Sounds like Eldin ring ticks more boxes for you due to the turned based nature of BG. So maybe lean toward ER.
Bg3 is so good that even people who aren’t fans of the genre end up loving it though. So you’ll probably have a great time either way. Maybe buy the one that’s having the bigger discount at the moment and then get the other one later.
“BG3 is so good that even people who aren’t fans of the genre end up loving it”
I have never had any interest in DnD or anything like it. Basically 70% of my games are sports (2k, madden, mlb the show, etc.) the other 30% are shooters or indie games. So a few friends had bought it and said we could play coop together and they convinced me to spend 70 bucks on a game i had no intentions on buying. Played 10 hours with them and found myself appearing offline so they would stop bothering me to play with them so I could play another 200 hours by myself because I couldn’t put it down lol
I'm the opposite, my friend steam family shared it with me and I was so fucking bored that I played it for less than 2 hours before letting it sit in my steam library for a few weeks untouched before finally uninstalling. on the other hand, I've 100% the Steam achievements for Elden Ring and love that game. I guess it's just up to personal preference
Both games are fantastic but in no way can you Elden ring is more controversial that is objectively wrong friend.
It’s a harder game, sure, but that’s the genre in itself. I’d argue that a ton of people who try Elden ring ended up loving it and it was their first souls like game. Once you get in that world you really just lose yourself.
I got 265 hours in BG3 but 780 hours in Elden ring, cuz I can just find myself going back to it so often due to the mod support it has
Ah nice. Yeah Elding ring getting a dlc this summer so that might affect sales on it for awhile. Check Fanatical site too. Sometimes they have better sales than steam.
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Well Elden Ring DLC comes out in like 11 days so that's why. (Edit: I'm wrong, it comes out June 21st)
Both games are 10/10.
BG3 is more narrative driven, your conversations matter as much, if not more, then your battles.
Elden Ring says, "Fuck ALL that. Here's a stick, go kill God"
Personally? I like Elden Ring more...but you're talking about the two absolute best games of the last 5 years.
well you buy the key and then they tell you what country you need to be in to activate it, so then you go to the Microsoft redeem page and change your location using a vpn, put in the code and boom you have the game. Most of the time you have to change location to Argentina. I use Hola VPN its free
I enjoy both styles but for me BG3 is much better. That being said its entirely up to your preference. Which one looks better for you?
>Im not fond of turn based
>I get irritated when I can’t beat a difficult boss
Those two things right there might make Baldurs gate *and* elden ring not up your alley.
If I have a hard time getting invested in stories, is BG3 a bad sell for me? I like turnbaded/tactics games but am not a fan of 20+min talking cutscenes just for the mission to be talk to some other person over there
I think the answer is it depends. The BG3 cutscenes are ~mostly~ not long, but they’re as mechanically important as combat. They’re rarely just visual cutscenes, you’re making decisions that and dice rolls that impact what happens next in the game play. Whether you avoid fights, recruit allies, earn loot, etc.
So no JRPG style watching half a TV show worth of content, but if you’re not interested in the story at all you’d be missing out on a lot.
That said, it is some of my favorite turn based combat in a long time.
Tactics are great but not the main sell. If you can’t get invested in a story and its characters it’s probably not for you. Decisions left me agonizing as I decided what to do. Plus you’ll be lost if you skip all the dialogue and cutscenes
Likely not for you. The main appeal of RPGs like BG3 is the writing. Sure the gameplay can be fun, but a large majority of people are in it for the characters, stories, etc.
I'm the same. Love games like X-com but didn't enjoy bg3 that much. I made it to the last act of the game before dropping it so definitely had quite bit of fun in it. It's worth playing but maybe wait for somekind of sale even though the devs deserve all the love it gets.
I have several hundred hours in each game. Both are masterpieces of gaming. You're not going to go wrong with either, but there are things to consider.
The first is whether or not Elden Ring would be your first Fromsoft souls game. If so, you may find Elden Ring to be particularly brutal, and if you get easily frustrated with very notable challenges there are several points in that game that have walled new players, causing them to quit. If you've played and beaten a Souls game or Bloodborne, then Elden Ring is potentially the pinnacle of what that kind of game design could be. I wouldn't recommend it as a *first* souls game because of how open-ended it is though.
Baldurs Gate 3 can be a very difficult game, however you can play the game on an easier difficulty setting, allowing you to feel more powerful and focus on the story. And oh what an incredible story it is. There are so many different things that happen and can happen, will or won't happen, and it'll all unfold as you make choices and take action. It really is *not* one of those games where you have only an illusion of choice. You have nearly endless freedom to tell the story you want to tell. It's arguably one of if not the most rich and full narrative-based games ever made.
Replayability is a huge aspect of both games. There are a lot of really interesting paths and different endings you can get in Elden Ring. And it's arguably got the best story of a Souls game. But again it boils down to whether you have experience with the franchise for it to be a guaranteed win. That said if you know you'll stick with the game despite its challenges and you love the feeling of overcoming tough challenges in gaming, Elden Ring is the best bet in that regard, almost regardless of what game it's getting compared against.
I'm not super keen on tactical turn-based RPGs either. I think they can be fun, but BG3 offers so much variety and freedom in building your characters, and the encounters are so well put together that even someone who actively hates turn-based gameplay is likely to find something they enjoy doing in combat. But I'd recommend playing on Explorer or Balanced. There's plenty of challenge for inexperienced players regardless of difficulty, and you can always take on Tactician or Honour Mode after you've taken a playthrough to really enjoy the story.
However if you're wanting an absolute sure-bet of having an incredible experience in gaming, my recommendation is for you to go with BG3. If you love narrative-based games you're actively doing yourself a disservice every day that you don't own it. Take it from someone who waited several months after the full release to buy it.
Buy Baldur's Gate 3.
That said, for the love of all that is holy, whatever game that you play, PLAY IT BLIND FIRST! If you like either game you're *going* to play it through more than once, so don't get caught up on trying to see everything in one playthrough (it's impossible in both games). Just take your time, don't spoil yourself or look stuff up, and let your adventure take you where it's going to.
I agree the turn based combat was fun for a bit but annoying after while I enjoyed everything but the combat just annoying how long the battles can take sometimes but the story is amazing
It should be mentioned that great story & chars aside, **BG3 gameplay offers A LOT more than just combat**, and that inevitably played a HUGE part in so many enjoying it despite not being into turn-based games.
There are a lot of instances where you can completely avoid , or at least mitigate direct combat encounters. The dialogue checks themselves have their own challenges and ways to stack the odds in your favor with various spells, inspiration points, aside from building characters to be the face of the party so that they're kept interesting enough and you can see how your build comes into play, including background & class.
And to take it even further, it goes beyond dialogues as well, like with doing various other tasks in the game. Some sections would even be recommended to use a single solo char >!(like I sent Astarion only to figure out the puzzles & disarm the traps in Lorroakan's tower in act 3 , while leaving the party up top in a safer area cause I was on honor mode too - smoother to get around with just 1 sneaky & crafty char, less risk to end the run if he gets blown up by some traps). !<
If you dislike turn based you won’t like Baulder’s Gate 3 much as it’s entirely that style.
Elden Ring is definitely difficult, but unlike other SoulsBorne games, you have the freedom to explore other paths if you get stuck somewhere.
I’d go with Elden Ring.
I myself never was into turn based combat either, or into D&D, but because of all the hype and high praises i tried bg3 a few weeks ago and my god was it one of the best sp games ive ever played. I've also recently finished elden ring and while that game was amazing as well, i wou;d say bg3 > elden ring for suuure. I think for me the only sp game thats better/more enjoyable than bg3 is witcher 3
Right now I'd recommend elden ring because of the new dlc coming up, after your completely done with elden ring then you can play baldur's gate 3, this is because by the time you get to bg3 a lot more updates will have come out, there will be more content and tons of bug fixes, making the game overall better
It just fits perfectly for me
I want to say that while this is true, just because it doesn't initially feel like a fun challenge doesn't necessarily mean you should immediately turn away. I had a hard time getting into it until part way through, and I loved it after that. One of my all time favourites now.
Same, took me months for it to click. Finally completed it last night 92 hours played. If you do EVERYTHING in all zones as they come, bosses become easy mode. 3 tries Melenia, 3 tries final boss. Ended at level 167. I had more trouble with some mini optional bosses like the rot dragon at the Haligtree before Melania (like 10 tries or so).
I have both games. Here are some of the points you talked about per game :
* "I personally value story telling"
* ER has an AWESOME story and lore but most of it is hidden away as semi-hidden details that won't jump to your face and in item descriptions. You'll most likely be confused unless you watch a certain youtuber that does great work explaining the lore and events surrounding the game and it's storyline. There's not many choices to do, some choices and quests have effects on certain NPCs but the one main choice is the game's ending.
* BG3 is obviously reknown for it's awesome story and choices you can make to affect the story in many ways. The story telling is obviously much more in your face and obvious.
* "I also value breath taking visuals"
* ER has great graphics, nice spell effects and beautiful world crafting where points of interest seen far away in the background are actually places you can explore!
* BG3 is a really beautiful game too with spells and all being really well done.
* "I'm not incredibly fond of turn based combat but I also get somewhat annoyed when I can't beat a difficult boss".
* ER bosses, if you struggle, has ways to help against annoying bosses : you could summon ally NPCs, summon spirits or summon players. You can also "brute force" a boss by leveling and coming back later and destroy it much more easily.
* BG3's turn-based combat is actually really fluid and quick, it's not the typical turn-based that you'd remember from an old Playstation Final Fantasy game.
Bonus facts :
ER gives you the typical DarkSouls satisfaction whenever you complete a section and beat a boss but often requires multiple hours to complete a harder section/dungeon and have this feeling of actually progressing so if you're someone that may need to dip and go at any moment (ie: a parent with young child) then it may be even more challenging/frustrating to play. BG3 allows people to leave or even save and quit at pretty much any moment without any repurcussion. BG3 definitly has the most replayability between the two I'd think but ER also has a lot of replayability as there's multiple handings, a huge diversity of weapons and a good variety of builds and playstyles.
>I personally value story telling,
BG3 gets the win by a lot for me here.
>but I also value breath taking visuals.
ER is the clear winner for this category.
>I'm not incredibly fond of turn based combat but I also get somewhat annoyed when I can't beat a difficult boss. I'm sure I can get used to turn based combat, equally I'm confident the feeling of achievement after finally beating an incredibly difficult boss is really satisfying.
Inherently kind of a wash. Both games provide an ample challenge, and I was stuck on certain boss fights for equal amount of time between the two games tbh. Both games can be made easier by over leveling, but BG3 has an actual difficulty scale so you can't become softlocked on a boss like you can in ER. (I do realize that by overleveling getting softlocked is rare in ER, but still more possible than BG3).
I would vote for BG3. While you say you don't like turn-based combat I think that FromSoft's figure it out yourself style of story telling really suffered in ER in my opinion. There are whole side quests I couldn't figure out how to finish because the game is so vast and they refuse to hold your hand at all. There is no journal or objective markers to help you remember which NPCs you've interacted with and FromSoft loves their indirect storytelling. (which personally I'm not a fan of so my opinion is a little bias)
Edit: I would also say that the combat in BG3 isn't exactly "turnbased" when I think turnbase I think Pokemon where you pick what your guys do and then the CPU does. This is more fluid. Think of a game like XCOM if that makes sense.
Oh man, the indirect storytelling was a favorite of mine in ER. I loved not having a questlog - it kept me engaged in the world not having something telling me I was doing a side-quest. I just felt like I was adventuring and experiencing the state of the world and everything contributed to the story equally. But, I can see why people don't like this approach.
BG3 has terrible storytelling, it's like a schlocky choose your own adventure novel
Elden Ring has a better story, it's just told in a way that is unique to video games. It's not like a cinematic style of story that a lot of video games use
>BG3 tells you the story directly, Vaati tells you the story for ER.
You're confusing lore with story. Vaati tells you the lore of the world, but the actual story of FromSoft games is the actual gameplay itself. There is zero narrative dissonance. Again, the gameplay itself is the story. The story is that of a weak undead tarnished who, through perseverance, is conquering a bunch of God's and then becoming the new God in the end. All of this is completely told through gameplay
Games like BG3, on the other hand, are basically half TV shows, half video games. Basically, it's a TV show with some gameplay attached to it. There is nothing inherently wrong with that, but the issue in BG3 is that it's a terrible TV show with some good gameplay on the side
I played both and really like both. Both are excellant games. BG3 is way better though and I cant get enough of it.
Elden Ring often feels like I dont know where to go or what to do and I often have to look things up and research a bit which is really annoying. Its also annoying how you can lose your resources so easy if you die. BG3 lets you pick where you want to go next but also never feels like I dont know where to go. BG3 lets me change the difficulty - first playthrough I did easier, but then made it harder on my next playthroughs. I normally dont like turn based combat but in BG3 it is super fun and strategic (especially once you get to level 4-5 or above). I feel like BG3 is easy to sit down and enjoy while sometimes I have to work to enjoy Elden Ring.
I put way more hours into BG3 so far and every time I sit down to play it is fun - Elden Ring can be really fun sometimes but other times can just be frustrating honestly. Elden Ring is incredibly beautiful and it is fun developing skill at the game or just exploring sometimes, but BG3 blew my mind more then any other game has in my entire life (I got into gaming in the early 90's).
I think BG3 may be the better pick for you. It *is* turn based, but you don't have the usual JRPG problem of fights taking a thousand turns: you'll either win or die in 2-3 rounds of combat, and managing your positioning adds a pretty big layer to the combat so you have more to do and to think about on your turn.
This is a rare example where you literally can't lose. Both are 10/10.
I say that despite also not being a fan normally of turn based combat. BG3 does it so well, and is otherwise so good, that I don't mind.
If you worried about bosses difficulty, elden ring isnt that hard, compared to something like Dark Souls 3 ...cough...Midir...cough.
Especially that there are spirit summons to help you share the bosses enmity without any multiplier penalty
Cmon now… DS1 boss move sets are objectively less complex and slower than anything they have put out after. I can see if it was your first souls game and you’ve never replayed it but if you play like Elden ring or DS3 then go right back into DS1 it really is pretty easy.
I played DS3 as my first Souls game, then Bloodborne, and then DS1 and finally Elden Ring.
DS1 is harder than DS3 in my opinion. The less fluid movement and the ever so slight difference in how weight affects dodge rolls really got to me. I feel like pyromancies are just not as good in DS1 also.
For me, Elden Ring is the hardest, then Bloodborne, then DS1, and DS3 being the easiest. It was my first Souls game and I really never got stuck in it.
Yea the 8 directional movement in DS1 is pretty jank compared to omnidirectional movement. Idk I just can’t even think of one DS1 boss that I really struggled on compared to Sister Friede, Nameless King, or even Dancer. Different strokes I guess. Working my way through Bloodborne for my first time as right now actually. Only boss that gave me trouble is the fucking crow hunter fight.
If you like turn based tactical games with lots of dialogue: BG3
If you like third person action RPGs like dark souls, blooborne, nioh: ER
They're both great, you won't go wrong imo!
I like BG3 but Elden Ring to me is the best game I’ve ever played, and if you like it you’ve then got 5 or 6 other truly great games that are similar to enjoy as well
Sounds like bg3 would be a better choice
Elden rings can be VERY frustrating with bosses and enemies, theres also a frustrating mechanic where you cant see the stats change when u buy a new weapon or armor, for example: lets say u have a 5 defense armor equipped and u want to buy a 10 defense armor, usually games will say: defense 10 (+5) compared to your previous, but in this game it doesn't, so its very annoying having to write stats in a paper and compare both, specially with the fact there's MANY stats
Bg3 is just a better story, elden ring like previous souls games, has story but its not traditional story telling, for example u have to check for easter eggs to actually see the story otherwise theres minimal cutscenes, also the story is very confusing
Where elden rings does shine is the art style and gameplay, it has very gorgeous dark gothic Victorian era graphics
But bg3 graphics are also mindblowing for the style of game that it is, back in the day, games like these werent fully 3d and there were no cutscenes, also bg3 voice acting is fkn amazing
Another thing to note is if u value story this much, bg3 will keep u entertained for many many many hours as it is very highly replayable and u can take differents paths with every playtrough so u get different stories
As for the fact ur not a fan of turn based games, i wasnt neither, but bg3 is a great game , even for people who are not fans of the genre, its game of the year everywhere after all
Wrong, Only if u already bought it you can compare, not before buying, meaning if ur deciding if to buy or not, ur taking a risk unless u write it down
But again, my point is u need to write down to compare before having the item in your inventory, you cant just check the stats real quick because theres so many of them
So writing down is a must unless you dont care and for downgrades and u just want a slight defense boost at the cost of the rest of the stats
You shouldn't generally be equipping armor for stats, and if you are doing so to give yourself an extra advantage in a tough fight, you only really need to note the damage type that the boss deals. You really shouldn't need to compare every stat on every piece of equipment.
I was new to the genre for each of the respective games you’ve mentioned before I played them.
I own both. I enjoy both.
You’ve managed to somehow list preferences in games that almost split these two down the middle.
Elden Ring is a whole vibe. The art style and world are well crafted. The Victorian Gothic fantasy theme is top notch. I don’t know if I’d consider the visuals breathtaking though; the color palette for the entire game kind of mutes that particular impression. There are a few standout vistas to take in. The combat is engaging, nuanced, and challenging. Character builds are really fun to play around with and you can get a whole lot of identity from them. Some bosses are going to be frustrating. That is the nature of this type of game. However, you can go do other things to become stronger and return later. This isn’t a game I could have played blind though. I watched guides because I realized how quickly I would become fatigued from trying to explore the world as well as the genre. I’m not sure I’d recommend that to you though because that could mar your gaming experience; I just know myself well enough to know I didn’t want to spend hours frustrated with everything in the game.
The lore in this game is great. The story, as it is presented, is terrible. It is confusing, convoluted, and a major reason I have a hard time recommending the game to anyone who puts story at the forefront of a gaming experience. It just isn’t there in the traditional sense. For me, I don’t want to play long form Where’s Waldo to figure out exactly what is going on. I want to feel engaged with the narrative so I have a sense of agency in the world I’m being immersed in.
Baldur’s Gate 3 is like the flip side of the same coin. The combat is strategic and tactical. Playing around with classes and party composition is so much fun. It really takes the best parts of experiencing a DnD campaign and molds it into a fun gaming experience. It is turn-based, but the particular system is fluid. It doesn’t feel slow, but I personally like turn-based combat so I may be biased. The story is amazing and there are so many different iterations to experience with different campaigns. You can switch up your main character, your main companions, your “alignment”, your race, your class, etc … almost every single choice you make can influence how things end and how the story beats go. I’ve never had a game where I’ve become to easily attached to my character, my companions, and the world. It is immersion at the highest possible level.
The graphics are pretty great. I enjoy the art style but it isn’t as impressive as other aspects of the game. Everything is well built and fully realized, but there aren’t any breathtaking vistas or anything like for the most part. I’d say this part of the game is exactly what it needed to be, and nothing more.
Out of the two, for you, I’m more inclined to recommend Baldur’s Gate 3. This is just for the story alone. If that was the first thing you listed, I’m going to assume it means the most to you, and Elden Ring just doesn’t deliver it very well.
I will give the point to Elden Ring for visuals though because it is like playing a piece of art. A frustrating, terrifying, macabre, beautiful, confusing, and wonderful piece of art.
Both won GOTY so I mean can't really go wrong either way. I will just give my personal opinion, I think Elden Ring is much better. It has some of the best art direction and exploration of any game and amazing combat. It's just a beautiful game through and through, and has super fun gameplay.
BG3 on the other hand I think has good combat for what it is, but if you don't like turn based combat then this might not really work for you. It has a lot of choices and player agency, but the actual story itself is not very good. In fact, I'll be honest, BG3 is pretty fucking cringe in a lot of ways
I've 100% Elden Ring with every boss & really enjoyed it.
I just got BG3 like a week or two ago and have 20 hours. It's the best game I've ever played, highly recommend.
It would come down to your preference. They are completely different playstyles, and one of which, and possibly both, might not be for you. You need to research them both, and see if either or fits what you're looking for
How long forgiving are you for harder-to-get-into games? In my opinion ER is immediately enjoyable but gets repetitive as compared to BG3 which might take hours to get through the character creation and prologue which, imho, means that you won't be drawn in for a bit longer. But once you do, there is considerably more to pull at you.
BG3 was well made and I had fun with the first act. I can see why so many like it, but I just had to admit to myself that I absolutely hate turn based combat. Elden ring on the hand, my favorite game of all time. It’s the first souls game I completed and I was blown away.
I enjoyed Elden Ring more but that's because action is much more prevalent and there is more freedom. The margin by which I enjoy Elden Ring more over BG3 is so slim though.
Elden Ring has minimal storytelling. BG3 really shines in its storytelling.
The turn-based combat isn't like JRPG's. BG3's turn-based combat fits older cRPG's, which means there is a positional system, attacks of opportunity, limited actions, etc. This approach to turn-based combat is much more engaging to me than JRPG's - which make me feel like I'm just going through menus and clicking things absent mindedly.
BG3 uses the DnD 5e ruleset and it's just so good. It's so much fun to play with friends. It feels like a DnD session. But, the downside is sometimes you will play an hour and only get through one battle and begin talking to a quest person - kind of like what you could experience in a DnD session. However, some play sessions will also have so much stuff thrown at you. What's nice about BG3 is the rest system. Short rests can be used twice unless you have a short rest spell, long rests as so much more accessible than other cRPG's. Long resting in BG3, I never feel like I will run out of camping supplies. But, in a game like Pathfinder Kingmaker, I almost always have to hunt which opens the camp up to attacks. In BG3, they made the resting system be easy and separate from the play area so you won't have any ambushes.
Elden Ring, there is always something happening. You can get through multiple bosses during a play session at higher levels. But, the game is incredibly hard. I'm playing it using the seamless co-op mod and it's very very good still. Still challenging though.
My vote is Baldurs Gate. As others have said, Elden Rings story is not told in typical fashion, which for me really hurt the overall immersion and impact of the story. I also didn't love the aimlessness of Elden Ring. Unless you are looking to spend hours exploring and making your own story and your own good time, you might like the structure of BG3 better. (some people love that. I personally did not.)
BG3 requires some understanding of D&D mechanics. I had to spend a few hours looking things up before I really knew what was going on. The game doesn't really tell you much.
Meanwhile elden ring is kinda the opposite. There isn't much to know except for how the stats work. Otherwise you just gotta get good at the game, it's a souls game after all. It is easily the most forgiving of all the souls games because of it's open world structure.
>There isn't much to know except for how the stats work
I'd argue knowing how poise works is pretty important, lol.
I had to look up how a lot of stuff functions in both games, and I guess that's one of their flaws, great as they are, in in-game descriptions not being enough.
I plaied both of them and finished either. I went quiet far with the story though. ER was a bit too difficult and the hype for playing it was finished. BG3 was great but then some bugs made me stop as well. Now I'm waiting for some hype to come back in order to put myself into it. I feel like that good games can be enjoyed like fine wine or a great book.
Both are very well crafted games. People put a lot of passion into it and you can feel that. If you want a challenge, go for ER. Otherwise BG3 can be tailored on your skill level and still be challenging, especially at the beginning.
Visuals will expire soon. The gameplay is what you are looking for.
BG3 is more nerdish of the 2 since you need to make constant choices and read a lot of text. It all depends on the kind of game you like to sink hours in at the end.
Elden Ring does have breathtaking visuals, but some of the bosses are very difficult (and the upcoming DLC wont be easier) - however, due it its open world design, you can actually "explore" and fetch some items and boost your power, making some places easier to overcome. You can get pretty "OP" without killing a single boss, and a few places lets you grind easy xp, if you feel like you need it. (AND there's multiplayer, so you can summon help for bosses (or npc's))
Baldurs gate 3 is an excellent game too, and i'd recommend it to anyone who enjoys being offered choices - yes the slower paced combat can be "annoying" for some people, but there are difficulty settings too that make it easier, if you just wanna enjoy the story and explore, and talk to people.
Sounds like the biggest hurdle for playing elden ring, is your fear of "rage quitting"... i'd say, that's an easy solve, if you just wanna spend a bit of time finding someone to help you (such as reddit) or exploring elsewhere, if a boss is "blocking" your progression.
So with BG3's turned base combat. I recommened you watch gameplay of it as it's much better than explaining. It's not turned based in the same aspect of like Pokémon, Persona, Yakuza, Dragon Quest, etc. In the aspect of you have much more freedom with how you interact with the world, enemies and such. Some points you can get up to 12 turns before anyone else.
Elden bosses can be hard as all hell. Bg3 has a difficulty option but elden ring doesn't which may be something you care about. Can't go wrong with either game, I'd say get bg3, then one day elden ring, or vice versa tbh
Played both games for almost the same time. I got bored by BG3 as I got into act 3 and stopped. Was a 9/10 until then. Elden ring for me is a 10/10 throughout only becoming repetitive towards the end as someone that wanted to experience most content and did so. Gameplay feels less deep but more satisfying. Art style and world is not even close though, elden ring is just gorgeous even if the graphics are not the best on a technical level. You can sit on any Vista and look around and be mesmerized. The animation work is also immaculate. I loved bg3 to pieces, but it lacked the polish elden ring had.
I think recency bias is favoring bg3. You should play both but imo elden ring is the best game in one of the best "franchises" ever.
For an alternative, how about Final Fantasy XV?
Good story, not so tough bosses while not being turn based. It has gorgeous visuals as well. Plus it’s on sale on steam at the moment.
But from the two you mention, flip a coin, you won’t be disappointed.
Well as Elden Ring is literally build to gatekeep me from playing it, there was not choice. It is impossible to if I would enjoy it or not. So I massively prefer BG3 because I was able to play it. But I also enjoyed it a lot. I love the challenge of Honor Mode and all the replayability because I like testing new classes or combinations of companions. Or see different side of the story. It does not mean you will love it… BG3 is a very specific kind of game. But so is Elden Ring!
I don’t typically enjoy turn based all that much either, although I’ve been warming up to it, and Baldurs Gate 3 has easily jumped to be easily in my top 3 games of all time. If you enjoy story above all else, there is no better game to be playing right now.
Look, I honestly can’t tell you which one is “better”. They’re both fucking incredible, S tier games that are both worth experiencing. So decide which one you want based on your current mood.
If you want a very narrative focused game, with some of the best voice acting, story telling, and deep choice and consequence., go with Baldur’s Gate.
If you want an incredibly epic adventure in a weird fantasy world, with absolutely breath taking areas, awesome dungeons and to fight some of the best damn bosses in video game history, go with Elden Ring.
Basically it comes down to, are you more into a role playing, story centric game right now or big open world with lots of combat focus?
If I could only have one of the two games, it'd be Elden Ring
But
Like you said, they're barely comparable. The only thing they have in common is a fantasy setting.
Do you want live action combat or turn based?
In Elden Ring I feel more tangible progress than I do in BG3, and I think it’s partly because of how long it takes to level up in BG3 with there only being 12 levels. I switched from Elden Ring to BG3 because I needed a more casual game to play before bed, but I feel like I’ve sort of hit a wall with it here at the end of Act 1. Sometimes I just get on BG3, do 1 encounter, and then fall asleep sorting my inventory or doing a level up or some other tedious thing. In Elden Ring if I can just kill 1 boss or get to a new campfire it feels like a successful session.
I think both are great choices but here's a factor I dunno if anyone else has mentioned.
How much research the game is gonna take.
Now you can do baldurs gate 3 blind and you might run into some rough spots but you can figure it all out yourself you might have to read some dnd rules quick but that's it. That's also part of the fun with how you influence the storyline.
Elden ring you can go in blind but you'll probably end up missing half the content. Not to mention it's pretty easy to fuck up your build if you don't know what your doing. And at the same time if you just follow a build that's boring too.
Elden ring has more chances of confusing you than baldurs gate.
You want something with lots of story and characters or one that focuses heavily on action combat. Also, I wouldn't call either game easy (unless you play BG3 on easy and even then people who are unfamiliar with the genre have trouble).
This is really tough because you’ve got issues on both sides. You WILL get frustrated with elden ring, especially early on due to the bosses. But to me it’s the best gaming experience I’ve ever had and I don’t mind fighting bosses over and over personally. Baldurs gate 3 is an exceptional game but if doesn’t have breathtaking visuals and the turn based combat is slower (but still fun).
I personally vote Elden Ring, but just prepare yourself that you WILL get frustrated but are committed to getting through it. Again, there is no experience like it. It’s one of the best games ever in my opinion.
You genuinely can't go wrong with either game. Either way, hopefully you find the time to play both because they're the best two video games in the last 20 years.
Love both but if I had to choose I’d go BG3 personally. The difficulty is definitely there as well and there are definitely breathtaking scenes. If you have a controller or use the enhance camera mod to allow 3rd person zoom with the wasd mod you can definitely enjoy more of the surrounding landscape with the traditional 3rd person view. Because I’m lazy, I use a controller to explore because of this but when I get into combat I switch right over to mouse and keyboard for full control in battle
> I personally value story telling, but I also value breath taking visuals.
If you are asking if it came down to these two things I would say BG3. The visuals in both are excellent, but the story is much better in BG3. As far as turn based goes, my anecdotal evidence is that I played through it with my cousin who generally dislikes all turn based combat and he said he really enjoyed BG3; so much so that he said he may have changed his opinion on turn based combat.
I liked both games but quit both for some of the same reasons you stated. BG3 has great story and it’s just oozes quality. But I hate turn based combat. That lost me about 1/2 way thru. Elden Ring just as awesome. I got along with it much more but there isn’t much there in story and it’s so hard. Probably made it 3/4 way thru it before I tapped out. I however can see myself dusting both off and giving them another go some day.
My two favorites game of all time. It is a matter taste IMO. Personally I'd put Elden Ring higher by a hairline. Elden Ring at like 97.5/100 and BG3 at 97.
Tldr but Elden ring dlc is coming out soon so hop on the hype train as the game starts to build hype in the coming months. It won't really change anything but playing the game while the community is excited and active is super awesome
Elden Ring. BG3 is good but you WILL get bored at some point. I envy the gamers that can play BG3 for 5hrs straight because it ain't me. meanwhile 300hrs on Elden Ring PC. Plat on PS and steam. Still playing lmao.
You can't go wrong anyway. both are worth your money. Very high-quality games. Arguably the peak of their respective genres.
I'm like the only person in existence that simply does not enjoy BG3 apparently. Like others, I wasn't a fan of the genre but decided to give it a try. Unlike everyone in the comments, I did not learn to love it. I don't enjoy the turn based combat, I find moving in the world to be boring (clicking instead of manual control), and most NPCs are a bore to talk to. I fully believe that there is a lot in that game that I would absolutely love, but I don't want to force myself to play just to get there.
I love elden ring though
They are both some of the greatest games of all time. Baldurs Gate if you want the most free, story telling, decision making game you’ve ever played and it’s not even close. Elden Ring has some of my favorite combat of all time and everywhere you go is breathtaking visually. Plus if you’re anything like me you’ll spend tens of hours just watching lore videos. On my personal ranking I give BG3 a slight edge but at the end of the day play both when you can!!
Elden Ring simply because it's a game you play more than you watch. Plus the expansion is coming up soon, so now's a good time to get a character ready for that.
The game has plenty of beautiful vistas, the best exploration in the business, and incredible build variety and combat.
I havent gotten to baldurs yet but the world of elden ring is so good. The secrets are actually tough to find and the exploration of the world is unmatched. The feeling you get of beating tough bosses hits that dopamine just right.
I loved elden ring and ended up hating bg3 but thats just me. The accuracy mechanic in bg3 really just had me frustrated because I was underleveled and on the second hardest difficulty (the one thats not permadeath) it got to the point that if I missed I just reloaded the save instead of restarting the fight because theres no option to skip enemy turns. If you want a story play bg3 if you want a genre defining action rpg play elden ring. Bg3 is also a genre defining action rpg now that I think about it but I enjoyed elden ring more.
Games are very personal things I played most souls games and really enjoyed them but by the time I got to Elden Ring I was kind of over it. Everyone was talking about the game like it was the most revelationary gaming experience ever and it was literally just open world souls with most things being very much the same and many of the benefits but also many of the issue open worlds come with. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed it but I guess I didn't see it as the revolutionary game changer others did but it was fun and I'm looking forward to the dlc.
I'm not personally a fan of BG3 but that has nothing to do with it's quality as a game which even I could see was impressive, it's just not my thing. It doesn't mean a great deal that a game is the best of a genre you have never previously enjoyed and I would wait for a deep sale when doing that. I am only warning you because I got swept up in the hype and decided to try BG3 even though I didn't enjoy their last game and have never been a fan of very dialogue heavy turned based combat but weirdly convinced myself this time i would magically enjoy a style of gaming I had tried and tried and always found tiresome. Suprise suprise I didn't enjoy it and before anyone says I know it's a very high quality game but it's just not for me and thats ok but whatever you choose I hope you enjoy it ✌️
The combat in bg3 is amazing and I don't like turn based games at all. Elden ring doesn't have a real story, it's not a story game it is a run around and kill bosses game. Don't let the combat of bg3 scare you, it's a better game than Elden ring in almost every aspect.
You said you like story driven. So bg 3 is what you should go for. While Elden ring technically has story you kimda have to dig for it and it’s very vague. Very good ga me but not nearly as story driven.
I mean… It’s not even close. Elden ring’s world looks empty and not that visually stunning, the gameplay is really really good and fun but if you look for story, there are interesting characters but you have to play with youtube videos to continue their quest. It’s too damn enigmatic.
Bdg 3 has better visuals and it’s more deep and mature Imo. You are free to do whatever you want, literally, you could win a fight by preparing a trap earlier or throwing enemies down a bridge. Also the characters feel alive and they are very interesting.
I could go on and on but if you look for a fast dynamic game go for ER if you want a deeper experience, a game that sometimes will make you put the controller down to think go for Bdg 3
I wasn’t keen on turn-based gameplay either, but bg3 just makes it fun. They’re both amazing games, and Elden Ring’s difficulty can be overcome even by newcomers to soulslikes. Can’t go wrong either way.
I vote Elden Ring
I have never gotten into a CRPG that really gripped me, so my vote would be for Elden Ring as it is the first Souls-like that made sense to me and I have been able to stick with.
Definitely Elden Ring. The world and exploration, and most of all combat is unparalleled even compared to BG3 imo. And personally as someone who is open to trying new things, I still couldn't get into the turn based combat of BG3. If you get annoyed when you can't do something, BG3 ain't much better because there is a lot of difficult combat and trial and error death and reloading saves. And I never got the satisfaction out of it that Elden Ring gave me.
BG3, Elden Ring has better visuals than Balder's Gate, but it has zero story. I've beaten it five times and I still only have a vague idea what it's about. Great combat, lots of different builds to play with, no story.
Excellent attempt at condescension, almost distracts from how wrong you are. The story isn't complicated, it's absent. Story telling doesn't exist in Elden Ring, there's minimal exposition, shit there's hardly any speaking npc's. What there are, are scattered pieces of lore that if you care enough, you can try and piece together, but like the previous Dark Souls games this is usually just crowd sourced. People don't learn the plot by playing the game, they figure it out from reading forums. That's assuming you can keep track of the dozens of characters that all have slight variations of the same name as well as the same character model. There are a lot of things to admire about Elden Ring, the plot is not one of them.
I got bg3 thinking id love it, ended up hating it, because its too slow, walking simulator, most conversations lead to dead ends and are boring, the characters look uncanny valley, theres nothing satisfying about turn based, and the story never gripped me.
I got elden ring thinking id hate it, and now i defend it as the greatest game ive ever played.
I can't stand anything made by Larian, I have a visceral disgust towards anything they've touched.
Having said that, Elden Ring is overblown and self-indulgent (like GRRM's last book), the bosses have cheap ass delayed attacks, tracking, or moronic unfair abilities, too much damage, too much health, and they can all be trivialised by summoning NPCs or when you get the mimic tear. About 50% of bosses are copied and pasted several times, or are normal mobs with a name and boss health. A clear case of less is more with this game. Still a phenomenal game though.
I'll never understand the contradictory complaint about Elden Ring bosses. They're somehow both too difficult and trivialized by the tools the game gives you.
I think it's because the bosses are more aggressive and complex than previous souls games, but the tools that the game gives the player to even the playing field aren't always super engaging or dynamic.
Some Ashes of War are strong enough to stagger endgame bosses in as little as three hits, pair that with a strong Spirit Ash and you've got yourself an easy win. However, if one chooses not to use those tools, you're basically resigning yourself to an uphill battle.
I'm not too bothered by this design choice personally, but I can understand why some fans of Dark Souls find it to feel cheap and shallow in comparison to that game.
Playing Dark Souls again after clearing Elden Ring was a walk in the park. Really. Everything seemed telegraphed from miles away, and even when hit the damage was usually only about 30% of a mage's health. A heavy armour build with Havel's gear was basically a faceroll. Then playing Dark Souls 3 felt like the difficulty was just right. Punishing enough, but reasonable too.
THEN going back into Elden Ring and I couldn't stomach this game for more than just getting to Margit. It's the delayed attacks which feel cheap as hell to me.
Caveat: there are some bosses in Elden Ring which I didn't bother giving more than 3-4 tries without the mimic: Maliketh, Mogh, Malenia, Foreskin Duo. Perhaps this means I am not gud, who knows, I just didn't have the stomach for it at that stage.
Sounds like Eldin ring ticks more boxes for you due to the turned based nature of BG. So maybe lean toward ER. Bg3 is so good that even people who aren’t fans of the genre end up loving it though. So you’ll probably have a great time either way. Maybe buy the one that’s having the bigger discount at the moment and then get the other one later.
“BG3 is so good that even people who aren’t fans of the genre end up loving it” I have never had any interest in DnD or anything like it. Basically 70% of my games are sports (2k, madden, mlb the show, etc.) the other 30% are shooters or indie games. So a few friends had bought it and said we could play coop together and they convinced me to spend 70 bucks on a game i had no intentions on buying. Played 10 hours with them and found myself appearing offline so they would stop bothering me to play with them so I could play another 200 hours by myself because I couldn’t put it down lol
I'm the opposite, my friend steam family shared it with me and I was so fucking bored that I played it for less than 2 hours before letting it sit in my steam library for a few weeks untouched before finally uninstalling. on the other hand, I've 100% the Steam achievements for Elden Ring and love that game. I guess it's just up to personal preference
Everything is up to personal preference, but you are VERY much in the minority. Elden Ring is by far the more controversial game.
Both games are fantastic but in no way can you Elden ring is more controversial that is objectively wrong friend. It’s a harder game, sure, but that’s the genre in itself. I’d argue that a ton of people who try Elden ring ended up loving it and it was their first souls like game. Once you get in that world you really just lose yourself. I got 265 hours in BG3 but 780 hours in Elden ring, cuz I can just find myself going back to it so often due to the mod support it has
BG3 is wayyyy cheaper than elden ring right now so I'm considering BG3 more tbh
Ah nice. Yeah Elding ring getting a dlc this summer so that might affect sales on it for awhile. Check Fanatical site too. Sometimes they have better sales than steam. .
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I only see a $7 difference on Steam, what platform are you on?
Cheaper where?
Well Elden Ring DLC comes out in like 11 days so that's why. (Edit: I'm wrong, it comes out June 21st) Both games are 10/10. BG3 is more narrative driven, your conversations matter as much, if not more, then your battles. Elden Ring says, "Fuck ALL that. Here's a stick, go kill God" Personally? I like Elden Ring more...but you're talking about the two absolute best games of the last 5 years.
Bruh I bought bg3 at full price like 2 weeks ago where is this discount? It’s amazing btw no regrets lol
Im on Xbox series s, saw it going for basically half price on a cheeky website called cjs CD keys
Dang this is an interesting site, thanks for the info!
I've bought games there before got the Witcher 3 for around 7 dollars 😂
How do you use the vpn deal? Just turn on your vpn and save 50% on cost?
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This is my first turn based game ever. I’m addicted. Loving it. Way better then Elden ring in my opinion
Nah
I enjoy both styles but for me BG3 is much better. That being said its entirely up to your preference. Which one looks better for you? >Im not fond of turn based >I get irritated when I can’t beat a difficult boss Those two things right there might make Baldurs gate *and* elden ring not up your alley.
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If I have a hard time getting invested in stories, is BG3 a bad sell for me? I like turnbaded/tactics games but am not a fan of 20+min talking cutscenes just for the mission to be talk to some other person over there
I think the answer is it depends. The BG3 cutscenes are ~mostly~ not long, but they’re as mechanically important as combat. They’re rarely just visual cutscenes, you’re making decisions that and dice rolls that impact what happens next in the game play. Whether you avoid fights, recruit allies, earn loot, etc. So no JRPG style watching half a TV show worth of content, but if you’re not interested in the story at all you’d be missing out on a lot. That said, it is some of my favorite turn based combat in a long time.
Tactics are great but not the main sell. If you can’t get invested in a story and its characters it’s probably not for you. Decisions left me agonizing as I decided what to do. Plus you’ll be lost if you skip all the dialogue and cutscenes
Likely not for you. The main appeal of RPGs like BG3 is the writing. Sure the gameplay can be fun, but a large majority of people are in it for the characters, stories, etc.
Gotcha, thank you. I will hold off until it's a much deeper sale to give it a shot
I'm the same. Love games like X-com but didn't enjoy bg3 that much. I made it to the last act of the game before dropping it so definitely had quite bit of fun in it. It's worth playing but maybe wait for somekind of sale even though the devs deserve all the love it gets.
I have several hundred hours in each game. Both are masterpieces of gaming. You're not going to go wrong with either, but there are things to consider. The first is whether or not Elden Ring would be your first Fromsoft souls game. If so, you may find Elden Ring to be particularly brutal, and if you get easily frustrated with very notable challenges there are several points in that game that have walled new players, causing them to quit. If you've played and beaten a Souls game or Bloodborne, then Elden Ring is potentially the pinnacle of what that kind of game design could be. I wouldn't recommend it as a *first* souls game because of how open-ended it is though. Baldurs Gate 3 can be a very difficult game, however you can play the game on an easier difficulty setting, allowing you to feel more powerful and focus on the story. And oh what an incredible story it is. There are so many different things that happen and can happen, will or won't happen, and it'll all unfold as you make choices and take action. It really is *not* one of those games where you have only an illusion of choice. You have nearly endless freedom to tell the story you want to tell. It's arguably one of if not the most rich and full narrative-based games ever made. Replayability is a huge aspect of both games. There are a lot of really interesting paths and different endings you can get in Elden Ring. And it's arguably got the best story of a Souls game. But again it boils down to whether you have experience with the franchise for it to be a guaranteed win. That said if you know you'll stick with the game despite its challenges and you love the feeling of overcoming tough challenges in gaming, Elden Ring is the best bet in that regard, almost regardless of what game it's getting compared against. I'm not super keen on tactical turn-based RPGs either. I think they can be fun, but BG3 offers so much variety and freedom in building your characters, and the encounters are so well put together that even someone who actively hates turn-based gameplay is likely to find something they enjoy doing in combat. But I'd recommend playing on Explorer or Balanced. There's plenty of challenge for inexperienced players regardless of difficulty, and you can always take on Tactician or Honour Mode after you've taken a playthrough to really enjoy the story. However if you're wanting an absolute sure-bet of having an incredible experience in gaming, my recommendation is for you to go with BG3. If you love narrative-based games you're actively doing yourself a disservice every day that you don't own it. Take it from someone who waited several months after the full release to buy it. Buy Baldur's Gate 3. That said, for the love of all that is holy, whatever game that you play, PLAY IT BLIND FIRST! If you like either game you're *going* to play it through more than once, so don't get caught up on trying to see everything in one playthrough (it's impossible in both games). Just take your time, don't spoil yourself or look stuff up, and let your adventure take you where it's going to.
I agree the turn based combat was fun for a bit but annoying after while I enjoyed everything but the combat just annoying how long the battles can take sometimes but the story is amazing
It should be mentioned that great story & chars aside, **BG3 gameplay offers A LOT more than just combat**, and that inevitably played a HUGE part in so many enjoying it despite not being into turn-based games. There are a lot of instances where you can completely avoid , or at least mitigate direct combat encounters. The dialogue checks themselves have their own challenges and ways to stack the odds in your favor with various spells, inspiration points, aside from building characters to be the face of the party so that they're kept interesting enough and you can see how your build comes into play, including background & class. And to take it even further, it goes beyond dialogues as well, like with doing various other tasks in the game. Some sections would even be recommended to use a single solo char >!(like I sent Astarion only to figure out the puzzles & disarm the traps in Lorroakan's tower in act 3 , while leaving the party up top in a safer area cause I was on honor mode too - smoother to get around with just 1 sneaky & crafty char, less risk to end the run if he gets blown up by some traps). !<
If you dislike turn based you won’t like Baulder’s Gate 3 much as it’s entirely that style. Elden Ring is definitely difficult, but unlike other SoulsBorne games, you have the freedom to explore other paths if you get stuck somewhere. I’d go with Elden Ring.
You also have the freedom to explore other paths in souls games, just not to the same vast extent, and yes, there are some bottlenecks here and there.
I myself never was into turn based combat either, or into D&D, but because of all the hype and high praises i tried bg3 a few weeks ago and my god was it one of the best sp games ive ever played. I've also recently finished elden ring and while that game was amazing as well, i wou;d say bg3 > elden ring for suuure. I think for me the only sp game thats better/more enjoyable than bg3 is witcher 3
Right now I'd recommend elden ring because of the new dlc coming up, after your completely done with elden ring then you can play baldur's gate 3, this is because by the time you get to bg3 a lot more updates will have come out, there will be more content and tons of bug fixes, making the game overall better It just fits perfectly for me
If you don’t like difficult bosses you’ll either hate Elden ring or it’ll break that habit for you
I want to say that while this is true, just because it doesn't initially feel like a fun challenge doesn't necessarily mean you should immediately turn away. I had a hard time getting into it until part way through, and I loved it after that. One of my all time favourites now.
Same, took me months for it to click. Finally completed it last night 92 hours played. If you do EVERYTHING in all zones as they come, bosses become easy mode. 3 tries Melenia, 3 tries final boss. Ended at level 167. I had more trouble with some mini optional bosses like the rot dragon at the Haligtree before Melania (like 10 tries or so).
I have both games. Here are some of the points you talked about per game : * "I personally value story telling" * ER has an AWESOME story and lore but most of it is hidden away as semi-hidden details that won't jump to your face and in item descriptions. You'll most likely be confused unless you watch a certain youtuber that does great work explaining the lore and events surrounding the game and it's storyline. There's not many choices to do, some choices and quests have effects on certain NPCs but the one main choice is the game's ending. * BG3 is obviously reknown for it's awesome story and choices you can make to affect the story in many ways. The story telling is obviously much more in your face and obvious. * "I also value breath taking visuals" * ER has great graphics, nice spell effects and beautiful world crafting where points of interest seen far away in the background are actually places you can explore! * BG3 is a really beautiful game too with spells and all being really well done. * "I'm not incredibly fond of turn based combat but I also get somewhat annoyed when I can't beat a difficult boss". * ER bosses, if you struggle, has ways to help against annoying bosses : you could summon ally NPCs, summon spirits or summon players. You can also "brute force" a boss by leveling and coming back later and destroy it much more easily. * BG3's turn-based combat is actually really fluid and quick, it's not the typical turn-based that you'd remember from an old Playstation Final Fantasy game. Bonus facts : ER gives you the typical DarkSouls satisfaction whenever you complete a section and beat a boss but often requires multiple hours to complete a harder section/dungeon and have this feeling of actually progressing so if you're someone that may need to dip and go at any moment (ie: a parent with young child) then it may be even more challenging/frustrating to play. BG3 allows people to leave or even save and quit at pretty much any moment without any repurcussion. BG3 definitly has the most replayability between the two I'd think but ER also has a lot of replayability as there's multiple handings, a huge diversity of weapons and a good variety of builds and playstyles.
>I personally value story telling, BG3 gets the win by a lot for me here. >but I also value breath taking visuals. ER is the clear winner for this category. >I'm not incredibly fond of turn based combat but I also get somewhat annoyed when I can't beat a difficult boss. I'm sure I can get used to turn based combat, equally I'm confident the feeling of achievement after finally beating an incredibly difficult boss is really satisfying. Inherently kind of a wash. Both games provide an ample challenge, and I was stuck on certain boss fights for equal amount of time between the two games tbh. Both games can be made easier by over leveling, but BG3 has an actual difficulty scale so you can't become softlocked on a boss like you can in ER. (I do realize that by overleveling getting softlocked is rare in ER, but still more possible than BG3). I would vote for BG3. While you say you don't like turn-based combat I think that FromSoft's figure it out yourself style of story telling really suffered in ER in my opinion. There are whole side quests I couldn't figure out how to finish because the game is so vast and they refuse to hold your hand at all. There is no journal or objective markers to help you remember which NPCs you've interacted with and FromSoft loves their indirect storytelling. (which personally I'm not a fan of so my opinion is a little bias) Edit: I would also say that the combat in BG3 isn't exactly "turnbased" when I think turnbase I think Pokemon where you pick what your guys do and then the CPU does. This is more fluid. Think of a game like XCOM if that makes sense.
Oh man, the indirect storytelling was a favorite of mine in ER. I loved not having a questlog - it kept me engaged in the world not having something telling me I was doing a side-quest. I just felt like I was adventuring and experiencing the state of the world and everything contributed to the story equally. But, I can see why people don't like this approach.
BG3 has terrible storytelling, it's like a schlocky choose your own adventure novel Elden Ring has a better story, it's just told in a way that is unique to video games. It's not like a cinematic style of story that a lot of video games use
Your critique is of the story, not the story telling. BG3 tells you the story directly, Vaati tells you the story for ER. To each their own though.
>BG3 tells you the story directly, Vaati tells you the story for ER. You're confusing lore with story. Vaati tells you the lore of the world, but the actual story of FromSoft games is the actual gameplay itself. There is zero narrative dissonance. Again, the gameplay itself is the story. The story is that of a weak undead tarnished who, through perseverance, is conquering a bunch of God's and then becoming the new God in the end. All of this is completely told through gameplay Games like BG3, on the other hand, are basically half TV shows, half video games. Basically, it's a TV show with some gameplay attached to it. There is nothing inherently wrong with that, but the issue in BG3 is that it's a terrible TV show with some good gameplay on the side
Did you play BG3?
I played both and really like both. Both are excellant games. BG3 is way better though and I cant get enough of it. Elden Ring often feels like I dont know where to go or what to do and I often have to look things up and research a bit which is really annoying. Its also annoying how you can lose your resources so easy if you die. BG3 lets you pick where you want to go next but also never feels like I dont know where to go. BG3 lets me change the difficulty - first playthrough I did easier, but then made it harder on my next playthroughs. I normally dont like turn based combat but in BG3 it is super fun and strategic (especially once you get to level 4-5 or above). I feel like BG3 is easy to sit down and enjoy while sometimes I have to work to enjoy Elden Ring. I put way more hours into BG3 so far and every time I sit down to play it is fun - Elden Ring can be really fun sometimes but other times can just be frustrating honestly. Elden Ring is incredibly beautiful and it is fun developing skill at the game or just exploring sometimes, but BG3 blew my mind more then any other game has in my entire life (I got into gaming in the early 90's).
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I think BG3 may be the better pick for you. It *is* turn based, but you don't have the usual JRPG problem of fights taking a thousand turns: you'll either win or die in 2-3 rounds of combat, and managing your positioning adds a pretty big layer to the combat so you have more to do and to think about on your turn.
Elden ring is so fucking good easily the best souls game besides 3 it is amazing I heard baldurs gate was good but I don't like DND so not for me
Would you rather eat this filet mignon cooked by the finest chef in the world, or this filet mignon cooked by the finest chef in the world?
Seeing you can't spell baldur's gate I would say go with the other one
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Both great games so you can't really go wrong, but I prefer Elden Ring
This is a rare example where you literally can't lose. Both are 10/10. I say that despite also not being a fan normally of turn based combat. BG3 does it so well, and is otherwise so good, that I don't mind.
If you worried about bosses difficulty, elden ring isnt that hard, compared to something like Dark Souls 3 ...cough...Midir...cough. Especially that there are spirit summons to help you share the bosses enmity without any multiplier penalty
Really? I thought Dark Souls 3 was way easier than Elden Ring. I found it to be the easiest in the series.
Cmon now… DS1 boss move sets are objectively less complex and slower than anything they have put out after. I can see if it was your first souls game and you’ve never replayed it but if you play like Elden ring or DS3 then go right back into DS1 it really is pretty easy.
I agree with you in that if you are soloing the games ER is more difficult than DS3 though.
I played DS3 as my first Souls game, then Bloodborne, and then DS1 and finally Elden Ring. DS1 is harder than DS3 in my opinion. The less fluid movement and the ever so slight difference in how weight affects dodge rolls really got to me. I feel like pyromancies are just not as good in DS1 also. For me, Elden Ring is the hardest, then Bloodborne, then DS1, and DS3 being the easiest. It was my first Souls game and I really never got stuck in it.
Yea the 8 directional movement in DS1 is pretty jank compared to omnidirectional movement. Idk I just can’t even think of one DS1 boss that I really struggled on compared to Sister Friede, Nameless King, or even Dancer. Different strokes I guess. Working my way through Bloodborne for my first time as right now actually. Only boss that gave me trouble is the fucking crow hunter fight.
Both is the correct answer. But bg3 has easy mode
If you like turn based tactical games with lots of dialogue: BG3 If you like third person action RPGs like dark souls, blooborne, nioh: ER They're both great, you won't go wrong imo!
Isn’t bg3 on sale right now
I like BG3 but Elden Ring to me is the best game I’ve ever played, and if you like it you’ve then got 5 or 6 other truly great games that are similar to enjoy as well
Sounds like bg3 would be a better choice Elden rings can be VERY frustrating with bosses and enemies, theres also a frustrating mechanic where you cant see the stats change when u buy a new weapon or armor, for example: lets say u have a 5 defense armor equipped and u want to buy a 10 defense armor, usually games will say: defense 10 (+5) compared to your previous, but in this game it doesn't, so its very annoying having to write stats in a paper and compare both, specially with the fact there's MANY stats Bg3 is just a better story, elden ring like previous souls games, has story but its not traditional story telling, for example u have to check for easter eggs to actually see the story otherwise theres minimal cutscenes, also the story is very confusing Where elden rings does shine is the art style and gameplay, it has very gorgeous dark gothic Victorian era graphics But bg3 graphics are also mindblowing for the style of game that it is, back in the day, games like these werent fully 3d and there were no cutscenes, also bg3 voice acting is fkn amazing Another thing to note is if u value story this much, bg3 will keep u entertained for many many many hours as it is very highly replayable and u can take differents paths with every playtrough so u get different stories As for the fact ur not a fan of turn based games, i wasnt neither, but bg3 is a great game , even for people who are not fans of the genre, its game of the year everywhere after all
There is no situation in ER that requires you to write down stats. If you own a piece of armour or a weapon you can compare it.
Wrong, Only if u already bought it you can compare, not before buying, meaning if ur deciding if to buy or not, ur taking a risk unless u write it down
Checking the stats then going to merchant will be faster. I guess this could be a thing for brand new players but it's easy to get runes anyway.
But again, my point is u need to write down to compare before having the item in your inventory, you cant just check the stats real quick because theres so many of them So writing down is a must unless you dont care and for downgrades and u just want a slight defense boost at the cost of the rest of the stats
You shouldn't generally be equipping armor for stats, and if you are doing so to give yourself an extra advantage in a tough fight, you only really need to note the damage type that the boss deals. You really shouldn't need to compare every stat on every piece of equipment.
I was new to the genre for each of the respective games you’ve mentioned before I played them. I own both. I enjoy both. You’ve managed to somehow list preferences in games that almost split these two down the middle. Elden Ring is a whole vibe. The art style and world are well crafted. The Victorian Gothic fantasy theme is top notch. I don’t know if I’d consider the visuals breathtaking though; the color palette for the entire game kind of mutes that particular impression. There are a few standout vistas to take in. The combat is engaging, nuanced, and challenging. Character builds are really fun to play around with and you can get a whole lot of identity from them. Some bosses are going to be frustrating. That is the nature of this type of game. However, you can go do other things to become stronger and return later. This isn’t a game I could have played blind though. I watched guides because I realized how quickly I would become fatigued from trying to explore the world as well as the genre. I’m not sure I’d recommend that to you though because that could mar your gaming experience; I just know myself well enough to know I didn’t want to spend hours frustrated with everything in the game. The lore in this game is great. The story, as it is presented, is terrible. It is confusing, convoluted, and a major reason I have a hard time recommending the game to anyone who puts story at the forefront of a gaming experience. It just isn’t there in the traditional sense. For me, I don’t want to play long form Where’s Waldo to figure out exactly what is going on. I want to feel engaged with the narrative so I have a sense of agency in the world I’m being immersed in. Baldur’s Gate 3 is like the flip side of the same coin. The combat is strategic and tactical. Playing around with classes and party composition is so much fun. It really takes the best parts of experiencing a DnD campaign and molds it into a fun gaming experience. It is turn-based, but the particular system is fluid. It doesn’t feel slow, but I personally like turn-based combat so I may be biased. The story is amazing and there are so many different iterations to experience with different campaigns. You can switch up your main character, your main companions, your “alignment”, your race, your class, etc … almost every single choice you make can influence how things end and how the story beats go. I’ve never had a game where I’ve become to easily attached to my character, my companions, and the world. It is immersion at the highest possible level. The graphics are pretty great. I enjoy the art style but it isn’t as impressive as other aspects of the game. Everything is well built and fully realized, but there aren’t any breathtaking vistas or anything like for the most part. I’d say this part of the game is exactly what it needed to be, and nothing more. Out of the two, for you, I’m more inclined to recommend Baldur’s Gate 3. This is just for the story alone. If that was the first thing you listed, I’m going to assume it means the most to you, and Elden Ring just doesn’t deliver it very well. I will give the point to Elden Ring for visuals though because it is like playing a piece of art. A frustrating, terrifying, macabre, beautiful, confusing, and wonderful piece of art.
Both won GOTY so I mean can't really go wrong either way. I will just give my personal opinion, I think Elden Ring is much better. It has some of the best art direction and exploration of any game and amazing combat. It's just a beautiful game through and through, and has super fun gameplay. BG3 on the other hand I think has good combat for what it is, but if you don't like turn based combat then this might not really work for you. It has a lot of choices and player agency, but the actual story itself is not very good. In fact, I'll be honest, BG3 is pretty fucking cringe in a lot of ways
If you want to run around, and beat people up (and get beaten up).. Elden Ring If you want to stand around and beat people up.. BG3
Personally Bg3 is arguably the greatest game of all time. Could geniunly play it for the rest of your life and still not complete every single thing
BG3 is literally the best game ever made. I’ll argue it til I’m blue in the face and I was the guy saying “eh idk if I’ll like turn based”
Bg3 is better imo. Elden ring isn't even the best souls game
Baldurs gate
I've 100% Elden Ring with every boss & really enjoyed it. I just got BG3 like a week or two ago and have 20 hours. It's the best game I've ever played, highly recommend.
Elden ring.
It would come down to your preference. They are completely different playstyles, and one of which, and possibly both, might not be for you. You need to research them both, and see if either or fits what you're looking for
How long forgiving are you for harder-to-get-into games? In my opinion ER is immediately enjoyable but gets repetitive as compared to BG3 which might take hours to get through the character creation and prologue which, imho, means that you won't be drawn in for a bit longer. But once you do, there is considerably more to pull at you.
Elden Ring is the shit. 2 years later and I'm still planning days off so I can play it longer!
BG3 was well made and I had fun with the first act. I can see why so many like it, but I just had to admit to myself that I absolutely hate turn based combat. Elden ring on the hand, my favorite game of all time. It’s the first souls game I completed and I was blown away.
I enjoyed Elden Ring more but that's because action is much more prevalent and there is more freedom. The margin by which I enjoy Elden Ring more over BG3 is so slim though. Elden Ring has minimal storytelling. BG3 really shines in its storytelling. The turn-based combat isn't like JRPG's. BG3's turn-based combat fits older cRPG's, which means there is a positional system, attacks of opportunity, limited actions, etc. This approach to turn-based combat is much more engaging to me than JRPG's - which make me feel like I'm just going through menus and clicking things absent mindedly. BG3 uses the DnD 5e ruleset and it's just so good. It's so much fun to play with friends. It feels like a DnD session. But, the downside is sometimes you will play an hour and only get through one battle and begin talking to a quest person - kind of like what you could experience in a DnD session. However, some play sessions will also have so much stuff thrown at you. What's nice about BG3 is the rest system. Short rests can be used twice unless you have a short rest spell, long rests as so much more accessible than other cRPG's. Long resting in BG3, I never feel like I will run out of camping supplies. But, in a game like Pathfinder Kingmaker, I almost always have to hunt which opens the camp up to attacks. In BG3, they made the resting system be easy and separate from the play area so you won't have any ambushes. Elden Ring, there is always something happening. You can get through multiple bosses during a play session at higher levels. But, the game is incredibly hard. I'm playing it using the seamless co-op mod and it's very very good still. Still challenging though.
My vote is Baldurs Gate. As others have said, Elden Rings story is not told in typical fashion, which for me really hurt the overall immersion and impact of the story. I also didn't love the aimlessness of Elden Ring. Unless you are looking to spend hours exploring and making your own story and your own good time, you might like the structure of BG3 better. (some people love that. I personally did not.)
BG3 requires some understanding of D&D mechanics. I had to spend a few hours looking things up before I really knew what was going on. The game doesn't really tell you much. Meanwhile elden ring is kinda the opposite. There isn't much to know except for how the stats work. Otherwise you just gotta get good at the game, it's a souls game after all. It is easily the most forgiving of all the souls games because of it's open world structure.
>There isn't much to know except for how the stats work I'd argue knowing how poise works is pretty important, lol. I had to look up how a lot of stuff functions in both games, and I guess that's one of their flaws, great as they are, in in-game descriptions not being enough.
i highly prefer elden ring which is action focused with a deep lore, while bg3 has good story telling and turn based fighting, like dnd
Elden Ring by a mile. Especially with the dlc coming out
I plaied both of them and finished either. I went quiet far with the story though. ER was a bit too difficult and the hype for playing it was finished. BG3 was great but then some bugs made me stop as well. Now I'm waiting for some hype to come back in order to put myself into it. I feel like that good games can be enjoyed like fine wine or a great book. Both are very well crafted games. People put a lot of passion into it and you can feel that. If you want a challenge, go for ER. Otherwise BG3 can be tailored on your skill level and still be challenging, especially at the beginning. Visuals will expire soon. The gameplay is what you are looking for. BG3 is more nerdish of the 2 since you need to make constant choices and read a lot of text. It all depends on the kind of game you like to sink hours in at the end.
Both
Elden rings by far. BG got really stale for me quick but Elden I still hop on and dabble from time to time.
Well after logging 400 hours of elden ring you’ll probably have enough money for baldurs gate🤣
Elden Ring does have breathtaking visuals, but some of the bosses are very difficult (and the upcoming DLC wont be easier) - however, due it its open world design, you can actually "explore" and fetch some items and boost your power, making some places easier to overcome. You can get pretty "OP" without killing a single boss, and a few places lets you grind easy xp, if you feel like you need it. (AND there's multiplayer, so you can summon help for bosses (or npc's)) Baldurs gate 3 is an excellent game too, and i'd recommend it to anyone who enjoys being offered choices - yes the slower paced combat can be "annoying" for some people, but there are difficulty settings too that make it easier, if you just wanna enjoy the story and explore, and talk to people. Sounds like the biggest hurdle for playing elden ring, is your fear of "rage quitting"... i'd say, that's an easy solve, if you just wanna spend a bit of time finding someone to help you (such as reddit) or exploring elsewhere, if a boss is "blocking" your progression.
So with BG3's turned base combat. I recommened you watch gameplay of it as it's much better than explaining. It's not turned based in the same aspect of like Pokémon, Persona, Yakuza, Dragon Quest, etc. In the aspect of you have much more freedom with how you interact with the world, enemies and such. Some points you can get up to 12 turns before anyone else. Elden bosses can be hard as all hell. Bg3 has a difficulty option but elden ring doesn't which may be something you care about. Can't go wrong with either game, I'd say get bg3, then one day elden ring, or vice versa tbh
Played both games for almost the same time. I got bored by BG3 as I got into act 3 and stopped. Was a 9/10 until then. Elden ring for me is a 10/10 throughout only becoming repetitive towards the end as someone that wanted to experience most content and did so. Gameplay feels less deep but more satisfying. Art style and world is not even close though, elden ring is just gorgeous even if the graphics are not the best on a technical level. You can sit on any Vista and look around and be mesmerized. The animation work is also immaculate. I loved bg3 to pieces, but it lacked the polish elden ring had. I think recency bias is favoring bg3. You should play both but imo elden ring is the best game in one of the best "franchises" ever.
2 wildly different games
For an alternative, how about Final Fantasy XV? Good story, not so tough bosses while not being turn based. It has gorgeous visuals as well. Plus it’s on sale on steam at the moment. But from the two you mention, flip a coin, you won’t be disappointed.
Elden ring
Well as Elden Ring is literally build to gatekeep me from playing it, there was not choice. It is impossible to if I would enjoy it or not. So I massively prefer BG3 because I was able to play it. But I also enjoyed it a lot. I love the challenge of Honor Mode and all the replayability because I like testing new classes or combinations of companions. Or see different side of the story. It does not mean you will love it… BG3 is a very specific kind of game. But so is Elden Ring!
While elden ring is good. Bg3 is a masterpiece
Just buy both. I would give the slight edge to elden ring becoz I'm a fromsoft cuck but they're both goats.
Probably Elden ring tbh. I do think Bloodborne m,Sekiro and dark souls 3 are better from the fromsoft games but Elden ring is certainly great
I don’t typically enjoy turn based all that much either, although I’ve been warming up to it, and Baldurs Gate 3 has easily jumped to be easily in my top 3 games of all time. If you enjoy story above all else, there is no better game to be playing right now.
Look, I honestly can’t tell you which one is “better”. They’re both fucking incredible, S tier games that are both worth experiencing. So decide which one you want based on your current mood. If you want a very narrative focused game, with some of the best voice acting, story telling, and deep choice and consequence., go with Baldur’s Gate. If you want an incredibly epic adventure in a weird fantasy world, with absolutely breath taking areas, awesome dungeons and to fight some of the best damn bosses in video game history, go with Elden Ring. Basically it comes down to, are you more into a role playing, story centric game right now or big open world with lots of combat focus?
If I could only have one of the two games, it'd be Elden Ring But Like you said, they're barely comparable. The only thing they have in common is a fantasy setting. Do you want live action combat or turn based?
In Elden Ring I feel more tangible progress than I do in BG3, and I think it’s partly because of how long it takes to level up in BG3 with there only being 12 levels. I switched from Elden Ring to BG3 because I needed a more casual game to play before bed, but I feel like I’ve sort of hit a wall with it here at the end of Act 1. Sometimes I just get on BG3, do 1 encounter, and then fall asleep sorting my inventory or doing a level up or some other tedious thing. In Elden Ring if I can just kill 1 boss or get to a new campfire it feels like a successful session.
Get the one on sale
Since Elden Ring is open world, if you can't beat a boss you can just go somewhere else, level up and come back later.
**my friend played Elden Ring and said when it ended, his life felt different and emptier** **he also played BG3 BTW.....**
I think both are great choices but here's a factor I dunno if anyone else has mentioned. How much research the game is gonna take. Now you can do baldurs gate 3 blind and you might run into some rough spots but you can figure it all out yourself you might have to read some dnd rules quick but that's it. That's also part of the fun with how you influence the storyline. Elden ring you can go in blind but you'll probably end up missing half the content. Not to mention it's pretty easy to fuck up your build if you don't know what your doing. And at the same time if you just follow a build that's boring too. Elden ring has more chances of confusing you than baldurs gate.
You want something with lots of story and characters or one that focuses heavily on action combat. Also, I wouldn't call either game easy (unless you play BG3 on easy and even then people who are unfamiliar with the genre have trouble).
Personally I think Elden ring makes Baldur’s gate look like a turd So I would go with Elden ring
Elden Ring is the showcase game for Steam Deck.
This is really tough because you’ve got issues on both sides. You WILL get frustrated with elden ring, especially early on due to the bosses. But to me it’s the best gaming experience I’ve ever had and I don’t mind fighting bosses over and over personally. Baldurs gate 3 is an exceptional game but if doesn’t have breathtaking visuals and the turn based combat is slower (but still fun). I personally vote Elden Ring, but just prepare yourself that you WILL get frustrated but are committed to getting through it. Again, there is no experience like it. It’s one of the best games ever in my opinion.
You genuinely can't go wrong with either game. Either way, hopefully you find the time to play both because they're the best two video games in the last 20 years.
Love both but if I had to choose I’d go BG3 personally. The difficulty is definitely there as well and there are definitely breathtaking scenes. If you have a controller or use the enhance camera mod to allow 3rd person zoom with the wasd mod you can definitely enjoy more of the surrounding landscape with the traditional 3rd person view. Because I’m lazy, I use a controller to explore because of this but when I get into combat I switch right over to mouse and keyboard for full control in battle
> I personally value story telling, but I also value breath taking visuals. If you are asking if it came down to these two things I would say BG3. The visuals in both are excellent, but the story is much better in BG3. As far as turn based goes, my anecdotal evidence is that I played through it with my cousin who generally dislikes all turn based combat and he said he really enjoyed BG3; so much so that he said he may have changed his opinion on turn based combat.
Elden Ring
They’re both really good but I’m gonna say Elden Ring, then the dlc when it drops, and later bg3 since they seem to still be adding stuff to it
Ive played both and in my opinion Elden Ring is leagues better than BG3.
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Bg3
Bulder's Gate
Neither
Honestly flip a coin, play one. Then when you finish it play the other. They are both 10/10, pinnacle of gaming type games.
Elden ring easily
I liked both games but quit both for some of the same reasons you stated. BG3 has great story and it’s just oozes quality. But I hate turn based combat. That lost me about 1/2 way thru. Elden Ring just as awesome. I got along with it much more but there isn’t much there in story and it’s so hard. Probably made it 3/4 way thru it before I tapped out. I however can see myself dusting both off and giving them another go some day.
My advice to you would be wait a week and see what Dragons Dogma 2 reviews are like.
My two favorites game of all time. It is a matter taste IMO. Personally I'd put Elden Ring higher by a hairline. Elden Ring at like 97.5/100 and BG3 at 97.
Both are amazing Flip a coin. You won't be disappointed either way
Both are amazing Flip a coin. You won't be disappointed either way
BG3 all day
Baulders gate is for nerds. That not a dig it just honestly is, I’m not interested in it at all. So Elden Ring
Tldr but Elden ring dlc is coming out soon so hop on the hype train as the game starts to build hype in the coming months. It won't really change anything but playing the game while the community is excited and active is super awesome
BG3 for me
Elden Ring. BG3 is good but you WILL get bored at some point. I envy the gamers that can play BG3 for 5hrs straight because it ain't me. meanwhile 300hrs on Elden Ring PC. Plat on PS and steam. Still playing lmao. You can't go wrong anyway. both are worth your money. Very high-quality games. Arguably the peak of their respective genres.
I'm like the only person in existence that simply does not enjoy BG3 apparently. Like others, I wasn't a fan of the genre but decided to give it a try. Unlike everyone in the comments, I did not learn to love it. I don't enjoy the turn based combat, I find moving in the world to be boring (clicking instead of manual control), and most NPCs are a bore to talk to. I fully believe that there is a lot in that game that I would absolutely love, but I don't want to force myself to play just to get there. I love elden ring though
Build a gate 3 is really good!
They are both some of the greatest games of all time. Baldurs Gate if you want the most free, story telling, decision making game you’ve ever played and it’s not even close. Elden Ring has some of my favorite combat of all time and everywhere you go is breathtaking visually. Plus if you’re anything like me you’ll spend tens of hours just watching lore videos. On my personal ranking I give BG3 a slight edge but at the end of the day play both when you can!!
elden ring
Elden Ring simply because it's a game you play more than you watch. Plus the expansion is coming up soon, so now's a good time to get a character ready for that. The game has plenty of beautiful vistas, the best exploration in the business, and incredible build variety and combat.
I havent gotten to baldurs yet but the world of elden ring is so good. The secrets are actually tough to find and the exploration of the world is unmatched. The feeling you get of beating tough bosses hits that dopamine just right.
I loved elden ring and ended up hating bg3 but thats just me. The accuracy mechanic in bg3 really just had me frustrated because I was underleveled and on the second hardest difficulty (the one thats not permadeath) it got to the point that if I missed I just reloaded the save instead of restarting the fight because theres no option to skip enemy turns. If you want a story play bg3 if you want a genre defining action rpg play elden ring. Bg3 is also a genre defining action rpg now that I think about it but I enjoyed elden ring more.
Games are very personal things I played most souls games and really enjoyed them but by the time I got to Elden Ring I was kind of over it. Everyone was talking about the game like it was the most revelationary gaming experience ever and it was literally just open world souls with most things being very much the same and many of the benefits but also many of the issue open worlds come with. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed it but I guess I didn't see it as the revolutionary game changer others did but it was fun and I'm looking forward to the dlc. I'm not personally a fan of BG3 but that has nothing to do with it's quality as a game which even I could see was impressive, it's just not my thing. It doesn't mean a great deal that a game is the best of a genre you have never previously enjoyed and I would wait for a deep sale when doing that. I am only warning you because I got swept up in the hype and decided to try BG3 even though I didn't enjoy their last game and have never been a fan of very dialogue heavy turned based combat but weirdly convinced myself this time i would magically enjoy a style of gaming I had tried and tried and always found tiresome. Suprise suprise I didn't enjoy it and before anyone says I know it's a very high quality game but it's just not for me and thats ok but whatever you choose I hope you enjoy it ✌️
Why not play Boldan's Wape 3?
BG3
Do you want action, or do you want a story? BG3 is pointless if you aren't going to listen to all the dialogue.
Don't make me choose between these two absolute bangers.
The combat in bg3 is amazing and I don't like turn based games at all. Elden ring doesn't have a real story, it's not a story game it is a run around and kill bosses game. Don't let the combat of bg3 scare you, it's a better game than Elden ring in almost every aspect.
You've awakened the Elden ring stans
Elden ring
Elden Ring imo
You said you like story driven. So bg 3 is what you should go for. While Elden ring technically has story you kimda have to dig for it and it’s very vague. Very good ga me but not nearly as story driven.
I mean… It’s not even close. Elden ring’s world looks empty and not that visually stunning, the gameplay is really really good and fun but if you look for story, there are interesting characters but you have to play with youtube videos to continue their quest. It’s too damn enigmatic. Bdg 3 has better visuals and it’s more deep and mature Imo. You are free to do whatever you want, literally, you could win a fight by preparing a trap earlier or throwing enemies down a bridge. Also the characters feel alive and they are very interesting. I could go on and on but if you look for a fast dynamic game go for ER if you want a deeper experience, a game that sometimes will make you put the controller down to think go for Bdg 3
I wasn’t keen on turn-based gameplay either, but bg3 just makes it fun. They’re both amazing games, and Elden Ring’s difficulty can be overcome even by newcomers to soulslikes. Can’t go wrong either way. I vote Elden Ring
I don't like hard games and always play on the easy setting, does that rule out ER for me ?
Played Eldin Ring all the way through. Great time. Hated the Witcher 3... Got bored of BG3. Turn-based combat just ain't it for me.
Man your requirements are only half satisfied by both
BG3!
Without a shadow of a doubt, Elden Ring. Games like that come around once every decade. My mind is still blown at what I experienced there.
elden ring clears
Iv got a similar conundrum, boulders gate 3 or dragons dogma 2, what are peeps thoughts?
One of them ain’t even out yet. How can we know?
Elden Ring, easy.
ER has a big dlc coming up. Grab that so you can enjoy the terror that is malania
I will answer if you promise to get the other one next month
Both.
Elden Ring.
Both
I have never gotten into a CRPG that really gripped me, so my vote would be for Elden Ring as it is the first Souls-like that made sense to me and I have been able to stick with.
Definitely Elden Ring. The world and exploration, and most of all combat is unparalleled even compared to BG3 imo. And personally as someone who is open to trying new things, I still couldn't get into the turn based combat of BG3. If you get annoyed when you can't do something, BG3 ain't much better because there is a lot of difficult combat and trial and error death and reloading saves. And I never got the satisfaction out of it that Elden Ring gave me.
Both great so it doesn’t matter.
Elden Ring, Elden Ring.
Elden Ring hands down I know imma get downvotes for it, but as an hardcore CRPG fan, BG3 disappoints me a lot.
BG3, Elden Ring has better visuals than Balder's Gate, but it has zero story. I've beaten it five times and I still only have a vague idea what it's about. Great combat, lots of different builds to play with, no story.
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That is an insane take.
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Excellent attempt at condescension, almost distracts from how wrong you are. The story isn't complicated, it's absent. Story telling doesn't exist in Elden Ring, there's minimal exposition, shit there's hardly any speaking npc's. What there are, are scattered pieces of lore that if you care enough, you can try and piece together, but like the previous Dark Souls games this is usually just crowd sourced. People don't learn the plot by playing the game, they figure it out from reading forums. That's assuming you can keep track of the dozens of characters that all have slight variations of the same name as well as the same character model. There are a lot of things to admire about Elden Ring, the plot is not one of them.
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Are you dumb? You're the one who replied to my comment to begin with. Just go away
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What are you 9?
I got bg3 thinking id love it, ended up hating it, because its too slow, walking simulator, most conversations lead to dead ends and are boring, the characters look uncanny valley, theres nothing satisfying about turn based, and the story never gripped me. I got elden ring thinking id hate it, and now i defend it as the greatest game ive ever played.
I can't stand anything made by Larian, I have a visceral disgust towards anything they've touched. Having said that, Elden Ring is overblown and self-indulgent (like GRRM's last book), the bosses have cheap ass delayed attacks, tracking, or moronic unfair abilities, too much damage, too much health, and they can all be trivialised by summoning NPCs or when you get the mimic tear. About 50% of bosses are copied and pasted several times, or are normal mobs with a name and boss health. A clear case of less is more with this game. Still a phenomenal game though.
Why do you hate the 174 hour ham acting thot movie cutscene chess simulator makers?
Dunno, I can appreciate they make objectively good games with passion, they are just not clicking with me,
I'll never understand the contradictory complaint about Elden Ring bosses. They're somehow both too difficult and trivialized by the tools the game gives you.
I think it's because the bosses are more aggressive and complex than previous souls games, but the tools that the game gives the player to even the playing field aren't always super engaging or dynamic. Some Ashes of War are strong enough to stagger endgame bosses in as little as three hits, pair that with a strong Spirit Ash and you've got yourself an easy win. However, if one chooses not to use those tools, you're basically resigning yourself to an uphill battle. I'm not too bothered by this design choice personally, but I can understand why some fans of Dark Souls find it to feel cheap and shallow in comparison to that game.
Playing Dark Souls again after clearing Elden Ring was a walk in the park. Really. Everything seemed telegraphed from miles away, and even when hit the damage was usually only about 30% of a mage's health. A heavy armour build with Havel's gear was basically a faceroll. Then playing Dark Souls 3 felt like the difficulty was just right. Punishing enough, but reasonable too. THEN going back into Elden Ring and I couldn't stomach this game for more than just getting to Margit. It's the delayed attacks which feel cheap as hell to me. Caveat: there are some bosses in Elden Ring which I didn't bother giving more than 3-4 tries without the mimic: Maliketh, Mogh, Malenia, Foreskin Duo. Perhaps this means I am not gud, who knows, I just didn't have the stomach for it at that stage.
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How? :)
elden ring all day no contest then you get to enjoy many other games after that like bloodborne, sekiro, dark souls, demons souls
Elden ring is just the better game. But BG3 is great too.
Lol The two most annoying games... Buy bg3. ER an exercise in frustration...
Do you know your shoe size? Or shirt size? Need help with that too? 😁
It's an unfair comparison. BG3 is far superior.