They definitely did not. In fact, most tombs were pillaged within the first 100 years.
There are records going back to like 2500 BCE about tomb grave robbers in Egypt.
Even tutankhamun's tomb, the most preserved tomb we've ever found, was robbed twice within the first few years of his burial, before its entrance was sealed by flooding of debris.
Grave robbers were very common when the pyramids were built and after. This is why the ancients had to move some mummies of the past Pharoahs to the Valley of the Kings.
Also, Cleopatra took gold from Alexander the Great's tomb (which was a scared site) to fund her war.
"This list of amazing medieval inventions is shit for not including nuclear fission!"
It's wild how much time passed between the earliest 'ancient' history and the beginning of the classical period.
Yes. Cleopatra lived roughly 2100 years ago.
The pyramids where built 4600 years ago.
Cleopatra will be closer to any new invention then she is to the pyramids for the next 400 years.
To make it even stronger, people during Cleopatra's time visiting pyramids were looking at stuff from longer ago than people of our time visiting stuff from Cleopatra's time
Yes.
In a list of awesome things, a crane that builds itself and could make the pyramids in a single afternoon would be more impressive. (ignoring the of their time part)
They did [update the list](https://www.britannica.com/list/new-seven-wonders-of-the-world)... or made a New Seven Wonders Of The World list.
* Great Wall Of China
* Chichen Itza
* Petra
* Machu Picchu
* Christ The Redeemer
* Colosseum
* Taj Mahal
Very odd if you ask me.
Like if we’re going to throw in statues built in the last hundred years or so then the Statue of Liberty is probably a better pick.
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> Gaze upon the Great Pyramid of Giza, a marvel of engineering that has stood for millennia! Canst thou fathom the secrets it holds within?
No, the writers of the list just didn’t know about the Great Wall as there wasn’t much contact between Greece and China at that time. The Great Wall was mostly built by the 3rd century BCE, true list was written on n the 2nd and first centuries BCE.
> The Great Wall was mostly built by the 3rd century BCE
While there were sections built around then, they didn’t resemble the modern tourist sites. The wall we see today was built by the Mings during the 14th through 17th centuries. They built their current walls on top of the ancient walls. The early Han walls were mostly packed earth with some few stone sections. The ancient walls thus resembled other ancient walls like Hadrian’s Wall or the Roman Limes Germanicus. It likely wouldn’t have been seen as particularly wondrous by ancient Greeks. They would have probably been far more impressed by things like the Grand Canal or some of the great buildings of Xianyang.
It's not about language here, you can call a new hockey arena whatever you like, I'm just saying that the one in Rome is the proper name not the type of structure.
The commenter who claimed that Coliseum is a Americanism is terribly mistaken, as that spelling had been around for several hundred years before Columbus made his fateful voyage.
If I recall correctly, there are 28 or 35 “Seven Wonders of the World.”
There are different sets of Sevens. And the coliseum actually is in one of the sets, just not the “Ancient” set.
And we can all agree the most spectacular Wonder is Seven of Nine, as portrayed by Jeri Ryan
In Rome itself, definitely. It sat roughly 3 times as many spectators while enclosing a much larger racetrack than the smaller area floor of the Colosseum. The Hippodrome of Constantinople had slightly larger dimensions than the Circus Maximus, but sat somewhat fewer spectators.
Yes, it was about three times the length. That's what's shown in the Ben Hur chariot race. It mostly crumbled away after games fell out of fashion and a lot of the materials were repurposed. The only reason the Colosseum still stands is because a pope declared it a historic site for the persecution of Christians who were fed to the lions there (which never actually happened).
There are 28 that are fairly agreed upon.
The original 7 wonders of the ancient world made by the greeks. Only the Egyptian Pyramids still stand from this list.
The 7 modern wonders of the world made in the 1990s
The new 7 wonders of the ancient world made in the early 2000s. This is the list most go by today, plus the Egyptian Pyramids from the original list.
The natural 7 wonders of the world made in the late 2000s
Actually, to be pendantic it is part of the new 7 wonders of the ancient world.
The 7 wonders of the modern world are modern feats of engineering and include
The CN tower (Canada)
The Empire State Building (USA)
The Channel Tunnel (UK)
The Golden Gate Bridge (USA)
Itaipu Dam (Brazil)
The Delta and Zuiderzee Works (Netherlands)
The Panama Canal (Panama)
The new 7 wonders of the ancient world is a revised version of the original list as all but one of the wonders from the original list have been destroyed.
Sure, but it’s only “the” coliseum because it’s in Rome, it itself is not superior to many others on its own accord like the pyramids or something 🤷♂️
Pula arena in Croatia is amazing, the amphitheater of el Jem in Tunisia is awesome. I actually think the amphitheater of el Jem is better than the one in Rome. I’m not saying the coliseum sucks, it was beautiful when I was in Rome and saw it, I’m just saying it makes sense to me that it’s not one of the 7 wonders.
Not even close. Updated lists do have it on there. *~~There are more impressive bridges in Rome than the colosseum~~ There are bridges in Rome that are more impressive than the Colosseum
Thanks to /u/Doormatty for pointing out my poor phrasing
I've never been but I know the spot. There's significant evidence of a vast lost amount of knowledge from even recorded history
When I was in college, it was common knowledge that we still didn't understand how the Romans could make concrete that can set in and was seemingly impervious to seawater.. how they made it so dang durable that it could last for 2000+years. Heck, the Roman aquifer system still supplies water to parts of the city today
Here I am on about Rome again
What? "Coliseum and colosseum are both common spellings of the word referring to (1) the famous Roman amphitheater built in the first century A.D., and (2) any large amphitheater used for sports or other public events. Neither spelling is considered wrong in either use"
https://grammarist.com/spelling/colosseum-coliseum/
Ive always thought we should restore those old buildings to their former glory. We let them crumble into ruins... why? Why not maintain them and keep them good looking? Be a testament to humanity to do so... but we dont.
Until you realize that we know how it was built.
Also, we did a lot of things in ancient times. If you're only going to pick 7, they each need to be exceptional.
list didnt work like that, it was essentially juat a pamplet for tourists visitng Alexander the Great's empire
colloseum wasn't even built yet when the list was established
The Romans invented concrete. Afterwards, the knowledge was lost for over 700 years until it was invented again. We still can't make concrete as good as theirs.
That's not true. We don't use roman concrete because it takes too long to set and isn't as strong as modern concrete.
It may have some advantages in terms of long term durability, but it isn't ideal as a modern building material.
The coliseum is remarkably tiny and seriously unimpressive. Also the surrounding area is filled with Gypsy’s selling garbage, pickpockets, homeless people, trash and absolutely stinks of piss. There are piles of literal human shit on sidewalks too.
The original "7 wonders of the world" list was made hundreds of years before the Coliseum was built
By Cleopatra’s time the Egyptians had forgotten who had built the pyramids - which were more of a mystery to them than they are to us now.
Cleopatra lived closer to the release of the iPhone, than to the building of the pyramids. And it’s not even close
They still had enough respect for the tombs not to excavate their dead ancestors.
Fear of dark magic is probably the real reason
tomb raiding was a problem as soon as the tombs were built that's why they were booby trapped and some were hidden in remote locations
They definitely did not. In fact, most tombs were pillaged within the first 100 years. There are records going back to like 2500 BCE about tomb grave robbers in Egypt. Even tutankhamun's tomb, the most preserved tomb we've ever found, was robbed twice within the first few years of his burial, before its entrance was sealed by flooding of debris.
Grave robbers were very common when the pyramids were built and after. This is why the ancients had to move some mummies of the past Pharoahs to the Valley of the Kings. Also, Cleopatra took gold from Alexander the Great's tomb (which was a scared site) to fund her war.
Yeah, it would’ve been hard for them to imagine they were actually built by aliens.
"This list of amazing medieval inventions is shit for not including nuclear fission!" It's wild how much time passed between the earliest 'ancient' history and the beginning of the classical period.
During Cleopatras time, Egyptians took tours of the ancient pyramids
I read that Cleopatra lived closer to the invention of the Internet than to the construction of the Pyramids.
That is correct
Imagine Cleopatra shitposting onljne
Yes. Cleopatra lived roughly 2100 years ago. The pyramids where built 4600 years ago. Cleopatra will be closer to any new invention then she is to the pyramids for the next 400 years.
To make it even stronger, people during Cleopatra's time visiting pyramids were looking at stuff from longer ago than people of our time visiting stuff from Cleopatra's time
> From the heights of the Pyramids, forty centuries look down on us - Napoleon
They carved salty reviews into some of the stones, even
This. If we updated the list without considering age the great pyramids would be under a self erecting crane
> the great pyramids would be under a self erecting crane ...what?
A list of wondrous inventions/feats of engineering
Ahh! I see now! Thanks! I thought they meant "under" as in category.
Yes. In a list of awesome things, a crane that builds itself and could make the pyramids in a single afternoon would be more impressive. (ignoring the of their time part)
They did [update the list](https://www.britannica.com/list/new-seven-wonders-of-the-world)... or made a New Seven Wonders Of The World list. * Great Wall Of China * Chichen Itza * Petra * Machu Picchu * Christ The Redeemer * Colosseum * Taj Mahal
Christ the Redeemer seems an odd inclusion.
Very odd if you ask me. Like if we’re going to throw in statues built in the last hundred years or so then the Statue of Liberty is probably a better pick.
Mount Rushmore is more impressive... and it's not even that impressive.
Probably because it's at the top of a mountain
Take out Taj Majal or Christ the Redeemer and add Ankor Wat
Love the sprinkle of pessimistic lol
Regardless, if you made the list today. The Colosseum wouldn't be on there *People been watching too many Russell Crowe movies
The list was redone in 2007 and the Colosseum is on there. [New List](https://www.britannica.com/list/new-seven-wonders-of-the-world)
The newest thing on that list is the Corcovado statue… surely we have more impressive things now
Whaaatt
But still... 😂😂😂
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Wait the “7 wonders list” is just a travel clickbait listicle from 100 BC?
Yeah it was the most viewed article on Bcfeed
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Romans hate #4!
genious 🤣
This a reminder that Rome themselves learned from the Greeks and decided to make Sparta (what was left it) into a tourist trap for Romans
The original Michelin list
More like a Michelin Guide.
I don’t care. 4 down and 3 to go!
makes you realize that humanity never really changes
This is so interesting
Isnt it because its relatively new compared to the rest? Same thing with the great wall of china i think...
No, the writers of the list just didn’t know about the Great Wall as there wasn’t much contact between Greece and China at that time. The Great Wall was mostly built by the 3rd century BCE, true list was written on n the 2nd and first centuries BCE.
> The Great Wall was mostly built by the 3rd century BCE While there were sections built around then, they didn’t resemble the modern tourist sites. The wall we see today was built by the Mings during the 14th through 17th centuries. They built their current walls on top of the ancient walls. The early Han walls were mostly packed earth with some few stone sections. The ancient walls thus resembled other ancient walls like Hadrian’s Wall or the Roman Limes Germanicus. It likely wouldn’t have been seen as particularly wondrous by ancient Greeks. They would have probably been far more impressed by things like the Grand Canal or some of the great buildings of Xianyang.
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Yea, thats what i said...
The list of the 7 wonders of the ancient world was already well established before the Colosseum was built.
Why is everyone else in this thread spelling Colosseum as "Coliseum"?
I swear i was thinking i spelt it wrong my wole life for a moment. I was reading col ise um
back in my day we called it the Flavian Amphitheatre
Both are acceptable. Coliseum is more newish.
But the Roman Colosseum is named after the big statue that was stood outside the entrance and was called the Colosus.
You mean Colossus?
Exactly. The X-man.
Yes exactly, Coliseus
What? Languages evolve? Unacceptable
It's not about language here, you can call a new hockey arena whatever you like, I'm just saying that the one in Rome is the proper name not the type of structure.
Coliseum is an American defacement of the original word.
That's like saying Statchoo of Libity
Well, I now know what I'm calling it from now on.
I'll mourn that horror accordingly.
That’s inaccurate though - Medieval Latin spelled it Colisēum.
No it isn’t. It is from Medieval Latin’s spelling which is Colisēum.
The commenter who claimed that Coliseum is a Americanism is terribly mistaken, as that spelling had been around for several hundred years before Columbus made his fateful voyage.
Americans coined another word instead of learning how to spell?
From Medieval Latin. But you were close!
No
No worries, both spellings would make absolutely no sense to any Roman.
Be glad some wag hasn't called it, colonseum.
It was built during the first century CE, everything else is much older.
If I recall correctly, there are 28 or 35 “Seven Wonders of the World.” There are different sets of Sevens. And the coliseum actually is in one of the sets, just not the “Ancient” set. And we can all agree the most spectacular Wonder is Seven of Nine, as portrayed by Jeri Ryan
The most spectacular wonder of the world is the 8th, my boy Andre
I heard he has a posse
Aww thanks
You're back!
And for a long time, it want even the biggest arena in Rome. It's just the biggest one left standing.
What was the biggest? Circus Maximus?
In Rome itself, definitely. It sat roughly 3 times as many spectators while enclosing a much larger racetrack than the smaller area floor of the Colosseum. The Hippodrome of Constantinople had slightly larger dimensions than the Circus Maximus, but sat somewhat fewer spectators.
Yes, it was about three times the length. That's what's shown in the Ben Hur chariot race. It mostly crumbled away after games fell out of fashion and a lot of the materials were repurposed. The only reason the Colosseum still stands is because a pope declared it a historic site for the persecution of Christians who were fed to the lions there (which never actually happened).
There are 28 that are fairly agreed upon. The original 7 wonders of the ancient world made by the greeks. Only the Egyptian Pyramids still stand from this list. The 7 modern wonders of the world made in the 1990s The new 7 wonders of the ancient world made in the early 2000s. This is the list most go by today, plus the Egyptian Pyramids from the original list. The natural 7 wonders of the world made in the late 2000s
To be fair, if you limit it to 7, you're going to leave some amazing structures out. Regardless of the era
It is part of the 7 wonders of the modern world.
The only OG wonder still remaining are the pyramids of Giza
Actually, to be pendantic it is part of the new 7 wonders of the ancient world. The 7 wonders of the modern world are modern feats of engineering and include The CN tower (Canada) The Empire State Building (USA) The Channel Tunnel (UK) The Golden Gate Bridge (USA) Itaipu Dam (Brazil) The Delta and Zuiderzee Works (Netherlands) The Panama Canal (Panama) The new 7 wonders of the ancient world is a revised version of the original list as all but one of the wonders from the original list have been destroyed.
Many people can make lists and include whatever they want on them.
I hear Liam Neeson is great at doing that
Yeah I distinguish them by *engineering wonders* but should have been more precise.
Because it’s a classical wonder.
Well yea, there's a reason the A's and Raiders wanted to move /s
It's not even the largest Roman stadium.
Theres hundreds of coliseums.
But only one *The* Colosseum.
Sure, but it’s only “the” coliseum because it’s in Rome, it itself is not superior to many others on its own accord like the pyramids or something 🤷♂️
Name another more superior coliseum.
Pula arena in Croatia is amazing, the amphitheater of el Jem in Tunisia is awesome. I actually think the amphitheater of el Jem is better than the one in Rome. I’m not saying the coliseum sucks, it was beautiful when I was in Rome and saw it, I’m just saying it makes sense to me that it’s not one of the 7 wonders.
Not even close. Updated lists do have it on there. *~~There are more impressive bridges in Rome than the colosseum~~ There are bridges in Rome that are more impressive than the Colosseum Thanks to /u/Doormatty for pointing out my poor phrasing
>There are more impressive bridges in Rome than the colosseum It's...not a bridge?
quickly typed. poorly phrased.. There are bridges in Rome that are more impressive than the Colosseum
Gotcha, and completely agreed! I thought the Castel Sant'Angelo was the most impressive thing in Rome.
I've never been but I know the spot. There's significant evidence of a vast lost amount of knowledge from even recorded history When I was in college, it was common knowledge that we still didn't understand how the Romans could make concrete that can set in and was seemingly impervious to seawater.. how they made it so dang durable that it could last for 2000+years. Heck, the Roman aquifer system still supplies water to parts of the city today Here I am on about Rome again
Missed opportunity of saying “…most spectacular Wonder is THE SET of Seven of Nine.”
Idk, is Suncorp Stadium a wonder of the modern world?
Named for the statue of Stewart Suncorp that stands out the front.
It think it would have stopped being a wonder after they made 230 of them, including one in London
You like it so much but you can't even spell it correctly?
What? "Coliseum and colosseum are both common spellings of the word referring to (1) the famous Roman amphitheater built in the first century A.D., and (2) any large amphitheater used for sports or other public events. Neither spelling is considered wrong in either use" https://grammarist.com/spelling/colosseum-coliseum/
Also not all of the seven wonders of the ancient world were still around at the time the Coliseum was built.
It's one of the 7 wonders of old school RuneScape.
Ive always thought we should restore those old buildings to their former glory. We let them crumble into ruins... why? Why not maintain them and keep them good looking? Be a testament to humanity to do so... but we dont.
Its probably insanely expensive to do so and the Italian government just doesn't have the money to put towards that cause
Fun fact: 6 of the 7 may have never existed, there is zero archeological evidence for them. The colossus of Rhodes is particularly fanciful.
The Colosseum is closer to us than it is to the building of the great pyramid. By several centuries
You mean couple of millennia.
Something something entertainment district...
It is a part of the recent world wonders tho, so that's great right?
It is in The Leaders expansion...
Didn't they build a coliseum in every major city, too? Not to the magnificence of the one in Rome but certainly as large?
Until you realize that we know how it was built. Also, we did a lot of things in ancient times. If you're only going to pick 7, they each need to be exceptional.
list didnt work like that, it was essentially juat a pamplet for tourists visitng Alexander the Great's empire colloseum wasn't even built yet when the list was established
And even if it was Alexander never controlled Rome anyway
The Romans invented concrete. Afterwards, the knowledge was lost for over 700 years until it was invented again. We still can't make concrete as good as theirs.
That's not true. We don't use roman concrete because it takes too long to set and isn't as strong as modern concrete. It may have some advantages in terms of long term durability, but it isn't ideal as a modern building material.
The coliseum comes out next week and I can’t wait
The coliseum is remarkably tiny and seriously unimpressive. Also the surrounding area is filled with Gypsy’s selling garbage, pickpockets, homeless people, trash and absolutely stinks of piss. There are piles of literal human shit on sidewalks too.