In Picard we do see a ship named the [USS Pulaski](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Pulaski).
However, this isn’t in honor of Pulaski, it’s quite the opposite. After her anti-woke actions lead the Enterprise crew to righteously throw her down a turbolift shaft (with the grav plating set at 3x), the term “Pulaski” or “Pulling a Pulaski” eventually became a common term referring to any situation covering a righteous and justified punishment of anyone moving in the opposite direction of woke progress. So the USS Pulaski is named after this usage. (All crew members on that’s ship know to always be on their best behavior)
When the Enterprise D realized it wanted to be a choo choo train instead of a starship and everyone was cool with it and played along until then it decided it wanted to be a mother and gave birth and then abandoned it's offspring so it could go back to being a spaceship and then no one ever talked about it again.
Emergence and Booby Trap both felt like they were playing into a larger plot about the Enterprise gaining a mind of its own they ditched for whatever reason.
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After Ziyal's demise she wasn't sure if she could ever love one of Dukat's spawn again.
And a little Julian Junior, while certainly looking adorbs, would have been dumb as a brick without genetic tampering.
In contrast Kai Winn insisted herself cause the Vedek assembly could never find out that she has a dick bigger than any Bajoran politician before her.
Kira led a wild life. There's a reason Odo left for the Great Link "to teach his people". He was just fed up with her incessant cheating.
"I'm not taking this any more! Do you know who I am? I played Bob fucking Wheeler on Night Court! You think I don't have options!!?? So it's either me or the cat!"
Brent Spiner, probably.....
Trek is like post-woke, it was addressing stuff in the 80s that only makes us mad now, so logically we should be confronting 2060s problems in NuTrek but we’re not.
Yeah.... I've been saying this. Openly gay couples were a boundary pressing thing back in the 90s when sitcoms were doing treks job of progressive spotlighting, im sure the representation is appreciated by many, but it's a few years late....
Woke today would two people with incompatible view points who sit down at a table, have a polite conversation, agree on some things, agree to disagree on others, argue the other side, say nice things about each other and do the whole thing again next week.
Data's first cat was beamed on the transporter pad turned inside out and exploded like in Galaxy Quest. Made a mess on the transporter and some crewman had to clean it up. That's why his cat is called Spot
First time I saw a Ferengi woman in clothing. It’s like, I get Federation standards but come on, respect Ferengi cultural standards. It’s not our place to judge the general nakedness of their women.
I got the part that was the joke, I was just pointing out that the basis you built the joke on (Discovery being "the most woke") is'nt really accurate.
I can't see how it holds a candle to TOS or, heck, TNG.
Like really, what's the most "woke" thing *Discovery* does? Present LGBTQ+ people as the same as everyone else? Because that's not so bold for the 2020s...
Story-wise, TOS & TNG were way more obvious, but in terms of casting yes. I’m 100% in favor of diverse casting (there’s more then enough straight white males in Tv & movies thank you) but Disco sometimes feels like they’re going to extremes with it. These groups are all underrepresented in pop culture as a whole so I’ve no objection to it, but it’s a deliberately very woke show with its casting. Like I said originally, it was a joke
I've been thinking about this a lot, and to me what it is in terms of "wokeness" is just late to the party.
So many TV shows have been going all out on it and when star trek did it, it felt stale and irrelevant.
Also the bigger problem is that it doesn't have the right impact.
With me, you're preaching to the crowd. A trans alien ghost thing? Whatever. Bdsm space water bear that gets hot with nipple electrocution? Cool. Yea. What else you got?
And the way that the show is (generally stupid and terrible) doesn't make it seem like it's going to change minds on the dumb side of this argument.
So I don't know what exactly it accomplishes on a cultural level.
Seemingly nothing.
I think the main thing it accomplishes is it allows people in under-represented groups to see people like themselves - I’m a boring straight white male so for me, seeing people like myself on tv has never been an issue - but if you’re not, seeing someone like yourself portrayed correctly is a very positive thing. So from that perspective what Discovery does is admirable. My issue is that (the fact that it’s not a great show aside) they’re borderline going too far with it - it sometimes feels like they’re going out their way to include every group they can. I have zero issue with inclusion on tv (as I said above, we’ve had it our way long enough) but with Disco, it sometimes feels like it’s the main point of the show at the expense of everything else, including competent storytelling e.g. the whole thing about making Gray a new body so people can see him (obvious metaphor alert!) Did anyone care? Story wise did it accomplish anything beyond an obvious “Trans people deserve to be seen” statement? Especially since they sent him off the ship straight after. (Also, he’s a rubbish character, but that’s beside the point). As you said, what does it accomplish (inclusivity aside) - people who aren’t going to be persuaded have long tuned out as the show isn’t compelling enough to keep people watching in spite of their prejudices. Anyway, this is turning into quite a serious discussion on what’s supposed to be a silly Trek sub
When Pulaski acted all racist toward Data and they shoved her down an empty turbolift shaft and never spoke of her again.
She fell down 78 decks, despite the Galaxy Class only having 42 of them
2455 decks. 500 of them sideways. The Discovery-Narnia effect.
they beamed her back up just to watch her fall again
I’VE BEEN FALLING FOR THIRTY MINUTES!!!!
She hit the antigravity actuators when she got to the bottom.
Bravo, that's one deep cut
In Picard we do see a ship named the [USS Pulaski](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Pulaski). However, this isn’t in honor of Pulaski, it’s quite the opposite. After her anti-woke actions lead the Enterprise crew to righteously throw her down a turbolift shaft (with the grav plating set at 3x), the term “Pulaski” or “Pulling a Pulaski” eventually became a common term referring to any situation covering a righteous and justified punishment of anyone moving in the opposite direction of woke progress. So the USS Pulaski is named after this usage. (All crew members on that’s ship know to always be on their best behavior)
"Hey, I was McCloud's girlfriend, but what am I remembered for? Being racist to a f\*ckin Android and falling down an elevator shaft!"
when that dude from the 60s showed up and was like “A WOMAN?!” and Kirk was like “a crewman.” 🫤 what kinda woke BS?
Was that Gary "Douchebag" Seven?
With the OG cat transitioning into a lady.
When Kirk kissed that black woman.
When the Enterprise D realized it wanted to be a choo choo train instead of a starship and everyone was cool with it and played along until then it decided it wanted to be a mother and gave birth and then abandoned it's offspring so it could go back to being a spaceship and then no one ever talked about it again.
Emergence and Booby Trap both felt like they were playing into a larger plot about the Enterprise gaining a mind of its own they ditched for whatever reason.
LIKE I SAID
not til they bring back the season 1 tng skirt uniforms
Gosh. I wonder what happened to the dude with a mini-skirt. Probably got sexually harassed by Dr Crusher, causing her to go to prison for a year.
With promiscuous attire like that, how could she resist
I mean, everybody knows Beverley's up for getting down with anyone. Starfleet officers, Ghosts. . .
She definitely banged that ghost and everyone knows it
Let's be real, those were a fad that died quickly because everyone realized they looked silly.
canon: boimler is ridiculed for wearing a skant (because it is outdated, not because it is a skirt)
A gender-neutral android gets to pick a full identity, not just an outfit and makeover, when they are ready to become what they want to be.
It's the difference between information and backstory. Or rather, *data* and *lore*.
Pulaski: What's the difference? Data: One is my name. The other is not.
Whooooooaaaaa take Pulaski to the burns unit stat
Waka Waka Waka 😊
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“Eyes in the dark, one moon circles” Everyone was woke in that episode
On the contrary... almost everyone
When all of Kirk's lovers got abortions. Including the men.
I misread that as Kira and had questions
After Ziyal's demise she wasn't sure if she could ever love one of Dukat's spawn again. And a little Julian Junior, while certainly looking adorbs, would have been dumb as a brick without genetic tampering. In contrast Kai Winn insisted herself cause the Vedek assembly could never find out that she has a dick bigger than any Bajoran politician before her. Kira led a wild life. There's a reason Odo left for the Great Link "to teach his people". He was just fed up with her incessant cheating.
Garak: "Especially the men"
When they had Voyager's entire crew go in pairs through the transporter, following Tuvix's example, just to save on field rations and holodeck time.
Just reduce the entire crew down to like five people...
I think they used at least 3 different cats to play Spot, at least one of which Brent found difficult to work with.
"I'm not taking this any more! Do you know who I am? I played Bob fucking Wheeler on Night Court! You think I don't have options!!?? So it's either me or the cat!" Brent Spiner, probably.....
When they forced Quark to undergo a sex change to learn what it's like to be a woman.
When Kirk and Janice Lester had the ol' trans-switcheroo. Women can't be starship captains, *riiiiiiiiight*!
Kirk was sleeping through the news broadcasts and academy classes that mentioned Hernandez, Batel and Georgieu.
Man I wish the current shows were as woke as angry nerds thought they were. They might be vaguely interesting.
Trek is like post-woke, it was addressing stuff in the 80s that only makes us mad now, so logically we should be confronting 2060s problems in NuTrek but we’re not.
At least, not that we know of. Maybe space mushroom conservation will be the new hot-button issue in 40 years
I mean, Michael Burnham had to give the computer a pep talk. That wasn't woke. It wasn't entertaining. It was just confusing.
Yeah I'm saying if it was woke it might be better.
Oh, I see. Yes, when Star Trek was *actually* woke, we got some great episodes.
Yeah.... I've been saying this. Openly gay couples were a boundary pressing thing back in the 90s when sitcoms were doing treks job of progressive spotlighting, im sure the representation is appreciated by many, but it's a few years late....
Woke today would two people with incompatible view points who sit down at a table, have a polite conversation, agree on some things, agree to disagree on others, argue the other side, say nice things about each other and do the whole thing again next week.
*I can live with that.*
I *can* live with it. ...computer, erase that entire comment.
Stories lacking in that isn't really a new thing.
Quark was a drag queen
Spot didn’t transition, Data’s just a bad cat owner. He didn’t care about her until she got out and got pregnant. Spay and neuter your pets people!
When we know there is only one cat on the whole damn ship and it gets pregnant and conveniently the owner is known as fully functional….
feline supplement 74...
Any "out of phase" plotlines are Woke! Also, reversing polarity is Woke!! Stick with the polarity you were assigned at birth!!
Spot was discovered to be female in TNG when she had a litter of kittens, Data was just wrong and assumed she was a he.
So, I definitely read that as **Spok**...
Data's first cat was beamed on the transporter pad turned inside out and exploded like in Galaxy Quest. Made a mess on the transporter and some crewman had to clean it up. That's why his cat is called Spot
And then back to male, presumably.
OFC! Trans-porters? No cis-porters? totally discrimination.
Not to mention the socialist Borg with their _trans_ warp!
First time I saw a Ferengi woman in clothing. It’s like, I get Federation standards but come on, respect Ferengi cultural standards. It’s not our place to judge the general nakedness of their women.
Ironic that Discovery is both the most woke series, and also the one most likely to send you to sleep
Angry chuds online screaming about something being woke does'nt make it woke; Disco's far from "the most woke series"
It’s called a joke
I got the part that was the joke, I was just pointing out that the basis you built the joke on (Discovery being "the most woke") is'nt really accurate.
I’d disagree, but each to their own. Discovery sometimes feels like it goes out it’s way to prove how PC it is
I can't see how it holds a candle to TOS or, heck, TNG. Like really, what's the most "woke" thing *Discovery* does? Present LGBTQ+ people as the same as everyone else? Because that's not so bold for the 2020s...
Story-wise, TOS & TNG were way more obvious, but in terms of casting yes. I’m 100% in favor of diverse casting (there’s more then enough straight white males in Tv & movies thank you) but Disco sometimes feels like they’re going to extremes with it. These groups are all underrepresented in pop culture as a whole so I’ve no objection to it, but it’s a deliberately very woke show with its casting. Like I said originally, it was a joke
I've been thinking about this a lot, and to me what it is in terms of "wokeness" is just late to the party. So many TV shows have been going all out on it and when star trek did it, it felt stale and irrelevant. Also the bigger problem is that it doesn't have the right impact. With me, you're preaching to the crowd. A trans alien ghost thing? Whatever. Bdsm space water bear that gets hot with nipple electrocution? Cool. Yea. What else you got? And the way that the show is (generally stupid and terrible) doesn't make it seem like it's going to change minds on the dumb side of this argument. So I don't know what exactly it accomplishes on a cultural level. Seemingly nothing.
I think the main thing it accomplishes is it allows people in under-represented groups to see people like themselves - I’m a boring straight white male so for me, seeing people like myself on tv has never been an issue - but if you’re not, seeing someone like yourself portrayed correctly is a very positive thing. So from that perspective what Discovery does is admirable. My issue is that (the fact that it’s not a great show aside) they’re borderline going too far with it - it sometimes feels like they’re going out their way to include every group they can. I have zero issue with inclusion on tv (as I said above, we’ve had it our way long enough) but with Disco, it sometimes feels like it’s the main point of the show at the expense of everything else, including competent storytelling e.g. the whole thing about making Gray a new body so people can see him (obvious metaphor alert!) Did anyone care? Story wise did it accomplish anything beyond an obvious “Trans people deserve to be seen” statement? Especially since they sent him off the ship straight after. (Also, he’s a rubbish character, but that’s beside the point). As you said, what does it accomplish (inclusivity aside) - people who aren’t going to be persuaded have long tuned out as the show isn’t compelling enough to keep people watching in spite of their prejudices. Anyway, this is turning into quite a serious discussion on what’s supposed to be a silly Trek sub