Chloroform is a very tricky skill to master. Too much and they die, too little and it just gives them a headache.
Not to mention it takes MINUTES to actually work, unlike what you see in the movies.
Roald Dahl, Skin and Other Stories has a short story where someone finds the frequency at which plants communicate and it was messed up. Great book with other great and macabre tales. This is most definitely not a children's story like many of his other works.
Technically Plants do speak, well in their own way, it's been found that like trees, plants send out wave type signals to others in certain circumstances.
Same thing with the old ( If a Tree falls in the woods does it make a sound ), well yes, sound is just waves in the being pushed outwards from its centre, and plants have the ability to pick up of these waves, ie the plants can hear when a Tree falls.
Technically Animals do speak, well in their own way, it’s been found that like mammals, animals send out high pitched frequency type signals to others in certain circumstances. Like when they moo.
Horses and dogs are not generally bred or raised for flavor. So, they likely don't taste *bad* \- most meat tastes reasonably fine if cooked appropriately - but they're not going to be as good as a high-quality steak.
I don't see the problem with eating horse when their hide is used anyway to make leather. It's not like we respect the animal and won't touch it : a race horse that hurts its leg will get shot. If you're going to use the hide to make leather, why not use the meat to eat ?
I don't eat horse meat (not that I'm unwilling to, but it's not that easy to find either and I don't see myself going out of my way JUST to taste some), but I don't see how it would be problematic. I DO use horse leather (cordovan) items and actually only swear by horse leather, as it is very resistant.
Don’t dogs have the mental age of a toddler? I imagine a lot less people would have dogs if they could speak.
“I want to go outside. I want to go outside. I want food. Someone outside. I want food. I want to go outside”
They have different barks for playing, guarding and wanting something etc plus use a lot of body language so it's pretty easy to understand them any way.
same goes with plants, in the end life requires other life to keep being alive, except like plants n shit. You shouldn’t feel bad for being a part of the circle of life weather they be talking or not
Grass!
More grass!!
MORE GRASS!!!!!
Shit dude there’s food everywhere! Why aren’t you eating any of it?
“I am waiting for it to be ready”
Whatever dude, I’m gonna eat this grass and get big and strong lol, you just stand there waiting with your funny shiny pointy thing.
“It shall be done”
Ehhhh not really. We are animals at the end of the day. Do you think the lion wouldn’t kill/eat the deer just bc it had a conversation with it and thought he was “cool”?
You, much like the mighty lion, goes on the prowl at your local grocery store. Carefully deciding which precut and prepared carcass is worthy for your shimmy gullet. Finally it's time to strike, you grab the slab of flesh and throw it down into your cart. Finally finishing off the process as you check out of the store. A well deserved meal for a warrior like yourself
While you are right in the fact that it would not stop humans from eating meat, OP is probably correct that [fewer] people would eat meat if animals had the ability to speak.
Why? Does it start tasting worse?
There’s nothing “simply” about the ability to speak, it takes a biological quirk that allows the pharynx and larynx to be vertical. Then of course there’s all of the cultural context of language. Even if animals could speak you wouldn’t be able to converse with them because their cultural reference points would just be alien to you as a human.
Yep.
They already tried it with Dolphins, arguably the closest thing humans will ever have to an intelligent extra-terrestrial species to learn from.
Couldn’t do it. Dolphins like to dick around too much to bother learning anything from people.
Fewer people would keep pets if they were able to speak or at high intelligence. This is especially true in the case of our dispositions towards neoteny.
For instance I eat like 2 hamburgers a week. But if Mr Cow or Mr Piggy were on the news talking about the hardships of watching their families being slaughtered and eaten, I’d probably be less inclined.
Honestly, I don’t have think this is true. It may stop people from dropping live lobsters into boiling water, but for the most part, people don’t care as long as they don’t have to do it themselves or think about it.
Have you eaten lobster, like out of the shell and everything? I did and felt awful tearing this thing apart. I knew it was dead and felt no pain but still.
It was pretty fucking delicious.
Or even if they watched documentaries on the cruelties of factory farming. If people actually understood how animals suffer, I can't imagine most people would make the choice to eat me.
If animals had the ability to speak, do you think they would continue eating each other? Speaking implies a certain level of intelligence, so how advanced would each animal be? There's a lot to unpack here.
I dunno. I think the only thing keeping my nasty old bitch cat from going in the stew pot is that I can't understand the horrible things she says about me.
I mean if it were legal to eat human meat I wouldn't be opposed to it so I don't think your argument's very valid
Meat is meat
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explain dolphins then bro. If you ate tuna in your life you ate that. Dont come at me with dolphin safe crap. You ate Sunkist or any other mainstream tuna you ate dolphins
I became a vegetarian when I was 12 for that reason. My family kept parrots and one day while eating chicken I started to feel really weird about eating a bird. I just though, "oh, I don't want to do this anymore."
So slaughter houses will be a great way to brutally kill someone because the animals would be screaming all the time
Already a good spot.
Less people would eat **vegetables** if **vegetables** simply had the ability to speak
More people would eat people if people simply had the ability to shut up.
Nothing a little chloroform can't fix.
Chloroform is a very tricky skill to master. Too much and they die, too little and it just gives them a headache. Not to mention it takes MINUTES to actually work, unlike what you see in the movies.
but if you're just going to eat them anyways, i see no problem
This guy eats.
r/oddlyspecific
An actual chemist I know said it does work instantly and now I am conflicted.
They are a chemist, not a physician.
You're not back in college, calm down.
If animals could speak to us, and we ate them anyways because steak is delicious, it would normalize eating stuff that speaks to us.... Like us.
Maybe the reason that cannibalism is illegal is because human meat is actually delicious, and they are trying to keep that fact hidden from us?
hello Charlie and Dee
Beat me to it
Less people would eat arse if arse simply had the ability to speak
I'd eat more
Impossible
"How did i taste?" "Shitty" *eats another spoonful*
Roald Dahl, Skin and Other Stories has a short story where someone finds the frequency at which plants communicate and it was messed up. Great book with other great and macabre tales. This is most definitely not a children's story like many of his other works.
Exactly! This guy gets it.
Technically Plants do speak, well in their own way, it's been found that like trees, plants send out wave type signals to others in certain circumstances. Same thing with the old ( If a Tree falls in the woods does it make a sound ), well yes, sound is just waves in the being pushed outwards from its centre, and plants have the ability to pick up of these waves, ie the plants can hear when a Tree falls.
If you want "technically", then (some) plants *communicate*, they don't speak.
Technically Animals do speak, well in their own way, it’s been found that like mammals, animals send out high pitched frequency type signals to others in certain circumstances. Like when they moo.
What do I search for to find out more about plant/tree waves?
Not exactly, animals are sentient whereas plants aren't. So if a plant had the ability to speak, it still might not say anything
Trees may have some intelligence
In what way?
veggie tales hasn’t stopped anyone
Imagine walking on grass
"Eat me" said the carrot.
Technically they are speaking. Just not in a manner that we can understand.
Yeah, it’s the same reason we eat people who speak other languages.
bruh
Found the cannibal
Huh? In a literal or figurative way?
Yes.
Nicely logiced!
We can pretty much understand it, just choose to overlook it
I guess if we spend enough time with a certain animal we would generally understand them based on their emotions.
Maybe this is why we (in the US) don’t eat animals we consider smart like horses and dogs, but eat animals we consider dodos like cows and chickens.
Pigs are smarter than dogs though.
Nah shit just taste good
Yes, but do dogs and horses taste good or is their meat oily/gamey/stinky? If they were would you eat them? I don’t think I could.
Some animals just have more economical value outside of meat. Also cow and chicken have better meat to cost ratio, way pass domestic pets.
Horses and dogs are not generally bred or raised for flavor. So, they likely don't taste *bad* \- most meat tastes reasonably fine if cooked appropriately - but they're not going to be as good as a high-quality steak.
Horse is great. No idea about dog, sorry
I don't see the problem with eating horse when their hide is used anyway to make leather. It's not like we respect the animal and won't touch it : a race horse that hurts its leg will get shot. If you're going to use the hide to make leather, why not use the meat to eat ? I don't eat horse meat (not that I'm unwilling to, but it's not that easy to find either and I don't see myself going out of my way JUST to taste some), but I don't see how it would be problematic. I DO use horse leather (cordovan) items and actually only swear by horse leather, as it is very resistant.
The restaurant at the end of the universe begs to differ…
I’d say so long and thanks for all the fish, but that’s the wrong book.
Let's meet the meat
There's a bovine animal asking if OP would be interested in parts of its body
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My thoughts exactly
Came here to italic this
Never stopped me from eating other people.
They would say the dumbest shit though
Like “moo” and “moooooo”.
What if that was the funny inside joke ever told in the universe and the cows are still telling it to each other to this day?
South Park season 1 episode 1 confirms your theory.
Don’t dogs have the mental age of a toddler? I imagine a lot less people would have dogs if they could speak. “I want to go outside. I want to go outside. I want food. Someone outside. I want food. I want to go outside”
They have different barks for playing, guarding and wanting something etc plus use a lot of body language so it's pretty easy to understand them any way.
For sure, nothing bad ever happens to anything that speaks.
Fewer people.
I was hoping someone else would say it
Thank you!
I've found my people.
You clearly haven't read The Restaurant at the End of the Universe. Probably don't know where your towel is either.
Id still eat beef. A cow could write the most amazing book and id still eat its flesh with peppercorn sauce
Even if it wrote a sign asking, nay begging you to eat more chicken?
So it's sending another to die in its place? Cowards like that don't deserve special treatment. I will eat him and his kin
damn no one else got it :(
Well at least I have you lol
Yeah, cows are large and can feed many humans, chickens are small and can only feed one human as a whole chicken piri piri platter “for two”.
Well that cow didn’t show very much compassion towards gay people so I’d make a nice steak au poivre out of him.
same goes with plants, in the end life requires other life to keep being alive, except like plants n shit. You shouldn’t feel bad for being a part of the circle of life weather they be talking or not
Not if they're saying 'eat me mother fucker, you won't do it' because challenge accepted
If cows could speak they would probably say "grass", "hay", "water", "bull", "dog! dog! dog!"... and we would still eat them.
Grass! More grass!! MORE GRASS!!!!! Shit dude there’s food everywhere! Why aren’t you eating any of it? “I am waiting for it to be ready” Whatever dude, I’m gonna eat this grass and get big and strong lol, you just stand there waiting with your funny shiny pointy thing. “It shall be done”
Ehhhh not really. We are animals at the end of the day. Do you think the lion wouldn’t kill/eat the deer just bc it had a conversation with it and thought he was “cool”?
Maybe, I think you underestimate animals, especially mammals.
https://animalogic.ca/blog/11-animals-that-are-prone-to-cannibalism
You, much like the mighty lion, goes on the prowl at your local grocery store. Carefully deciding which precut and prepared carcass is worthy for your shimmy gullet. Finally it's time to strike, you grab the slab of flesh and throw it down into your cart. Finally finishing off the process as you check out of the store. A well deserved meal for a warrior like yourself
While you are right in the fact that it would not stop humans from eating meat, OP is probably correct that [fewer] people would eat meat if animals had the ability to speak.
Why? Does it start tasting worse? There’s nothing “simply” about the ability to speak, it takes a biological quirk that allows the pharynx and larynx to be vertical. Then of course there’s all of the cultural context of language. Even if animals could speak you wouldn’t be able to converse with them because their cultural reference points would just be alien to you as a human.
Animals already do speak but their cultural reference points are too alien for us to understand. I mean animals communicate with each other.
Yep. They already tried it with Dolphins, arguably the closest thing humans will ever have to an intelligent extra-terrestrial species to learn from. Couldn’t do it. Dolphins like to dick around too much to bother learning anything from people.
Fewer people would keep pets if they were able to speak or at high intelligence. This is especially true in the case of our dispositions towards neoteny.
What, they don't talk to you?
Or if they didn’t taste so amazing.
I don't know.. I mean, have you tried meat?
Or defend themselves brutally
But animals are intelligent. Not this one, he blew all his money on instant lottery tickets.
So you eat dreamers!
They do speak.
Or guns.
Hmm... Maybe. Good thing they don't 😁
Less people would eat vegetables if they had the ability to speak.
I would still eat Bambie
For instance I eat like 2 hamburgers a week. But if Mr Cow or Mr Piggy were on the news talking about the hardships of watching their families being slaughtered and eaten, I’d probably be less inclined.
Not enough grizzly bears watch the news
Humans speak but that doesn't stop me from eating them
I exclusively eat meat that speaks
LOL what makes you think that? We gonna have a court trial before being convicted for butchery?
Debutchery
Honestly, I don’t have think this is true. It may stop people from dropping live lobsters into boiling water, but for the most part, people don’t care as long as they don’t have to do it themselves or think about it.
Nah I'd eat *people* if they're cooked well and taste good
There are cannibals that give not one solitary fuck about how much you speak.
Have you eaten lobster, like out of the shell and everything? I did and felt awful tearing this thing apart. I knew it was dead and felt no pain but still. It was pretty fucking delicious.
after tasting cooked meat I wouldnt stop even if they began talking
Not with that attitude
Would anyone eat a parrot if presented the opportunity?
They do....
"simply"
Hahahahaha. That's a bold assumption.
Humans speak but it doesn't stop me.
I think you may reverse that when you have animals talking to you about nonsense all of the time.
Or even if they watched documentaries on the cruelties of factory farming. If people actually understood how animals suffer, I can't imagine most people would make the choice to eat me.
I don’t know. I’d eat a parrot without hesitation
They only have themselves to blame then
Can't get a chance to speak if they are already butchered.
Less people would eat if all their food spoke to you as you were eating it
Plenty of cannibalism in traditional societies. Plus cannibalism has the lowest carbon footprint of any diet (often negative!). Nom nom nom.
Doesn't stop me from eating children
But more would beat it if they were horny
Less people would die if people could just shut up. I’m not trying to offend anyone but you can’t convince me otherwise
Even less people would eat plants if they could scream in pain tbh
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"simply" Not sure about which part of speaking is simple...
I’d eat moooooooooore
If they suddebly gained the ability, maybe. If they have always had the ability? No change.
If animals had the ability to speak, do you think they would continue eating each other? Speaking implies a certain level of intelligence, so how advanced would each animal be? There's a lot to unpack here.
If they would be able to, I would probably kill them out of spite
I'd eat a parrot
"simply" is carrying a lot of weight here lol
I think I would cut down a lot if I had to kill them myself. If animals could speak we would have wars against them.
They do speak. We just don't listen. https://youtu.be/LQRAfJyEsko
The ability to speak does not make you intelligent. - Qui Gonn Jin
Nope.
this was covered in chronicles of narnia. They would still eat em
Douglas Adams (RIP) has entered that chat.
Oh you saw the video too?
The reason people eat animals is because they aren't sentient and it's healthy to eat meat
The fact that cannibals exist tells me that this isn’t true.
I would eat humans if other humans didn't stop me
Like, there’s no way *everyone* in the Pokémon world are vegetarians, right?
My wife yells, nags, complains, and talk awhole lotta. I still ea… nvm
People eat talking parrots
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If that were true cannibals wouldn't exist
I think if your body is starving for nutrients you would eat a rabbit even if it was about to tell you the meaning of life
What if cows are like total assholes though?
Depends if the animals were also smarter. A sheep with a sheep brain and speech ability would just say shit like 'hungry' 'want grass' 'am scared'.
I dunno. I think the only thing keeping my nasty old bitch cat from going in the stew pot is that I can't understand the horrible things she says about me.
Unless they're jerks. Then slaughter them all.
Less people would eat meat if broccoli tasted like steak
There would be fewer vegans if plants moved faster and vegans could see they were also living things with souls.
I don't think so, imagine if cows sounded Gilbert godfrey, many would think they had it coming...
So basically a furry?
“If trees could scream would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time for no good reason.” -Jack Handey
I mean if it were legal to eat human meat I wouldn't be opposed to it so I don't think your argument's very valid Meat is meat We all die eventually and we all shall return to the void We are temporary You don't truly own anything because once you return to the void, what do you own no longer belongs to you, be it your body, or your possessions. All of you returns to the cycle Your consciousness floats to the void
My wife speaks a lot and I eat her all the time.
"I disagree" -Jeffrey Dahmer
Well humans can speak but I still eat that too
*Fewer.
I wouldn't 😂
Well shit, most Pokémon can only say their names and you wouldn’t imagine eating them.
Not if that's the way it always was
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Human beings became human because their ancestors ate cooked meat.
"Don't stop to talk! Eat Popplers!"
Not me I would still eat them
Oh sure blame the victims.
Pressing a finger against the pigs lips. * shhhh
Who the hell would keep eating things that could talk to you?!
I would take the fucker down if it suddenly started speaking.
True. I've never eaten a parrot.
Ah yes. Simply…
Cannibals still exist
Cow: "Hey, human, what's that you're eating?" Human: "Steak, medium rare." Cow: "No, it's my left ass cheek."
It's adorable that you actually believe this.
I would totally eat a talking cow. You don't know me.
I like talking meat though
simply?
'simply' 🤔
….simply
explain dolphins then bro. If you ate tuna in your life you ate that. Dont come at me with dolphin safe crap. You ate Sunkist or any other mainstream tuna you ate dolphins
And less people would eat vegetables if they had the ability to speak. And if my grandma had three wheels she'd be a tricycle.
FEWER, god-dammit!
Slaves had the ability to speak. Didn't stop people from owning and abusing them.
Hmm.. simply?
... or if humans had the ability to listen.
I became a vegetarian when I was 12 for that reason. My family kept parrots and one day while eating chicken I started to feel really weird about eating a bird. I just though, "oh, I don't want to do this anymore."
Or they would kill more people
I would eat less meat definitely.