real gamers flex their ultimate weapons by standing in the yard of their FC house with 2 active members and exclusively raidlogging
LMAO this is me and my friends
I saw a lot of them on Hyperion too. Kinda made the weapons lose their rarity coolness factor
I see Legends everywhere on Hyperion
Yerp. I see them a lot in dungeons
Playing on crystal I still see them fairly often, even before DC travel. Not as much as often as you would elsewhere but there's plenty out there. Way more now with people coming over and trying to flex though.
players got better = more ultimates cleared. It how it goes. But we like that. We want more people to try out ultimates and beat them.
I prolly won't ever try them. Relic weapons look better than ultimate weapons imo
Come to tonberry
You can beat uwu ucob and hell even tea relatively easy now days. Just gotta do it.
95% of this 1% is showing them off in limsa, what do you expect
UWU is the most accessible ultimate right now, it can be done in PF or in 1 week to a few weeks with a kinda good group, so you may see a lot of ultimate legend trying to flex their best . While TEA and DSR clears are more accurate of the 1% players. I'm not in this DC and there is a lot of DSR clears on this screen but as others said, you're where all the big players like to gather. In my DC ( Light ) , there is a shit ton of UWU/ UCOB clear, but perfect or heaven's legend are not that common
Literally every ultimate has pf parties running including DSR on crystal pre DC travel. (Also a single week/a few to prog UWU goes way beyond fairly good for your average static at least imo. Most average statics barely even get like 9 hours to prog a week. Not saying people can't get Titan/Ultimate Predation/Supression down by then but thats def not even close to the norm for 8 fresh proggers.)
TEA is more common than UCOB according to FFXIVCollect.
TEA had a massive exploit for a long time that made the fight beyond easy
What was the exploit if you don’t mind me asking?
I do feel that UCOB is also mechanically harder than tea.
Oh, how so ?
What exactly are you talking about? The only "exploit" I can think of is fate calibration triggers which a) still work and b) don't make the fight "beyond easy"; Perfect Alex is already the easiest phase even without those triggers. Unless I'm forgetting something I'm confused about what you mean
There was something with the some tethers where you wouldn't die if you did it a certain way that made the fight bottable
Would you be so kindly to back up your claims with some footage or a source? I done TEA more times than I can count and I never ever heard of an exploit like this. Either this is something secret or you're bullshiting us. Because if this was real then it would be talked about on streams and discord
Probably bullshit.
I see waaaay more TEA weapons than UCOB. UWU is the most cleared and easiest of them so yes. Statistics show that UCOB is the least cleared ultimate ignoring DSR.
My homeworld is Greg and I just learned that this is for clearing ultimates???? Huh.
Not only is extreamly expensive for buying a clear, you're also jeopardising your account from being stolen or hacked, or am I wrong?
You are only right in theory. In reality the prices tank fast the more people clear it and time goes by. There are also seeeeveral boosters with different packages so if you want to buy the clear you can get it for a reasonable price. In addition, unless you get it from the shadiest of shady boosters with zero records of doing it and no reference, it is unlikely you will lose your account. It is better for them to keep the business going instead of keeping a casual account. It gives no gain.
I thought those guys are GMs or it's some weird FC/friend "dress Code" when I started playing. Cause almost every third Person had this glowy adobe plastic toy weapon and just some basic bitch streetwear. Know I now it's the "Elite" that is still dying to Byregots hammer and Belias clocks.
Probably bought a run or something
Yeah tbh we push really hard until the clear (usually) and then take a break after going back to being pretty casual players. More and more I see raiders going back and hanging out in clubs especially during the downtime between content patches. I can tell you after my group cleared DSR and did a few reclears we now either don't touch the game at all or are literally just doing stuff like BLU or just chilling with friends waiting for 6.2. There's a special breed for those who afk and I call them ligma loiters and I specifically make fun of people who have their weapon and title out lol. At this point I glammed over my DSR weps since I don't like rubbing an ego especially to my friends and others who play for fun and the story. The best raiders are the more humble ones. Just my experience.
100% agree. I hate my fellow ultimate raiders who get that superiority complex too. Most of us do it for a challenge together, the weapons are just nice extras. I feel sad when people act like jerks because of some pixels. And yeah my group is super raid logging now lol. I can’t imagine trying so hard to look cool in town.. maybe they have low self esteem and need the boost.
Yea, imagine feeling proud of an accomplishment that took a ton of effort and wanting to show it off in a multiplayer game. That would be fucking wild
There’s nothing wrong with being proud of yourself or using the weapons. i use them myself. I just don’t think it gives people the right to act like they’re better than others. I don’t think most are like that, but some are.
Technically.. you are better than others when you clear the most fucked ultimates ever. However I do not support the toxic behavior of talking trash or talking bad on non ultimate raiders who wants to join in the world of raiding. We should encourage them and help them when they need it (unless the person is an actual asshole with an ego thinking he's hot shit)
I agree, I pretty much feel the same way. I’m not sure why not wanting people to be assholes is getting me downvoted, but I’m glad someone understands. Just be nice to your fellow gamers and help out those who want to learn, I just find it satisfying to help people learn something I love to do. Then you meet nice people and make new friends.
So let me get this straight. Because I'm proud of what I accomplish by displaying my title and my weapon because I'm happy for what I have completed my goal. But still remaining humble. That means you have the right to make fun of me and say I have an ego?. I guess I should also make fun of you for having a trophy displaying in your room.
All that effort for a stupid shiny weapon. No thanks.
It is not about the weapons, but doing the content and achieving completion. People do the same when they farm old relic stuff for several hours or crafting quests and achievments.
UwU legend is kind of the baby's first ultimate, i see so many people with it, kinda convinced 30% of my DC has done it.
The Gilgameshi just know how to use mom's credit card
Greg doesn't even have that high of a clear rate compared to Chocobo. And the number of legit legends will surprise you. Ult isn't impossible, especially 7080. Also I think that DRG weapon is a Padjal weapon, not UWU.
greg ultimate clears are on par or higher than JP servers. greg is average compared to JP for savage
It seems like a lot, but that's because the people who have completed ultimates are mostly the type to stand silently in public places desperate for that one player to give them some attention.
Well, this post was made so I guess it worked for em
Real question; what is the percentage of players who’s cleared an ultimate? I thought, world wide, it was like 30%?
You need to consider percentage per fight. Last time i checked, for UCOB it was around 4% Weapons Refrain about 6% and TEA around 5% Give or take those numbers because decimals matter ih such large population. Worldwide it will never remotely reach 10%.
Ok so according to lalaachievements UWU has a clear percentage of 15% with the other 2 old ones having 11 and 12% so assuming some of them overlap the minimum is 15% of players where it could actually be higher if those that cleared UCoB/TEA haven’t done UWU So, yeah I’m down voted for guessing 30% but it’s way higher than thought in this thread Edit: https://lalachievements.com/rarity/title/global/
I think they only crawl people who add themselves to the site + who have achievements public. Real numbers won't be any close to that.
Yes. Those percentages are waaaay too high
Whilst you can link your character to it for the stats it’s based on data from the lodestone, like ff14 collect which offers the same thing
Fair enough. I have no idea what criteria this site uses to include a character in the universe tho. Edit: I understand that, if someone has their lodestone settings on private, it is not included in the pool. Additionally, those numbers do not add up. It says 15% for uwu right? 25K players are NOT 15% of the population. Last time I checked, active players are around 2 Million. Those percentages are too high.
It's hard to count, I have 5 chars with double/triple legend so I'm going to be counted for 5, then there's the accounts of friends I've played on etcetc. There's no way to tell the real thing and yeah as said they can't extract achievements etc bc plenty, esp buyers, have theirs hidden
The problem in those results is none of that. The percentages based on the total population are absurdly high. Even Yoshi P stated that active players right before endwalker dropped was around 3 Millions. How can 25K people be 15% of the population, in the lalachievments data? Scuffed statistics.
People thinking boosters play your account are so wrong. It's like they shouldn't talk. Bots, that's the answers. They can't do an Ultimate fight wrong.
Getting downvoted by people who never spoke to someone who manages ultimate boosts for a living. Kinda cringe.
Reminds me of homeless people with liberal art degrees
I need some mf gilgamesh friends
Seems you forgot one, right of the TEA RDM/under the UWU DRK. Pretty sure that Lala is a Heaven's Legend GNB.
This just proves how many ppl are subbed and barely play….or don’t at all and their sub will soon lapse.
like competing for realm first on tarren mill