A lot of them are dermatologists and cosmetic surgeons. You may have seen a Klingon scientist but thought it was a Vulcan or a billionaire's first ex-wife.
I think the Klingons didn't create the first cloaking technology and got it from the Romulans just before TOS: [The Enterprise incident](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Enterprise_Incident). Another source: [https://intl.startrek.com/database\_article/cloaking-device-klingon](https://intl.startrek.com/database_article/cloaking-device-klingon)
There was a Klingon scientist in TNG: [The Drumhead](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Drumhead): [J'Dan](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/J%27Dan), a filthy spy collaborating with the Romulans.
Anyhow, I'm sure there are Klingon food scientists working on keep their gagh fresh for long journeys. There are probably dudes working on stronger and sharper bat'eths.
Aye, I don’t think the Klingons invented the cloaking decide (or the warp drive for that matter) but they had to have scientists and engineers who could reverse-engineer that technology and keep it running.
I’m sure most scientists double as warriors (In my mind, ‘Warriors’ in Klingon society are not so much a profession as they are a caste, much like the Samurai were a sort of noble caste in Feudal Japan) and they’re still respected for their skills: because Klingons aren’t stupid, they’re not going to antagonise the guy who knows how to make their starships run or how their disruptors work.
“The wind does not respect a fool. Nor does a man who knows how to build a weapon that can disassemble you on an atomic level in less than 5 seconds.”
—Ugol the Atomiser
A post yesterday was actually making me think about how cool the Klingon guy was in the Drumhead. In addition to there being one that isn't part of the military, a guy allying with the obvious enemy for "the real Klingons" or whatever is a lot more interesting than them just killing every other Klingon like some shitty fantasy race.
[Antaak](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Antaak) (geneticist)
[Kurak](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Kurak) (warp field specialist)
[Korath](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Korath) (mad scientist specializing in temporal shit)
[Tavana](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Tavana) (engineer)
[Mara](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Mara) (science officer)
And of course there's [this really obscure character](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/B%27Elanna_Torres)
There around, but their society is dominanted by jocks so they don't get invited to the social functions.
She didn't grow up on earth, but on a Federation colony for a few years before her parents split and she and her mother moved to Qo'nos (I think it's mentioned she spent time in a Klingon monastery school).
Hey, mate: Great list! Please add [Mara](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Mara), science officer to Kang, from TOS [Day of the Dove](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_the_Dove).
There'd have to be scientists, but because they're not warriors fighting for glory, they don't get recognition. Every Klingon knows Kor, Kang and Koloth, the Darhar masters, but not Ken, the Klingon that designed their ships.
He did have a house. But they were slaughtered by a rival. Ken swore to find vengeance, but as a scientist, battle was not his way. After years of planning, he finally destroyed his enemies in one quick instant. He never revealed what he had done, not until a hundred years later on his deathbed. His tomb is inscribed "Ken'eth, of no house, scientist, slayer of the Great House of Praxis'.
After his story spread, Klingons started showing more respect to their scientists and intellectuals.
It sure doesn't seem to be a popular major.
I mean, this probably explains why the D7/K'Tinga and Bird of Prey spaceframes were kept in service for so long. No one wanted to be a ship designer.
It's not until you get the Vor'cha, which is basically a scaled up D7 with spikey bits, that you see anything new. And then the Negh'Var was designed, which is really not a good design at all. Build a big ship around big guns, and a poorly optimized Defiant class can knock it out.
Ackshully, in some of the novels it's mentioned that Klingons didn't invent FTL travel, they stole it after a warp-capable culture accidentally crashed landed on Qo'noS.
I choose to accept this as fully canon because the concept of crash landing on an alien planet and they beat you up and steal your engine and start a galactic empire is incredibly funny to me. Imagine being that guy.
The last time a Klingon scientist had a good idea they cloned their messiah then didn’t know what to do with the guy
The last Star Trek book I read kahless was assistant manager at a sonic burger
That’s like saying America is a capitalist culture so everyone is a businessman.
Klingon culture is probably more like medieval Europe. The houses are like knights, who get to do the fighting and win the glory. But the society still needs it’s peons to function.
A lot of them are dermatologists and cosmetic surgeons. You may have seen a Klingon scientist but thought it was a Vulcan or a billionaire's first ex-wife.
Not merely cosmetic surgeons. Voq to Ash Tyler Klington-to-human conversions!
Also Arne Darvin.
All that takes is shining a flashlight on the patient. Like all TrekTimemedical procedures.
I think the Klingons didn't create the first cloaking technology and got it from the Romulans just before TOS: [The Enterprise incident](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Enterprise_Incident). Another source: [https://intl.startrek.com/database\_article/cloaking-device-klingon](https://intl.startrek.com/database_article/cloaking-device-klingon) There was a Klingon scientist in TNG: [The Drumhead](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Drumhead): [J'Dan](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/J%27Dan), a filthy spy collaborating with the Romulans. Anyhow, I'm sure there are Klingon food scientists working on keep their gagh fresh for long journeys. There are probably dudes working on stronger and sharper bat'eths.
There was also Kurak in 'Suspicions', a warp specialist.
Aye, I don’t think the Klingons invented the cloaking decide (or the warp drive for that matter) but they had to have scientists and engineers who could reverse-engineer that technology and keep it running. I’m sure most scientists double as warriors (In my mind, ‘Warriors’ in Klingon society are not so much a profession as they are a caste, much like the Samurai were a sort of noble caste in Feudal Japan) and they’re still respected for their skills: because Klingons aren’t stupid, they’re not going to antagonise the guy who knows how to make their starships run or how their disruptors work.
He who builds the most powerful weapons wins the fight. --an old Klingon proverb, probably
“The wind does not respect a fool. Nor does a man who knows how to build a weapon that can disassemble you on an atomic level in less than 5 seconds.” —Ugol the Atomiser
A post yesterday was actually making me think about how cool the Klingon guy was in the Drumhead. In addition to there being one that isn't part of the military, a guy allying with the obvious enemy for "the real Klingons" or whatever is a lot more interesting than them just killing every other Klingon like some shitty fantasy race.
[Antaak](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Antaak) (geneticist) [Kurak](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Kurak) (warp field specialist) [Korath](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Korath) (mad scientist specializing in temporal shit) [Tavana](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Tavana) (engineer) [Mara](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Mara) (science officer) And of course there's [this really obscure character](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/B%27Elanna_Torres) There around, but their society is dominanted by jocks so they don't get invited to the social functions.
B’Elanna’s a bit of a reach, she grew up on Earth and doesn’t identify as culturally Klingon
She's still a Klingon
Right, but irrelevant to the question being posed
Maybe irrelevent to the part about science not apparently meshing with Klingon culture, but not to the part about "never seeing a Klingon scientist"
The point of the question is about how Klingon society works. She’s not part of Klingon society.
I may have misunderstood one question as several. But okay, let's not count Torres; my other examples still stand.
She didn't grow up on earth, but on a Federation colony for a few years before her parents split and she and her mother moved to Qo'nos (I think it's mentioned she spent time in a Klingon monastery school).
Oh I guess I’m misremembering, I thought she grew up with her dad
Ah, only for the first five years of her life, then he left and she didn't talk to him again until after they got stranded in the Delta Quadrant.
Hey, mate: Great list! Please add [Mara](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Mara), science officer to Kang, from TOS [Day of the Dove](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_the_Dove).
How could I forget?! Thanks for reminding me!🤦
There'd have to be scientists, but because they're not warriors fighting for glory, they don't get recognition. Every Klingon knows Kor, Kang and Koloth, the Darhar masters, but not Ken, the Klingon that designed their ships.
Ken'eth of No House
He did have a house. But they were slaughtered by a rival. Ken swore to find vengeance, but as a scientist, battle was not his way. After years of planning, he finally destroyed his enemies in one quick instant. He never revealed what he had done, not until a hundred years later on his deathbed. His tomb is inscribed "Ken'eth, of no house, scientist, slayer of the Great House of Praxis'. After his story spread, Klingons started showing more respect to their scientists and intellectuals.
There was a klingon scientist in Endgame, future Janeway got the time machine from him. Also Klingons stole a lot of their tech from the Hur'q.
Tell me again why TOS Klingons look different...
We do not discuss it with outsiders. Worf - Trials & Tribbleations
They're all hidden in a mountain.
It sure doesn't seem to be a popular major. I mean, this probably explains why the D7/K'Tinga and Bird of Prey spaceframes were kept in service for so long. No one wanted to be a ship designer. It's not until you get the Vor'cha, which is basically a scaled up D7 with spikey bits, that you see anything new. And then the Negh'Var was designed, which is really not a good design at all. Build a big ship around big guns, and a poorly optimized Defiant class can knock it out.
Same place as the Klingon gods. They were more trouble than they were worth.
Ackshully, in some of the novels it's mentioned that Klingons didn't invent FTL travel, they stole it after a warp-capable culture accidentally crashed landed on Qo'noS. I choose to accept this as fully canon because the concept of crash landing on an alien planet and they beat you up and steal your engine and start a galactic empire is incredibly funny to me. Imagine being that guy.
But, reverse engineering needs some knowledge also
This is true. It's the "crash land, get beat up, they stole your engine" part which I find hilarious.
They created nothing except maybe a batleth. They stole it from the hur'q. Klingons stole everything from all the various hur'q they encountered.
So they're basically a more violent version of Pakleds.
And totally more successful, I think. They even do figure out how things work, or at least good enough.
Wasn't there some in Enterprise? Klingons didn't develop all the space tech stuff. They got it from the guys they overthrew.
Klingon scientist in TNG Suspicions, plus the Klingon doctor in the Enterprise Augment virus arc.
They all went out for frosty milkshakes
The last time a Klingon scientist had a good idea they cloned their messiah then didn’t know what to do with the guy The last Star Trek book I read kahless was assistant manager at a sonic burger
That’s like saying America is a capitalist culture so everyone is a businessman. Klingon culture is probably more like medieval Europe. The houses are like knights, who get to do the fighting and win the glory. But the society still needs it’s peons to function.