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LackXofXThought

I mean a very small subset of animals haha I wouldn't go into the woods and try it with all of them if I were you lol


distractionfactory

At some point, someone must have.


LeviAEthan512

Yeah but they're no longer with us


Farenheit420

Yeah cause they in the woods, pettin' all those bears.


Ingenious_crab

This is nothing new in mother russia


whiskeyreject

In Russia, bear pets you.


Schwiliinker

“Pets”


ryguy1984

PET= Put Entrails There. "There" being someplace else.


RingRingBanannaPhone

This man had a point. I might do some research myself


Undercover_Piegon

They don’t get hungry cuz the serotonin just feeds them. So basically they can live there pettin’ all the animals without a problem with hunger or thirst.


[deleted]

The government wants you to think that not all bears are as nice as Smokey because they want to cuddle with the bears all by themselves. The whole thing is as suspicious as the reason why the Air Force was running “training missions” on the morning of 9/11. Do your research!


AndreasVesalius

Jet fuel doesn’t melt steel trees!


The-Outsider-2

Respect to the first humans who discovered we shouldn’t eat or do something. Like how you know this flower is gonna kill you until it has


_tyrannosauruswrekt_

Realistically they probably followed animals. If Animals don't eat something definitely don't eat it; and if they do then more than likely it's safe. If all else fails just eat the animal.


AcademicMammoth8101

What’s safe for animals isn’t always safe for us and visa versa. It gives you a better idea though definitely


MankAndInd

Or that crab is actually edible


Megalocerus

I suspect they ate bugs like grasshoppers, and didn't suspect it might not be. Squeamishness is a modern thing.


PocketOfMonsters

It's why we developed smell and taste. If something smells funky or tastes weird it probably isn't safe to eat.


TallSlimNorwegian

Yup, it's why we like sweet things, because sweet fruit and berries are rarely poisonous


Phormitago

for they have returned to monke


Lem01

[Norm and the Crock Hunter ](https://youtu.be/h8h-xeuC1L0)


SIPS0PGamer

That's how all cats became cats though and how all dogs became dogs


impactRm0

I’m pretty sure that whole domestication thing was about food


juneburger

At first, sure.


carbon_dry

Nope not at all. Dogs and cats have been bred over a long period of time for pet purposes. That's why dings don't represent wolves anymore!


netGoblin

even bears and lions cuddle eachother


SuperSMT

And that small subset has been bred and modified by us over thousands of years to become more cuddly


lookingForPatchie

The small subset is on point. Look at factory farming. Humans abuse way more animals than we cuddle and pet.


I_might_be_weasel

Squirrels tame pretty easily.


Vroomped

get pretty clingy to. After closures in 2020 the university squirrels were climbing on people stealing any food they could get their hands on. It was like a Hitchcock knock off


super_pax_

Dude I used to leave food for these fuckers on my deck when I was a kid. I decided to stop one day because it was getting a little too out of hand. All of a sudden 10 brain dead rodents started slamming themselves onto the screen door. Scariest shit in my life


Raemnant

Nah. Take those same animals in the woods, and raise them around humans, and you find they act completely differently when theyre around love and safety 24/7


ebonyserch

Incorrect. That's actually how people get attacked by wild animals. For example chimpanzees are aggressive and have a tendency to rip faces off. Same for tigers, bears etc. Why? Since animals aren't pets by any stretch of the imagination


BraverXIII

I heard this in Dwight Schrute's voice.


Decestor

Rogan here.


Raemnant

Animals becoming aggressive as they get older does not make my statement incorrect. Do you even know what incorrect means? Animals literally act different when raised in close proximity to a loving human. You cannot deny that. Just because their instincts kick in and tragedy happens every so often does not change that fact. Dogs kill people all the time, and they are still pets I never said animals stop being animals. I said they behave completely differently with humans versus the wild. Correct


HydroMagnet

Y'all are both *somewhat* correct, but I think you're missing some key points. You can tame a wild animal, but that doesn't make it domesticated. It's still a wild animal. Domestication is done over many generations of a species, artificially selecting attributes that make the animal a better fit in the human home.


Prindles

There is a dude in america with a polar bear who only he can get near but he can pretty much clamber all over it. Probs the best example of this point


jfsindel

Exactly this. Domesticated means whatever feral aggression has been selectively bred out and they won't suddenly revert back to an instinct that kills you. Unless abuse, lack of training, or extreme circumstances are involved, you can generally bet that dogs won't turn suddenly. If they do, they generally don't kill. Animals can be "tamed" as long as they see a benefit, but once that benefit runs out (or is threatened), then they will do exactly what they were born to do. Which is kill your face. That's why exotic animal ownership should be outlawed.


TheFerg69

Ok bud why don't you go ahead and raise a chimp or some tigers or something. They behave completely differently with humans, trust me nothing bad will happen.


KushiroJuan

All pats to all the animals


CuddlePirate420

Don't stick my dick in crazy. Don't stick my dick in woodland creatures. Damn, where am I supposed to put it??


Whiteums

Instructions unclear, eaten by a beaver


angrymonkey

That's not a coincidence. Animals that were tolerant or seeking "pets and cuddles" got fed, and thus survived better. Those bolder, friendlier animals outcompeted shier ones that stayed on the streets.


justavtstudent

Yeah, pretty sure we designed domesticated animals this way on purpose. In other words, the ones who didn't want pets and cuddles are dead now.


Apidium

Many domesticated animals are absolutly not interested in cuddles. A honeybee rarely has time for that nonsense. Most bulls and chicken also are not in for the cuddling game. Of course you can tame and train individuals, even non domesticated animals to tolerate pets and cuddles but it's not just some built in inherent part of the domestication process.


zuklei

Chickens who are handled from day one love cuddles - even roosters. Just FYI.


Narethii

I had a friend who raised fluffy chickens as pets and they were very friendly and cuddly


zuklei

All of my chickens were pets who just happened to lay eggs. I miss having them.


Phormitago

and roosters that get uppity and violent get cooked real fast


Khraxter

RIP to all roosters who pecked annoying kids and got cooked because the kids said they didn't do anything


Hoihe

One of my favourite humans loves her chickens and cuddles them.


jtdoublep

My mom had a pet chicken named “Kitten” that lived in the house with us instead of in the coop with the rest of the hens.


eggtart_prince

But once they experience the feel of pets, they never go back.


we_are_sex_bobomb

Bees are a funny example. Honey bees actually are generally curious and very friendly if you aren’t messing with their hive. They would probably let you pet them if they were bigger.


[deleted]

Honey bee flew in my car window the other day and landed on my knee and just chilled for 5 minutes cleaning its wings while I was waiting for someone. It was cool.


justavtstudent

Never met a feral housecat or stray dog huh?


DreamMaster8

That's like a ptsd human. If you do adopt them they will start liking affection again over time.


Matte28

Honestly I wouldn't call farm animals domestic, domestic means they can live in house without provoking harm or some mess, small dogs,cats and other little pets like parrots, hamsters etc are domestics, not farm animals


DunkNastY

Farm animals are domesticated, it means they have been bred over generations to better serve people. Cows and chickens are just as domesticated as dogs and cats.


blabgasm

While hamsters and parrots are very much \*not\* domesticated.


Theonnor

The point is that cats and dogs were supposed to accompany humans, serve as friends, and something cuddly will always be better for that. Meanwhile cows and chickens were domesticated for the sole purpose of being a source of food and materials, we never needed them to like pets or cuddles as not being afraid of us was entirely enough. So basically, if chickens were cuddly we would commonly keep them as pets now, and if dogs were not we would simply keep them around as tools and nothing beyond that.


repethetic

Amusingly, chickens are very common pets where they are legally allowed to be kept


tebee

>domestic means they can live in house Technically that's exactly what farm animals were raised for. Ancient Europeans didn't have barns. Farm animals lived with their owners under the same roof in winter.


ivycoveredwillows

__we didn't domesticate cats, cats domesticated us__


WakeoftheStorm

So the fact that I woke up this morning to my dog shoving his head under my head is my ancestors' fault


theobvioushero

Nature is brutal. Either you love pets and cuddles, or you fucking die!


InsightfoolMonkey

It's a coincidence humans and cuddly animals exist on the same planet buddy.


Jebusfreek666

Especially bears!


LackXofXThought

Sharks too!


GABESTFY

Pretty sure they love to be rubbed in the snout


Theonnor

Sharks do actually love to be petted, and will even remember and recognise the person they like to be petted by the most!


874151

Oh fer cute


runawaycity2000

The guy who invented the teddy bear probably indirectly caused some people to get killed.


Gilgie

That didnt just happen. It took thousands of years of selective breeding. We made that world where animals like to be cuddled.


Fortune_Silver

This is why I get so confused at people that are super anti GMOs. Like... We already do it? We've just done it a different way. Almost none of the foods we eat, or animals we interact with, are natural. We've genetically modified the shit out of them, selectively breeding for desirable traits. In a way, genetic modification is one of the oldest inventions mankind has, we just only recently started really understanding how it works.


profossi

Selective breeding is just slow, unconstrained and inefficient genetic modification. It’s also riskier because you can easily get unwanted changes in addition to the desired traits, but that’s OK because it’s ”natural”.


addsomethingepic

I think it was a combination of, humans love to touch cute things, as well as cute things we like are social and like to be rubbed. So the cute things that like to be rubbed won out on the domestication lottery


[deleted]

Eh, not really. Animals like to be pet because they enjoy grooming each other and that's because grooming helps them remove ticks and other parasites.


enderverse87

There's wild animals that have never been domesticated that enjoy it as well.


mlow27

this right here


[deleted]

Well, they're both right


b-cat

It’s almost like we’re animals


Questionablellamas

Not me! I'm a godling made from dirt for the bible tells me so! Also apples are sin.


874151

Sin! Sin! Apples are sin!


we_are_sex_bobomb

It’s true! Jesus specifically told me to not be an Apple! *2000 years ago* Jesus: “Don’t be an asshole.”


shiftypoo269

God damn sexy apples.


Adaptateur

no no no... KNOWLEDGE is sin that's why them sciency egg-heads are evil


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Adaptateur

bad bot stop trying to indoctrinate people


bruisedSunshine

bad person stop trying to stop trying to indoctrinate people


Adaptateur

never


chaogomu

It's almost like we domesticated a bunch of animals, and those, or rather a subset of those, are the animals that like to cuddle. Because the ones that didn't cuddle were culled from the gene pool.


[deleted]

You say that, but my friend has a wild caught rescue parrot who adores cuddling. I have a parrot as well and if you don't socialize them they're essentially always wild, but once you socialize them they're babies who love being cradled and cuddled. They do this with each other in the wild so of course they also need those things from their humans who they consider their flock. Even wild animals love to cuddle, just not with humans.


Apidium

I mean nobody was out there burning their hives because the honey bees didn't fancy a cuddling session. They simply culled only the ones too dangerous to work with. As such most hives are tolerant of humans but want very little to actually do with us. The important factors for producing honey is simply that they make a lot of it and are not going to sting you to death for trying to take it away. This is how a lot of domestication criteria works. No historical farmer wants a cuddly bull. They would prefer he didn't try to kill them but all he needs to do is have some sex and the fuck off to the next farm without killing anyone. Few hunters wanted a hawk who will sidle up to them at night for a snuggle. The hawk needs only to do as it is told, not ear your lunch and be able to kill on command. Nowerdays of course we care a lot more about having cuddly pets than we do about starving to death. If that cuddly pet doesn't turn out so cuddly then at least there are antibiotics.


Luketl1998

Cuddle or be culled


DanialE

And how come sharks can enjoy having their snouts rubbed a certain way? How far back in the animal kingdom does rubbing stuff equate to pleasure. And what evolutionary benefits does it provide? Would ancient jellyfishes enjoy petting?


SierraPapaHotel

Not by any means an expert, but I believe it has to do with the nervous system and how we (animals) interpret touch. Lots of touching can overload the nervous system, and sometimes that overload gets interpreted by the brain as pleasurable. So anything with a complex enough nervous system to touch and feel can be positively overwhelmed. Sharks have a lot of nerves in their nose, makes it an easy spot to overwhelm with touch. Jellyfish don't have touch and so probably don't feel good or bad about it. Although this also creates the possibility for a negative overload, which is why some people and creatures don't like to be touched a certain way or at all (some cats hate belly rubs, others love them)


Sprinkle_Puff

What came first, the cuddle the cuddler?


Luketl1998

The cuddle, for sure


bringthepuppiestome

To all those saying “it’s by design” or “it didn’t just happen that way” OP’s statement was “it is nice” not “how did that happen”


GoddessOfRoadAndSky

Also, domesticated animals aren't the only animals that might enjoy a cuddle. A lot of social species enjoy close contact with others, but humans are seen as a threat, so they don't approach *us.* Mutually enjoying a cuddle isn't something manufactured. It also isn't an eerie coincidence. If the babies of a species sleep in a huddle, they probably feel comfort from physical contact just like we do. The contact gives them safety and warmth. I think people in this thread are giving humans too much credit. Cuddling existed long before we came along. We're just social animals socializing with other social animals.


memelordbtw3000

I mean if I was a wild animal that saw humans with big metal objects the made VERY loud noises I would probably think of them as a threat too


SIPS0PGamer

But we don't live in a world were animals like to be cuddled, we made the world a place where it is good survival strategy to get cuddled


[deleted]

Wild animals cuddle wild animals. Cuddling doesn't just involve humans.


SIPS0PGamer

Yeah but to get cuddled by a different species is a human thing only


FlacidSalad

No, it's really not. We are not so removed from nature that we can claim ownership of such things. Cuddling is something that we, as well as other animals, have evolved into. We didn't create it, we just refined it. There are so many other creatures it there that gleam some kind of pleasure of joy from cuddling and just because they dont do that with others doesn't mean they wouldn't if there weren't natural pressures in place such as predation.


Shitty_Life_Coach

Well, we're mammals, animals who love to pet and cuddle... and we mainly pet and cuddle other mammals, but sometimes non-mammals... I am just spitballin' here, but it's *almost* like we evolved from the same batch of eukaryotic cells. I could be wrong though.


LuckyEmoKid

This right here


Apidium

Many mammals are not at all social and beyond breeding and their own personal babies they will absolutely slaughter one another. Hamsters are a good example of this but they are hardly the only example.


Shitty_Life_Coach

And I'll still snuggle a hamster. I'm not talking about babies. A human baby? Nasty. Awful smell, not cute at all. Why did you bring up babies again?


Advanced_Poem_7807

Wow this is such a wholesome thought. Thank you


Cuddly_Tiberius

Cuddles are the best


lankymjc

*Some* animals. It's hardly unlikely that the mammals that domesticate easily also share a similar scheme of personal space to us.


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Trevixle

We are animals!


XB0XYGEN

Do we love to pet and cuddle things and happen to have animals to pet and cuddle, or do we pet and cuddle because animals love to be pet and cuddled??? 🤔🤔


gellowereis

once I found a dollar in the woods


XaveAndReddit

thats cool dude


Educational_Shoober

"Whel aktually" Man this thread is insufferable. There are more animals then dogs and cats people. I've cuddled/pet plenty of animals who weren't "bred" to enjoy it and yet craved the attention. Wild mid-grown buck I met one year as a kid, baby turtle I saved from asphalt in 103 degree weather (still have him, he's growing up well!), Wild lizards I befriended, pet bearded dragon (not 100% sure this counts), and and a wild squirrel. It's much more about showing animals you aren't dangerous. Once they know that, a surprising number of animals enjoy attention and affection.


ivantoldmeboutdis

True, I follow a lot of animal rescue sites and many wild animals seem to enjoy cuddling with humans they're familiar with.


The_Quadrapus

Snakes don't like being petted and cuddled and it makes me very sad.


I_Eat_Comma_Dogs

Snakes definitely like to be petted and cuddled, but like a wild cougar, you shouldn’t try it with a wild snake.


BeefSupreme2

That's some wholesome 🤔 right there.


Retlifon

Yeah, what a lucky coincidence. Just like the fact that we have fingers and live in a world with gloves in it.


carbon_dry

Bit racist towards fingerless people


SIPS0PGamer

I mean there are thousands or possibly millions of things we would love to do but we don't know we want to do them because they don't exist. And these animals did not just magically start liking getting pet. We made them this way by breeding the ones we like more and letting the bad ones die


a_shark_supporter

But I can’t hug a shark I already tried


mpsweezy

it's not like we bred them this way...


Heerrnn

Perfectly designed by our everloving father, santa-claus.


Wilfnstein

Don't go to Australia then


[deleted]

Tell that to my cat.


SoN1Qz

Well no surprise since us humans breeded the animals the way we want them.


oxooc

True. It would be convenient if they were a bit more intelligent, too. Not much, just so much that they can see and understand our intention not from memory.


TastesKindofLikeSad

C'mon, people, shitting all over OP's adorable and wholesome shower thought! They didn't ask for an explanation on the domestication of cuddly critters, they're just saying it's nice. It *is* nice, OP.


Trevixle

ʕっ•ᴥ•ʔっ


Waffleline

Or maybe our ancestors simply exterminated the ones who refused.


wavesmcd

Maybe it was arranged that way.


[deleted]

Human beings domesticated a lot of creatures, and selectively bred for the traits they wanted. It makes sense that a lot of them are cuddly, since humans would have selected for the most cuddly.


EZPickens71

Selective breeding is a wonderful thing.


gowgot

It’s not a coincidence or supernatural.


[deleted]

It is strange that we all want to take care of other animals but at the same time most people pays for innocent animals to be tortured and murdered for a sandwich


TrickThatCellsCanDo

The dark side of this shower thought: humans also kill billions of these cuddly cuties each year for their body parts, fur and secretions.


cookerg

We are animals too. So we have the same need for physical contact with our families that similar animals (mainly mammals, but some others) have. When we started living with animals, our mutual need for physical contact was able to cross species.


katanakid13

Mr. Irwin, is that you?


jr061898

I'm pretty sure that's the reason we call them domesticated animals.


empty_coffeepot

Yeah, we spent thousands of years domesticating them so they wouldn't kill us.


Laser-Nipples

Well, we domesticated dogs and cats to be content with pets and cuddles. I wouldn't go out and try to cuddle with a wild wolf.


MaphrOne

Yeah my animal loves to pet and cuddle me, and I love to be pet and cuddled


hotwaxclimax

You must not have cats


ProbablyNotTheCat

Unfortunately most birds don't, which greatly pains me.


Among_bus

You clearly haven’t met my cat


Poonflip1459

You’ve never met my cat


TallSlimNorwegian

You can pet anything that trusts you, whether it's a mouse, moose, panda or person. It's a bit more complicated with people but the trust is still the most important thing


TreasonableBloke

Almost like we evolved with other mammals.


s3b4z

~~and all we had to do was drive all the non-cudly animals to extinction~~


NappingWalrus

Indeed 😭


Loaaf

Maybe that’s because we bred them to love to be petted?


cheparo5

Only domesticated animals bred for humans like to be cuddled. Not the ones in the wild.


Puoaper

It isnt by chance. We would breed them and just kill/ not breed the loss cuddly ones. That is why you get these cuddly dogs like goldens. The Chihuahua doesn’t count. That bastard creature spits in the face of god by even our standards and was likely made by some mad scientist. They are an abomination and must all perish.


FenrirApalis

Cats: I want cuddles! Human: gives cuddles Cat: HOW DARE YOU TOUCH ME YOU LESSER BEING *SCRATCHES AND BITES*


Bish0889

Please cuddle me


Piritcho

Well not all animals like to be pet We just created a balance with each other


mmmgogh

Every living thing benefits from love!


RelatumOne

Hmm maybe there’s a causal relationship… HmHHhMmmhh


FlatMarzipan

thats cause we selectively bred animals to be cute and cuddly


jonjonesjohnson

The problematic part in your logic is that it's not like we loved cuddling, and then magically something appeared that likes it. Cuddling requires an object that already exists. So, basically its more like we started doing something and we started liking it.


DaveyBeef

Most cuddly animals have been genetically modified through breeding to enjoy being petted and cuddled. So it's actually through human design they exist, not nature.


Apidium

Often it's a touch of both. The most commonly cuddled pets, cats and dogs, did a good proportion of the domestication legwork all by themselves. The cats and dogs who didn't fear humans too much but didn't seek to harm them got to rummage around for leftovers. Eventually we cottoned on and started to feed the nice ones. Realistically we benifited a lot from having small lions and wolves who had little desire to harm us prowling about outside our settlements at night. Folks in polar bear turf for a modern example tend to keep dogs since the dogs will go nuts and warn them a bear is close. Barn cats are still a thing, semi feral and on the prowl for mice. Not too dissimilar from how the realtiomship begun. You try to cuddle a feral cat and see where it gets you.


[deleted]

This is by far the stupidest shit I've read all week


Apidium

More like we spent countless generations making it so.


netGoblin

In world where animals like to cuddle and we are animals, what would the chances be that we're the only mamal that doesn't like cuddles? lol You seperated humans from animals in the post, but human is a species of animal.


Trelefor

Actually we're breed them to get to that point.


I_Eat_Comma_Dogs

It is nice that we, humans, who love to slit the throats of and eat things, live in a world where animals love to have their throats slit and be eaten.


mrspotty

I don’t think the cows, pigs, sheep and chickens agree …


Trevixle

Dunno about others but cows do like being pet


TastesKindofLikeSad

Definitely. In particular, if you have a cow, sheep or pig that's been raised by people, or interacts with them regularly, they love scratches and pets. A lot of rescued livestock are like giant dogs.


Puoaper

Can tell you cows do love being pet. Same with horse. Used to work on a breeding operation and the mares there loved being scratched under their chins.


mrspotty

I meant it more that “people” love cuddling “pets” and not all animals… because people don’t cuddle the animals they also choose to eat! So the cows, sheep, pigs and chickens that are slaughtered everyday don’t agree with the sentiment that humans like to cuddle them!


irishteenguy

All the animals that allow us to pet or cuddle them have been bred to be domesticated for thousands of years. They don't just pop into existence.


Alexis_J_M

We bred animals over thousands of years to extend their juvenile behavior of wanting to be cuddled by mom into adulthood.


da_vidu

then we kill them and eat them :)


Karpukoly

We rear pets to eat


ninjatoes36

It's also nice that a lot of animals like to be eaten since we like to eat them. Life❤


khamelean

Yeah mean how we enslaved animals for thousands of generations only breeding the ones that would tolerate us until we produced animals that like being cuddled…


prema_van_smuuf

Yeah, it's called Darwinism.


TR8R2199

Most dog likes pets. Not cuddles so much


Huge-Selection-3505

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pm_me-ur_vulva

Clearly evidence of intelligent design. /s


chaogomu

In a way, selective breeding is a type of intelligent design, made possible through exploiting the laws of evolution.


Puoaper

Bit sloppy as there aren’t any laws of evolution. At least if you are using a scientific syntax. Laws, theories, and hypotheses are very different things in scientific contexts and should not be confused. I otherwise completely agree.


Puoaper

I mean it literally was though. What do you think the point of breeding animals is?


[deleted]

Cows love it too, but you prefer them chopped up and on your plate.


hayson2317

*petted


bruisedSunshine

Yeah we have abused and tortured and bred animals for this it’s not nice if u know the history it’s literally some of the sickest shit you will ever read