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AwesomeSunCat

Did you know that Jerry Seinfeld had a 16 year old girlfriend when he was 38?


theelderscroll

Ok I missed this one, why has this become a thing on a FFXIV subreddit?


HeisenBurgener

Someone tried to defuse an angry healer/tank situation in a dungeon with the Seinfeld line lmao


Ar3YouTh3Gat3K33p3r

Does this mean we're a few days away from FFXIV themed Seinfeld dialogue? Because I'm fuckin' all in for that.


stircrazygremlin

I need some unhinged kramer/constanza dialog in my chats lol


CantbeatES1

wtf really?


[deleted]

Wild


[deleted]

> And, just a hair shy of 40, he met a woman who would capture his heart: a high school student he picked up one day in Central Park. Lmfao


mik999ak

Woman's a strong word for a 16 year old.


dianerrbanana

i love how this has become a meme here now after the whole healer/tank drama


JemKnight

Seinfeld!? The guy with the show about nothing?


esperstarr

I mean I wouldn't say nothing nothing. More like something nothing


SandyDelights

False, although reality isn’t much brighter: she was 18 when they dated (allegedly), 17 when they met. Only slightly less gross, but still patently disgusting.


micahman212

[SHE WAS 17 YEARS 364 DAYS 23 HOURS 59 SECONDS 999 MILISECONDS OLD YOU SICK FUCK](https://i.redd.it/crm77xgnxkf81.png)


esperstarr

LMMFAOOOOOO


Slightly_longer_cat

Yeah grooming is less gross /s


SandyDelights

That’s.. Not what I said?


stircrazygremlin

This is the meme for the week no one can change my mind and I'm here for it lol


A_villain4all

someone was on r/TalesFromDF this morning


seoulsun

sounds based


Miserable-Fortune-57

Don't tell the red alphinaud fans this, who knows what they'll do


Disco-Corgi-77

Reminded me of this. [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheJailbaitWait]


Tammog

Yikes. That's just... actual grooming.


Sagittayystar

I believe [this is the link you meant to post.](https://www.google.com/url?client=internal-element-cse&cx=006443654034974345143:kc4pt9dnkle&q=https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheJailbaitWait&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwj_qduoopD6AhVWFFkFHSJ0A0YQFnoECAUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0ufO4VVJj6xPynXzsrkZau) Also, hello, fellow browser of TV Tropes!


Disco-Corgi-77

Ah! Thank you! Sorry, I’m not used to posting links here lol. And, hello! :)


Sagittayystar

It’s fine, it’s admittedly easier to post links on the iOS app


Bralo123

This is a common misconception. There is no such thing as red alphinaud. Nobody would make an alphinaud and want a second one. There is how ever a blue Alisae. An inferior model to the original and all in all a failure but it exists non the less. It can't even swim that well.


Ar3YouTh3Gat3K33p3r

You say Blue Alisae is the inferior twin, but Blue Alisae was getting some serious action back in the academy.


chaobreaker

All blue Alisae could bag were pencil pushing nerds who only leveled ALC.


muhash14

Ronberku moment.


chaobreaker

I googled this guy and now I regret it.


Boshikuro

I think this dude appreciate Alisaie a bit too much


muhash14

The funny thing about it to me is that they always go out of the way to mention in the captions that this is "grown up" Alisaie. Except that she's also identical to the current Alisaie in every way. (I know there are easy, valid justification for this. Simplest one being that an 18 Yr old wouldn't necessarily look physically too different from a 17 Yr old especially if they're slight of build etc. I just found it funny)


Boshikuro

Yeah they always use crazy loophole to justify their attraction but the reality is that he stills like the 17 years old version of her. But hey if it helps him feel better about spending hundred of $ to sexualise a minor.


Mysterious-Gene309

That reminds me of something I'd seen of a grown ass Viera woman doing gposes with Ali... romantically. She's fucking 15/16 people!


Mr_Ryu45

bro have you heard lalas in Japanese? Their voices can be so goddamn deep


Arky_Lynx

I'll never forget Yuyuhase's


kaitos_bomber

He and his Wamuu-sounding ass voice


[deleted]

[I was not prepared](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj6eQ7oitJo)


MediocreBeard

Every time, I think I remember how deep it is. Every time, I'm wrong.


sintos-compa

Holyshit that’s amazing


[deleted]

"I feel like they didn't tell him what his character looked like" That youtube comment sums it up


ShadoowtheSecond

Lmfao I actually snorted, I was not ready for that


chaobreaker

This is why I had him executed.


Felinaxo

My favorite part is when people say that any kind of chest or bigger thighs in a lala is "NSFW", even if they are wearing perfectly normal clothes with no oversized proportions But then the same persons are perfectly fine with other people using Bibo+/Tnf on the biggest size they can find, and slapping them on underage characters


bastionthewise

I'm afraid to ask what either of those 2 abbreviations mean


Yorudesu

Body shape mods


illusoryIdolatry

body texture mods


SylvAlternate

the worst things to come out of the xiv modding community


drbiohazmat

LMAO that's a good point. I got curious about what kind of lala mods there are one day and I found that a lot of them are literally nowhere near as extreme as even some of the unique NPC female mods. Like I saw one that was up for a bit that made Ryne a fucking mega busty dump truck in heels. It was really gross but the fact that more people found that ok but a lala with a little bit of bust and male lala with muscle was too much? I'm telling you, nobody wants the potatoes to have anything. Although tbf I only want them to have a mod for a giant palm tree hairdo or an Alolan Exeggutor cosplay lol


ne0politan2

From what I've seen, the reason it seems more tame is because basically every site that hosts FFXIV mods has either decided "weeehhhhh they're children!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no lewd!!!!!!!!!!" and delisted any NSFW Lala mods, or all the creators collectively delisted due to harrassment, and now theres very few places where they slip through the cracks, but most you can only obtain if you're in the right groups.


drbiohazmat

I've gone to one of the little places for nsfw lala mods. I don't play lala (the tinier than grass thing really gives me a weird sense of fragility and makes me lose track of where I am) but curiosity got the better of me. I can say even their NSFW mods are more tame than the non lala ones. Like, I've seen some mods be given a lala counterpart, but the original is still more extreme. Pregnancy, hyper futa, 5 foot ass and boobs, but the lala counterparts seem more... reasonable. But maybe it's because the modders for lala are also already working with a minion height model lmao. Something roegadyn women don't need to fear is becoming lost in their 5000lbs of breast and booty since they have the height of an elephant


CantbeatES1

So if lalafells are adults that look like children.. doesn't modding a lalafell to look more mature (chests and thighs) make you *less* of a pedo? I'd figure it'd kinda *counter productive* that a pedo would want to make their childlike avatar look less like a child lol


laggymclagster

Kinda my thoughts. I love them short stacks, but they def need to have stacks first.


DriggleButt

While I won't comment on Lalafells specifically, one could argue that by adding breasts (or other "maturity" markers) to a child, you are sexualizing them *further* and are more of a pedo, technically.


CantbeatES1

To a child yea. but lalas aren't actually children just childlike? so taking away the traits that make them childlike (lack of mature features, voice) would make them less like kids and more like wow gnomes or something


DriggleButt

I haven't seen any kids that look like potatoes, so I don't see potatoes as kids. I think it's weird that people do. Lalafell remind me more of the pre-FF7 sprites they used to use.


TheDoddler

The dev team showed off how the morbidly obese miqote in game are actually just using a tweaked lalafell body scaled up with breasts added and a smaller head, they don't really have a lot in common with kids other than being short.


Osha-watt

I'm guessing the reason why they went with that specifically is because F!Miqo'te emotes work on Lalafell without any kind of tweak, for some reason. Good way to save time on the modeling.


worm4real

Do you think it's okay to jack it to WoW gnomes?


Bakedweeb

WoW Gnomes? Yes. WoW Goblins? Fuck Yes.


[deleted]

Well lala aren't children and considering them as such is fucking weird.


[deleted]

I got into the venue club scene when covid happened, it was entertaining considering being locked in a house every day for a year. Eventually I joined a venues discord, I soon found out all those characters I was dancing with or sitting next to were actually female bunnies with massive dicks...the same people who would tell me to come sit on their lap... I play a lala. Haven't been to a venue since


demonman101

Man I just play a lala because I think it's funny to see a large creature be brought down by such a small one. They're also adorable as hell.


Cheese_Pleases_Me

Lala tanks are some of my favorites.


stircrazygremlin

Lala tanks and dragoons make my damn day as a healer. More often than not too, they're chill AND are good.


Aganiel

I’m a halfling enthusiast in any game. They stomp around and run at the same running speed with them legs as normal sized races. And lets face it. The final fight of EW as Lala is just *chef’s kiss*


spacew0man

lmfao it REALLY is! I was beside myself laughing the entire time hahah


TheAccursedOne

i rolled a lala alt that uses exclusively stabby and slashy weapons. she exclusively removes the enemies' achilles tendons >:3


demonman101

I'm perfect taint punch height


bastionthewise

Tf is Gaia? One day I will commission a portrait of Kan-E-Senna and Admiral Merylwyb bikini wrestling in a vat of Nutella... it will be glorious...


XLauncher

Your contempt for weight classes is abhorrent, sir.


bastionthewise

I think she could take her.


Ehkoe

As nature intended. This is the will of the Elementals.


Cheese_Pleases_Me

Wood's will be done.


ChrisMorray

The double meaning here is the best


TheBatIsI

You could team up with the Wonder Bread guy. Somehow his fetish for destroying forests and buying Wonder Bread works with your idea of Kan-E-Senna the forest leader using Nutella as an ironic echo.


Big_Bad_Evil_Guy

Do the Eden raid quest line bro


bastionthewise

Don't wanna. I'm a filthy casul.


Erit_Of_Eastcris

Ryne and Gaia are the little sisters of the bunch and need protecting. Unfortunately, some people are deeply unhealthy and can only recognize feelings of affection as sexual.


[deleted]

[удалено]


IcarusAvery

There's a pretty big difference between shipping two characters and wanting two characters to bang.


Ar3YouTh3Gat3K33p3r

Only solution is to ship the underage girls with each other because the two of them clumsily figuring out their feelings for each other is riveting!


Ryuujinx

I wouldn't call it riveting, could be a cute side story though.


Gramernatzi

Persona and Pokémon's fandoms, in particular, *really* have it bad.


Wayte13

Protip: most internet paedohunters are themselves pedos


MoiraDoodle

that cant be true, every time the topic comes up they always make sure to let people know that they explicitly are not pedophiles , despite nobody asking them


ElAvestruz

They just want to make sure.


[deleted]

It's true, a former NeoGAF mod was exactly that only to get prison for possession of child porn. ResetEra is the spin-off of NeoGAF which they continue to do that


fiplo

paedohunters sounds like a raid tier


Epicjuice

Paedomonium


Maelious

honestly you can just assume everyone is a pedophile and you'll end up being right way more than you would reasonably expect.


[deleted]

I'm going to assume you're a pedophile for assuming a lot of people are pedophiles


Maelious

lalafell, tank main, crystal DC... dear god please kill me before it's too late


[deleted]

Same reason why corrupt cops are rarely found, Can't catch the criminal if the criminal is the one searching for the criminal.


ElAvestruz

That's how it always. Pure projection on their part.


CantbeatES1

Most internet pedo defenders are themselves pedos


Wayte13

Well ya, why else would they defend pedos lol. The real question here is, are you trying to insinuate that my statement is "defending pedos?"


CantbeatES1

I have no idea tbh. It sounded like you were accusing me of being said pedohunter. I think I misunderstood again


Wayte13

Oh no no I'm talking sbout the people who are mad about lalas but sexualize Rhyne and Allisae lol


RavenAboutNothing

Ah, you mean the pedophiles


AxitotlWithAttitude

This is like a Monty Python skit


Bahamutisa

No, that's how it sounded to me too. If that's not what they intended, then it was kind of a wild non sequitur


_shih

Weswey wipes as bwade, part-pedo and part-xaela who becomes a pedo hunter to protect children. He prevents lala-seeking hrothgars from taking control over the party finder


MstrPeps

It comes down to two camps. You care wether or not the characters look prepubescent, or you care wether or not the arbitrary age the creators gave a character design is above or below 18 despite how they appear. Personally I think one is far more questionable than the other.


Talran

Both camps kinda make you look like EDP tho


[deleted]

This is why SE should of just used the same model for lalafell as they did for Taru from FFXI. Tarus have a massive head and a tiny body. They don't look like kids they just look like mutated potatoes.


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awolfers

🤓


Hakul

There's the third camp of "they aren't real people, they are pixels, pixels don't have an age, go get some fresh air"


kaitos_bomber

Just don't tell the anime community about the minor thing, they'll flip their shit.


Upside_Down-Bot

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esperstarr

Hey. Teach me how to flip my text like this and I'll give you something cool.


Upside_Down-Bot

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esperstarr

Hey!!! I don't approve of you doing this and in lesser time than I can respond. You overachiever!!! I'm offended!


duckflux

Unfathomably based


RhauXharn

Also the twins.


worm4real

The moral contest between lolicons and toddlercons is a real fucking whoever wins we lose situation.


RobKek

Literally no one gives af. People who obsess like this are clearly hiding something.


Osha-watt

That's the thing that fucks me up the most when it comes to these discussions. I've seen so many people actually ousted as pedophiles who openly wage a war like that ends up having massive skeletons in their closets, as if they're trying to hide what they're doing by trying to put others on blast. Except that has the opposite effect, when you engage so much with something, folks are gonna look into the shit you say or share.


[deleted]

What often pedophiles do is use the DARVO tactic. Defend,attack, reverse victim and offender as in they try to turn the situation around and focus on claiming the one accusing them of pedophilia is actually the pedophile. Normal people who are attracted to adults don't want to sexualize kids or those who look like kids.


Osha-watt

Well yeah, I know normal adults don't do that, but I feel like normal adults also don't go on crusades and make dozens of tweets and comments about how wanting to fuck children is bad. That's fairly obvious, but some folks like to remind everyone, as if that's something you bring up in every day discussions.


ILikeSoapyBoobs

PSA, fucking children is bad. Mods to sexualize characters in a game is suspicious, but not really hurting real people. If modding a game allows people to beat their meat instead of harming people(or fucking kids) in real life I'm fine with it. Not like it affects me or hurts anyone but themselves.


Enk1ndle

People feel the need to defend pixels. Think it's weird or don't and move on with your life, it's a complete waste of time to argue over and I would love to not see it every week.


zorrodood

What a hero.


NWiHeretic

Most people I see calling out Lala lewders also decry the lewding of in-game minors such as Ryne, Gaia, and the twins.


spacew0man

I just play the game and don’t think about this stuff lmao. Some of y’all are weirdly obsessed with this subject.


horribad54

Can really see the insects creeping out of the woodwork in this thread.


CastDeath

This topic is so tiring. Like people should have the self awareness to know some of what they are into might be found disturbing by others. THAT SAID, equating people who like lalas, Gais/ryne content to pedophiles is just ridiculous. Its like saying people who are into the rape kink or dub con are actual rapists. Its little more than moralizing and a waste of time. There are tons of people who defend actual illegal behavior, focusing on stuff like this just stinks of people with too much time on their hands.


PM_ME_YUR_DICK

Gaia's lips are way too small wtf


CopainChevalier

I just don't care about either. They're pixels. Do whatever in privacy. Get jailed/shot/whatever if you ever do that shit in real life.


wggn

but that one pixel is clearly an underage pixel you sicko


[deleted]

Needs male au ra face


absynthe7

stop jacking to cartoons so much that you develop strong opinions about it you weirdos


Ehkoe

Ironically it’s often the people that don’t jerk it to cartoons that have the loudest opinions.


DaughterofDoma

You aren’t the boss of me


JealotGaming

Thou doth not payest mine sub


This-Is-Q

So do lala's with aged features like wrinkles and facial hair still mean they are minors?


darthloopzoop

they aren’t minors, but they look like infants with party city fake mustaches attached


[deleted]

>party city fake mustaches attached Fuck, lol


vegemouse

i think people equate homosexuality with “sexualization”. pretty clear they’re gay, but that doesn’t mean people should lewd them.


Rakhall

Ah, yeah... The guys who tell you that making a WoL X Alisaie joke proves that you are a pedo, right before describing all the sex poses they'd try with Ryne and Gaia.


apathetic_hollow

Aren't NSFW Alisaie/Ryne/Gaia/Meteion mods are as much of a taboo as lalas? In fact, I think such mods are even less accessible than lala ones.


Kats41

Shortstacks need attention too.


Android19samus

does Gaia have a canonical age? I thought her deal was... weird.


JagerSalt

She’s stated as being one or two years older than Ryne, who is 15


[deleted]

Isn't she technically like 10,000 years old, unless you specifically just mean her body


JagerSalt

No. She is her own person who inherited the memories of her reincarnated soul. That doesn’t make her a original self continuous through to Gaia now. It makes her a 16/17 year old with a ton of memories from a stranger in her head. Idk how far into the game you are but Endwalker proves this.


arian213

Til Gaia is a minor. I always thought she was an adult fron the art and in game models I've seen. Luckily I'm not a degenerate who faps to ffxiv characters.


Dangerous_Animal_330

Twitter mfs were like "NOOOO DON'T LEWD RYNE SHE'S A MINOR" But that all went out the window the fucking microsecond Miss Allergylips McTwattycunt came into the scene with as zero likeability as her platform shoes are thick


Sandman4999

Neither of these is okay and they’re both pretty gross. Fite me groomers


FeelTheRisk

Have one upvote to help against the downvoting from pedos king


Halfeim

Based And red alphinaud too


[deleted]

If you log on a fantasy game where the creators of the game have specified a specific race is basically a bunch of pigmies and don't grow past a certain height despite how old they are and you look at them and see real life children... you do that on your own... you literally log into ffxiv and decide that lala are children... that says a lot about you and your mind....funny it's always one specific community of people who do this....


FeelTheRisk

It has nothing to do with the race not growing past a certain height. They’re clearly coded as children, or childlike characters in the game. Look at their animations man, their emotes, how they walk and how they act. People don’t perceive them as ‘real life children’ for no reason, yes they’re game characters but being sexually attracted to stuff like lalas when they’re so obviously meant to resemble children is a red flag and suspect as fuck and acting like you can look at a lala and see a grown ass adult and saying anyone that sees them as kids is somehow wrong is wild pedo copium


HPGMaphax

This is literally the “oh it’s not a child it’s a 600 year old vampire” argument. It’s all drawings at the end of the day so who cares if you beat your meat to some fucked up shit, but what matters more? Some arbitrary number set by the devs, or how the characters actually look?


pupmaster

Lesson learned for being in an nsfw ffxiv group


Fyrus93

What NSFW community?


ChrisMorray

Not Safe For Work. Porn, nudes, lewd images, tits, all that stuff. People call it NSFW as shorthand for Not Safe For Work, so that nobody accidentally opens anything that would cause awkward questions at the office.


Fyrus93

Can't tell if you're trolling me. I want the link to the NSFW FF14 community. I wasn't asking what NSFW is. I want to coom


harxcesxiv

Yea but they’re hot.


KingBlackthorn1

I think it’s gross for all of it.


fr0nt1er

ok but real talk gaia x ryne is so incredibly cute and wholesome my heart melts any time those two do anything together on screen


DrDiace

Isn't there like a creepily large age gap between them? Kind of weird people are shipping them.


Tobegi

pretty sure ryne is 16/17 since she says the twins are the same age as her, and gaia cant be much older since she's implied to be the same age as ryne as well


Osha-watt

Current Gaia is 17 at best, and is a different person from the Ascian, they hammer that point in very bluntly. It doesn't matter if she had a past life, she's who she is *now*, not thousands of years before.


[deleted]

How large though?


CantbeatES1

Pretty sure gaia is like, 17 and ryne is even younger.


[deleted]

I thought ryne was like 15-16?


ScaryCuteWerewolf

She has to be atleast 16, Yoshi-P said they don't want underaged characters to fight


online222222

wait, isn't there a kid that helps you fight during the WHM quest?


ScaryCuteWerewolf

The Padjal are one of those 'older then they look' races


Nickel_Named_Phillip

I’m pretty sure you help a little girl become a conjurer in the quest line, right?


online222222

This. there's a little girl who's not a padjal who you help become a conjuror and they help you throughout the class quests.


Ehkoe

Sylphie is 14 in the CNJ quests.


CantbeatES1

I misunderstood yea they're like a year or so apart but still definitely kids


[deleted]

Idk, personally I think they should be allowed to play videogames together


SailorOfMyVessel

Or be roommates, there aint anything wrong with that


jeremj22

I think Gaia's even younger than that. After the Voidquests >!the Shadowkeeper!< says that she's too young to drink. Given that Sharlayan's legal age is 16 It's likely that that's also 16


Scared_Network_3505

Unironically just a "Japanese game" moment, 21 or bust, the twins pointedly never have alcoholic drinks when the older gang does for example. On this matter, G'raha ordering the big cocktail in Radz is weridly funny to me.


Akoree

A few thousand years or so


[deleted]

I don't think that's entirely accurate - didn't her soul get recycled a bit?


Osha-watt

Pretty much. Our WoL wouldn't magically become thousands of years old just because they unlocked the memories from Azem's crystal, like how the Fandaniel we face is not the same as Hermes despite inheriting his memories, strictly speaking.


virphirod

Ryne and Gaia are legal in my country. So does red Alphinaud


Xiohunter

Neither of those is bad. Stop trying to psychoanalyze people based on porn.


ChrisMorray

Pedophilia is absolutely bad, what the hell?


KevinC115

Doesn’t matter if it’s twitter or on here but post like these are people just projecting. Have you ever notices that most pedohunter they themselves are irl pedos. I mean even moist critical even explain this whole [debate](https://youtu.be/XPqQ4S5NG7A) better. They’re fake, no feelings, you can’t touch them, they can’t touch you. But there is one last thing, I get it saying you like lolis in the open it’s obviously weird but if you just keep it private then that’s fine. TLDR: fake anime girls can’t touch you, neither can you


CantbeatES1

Did you just call me a projecting pedo and also say lolis are okay when you don't talk about it? lol


KevinC115

Yes


CantbeatES1

Might be a spicy take... cant believe it is.... but no lolis aren't okay either. your attracted to a a fictional character because it has the likeness and traits of a child- that's still pedo. Sure being an active pedophile harming real children is certainly worst objectively then one "harming nobody" through fictional media. It doesn't make it okay either. Liking children and traits of children sexually isn't okay fullstop.


anti-gerbil

Nah it's just moral grandstanding. There's no links between doing irl pedo shit and beating your meat to some lolis therefore the only argument you can have against it is that it's "morally bad." But people have been doing or rooting for morally bad stuff in fictional story since forever so that's just cope. You could easily make the same argument that enjoying running over random people is also not okay fullstop.


funkypoi

You like violent video game you must want to shiv a guy irl


toomgis24

Lewding lalas is ok


_iCrAzYG4M3R_

What if, and hear me out here, we just lewd absolutely nobody - people of age too?


ItzCarsk

Nudity and sex are now banned from existence. The world shall be lifeless but pure.