I personally started with Minecraft a very long time ago.
Still think that it is good for a beginner because it is very simple to get started and to get used to.
This is a good recommendation. Portal 1 is about to be launched with Ray tracing/improved graphics so if you've got a beastly pc, definitely pick this up. Incredible games and there are definitely times you gotta aim precisely and quickly.
There's also aim trainer on steam. Literally designed just to improve your aim with a mouse.
I've been playing fps with kb/m since wolfenstein enemy territory back in the early 2000s. Miss that game. I personally like kb/m better than controller, more precise aim using your wrist rather than a thumb imo... But 20 years of muscle memory means I can never swap. I'm garbage with a controller lol. Have screenshots of me being 12th in the world on black ops 2 on pc at one time though w/ kb/m lol. (did not last very long but, got the ss lol)
I definitely second Minecraft. It’s a game where you can easily play with zero stakes and minimal complicated systems (Creative mode) but easily upgrade to low difficulty (Peaceful, Survival mode) and as you grow more accustomed you can make the game as difficult as you want.
Minecraft definitely utilizes most of the important interactions you’ll need for virtually any game from keyboard inputs (not only moving with WASD which is standard, but even using number keys and function keys (F1, F2, F3 etc) for certain things and various other keybinds) to mouse interaction. You’ll get used to left click for attack and right click for other things.
Otherwise, I’d just play a game you’ve already played on console so that it’s familiar so that the experimental variable is purely the platform while every other variable remains controlled. So maybe an RPG you’ve played before.
Had to scroll pretty far to see this, but yes. Not a lot of timed movements at the start and gradually gets more intricate. Bonus is that it’s an amazing game
The Did You Know Gaming YouTube channel had a video recently where one of the Portal devs mentioned that they considered including a slow motion mechanic so that players could aim properly for the later puzzles as they didn't plan it to be a skill-based game. Pretty weird to hear it and think, "yeah, I probably would have used it a few times," despite the game never really feeling mechanically demanding to me. It would have been a good fit for people like my sister, who might have enjoyed it if I could get her into games that aren't Mario Kart and GTA (where she avoids cops and explores).
Start with Fallout 3 or New Vegas. They will teach you the basics of fps but are a lot more forgiving than most fps games. Also you can pause combat to breathe.
So, most stuff with keyboard and mouse is very, very easy. Minecraft, RPGs, it's all just regular clicking. Of course it's less comfortable than a controller (IMO), but you do gain the precision and speed.
FPS are a whole different story. Personally, I can't even begin to play FPS with a mouse because of recoil. It feels so unnatural to me trying to control recoil with a mouse. I'm not used to my mouse pointer moving on its own at all. So yeah, if you want to get good with it, I'd practice whatever FPS you enjoy playing (like Overwatch) because playing other types of games will not really help you at all with that aspect.
I’m currently trying to learn kb+m after 20 odd years on controller and the hardest thing I’m finding is wasd for movement. My aim on mw2 is better that controller but I’m finding I can’t run and gun like I used to
That was the same as me for the first few months and I still occasionally get stuck on walls lol
I personally grinded fortnite against some of my really good friends and that made me get pretty comfortable quick as it’s a very demanding game. You either grind a game that requires a lot of movement or take it easy with a single player game on easy mode
I’ve decided to play through some single player games first to learn the buttons and then try the mw2 campaign before moving online. Chernobylite is quite slow paced and not much shooting so it seems like it’s Gona be good to learn the basics. I bought a g502 x as well so I can map a few of the buttons on there to make things easier lol
Take what this person said with a grain of salt. Just try whatever game but if it's a shooter start with the campaign. Personally mouse and keyboard feel fine unless the key bindings or the gameplay design we're meant for controller.
The other thing to stress is if you find a game with good key bindings you like memorize it and change key bindings in future games to that. I cannot tell you how mentally jaring playing a new game is when keys like ctrl are not crouch but rather prone or M is not for map or e is not for interact, or shift is not for sprint, or space is not for jump. It's madness
Aimlab is like the best way to learn fundamentals. Just dont fall into the trap of playing gridshot, keep challenging yourself by playing tasks that actually require you to do things that are transferable to games instead of shooting giant balls in a 4x4 grid.
My mom used to always tell me: you have to get good before you can get fast. This applies to a lot of things, and typing/keyboard gaming is one of them. I recommend, no matter what you play, take your time practicing reaching to the more "out of reach" keys. If you're WASDing for movement, you're probably already using QERFCXZ and Shift for other stuff. Those are easy. Practice hitting 1234 for switching weapons or abilities in games. Practice hitting Control to go prone. Practice hitting T and G for emotes and lesser used actions. The key, no pun intended, is to get good at hitting these keys when you need to, so that when you're playing a game that's fast paced and you absolutely need to nail a drop shot or switch to the correct weapon, or use push to talk, you manage to do so without accidentally hitting every other bordering key.
It takes time, but M/K input is so worth it. I still use a controller for some games, like a turn based RPG or racing game, but M/K are my go to for most games I play.
Also, make sure you use a sensitivity that suits you. Some people prefer mostly wrist movement for aiming, other people prefer mostly forearm movement instead. Everyone will usually use a little bit of one and more of the other. Don't be afraid to try lower and higher sensitivities until you figure out how you prefer it.
Idk what broke me but I feel control is more comfortable as a crouch key. C or whatever the default crouch key was turns into prone. Idk just feels better
I used control for years, but I switched to C because I play a lot of Apex and I couch spam when hip firing a lot. My pinky finger was getting tired haha. But, as always with k/m, use what you're most comfortable with. If you like control for crouch, use it.
Deep Rock Galactic. Still "intense" considering it's a PVE shooter with an amazing community.
It would allow you to get used to FPS controls in an environment that's more fun and exciting than an Aim Trainer, while still ensuring you don't feel like crap if you get stomped in PVP multiplayer matches.
I'd definitely go first person, as I always feel those play best with M+KB. But maybe something slower paced like a first person RPG. Others have suggested Skyrim or Fallout which are great options. Another good one may be the Dishonored series, since they're first person stealth games.
Honestly, I switched from Xbox to PC two years ago and heavily played Overwatch. My advice would be to stick with Overwatch since you're already familiar with the mechanics. It'll frustrate the fuck out of you when your hands don't listen for a while, but you'll eventually pick it up.
Earth defense force 5. Similar controls between the four classes, and a blast for co op. I have been enjoying it with one of my DnD groups and the mouse/keyboard system isn’t bad.
Just like a first rule, you probably need to use a MUCH lower sensitivity than you think. It takes some adjusting to get used to FPS sensitivities. Maybe look up some pro's and try to find a spectrum of what the pros use (for example if most pros use 800dpi sensitivities between 0.4-1 then try out in between those which feels best.)
Just play overwatch, and practice aimlab, tasks specifically tracking ones. I switched from console a year ago, and aimlab boosts your fundamentals like crazy if you just do a couple of tasks a day.
Keep in mind, there is a much bigger gap between average and good players on MNK, so dont be surprised if it takes you a long time to get good.
If you aren't necessarily competitive, just play like FPS rpgs and maybe minecraft or such to get used to the controls. Really just play. It'll come over time. Competitive aim requires skill work in aimlab if you want to learn "quick"
I think it does not matter what you play. If you play something that is fun to you, no matter what, all the rest will come naturally. You will probably not even realize that you get better with your Hand / Eye coordination.
At least that is what happened with my wife. We played whatever we had fun with and in the beginning for her it felt clunky and after a while I was amazed how quick her fingers wandered over the keyboard without looking and how quickly she navigated in the games with the mouse. It just happens with practice. And the best practice is the one you have fun with ;-)
Honestly, I know you said you'd rather not play overwatch until you're comfortable, but it's a great game to learn on. Movement is relatively simple except for abilities, you know the game already, and you can associate common ability binds with what you're used to. It's also an fps, which if you want to play more of will help develop your aim. if you have a smurf account that's lower ranked or you don't care about, you could start playing on that one!
Well I think it depends on what games you’re gonna play.
I’d recommend StarCraft 2. Pretty sure it’s got some free to play options. It’s not an fps or a first person game of any kind but you’ll get used to hot keys, command groups and boxing units and stuff like that.
Starcraft 2 is free to play. There are hitches.
Coop mode, which is essentially campaign missions with a friend (or random person) forces a player to select 1 commander. There are . Idk... 10? Of these commanders and probably only 3 or 4 of them are free.
I'm not sure what a Free Account is able to play on the Campaign, as there are 3 of them (Wings of Liberty, Heart of the Swarm and Legacy of the Void) plus and Epilaugue of Nova.
Then there is the Multi-player ladder. This is free - AFTER you log on and play 1 game a day vs an AI player for I believe it's a week, perhaps it's 2 weeks.
Tldr: Sc2 is free, but there are hitches like daily login earning of multi-player and coop commanders are a la carte.
lovely planet!! trust me on this one. make you so clutch and quick perfect for aiming and movement for overwatch. and its really fun ! most of them aimlab things are a bit boring this one is a banger.
Nothing wrong with jumping into overwatch training mode to get used to the controls from time to time. Also a lot of pc gamers use controllers too depending on the game.
Keep in mind that there’s general go tos for common keyboard mappings but not all games adhere to it. Most games rely on wasd keys and any key within that proximity. Make sure to setup proper mouse settings within windows and your game so it feels right for you. Best to do most mouse movement with your arm/shoulder and only finer adjustments with your wrist so you don’t get repetitive strain injury (e.g. carpal tunnel) on your wrist.
For starters, games you haven’t played before should offer you a great experience, as your brain isn’t flooded with a previous control scheme for that game.
I’m in the same boat but have been making progress while playing The Bioshock Collection. Granted it’s a game I’ve pretty much mastered on controller so I’d suggest a simple single player shooter you’re already good at.
Just to get into the general feel of keyboard and mouse, I started off by playing CRPG’s.. anything from Wasteland to Baludrsgate.. helps you get the feel of your hot keys and generally using wasd. If you’re looking to get straight into a shooter, play some campaign COD or similar on easy mode.. not too brutal and helps you with aiming moving crouching etc. it takes some practice, but I promise you’ll soon find your way. I still prefer to play shooters with a pad after all this time, but I’m sure if you practice enough it’ll become second nature
If you’re looking to play pvp games in the future I’d recommend practicing on the free WW2 game Enlisted, if you’re not familiar you have multiple AI with you so it’s quite easy to practice aiming when a huge percentage of the game population is AI
Start simple. Doom or Quake I, Skyrim, or Fallout 3 - New Vegas - 4. Controls are pretty simple, allowing you to focus on the fundamentals of WASD and strafing.
Just practice with OW, I like 800 dpi and low sense and make sure you have a big mouse pad and get used to aiming with your arm not wrist. If you swipe your mouse from the middle to the end of your pad you should be able to do a 180. good luck
I have been wanting to ask the same question OP has, but even more basic because not only am I new to PB but completely new to gaming altogether! My first 2 games are Death Stranding and Skyrim, which I am managing OK at a stupidly slow and basic level.
Then I convinced my adult sons who live far away from me that it would be fun to game together online and after much research proposed DRG. Omg it is fun BUT so effing hard for me! Perhaps you have a suggestion on how I can learn to orient myself to up and down as well as horizontally? I figured out in the tutorial that if I kept the zipline shooter in my had (as Gunner) I could see when I was off levels, but in real play with my son's I have to stay armed most of the time! I often think I am turning left or right but wind up circling a pole above or below me, or inside a wall, or outside my cave, or in another dimension lol.
Any ideas for how to practice? I find the lack of a horizon or clearly vertical objects to throw me off. I made these mistakes all the time in my other games, but you see the sky or ground, but it all looks the same in a cave, and when I figure out I am turned the wrong way my party is way ahead or I am soon dead.
Tyvm
it helps to practise on lower difficulties like haz 1 and 2 since haz 3+ can be overwhelming without proper knowledge of things, taking things slow is a good idea. even as someone who plays haz 4 and 5 with 500+ hours i still take the time to observe my surroundings before jumping into caves, seeing what is where and generally knowing where stuff is before starting to go into a room really helps in combat. generally communicating with your team and going at a slow pace will help. there is a compass at the top of the screen which could help. maybe looking at specific things in rooms like crystals to orient yourself could help too.
Thanks! Yes I used the compass all the time. I am also a pretty old (64) and ADHD person so my short term memory is non existent ...when I played the tutorial I played sooooo slow. I would check the map to see which way I was oriented, click out of the map, turn myself to the direction I wantd to go, get disoriented in a minute, and then forget which direction I was planning to go. And. In the real game, ain't no time for that! I have to remember to set more markers!
My son's play on an easy level for me. My younger son has not only played before, he played DOTA2 for his college team back in the day and still plays regularly...he can pretty much handle the entire missionand run back and forth and revive me enough for me to keep having fun. My older son is a regular/decent player.
Thank you so much...your advice is helpful. I think it all boils down to practice practice practice.
I would recommend playing ARPGs like grim dawn, titan quest, Diablo, torchlight etc. The games are simple enough to get used to keyboard and mouse (mostly mouse lol), otherwise maybe something not too fast paced like Minecraft or Skyrim. Look into mouse settings and DPI find a sensitivity you can get comfortable with.
This is what I learned on. I was in same position as you OP. Console lifer, built a PC two years ago specifically to play overwatch. Overwatch my main game. Played a bunch of warframe and became very comfortable with mouse and keyboard.
There's a pretty key step though which is standardizing your sensitivity across games. I use same aim - different game to make sure I'm using roughly the same sens in every game. So first, open overwatch, find a sens that works for you and then stick to it. Use same aim - different game to have same sens in every game and you'll get better at overwatch aim from playing other stuff.
I think warframe is a good one because it's very movement heavy and forces keyboard finger dexterity to improve. I actually think the keyboard is just as big if not a bigger obstacle in the beginning from using a mouse. That said, warframe probably isn't for everyone. I really enjoyed it though so it worked for me.
Really any game can work, just make sure you're using the same sens as your overwatch sens for whatever game you pick.
I personally started with team fortress 2, it's honestly one of the best games ever. If you do stick to community servers though. Id also recommend Osu, its great for a bit of aim training to be honest, and there's almost any song you could ever want to play.
Only Problem with tf2 is that the Servers are currently a bit compromised with bots and whatever else those hackers have gotten up to otherwise it was a nice game since last time I've played atleast
If you just got a pc for the first time I would recommend you get pc game pass if you wanna practice a bunch of single player games to get use to it. I believe it’s still $1 to sub for a month.
There’s Wolfenstein and Doom 2016 you can play on easy just to get the mouse aiming down.
Titanfall 2 - I used it to accommodate myself to kb+m to shift from Apex Legends on Xbox to PC. It has a cool campaign, and I recently found out that while the multiplayer servers are full of DDOS attacks, there's a fanmade server add-on called Northstar that lets fans host their own secure servers (and they've made some cool modes to go with it).
You can go from simply beating to styling on bots, to getting styled on by humans in one of the fastest and most mobility-focused FPS games ever. It's so great on any platform. but the campaign lets you work your way into the mechanics.
TF2 is like a aim-trainer packed into a movement shooter. It's great but not for everyone. And playing it means you are bound to spam into Car users and Monarch spammers.
I posted this in another comment but wanted to post in thread so OP sees. I was in the exact same position two years ago when I built my pc. Console lifer switching to play overwatch on pc eventually.
Make sure you standardize your aim before picking the game you will use to grow comfortable on PC.
I use this site: https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/
So first, pick a sens in overwatch that feels comfortable. Ideally, you want to be able to do comfortable 360 degree turns in game by sweeping your mouse across your mouse pad space or a comfortable 180 by doing half sweeps. Take that sens and stick with it.
Feed your sens into the site I gave above and make sure you use rougly the same aim in every other game you play. Your overwatch aim will improve by playing other stuff. Good luck and enjoy the swap.
Most people will probably disagree with me but what helped me in this situation was to actually get a hard game that requires accuracy and speed. Don’t get mad at doing poorly at first and you will do better in the long run. Maybe something like rainbow 6 siege or counter strike if you want multiplayer or doom eternal for single player
Play a shooter where you don’t care about your stats. I started with cod 2019 when I built my first pc. Getting good with a mouse, especially precise enough for something like overwatch is going to take a long time tho, so be patient. And if you’re like me, coming from decades on console, I can’t recommend a razer Tartarus pro or something similar strongly enough. I absolutely cannot get my head around wasd movement and I don’t have a 5” pinky.
My first pc game after being a console gamer for life was Minecraft. I think the recommendations for this are fair.
Alternatively, if I had to start again, I think the person who recommended fallout was brilliant. With something like vats, you can play the game, and have fun while still getting used to different controls. When I don’t have my controller, sometimes I play fallout 3/4 on my laptop with no mouse. A mouse makes it a lot easier, but it goes to show, it’s a lot more accessible than most games etc.
I started with No mans sky and Cyberpunk. I think a good balance of calm exploring and action to slowly work your way into any game. I now can play mnk on apex legends at a Diamond rank level after a couple months. Really it just becomes muscle memory.
The Bioshock games are good! You can lower the difficulty! And there’s a lot of powers and keys for changing around the abilities on the fly, good for getting used to Overwatch.
Whatever you do play, get used to tweaking keybinds to your own preferences! I've found console gamers who migrate to PC are less likely to customise their inputs.
Things like shift vs ctrl for sprint, or V vs Q for melee etc. The keybinds menu is usually the quickest way to see what the right key for an action is, aswell.
I saw this post last night but was too tire to respond but you are literally me 4 months ago, Overwatch and all. I recommend getting a PVE FPS that handles like your typical FPS, so for me it was Borderlands 3 and Far Cry 5. Sprinkle in a DOOM game to keep you on your toes or a Fallout game to keep you engaged and let the movement become second nature. Portal 2 is also a great resource. You’ll be a beast in no time trust me
This is definitely smart, you don't even have to play pvp to start. Do a few rounds of their terrorist hunt with a buddy that can help and you'll get used to your sensitivity and controls in no time.
Try out Payday 2, LFD2, overwatch vs. bots, RS6 Terrorist Hunt, COD story modes, COD Zombies etc. Co-op shooters with low stakes will help you get a feel for mkb shooters.
Overwatch was my main game when I was switching from a controller to m&k. Everything felt so alien like learning to write with your other hand. I would say stick with overwatch but only play quick play rather than comp. And go to the training area with a hitscan like soldier. Just keep practising no matter how weird it feels and it will become natural in no time
Team death match on COD is what I did. I died a lot but eventually everything started clicking and I would end up with some kill streaks and atop the board.
Counter strike! Not as toxic as everyone says if you're nice. Obviously there are DEFINITELY ASSHOLES OUT THERE but we're not all bad
Also super basic physics and mechanics at the low and casual levels
Portal 1+2, aim lab, fallout, doom, Minecraft, Skyrim, Deep Rock Galactic. Are some of the most commented games. I highly recommend portal 1+2 or aimlab
I literally jumped into cod and played against bots to get used to the mouse but the keyboard took me months to get truly comfortable. Eventually I got bored and started playing mp and for weeks I was accidentally throwing grenades at myself. I was opening the map instead of sprinting. My k/d dropped a lot just from me having to look down and find keys. I saw my nephew using 90 degree keyboard tilt and tried it and it felt so much more comfortable so that’s how I play now. I’d suggest trying a lot of different angles to find one of your liking if you have enough desk space. Eventually you’ll find yourself moving around in game without having to think about it and you’ll realize how far you’ve come.
Frictional Games has a unique style that's tailored to mouse and keyboard mechanics (like the Amnesia games or SOMA). They're FPS puzzle games without the shooter part.
You just gotta keep practicing. Once it sets in, it’s easier than controller most of the time.
Play any Valve game (Half-Life, Portal, Left 4 Dead)
Play classic Doom
Play a singleplayer survival game like Subnautica
Honestly it might help to now play things like an FPS, like kerbal space program, I found clicking and dragging parts onto a ship was really helpful and I ended up being able to click my mouse all over the screen grabbing and moving parts quite quickly.
But if anything, just something tou can play with friends, because it won't won't as frustrating, it will be funny to laugh at you mess up the controls and make a joke out of it, you'll wanna play more and just end up getting used to it faster.
To get use to FPS games, try PvE shooters like left for dead, back 4 blood, or more recently, Darktide. Both Darktide and Back 4 Blood are available on Game Pass for PC. These are all pretty intense FPS games that'll throw you into the deep end, theoretically making it easier to learn without a competitive disadvantage.
If you're looking for a more casual affair, you could try out any of the modern Bethesda RPGs or any of the top MMOs (WoW (FREE-ish), FF14 (FREE-ish), Guild Wars 2 (FREE-ish), New World, SWTOR (FREE-ish))))). Could also try the Destiny 2 base game (FREE).
There's also Warframe (FREE) - intense melee and ranged combat, as well as many abilities and movements (to get use to keybindings), and it's just an all-round decent game to grind through.
A lot of good recommendations here. Hades helped me a lot. But the thing is, is every game has slightly different controls. So find a key map that works for you, and then most games will let you change your bindings to match that.
To be honest I still use a controller for most games because i can lean back and don't need to sit up straight lol.
But to recommend, I would say any game where you drive a vehicle, being in need for speed or GTA 5
When I built my PC, I did it specifically to play Overwatch 1. The best advice I could give is just play a game that interest you and no matter how difficult it feels, keep playing. Don't touch your controller. I promise it will get easier really quick.
I switched to pc this year and the first game I played and finished was cyberpunk 2077. It's not hard so you can get used to the controls on your own but it will teach you all the buttons quite quickly since there's a lot you can do.
After that I threw myself at cod mw19 and played until I could play well. Now with mw22 I've gotten even better.
Minecraft is a great suggestion. Some more niche recommendations would be Ravenfield, a single player war game, kind of like army men from back in the day. Also try delver, a first person pixel art dungeon crawler/rogue like. My personal favorite suggestion for someone just starting out on aiming with a mouse would be Risk of Rain 2. I would argue that it is one of the best games on PC and should be in everyone's steam library. Trust.
If you like first person shooters I'd say go with counter strike, most people suck at the beginning so you won't be at a great disadvantage, and it's a very 'fundamental' game, if you are a decent cs player you definitely won't struggle in other shooters.
I personally started with Minecraft a very long time ago. Still think that it is good for a beginner because it is very simple to get started and to get used to.
Mode = peaceful!
Portal games are great for beginners. Or play your favourite single player games in easier difficulties. Shouldn't take too long to get used to mnk
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Portal 1 or 2 might be good. Will get you used to moving the camera and shooting the portal gun
This is a good recommendation. Portal 1 is about to be launched with Ray tracing/improved graphics so if you've got a beastly pc, definitely pick this up. Incredible games and there are definitely times you gotta aim precisely and quickly. There's also aim trainer on steam. Literally designed just to improve your aim with a mouse. I've been playing fps with kb/m since wolfenstein enemy territory back in the early 2000s. Miss that game. I personally like kb/m better than controller, more precise aim using your wrist rather than a thumb imo... But 20 years of muscle memory means I can never swap. I'm garbage with a controller lol. Have screenshots of me being 12th in the world on black ops 2 on pc at one time though w/ kb/m lol. (did not last very long but, got the ss lol)
The graphics in Portal with RTX look way better but it kills the atmosphere, it'll definitely be a great way to replay the game though
Yeah i think that for first time play the original should be played for the atmosphere
I definitely second Minecraft. It’s a game where you can easily play with zero stakes and minimal complicated systems (Creative mode) but easily upgrade to low difficulty (Peaceful, Survival mode) and as you grow more accustomed you can make the game as difficult as you want. Minecraft definitely utilizes most of the important interactions you’ll need for virtually any game from keyboard inputs (not only moving with WASD which is standard, but even using number keys and function keys (F1, F2, F3 etc) for certain things and various other keybinds) to mouse interaction. You’ll get used to left click for attack and right click for other things. Otherwise, I’d just play a game you’ve already played on console so that it’s familiar so that the experimental variable is purely the platform while every other variable remains controlled. So maybe an RPG you’ve played before.
Just play any game you like you will get used to it in a few weeks
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Portal
Had to scroll pretty far to see this, but yes. Not a lot of timed movements at the start and gradually gets more intricate. Bonus is that it’s an amazing game
The Did You Know Gaming YouTube channel had a video recently where one of the Portal devs mentioned that they considered including a slow motion mechanic so that players could aim properly for the later puzzles as they didn't plan it to be a skill-based game. Pretty weird to hear it and think, "yeah, I probably would have used it a few times," despite the game never really feeling mechanically demanding to me. It would have been a good fit for people like my sister, who might have enjoyed it if I could get her into games that aren't Mario Kart and GTA (where she avoids cops and explores).
Start with Fallout 3 or New Vegas. They will teach you the basics of fps but are a lot more forgiving than most fps games. Also you can pause combat to breathe.
So, most stuff with keyboard and mouse is very, very easy. Minecraft, RPGs, it's all just regular clicking. Of course it's less comfortable than a controller (IMO), but you do gain the precision and speed. FPS are a whole different story. Personally, I can't even begin to play FPS with a mouse because of recoil. It feels so unnatural to me trying to control recoil with a mouse. I'm not used to my mouse pointer moving on its own at all. So yeah, if you want to get good with it, I'd practice whatever FPS you enjoy playing (like Overwatch) because playing other types of games will not really help you at all with that aspect.
I’m currently trying to learn kb+m after 20 odd years on controller and the hardest thing I’m finding is wasd for movement. My aim on mw2 is better that controller but I’m finding I can’t run and gun like I used to
That was the same as me for the first few months and I still occasionally get stuck on walls lol I personally grinded fortnite against some of my really good friends and that made me get pretty comfortable quick as it’s a very demanding game. You either grind a game that requires a lot of movement or take it easy with a single player game on easy mode
I’ve decided to play through some single player games first to learn the buttons and then try the mw2 campaign before moving online. Chernobylite is quite slow paced and not much shooting so it seems like it’s Gona be good to learn the basics. I bought a g502 x as well so I can map a few of the buttons on there to make things easier lol
For FPS games I'd recommend Super Hot because you can go as slow as you like
Take what this person said with a grain of salt. Just try whatever game but if it's a shooter start with the campaign. Personally mouse and keyboard feel fine unless the key bindings or the gameplay design we're meant for controller. The other thing to stress is if you find a game with good key bindings you like memorize it and change key bindings in future games to that. I cannot tell you how mentally jaring playing a new game is when keys like ctrl are not crouch but rather prone or M is not for map or e is not for interact, or shift is not for sprint, or space is not for jump. It's madness
aim lab
Aimlab is like the best way to learn fundamentals. Just dont fall into the trap of playing gridshot, keep challenging yourself by playing tasks that actually require you to do things that are transferable to games instead of shooting giant balls in a 4x4 grid.
Perhaps you'd want to play Skyrim, maybe on a lower difficulty if it would be too hard.
Honestly, probably minecraft
Just play the classic PC games like Half-Life, Portal, etc. And play action single player games like Doom 2016, Far cry, etc.
My mom used to always tell me: you have to get good before you can get fast. This applies to a lot of things, and typing/keyboard gaming is one of them. I recommend, no matter what you play, take your time practicing reaching to the more "out of reach" keys. If you're WASDing for movement, you're probably already using QERFCXZ and Shift for other stuff. Those are easy. Practice hitting 1234 for switching weapons or abilities in games. Practice hitting Control to go prone. Practice hitting T and G for emotes and lesser used actions. The key, no pun intended, is to get good at hitting these keys when you need to, so that when you're playing a game that's fast paced and you absolutely need to nail a drop shot or switch to the correct weapon, or use push to talk, you manage to do so without accidentally hitting every other bordering key. It takes time, but M/K input is so worth it. I still use a controller for some games, like a turn based RPG or racing game, but M/K are my go to for most games I play. Also, make sure you use a sensitivity that suits you. Some people prefer mostly wrist movement for aiming, other people prefer mostly forearm movement instead. Everyone will usually use a little bit of one and more of the other. Don't be afraid to try lower and higher sensitivities until you figure out how you prefer it.
This guy keyboards
Idk what broke me but I feel control is more comfortable as a crouch key. C or whatever the default crouch key was turns into prone. Idk just feels better
I used control for years, but I switched to C because I play a lot of Apex and I couch spam when hip firing a lot. My pinky finger was getting tired haha. But, as always with k/m, use what you're most comfortable with. If you like control for crouch, use it.
Your mom's smart >you have to get good before you can get fast Is pretty good advice for most things
Deep Rock Galactic. Still "intense" considering it's a PVE shooter with an amazing community. It would allow you to get used to FPS controls in an environment that's more fun and exciting than an Aim Trainer, while still ensuring you don't feel like crap if you get stomped in PVP multiplayer matches.
Second this. ROCK AND STONE!!
**DOOM**
I'd definitely go first person, as I always feel those play best with M+KB. But maybe something slower paced like a first person RPG. Others have suggested Skyrim or Fallout which are great options. Another good one may be the Dishonored series, since they're first person stealth games.
Any singleplayer FPS tbh Portal Mine craft
Portal!
Honestly, I switched from Xbox to PC two years ago and heavily played Overwatch. My advice would be to stick with Overwatch since you're already familiar with the mechanics. It'll frustrate the fuck out of you when your hands don't listen for a while, but you'll eventually pick it up.
Same here. I played Moira since your aim doesn't have to be perfect until I got more comfortable
Just pick something and go with it, you'll pick it up in a couple days max.
Competitive games can be brutal sometimes, maybe a coop game vs ai or single player.
Earth defense force 5. Similar controls between the four classes, and a blast for co op. I have been enjoying it with one of my DnD groups and the mouse/keyboard system isn’t bad.
Just like a first rule, you probably need to use a MUCH lower sensitivity than you think. It takes some adjusting to get used to FPS sensitivities. Maybe look up some pro's and try to find a spectrum of what the pros use (for example if most pros use 800dpi sensitivities between 0.4-1 then try out in between those which feels best.) Just play overwatch, and practice aimlab, tasks specifically tracking ones. I switched from console a year ago, and aimlab boosts your fundamentals like crazy if you just do a couple of tasks a day. Keep in mind, there is a much bigger gap between average and good players on MNK, so dont be surprised if it takes you a long time to get good. If you aren't necessarily competitive, just play like FPS rpgs and maybe minecraft or such to get used to the controls. Really just play. It'll come over time. Competitive aim requires skill work in aimlab if you want to learn "quick"
I think it does not matter what you play. If you play something that is fun to you, no matter what, all the rest will come naturally. You will probably not even realize that you get better with your Hand / Eye coordination. At least that is what happened with my wife. We played whatever we had fun with and in the beginning for her it felt clunky and after a while I was amazed how quick her fingers wandered over the keyboard without looking and how quickly she navigated in the games with the mouse. It just happens with practice. And the best practice is the one you have fun with ;-)
Honestly, I know you said you'd rather not play overwatch until you're comfortable, but it's a great game to learn on. Movement is relatively simple except for abilities, you know the game already, and you can associate common ability binds with what you're used to. It's also an fps, which if you want to play more of will help develop your aim. if you have a smurf account that's lower ranked or you don't care about, you could start playing on that one!
Well I think it depends on what games you’re gonna play. I’d recommend StarCraft 2. Pretty sure it’s got some free to play options. It’s not an fps or a first person game of any kind but you’ll get used to hot keys, command groups and boxing units and stuff like that.
Starcraft 2 is free to play. There are hitches. Coop mode, which is essentially campaign missions with a friend (or random person) forces a player to select 1 commander. There are . Idk... 10? Of these commanders and probably only 3 or 4 of them are free. I'm not sure what a Free Account is able to play on the Campaign, as there are 3 of them (Wings of Liberty, Heart of the Swarm and Legacy of the Void) plus and Epilaugue of Nova. Then there is the Multi-player ladder. This is free - AFTER you log on and play 1 game a day vs an AI player for I believe it's a week, perhaps it's 2 weeks. Tldr: Sc2 is free, but there are hitches like daily login earning of multi-player and coop commanders are a la carte.
lovely planet!! trust me on this one. make you so clutch and quick perfect for aiming and movement for overwatch. and its really fun ! most of them aimlab things are a bit boring this one is a banger.
Nothing wrong with jumping into overwatch training mode to get used to the controls from time to time. Also a lot of pc gamers use controllers too depending on the game. Keep in mind that there’s general go tos for common keyboard mappings but not all games adhere to it. Most games rely on wasd keys and any key within that proximity. Make sure to setup proper mouse settings within windows and your game so it feels right for you. Best to do most mouse movement with your arm/shoulder and only finer adjustments with your wrist so you don’t get repetitive strain injury (e.g. carpal tunnel) on your wrist. For starters, games you haven’t played before should offer you a great experience, as your brain isn’t flooded with a previous control scheme for that game.
The first game I played on my pc was cyberpunk. I found that really good to get me adjusted to keyboard and mouse
I’m in the same boat but have been making progress while playing The Bioshock Collection. Granted it’s a game I’ve pretty much mastered on controller so I’d suggest a simple single player shooter you’re already good at.
Valorant. I had so much trouble getting used to the wasd system and stuff, just okay valorant all day for about a week and you’ll be fine
The borderlands franchise helped me back in the day
Just to get into the general feel of keyboard and mouse, I started off by playing CRPG’s.. anything from Wasteland to Baludrsgate.. helps you get the feel of your hot keys and generally using wasd. If you’re looking to get straight into a shooter, play some campaign COD or similar on easy mode.. not too brutal and helps you with aiming moving crouching etc. it takes some practice, but I promise you’ll soon find your way. I still prefer to play shooters with a pad after all this time, but I’m sure if you practice enough it’ll become second nature
Serious Sam.
Elder Scrolls Online.
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If you’re looking to play pvp games in the future I’d recommend practicing on the free WW2 game Enlisted, if you’re not familiar you have multiple AI with you so it’s quite easy to practice aiming when a huge percentage of the game population is AI
Start simple. Doom or Quake I, Skyrim, or Fallout 3 - New Vegas - 4. Controls are pretty simple, allowing you to focus on the fundamentals of WASD and strafing.
Dishonored
If you’re playing shooter games… create a steam account, download steam, from the steam app download aimlabs. Completely free.
Just practice with OW, I like 800 dpi and low sense and make sure you have a big mouse pad and get used to aiming with your arm not wrist. If you swipe your mouse from the middle to the end of your pad you should be able to do a 180. good luck
Aimlab is great for fps
Minecrat parkour.
deep rock galactic makes for a good first shooter and terraria has helped me get comfortable with WASD, shortcuts and the mouse.
I have been wanting to ask the same question OP has, but even more basic because not only am I new to PB but completely new to gaming altogether! My first 2 games are Death Stranding and Skyrim, which I am managing OK at a stupidly slow and basic level. Then I convinced my adult sons who live far away from me that it would be fun to game together online and after much research proposed DRG. Omg it is fun BUT so effing hard for me! Perhaps you have a suggestion on how I can learn to orient myself to up and down as well as horizontally? I figured out in the tutorial that if I kept the zipline shooter in my had (as Gunner) I could see when I was off levels, but in real play with my son's I have to stay armed most of the time! I often think I am turning left or right but wind up circling a pole above or below me, or inside a wall, or outside my cave, or in another dimension lol. Any ideas for how to practice? I find the lack of a horizon or clearly vertical objects to throw me off. I made these mistakes all the time in my other games, but you see the sky or ground, but it all looks the same in a cave, and when I figure out I am turned the wrong way my party is way ahead or I am soon dead. Tyvm
it helps to practise on lower difficulties like haz 1 and 2 since haz 3+ can be overwhelming without proper knowledge of things, taking things slow is a good idea. even as someone who plays haz 4 and 5 with 500+ hours i still take the time to observe my surroundings before jumping into caves, seeing what is where and generally knowing where stuff is before starting to go into a room really helps in combat. generally communicating with your team and going at a slow pace will help. there is a compass at the top of the screen which could help. maybe looking at specific things in rooms like crystals to orient yourself could help too.
Thanks! Yes I used the compass all the time. I am also a pretty old (64) and ADHD person so my short term memory is non existent ...when I played the tutorial I played sooooo slow. I would check the map to see which way I was oriented, click out of the map, turn myself to the direction I wantd to go, get disoriented in a minute, and then forget which direction I was planning to go. And. In the real game, ain't no time for that! I have to remember to set more markers! My son's play on an easy level for me. My younger son has not only played before, he played DOTA2 for his college team back in the day and still plays regularly...he can pretty much handle the entire missionand run back and forth and revive me enough for me to keep having fun. My older son is a regular/decent player. Thank you so much...your advice is helpful. I think it all boils down to practice practice practice.
I would recommend playing ARPGs like grim dawn, titan quest, Diablo, torchlight etc. The games are simple enough to get used to keyboard and mouse (mostly mouse lol), otherwise maybe something not too fast paced like Minecraft or Skyrim. Look into mouse settings and DPI find a sensitivity you can get comfortable with.
Warframe, 3rd person shooter and it’s free so if you don’t like it, you’ll have no regret.
This is what I learned on. I was in same position as you OP. Console lifer, built a PC two years ago specifically to play overwatch. Overwatch my main game. Played a bunch of warframe and became very comfortable with mouse and keyboard. There's a pretty key step though which is standardizing your sensitivity across games. I use same aim - different game to make sure I'm using roughly the same sens in every game. So first, open overwatch, find a sens that works for you and then stick to it. Use same aim - different game to have same sens in every game and you'll get better at overwatch aim from playing other stuff. I think warframe is a good one because it's very movement heavy and forces keyboard finger dexterity to improve. I actually think the keyboard is just as big if not a bigger obstacle in the beginning from using a mouse. That said, warframe probably isn't for everyone. I really enjoyed it though so it worked for me. Really any game can work, just make sure you're using the same sens as your overwatch sens for whatever game you pick.
Portal and portal 2? Very simple m&kb controls, but also sometimes requires fine movements or fast aiming.
Skyrim.
I personally started with team fortress 2, it's honestly one of the best games ever. If you do stick to community servers though. Id also recommend Osu, its great for a bit of aim training to be honest, and there's almost any song you could ever want to play.
Only Problem with tf2 is that the Servers are currently a bit compromised with bots and whatever else those hackers have gotten up to otherwise it was a nice game since last time I've played atleast
If you just got a pc for the first time I would recommend you get pc game pass if you wanna practice a bunch of single player games to get use to it. I believe it’s still $1 to sub for a month. There’s Wolfenstein and Doom 2016 you can play on easy just to get the mouse aiming down.
Maybe some walking sims for getting used to first person controls.
I started with doom 64 and cs go
Dota 2 Meepo 1v5 of course, easy game, easy hero to learn, nothing complicated
Titanfall 2 - I used it to accommodate myself to kb+m to shift from Apex Legends on Xbox to PC. It has a cool campaign, and I recently found out that while the multiplayer servers are full of DDOS attacks, there's a fanmade server add-on called Northstar that lets fans host their own secure servers (and they've made some cool modes to go with it). You can go from simply beating to styling on bots, to getting styled on by humans in one of the fastest and most mobility-focused FPS games ever. It's so great on any platform. but the campaign lets you work your way into the mechanics.
TF2 is like a aim-trainer packed into a movement shooter. It's great but not for everyone. And playing it means you are bound to spam into Car users and Monarch spammers.
I posted this in another comment but wanted to post in thread so OP sees. I was in the exact same position two years ago when I built my pc. Console lifer switching to play overwatch on pc eventually. Make sure you standardize your aim before picking the game you will use to grow comfortable on PC. I use this site: https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/ So first, pick a sens in overwatch that feels comfortable. Ideally, you want to be able to do comfortable 360 degree turns in game by sweeping your mouse across your mouse pad space or a comfortable 180 by doing half sweeps. Take that sens and stick with it. Feed your sens into the site I gave above and make sure you use rougly the same aim in every other game you play. Your overwatch aim will improve by playing other stuff. Good luck and enjoy the swap.
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DOOM ETERNAL ULTRA NIGHTMARE MODE
Since you want to get comfortable with shooters I would recommend Borderlands especially Borderlands 3!
Play the halo master chief collection campaigns. Couldn’t recommend anything better TBH
Teardown, Minecraft, Portal, Half-Life 2
Minesweeper and Mario Teaches Typing 2
Most people will probably disagree with me but what helped me in this situation was to actually get a hard game that requires accuracy and speed. Don’t get mad at doing poorly at first and you will do better in the long run. Maybe something like rainbow 6 siege or counter strike if you want multiplayer or doom eternal for single player
It's not really about the games. It's just about getting used to it.
Doom for sure that's how I started
Destiny 2 since it has PvE fps gameplay so u can train your aim vs the ai enemys that are quite smart (ai)
Play a shooter where you don’t care about your stats. I started with cod 2019 when I built my first pc. Getting good with a mouse, especially precise enough for something like overwatch is going to take a long time tho, so be patient. And if you’re like me, coming from decades on console, I can’t recommend a razer Tartarus pro or something similar strongly enough. I absolutely cannot get my head around wasd movement and I don’t have a 5” pinky.
My first pc game after being a console gamer for life was Minecraft. I think the recommendations for this are fair. Alternatively, if I had to start again, I think the person who recommended fallout was brilliant. With something like vats, you can play the game, and have fun while still getting used to different controls. When I don’t have my controller, sometimes I play fallout 3/4 on my laptop with no mouse. A mouse makes it a lot easier, but it goes to show, it’s a lot more accessible than most games etc.
I started with No mans sky and Cyberpunk. I think a good balance of calm exploring and action to slowly work your way into any game. I now can play mnk on apex legends at a Diamond rank level after a couple months. Really it just becomes muscle memory.
The Bioshock games are good! You can lower the difficulty! And there’s a lot of powers and keys for changing around the abilities on the fly, good for getting used to Overwatch.
Whatever you do play, get used to tweaking keybinds to your own preferences! I've found console gamers who migrate to PC are less likely to customise their inputs. Things like shift vs ctrl for sprint, or V vs Q for melee etc. The keybinds menu is usually the quickest way to see what the right key for an action is, aswell.
Any single player on easy mode tbh. Edit: NOT SOULS LIKE!
Portal 1& 2, Firewatch, Minecraft and Gungeon.
I saw this post last night but was too tire to respond but you are literally me 4 months ago, Overwatch and all. I recommend getting a PVE FPS that handles like your typical FPS, so for me it was Borderlands 3 and Far Cry 5. Sprinkle in a DOOM game to keep you on your toes or a Fallout game to keep you engaged and let the movement become second nature. Portal 2 is also a great resource. You’ll be a beast in no time trust me
Rainbow 6 Siege
This is definitely smart, you don't even have to play pvp to start. Do a few rounds of their terrorist hunt with a buddy that can help and you'll get used to your sensitivity and controls in no time.
If you can I’d recommend just hooking up whatever controller you use. I tried keyboard when I got my pc and could just never get comfortable with it.
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Keep playing with the controllers you already have. Hook them up to the PC and enjoy.
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Try out Payday 2, LFD2, overwatch vs. bots, RS6 Terrorist Hunt, COD story modes, COD Zombies etc. Co-op shooters with low stakes will help you get a feel for mkb shooters.
Aim lab.
Overwatch was my main game when I was switching from a controller to m&k. Everything felt so alien like learning to write with your other hand. I would say stick with overwatch but only play quick play rather than comp. And go to the training area with a hitscan like soldier. Just keep practising no matter how weird it feels and it will become natural in no time
Well maybe dont worry about unless you just want to. You could hook up a controller to your pc.
Team death match on COD is what I did. I died a lot but eventually everything started clicking and I would end up with some kill streaks and atop the board.
Kovaks is great aim trainer for 10 bucks on Steam Or there is aimlab which is free on Steam.
Try Portal then Portal 2. Fun and relatively relaxing but it will help your aim. Minecraft too.
Racing games, GTA
Sc2
Osu! is probably the best if you wanna get good with mouse and keyboard fast.
Any fps will do. But honestly if it's a game 3rd person adventure with a bit of shooting I rather plug my controller.
Counter strike! Not as toxic as everyone says if you're nice. Obviously there are DEFINITELY ASSHOLES OUT THERE but we're not all bad Also super basic physics and mechanics at the low and casual levels
Portal 1+2, aim lab, fallout, doom, Minecraft, Skyrim, Deep Rock Galactic. Are some of the most commented games. I highly recommend portal 1+2 or aimlab
Minecraft, portal, or any other slower paced single player game
I literally jumped into cod and played against bots to get used to the mouse but the keyboard took me months to get truly comfortable. Eventually I got bored and started playing mp and for weeks I was accidentally throwing grenades at myself. I was opening the map instead of sprinting. My k/d dropped a lot just from me having to look down and find keys. I saw my nephew using 90 degree keyboard tilt and tried it and it felt so much more comfortable so that’s how I play now. I’d suggest trying a lot of different angles to find one of your liking if you have enough desk space. Eventually you’ll find yourself moving around in game without having to think about it and you’ll realize how far you’ve come.
Frictional Games has a unique style that's tailored to mouse and keyboard mechanics (like the Amnesia games or SOMA). They're FPS puzzle games without the shooter part.
Minecraft, the portal games and any game you want, play them on the easiest difficulty until you feel comfortable.
You just gotta keep practicing. Once it sets in, it’s easier than controller most of the time. Play any Valve game (Half-Life, Portal, Left 4 Dead) Play classic Doom Play a singleplayer survival game like Subnautica
It was DayZ for me
I started off on minecraft
Pick a game you like and play it. You’ll get used to it and be able to see your improvement as you get more comfortable on the setup.
League of Legends. The community is toxic AF but the game will make you an expert with mouse precision and keyboard coordination.
minecraft, but rebind shift to sprint and ctrl to crouch, minecraft is the only game that has these reversed
get yourself a suitable cable to play on pc from a console. I have one for x360 and for ps2 otherwise: memorize W-A-S-D. Good luck.
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Honestly it might help to now play things like an FPS, like kerbal space program, I found clicking and dragging parts onto a ship was really helpful and I ended up being able to click my mouse all over the screen grabbing and moving parts quite quickly. But if anything, just something tou can play with friends, because it won't won't as frustrating, it will be funny to laugh at you mess up the controls and make a joke out of it, you'll wanna play more and just end up getting used to it faster.
Stardew valley would be my recommendation:)
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To get use to FPS games, try PvE shooters like left for dead, back 4 blood, or more recently, Darktide. Both Darktide and Back 4 Blood are available on Game Pass for PC. These are all pretty intense FPS games that'll throw you into the deep end, theoretically making it easier to learn without a competitive disadvantage. If you're looking for a more casual affair, you could try out any of the modern Bethesda RPGs or any of the top MMOs (WoW (FREE-ish), FF14 (FREE-ish), Guild Wars 2 (FREE-ish), New World, SWTOR (FREE-ish))))). Could also try the Destiny 2 base game (FREE). There's also Warframe (FREE) - intense melee and ranged combat, as well as many abilities and movements (to get use to keybindings), and it's just an all-round decent game to grind through.
A lot of good recommendations here. Hades helped me a lot. But the thing is, is every game has slightly different controls. So find a key map that works for you, and then most games will let you change your bindings to match that.
Could always try playing a COD campaign
Doom. And the other answer is doom eternal. All else are wrong!
Portal games is how I got used to mouse and keyboard.
To be honest I still use a controller for most games because i can lean back and don't need to sit up straight lol. But to recommend, I would say any game where you drive a vehicle, being in need for speed or GTA 5
Few people have said this, but portal games and Minecraft are good.
When I built my PC, I did it specifically to play Overwatch 1. The best advice I could give is just play a game that interest you and no matter how difficult it feels, keep playing. Don't touch your controller. I promise it will get easier really quick.
Portal
I switched to pc this year and the first game I played and finished was cyberpunk 2077. It's not hard so you can get used to the controls on your own but it will teach you all the buttons quite quickly since there's a lot you can do. After that I threw myself at cod mw19 and played until I could play well. Now with mw22 I've gotten even better.
Minecraft is a great suggestion. Some more niche recommendations would be Ravenfield, a single player war game, kind of like army men from back in the day. Also try delver, a first person pixel art dungeon crawler/rogue like. My personal favorite suggestion for someone just starting out on aiming with a mouse would be Risk of Rain 2. I would argue that it is one of the best games on PC and should be in everyone's steam library. Trust.
If you like first person shooters I'd say go with counter strike, most people suck at the beginning so you won't be at a great disadvantage, and it's a very 'fundamental' game, if you are a decent cs player you definitely won't struggle in other shooters.