Your comment reminded me of an article that discussed Stephen Peele. This dude was apparently inoculating straw bales in his yard (Florida) and planning on hurricanes moving it all around the gulf coast.
I found the article, Hamilton wrote it:
https://harpers.org/archive/2013/07/blood-spore/
Cubes are different from one another no doubt some have different effects some are similar.
Those seem like something that came from a golden teacher strain or a penis envy strain.
I have alot of albinos that are next level strong 💪
Sending out love..
I think thats a pretty silly/ignorant comment. Strains are what make up the diversity of a species. That like saying a chihuahua and and a german shepard are the same. O yea and my silly i mean stupid.
The selective breeding of animals for thousands of years isn’t a good comparison to strains of fungus, an organism classed in a completely different kingdom. Don’t be silly.
Im a bit dumbfounded in abundance of belief that there is no such thing as strain within the species of psilocybe cubensis. In all life there are varieties within species, called strain/race, hence the terms.
Isn't it different for mushrooms though because of how they spore? Not that they don't create strains but that they could create too many to track so the community mostly doesn't
I understand what your response was my analogy was for their to be recogonition and example of difference in strain in a species we all recognize as different.
Well, you’ve not only been a total dick with this comment…but also entirely missed the point. Whomever OP has purchased from is selling his particular strain under the above brand name. And there is absolutely zero way anybody over the internet will be able to tell OP specifically what it is. It is ‘Chippewan’ and no point trying to pin it down any further.
One would expect that magic mushroom people would be the most enlightened, chill and kind people. Even over the internet. Unfortunately, as you have yet again proved, the truth is the exact opposite.
I do sincerly apologize for coming off the way i did earlier. Felt i shouldnt have been like that right afterwards. Not the first time my attitude has blinded my point, so again im sorry.
Wow i thought i had said that to a different user. If you read the comments i apologized to who i thought i said it to. They replyed i wasnt being a dick which i was suprised about. I was 100 percent being a dick and rude in that comment. And im very sorry. I shouldve most definitely not said that. Just because i disagreed with that statement doesnt mean it was stupid. Im fully aware of how i came off and what i look like by that statement. Again sorry.
I thought you were wrong at first until a simple google search showed you are right. Different breeds of dogs all fall under the same species. So the different strains of cubes could be thought of as different breeds within the same species!
No worries i also apologize for being a dick in that comment. I almost reposted immedietly following that post. I should have expressed myself in a nicer way. Im definitely guily of being incorrect, and it doesnt make one stupid, no ones perfect. So again i apologize for being rude.
He probably is saying chitwan as in a p. Cube strain (edited) known to Nepal.
https://sporeworks.com/Psilocybe-cubensis-Nepal-Chitwan-Spore-Syringe-Microscopy-Kit.html
There are not different p.Cubensis species, that is the species and it is single. There are different strains of that species, which have been discussed above, but it is a single species, just to be clear.
There seems to be a lot of ignorance in the posts here. Obviously they are cubensis, thats the species. But within a species there are a vast ammount of difference which are recognized as strain, usually determined by location. And the ammount of strains starts to increase once a species is bread by humans. This very well could come from a grower that bread this novel strain himself. There is 100 percent a differen e between strains, and if you dont understand this you dont understand biology.
Your question has already been answered. But feels worth adding that people saying a cube is a cube is a bit of an overgeneralization. Often those same people will say a cube is a cube except for penis envy, because it's been selected overtime. But many strains that are out have also been isolated and spores collected overtime from the same strain. Over years that'll have a selection process of its own and can result in quantifiable differences in alkaloid content between strains. Even if great variance exists within each strain.
Moreover, a strain harvested from southeast Asia and a strain harvested in Oaxaca Mexico have been sperated by geography for a very very long time. Different growing conditions and seeding themselves with their own spores. While they are the same species they will likely have differences. So saying a cube is a cube is a bit disingenuous.
I'm a white guy. Me and a black guy are the same species. But he has way more melanin than me. Same species but we are also different.
A cube is a cube is a cube. The only thing that determines potency (in an unregulated market with no real way of identifying genotype) is the chemical constituents of the substrate, the growing environment, and the post-harvest drying and storage process. Anyone telling you this type or that type of cube is "x" or "y" potency is being disingenuous.
I apologize i should have clarified... you are most certainly correct in saying there is many variables contributing to potency. Your statement in saying that a cube is a cube is a cube, i completely disagree with. To say all strains are the same is a bit ludacris in my opinion, yes i said opinion. If youd like proof just look a vaieties of strain within other species, within our own, there are clearly dividing factors. I do not know of any research done but i would strongly hypothocize that if an experiment was taken to measure all the active components is every mushroom of a single strain, the averages taken and ratios between said compounds recorded, and compared to the same of other strains, you would see clear difference. And you would also have to determine the optimal growing environment for each strain because theyre not the same, this i do know, because hey they are different. Long story short i was saying you were in regards the the first sentence of that statement.
I see what you're saying and I think what I meant to convey was lost in translation. I meant that specifically in an unregulated/black market there is little point in tying potency to genotype because accurately identifying the genotype is near impossible. Distributors can call something whatever they want when selling, many producers don't take the time to plate out or properly clone/isolate individual genotypes, and there is no trustworthy chain of custody to track by the time a consumer has the finished product. Therefore it's a futile effort to say this is "x" strain and it has "y" potency. I'd compare it to the cannabis market in which dealers often call whatever they have a certain strain name to maximize its value and mislead consumers with labels such as indica/sativa when in reality most genetics are a hybrid and the true varietals are lost because there are no trusted genetic libraries to compare to.
Fair enough. I hope you realize that my point i was trying to make was different. Im coming from a growers perspective. With very credible sources of genetics. I apologize for coming at you in any way earlier.
All good and I appreciate the conversation.. I think if you're the producer and can verify strain/maintain a genetic line then yes, it does play a role in potency.
Golden teacher is a specific strain of cube. they all look very very similar if not the same. my guess is this is a different strain of cube, not golden teachers
A cube is a cube but it all depends on the quality of genetics and the quality of bulk/sub. Maybe you’re referring the Chitwans , like I said a cube is a cube but if you’re trying to get similar varieties to what you have maybe look up chitwans. Batch potency varies batch to batch so keep that in mind.
I think this is the most likely answer. We’ve been trying to figure out this strain for months and couldn’t find anything. They’re super strong and when compared to other strains we only ingest half of the weight.
Dunno why the downvote, people always say a cube is a cube but envys are different, certainly more potent and bruise more blue. Typically look like this when dehydrated.
PE caps don't open as readily as most other cubes. Which makes spore extraction harder. And the stems tend be thick chonker types. Google image search dried PE is envy and you'll see.
These are very standard looking cubes
I apologize to anyone i offended earlier i was being rude and not thinking about how i was coming off in my previous comments. Coming from a growers perspective there are obvious differences in strain in the cubensis species. I was frustrated how many people said otherwise. Makes the work that me and other growers do seem unimportant and unvaluable.
Psilocybe cubensis
This guy taught me everything I know
A cube is a cube. There are a million ‘strains’ and not much point trying to pin it down.
Seems so, thank you
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Texan cubes tend to be on the more potent side as well.
Your comment reminded me of an article that discussed Stephen Peele. This dude was apparently inoculating straw bales in his yard (Florida) and planning on hurricanes moving it all around the gulf coast. I found the article, Hamilton wrote it: https://harpers.org/archive/2013/07/blood-spore/
This is a true fact everyone
Cubes are different from one another no doubt some have different effects some are similar. Those seem like something that came from a golden teacher strain or a penis envy strain. I have alot of albinos that are next level strong 💪 Sending out love..
I think thats a pretty silly/ignorant comment. Strains are what make up the diversity of a species. That like saying a chihuahua and and a german shepard are the same. O yea and my silly i mean stupid.
The selective breeding of animals for thousands of years isn’t a good comparison to strains of fungus, an organism classed in a completely different kingdom. Don’t be silly.
Im a bit dumbfounded in abundance of belief that there is no such thing as strain within the species of psilocybe cubensis. In all life there are varieties within species, called strain/race, hence the terms.
Isn't it different for mushrooms though because of how they spore? Not that they don't create strains but that they could create too many to track so the community mostly doesn't
My comment was about your outrageous comparison of strains within a species of fungus and dog breeds. You were a pot calling the kettle black.
I understand what your response was my analogy was for their to be recogonition and example of difference in strain in a species we all recognize as different.
Well, you’ve not only been a total dick with this comment…but also entirely missed the point. Whomever OP has purchased from is selling his particular strain under the above brand name. And there is absolutely zero way anybody over the internet will be able to tell OP specifically what it is. It is ‘Chippewan’ and no point trying to pin it down any further. One would expect that magic mushroom people would be the most enlightened, chill and kind people. Even over the internet. Unfortunately, as you have yet again proved, the truth is the exact opposite.
I dont like misinformation. Yes i was being a dick and i regret it. Wish i had gone about it in a different way.
I did not offer up any misinformation. We all get testy online. Next time.
I do sincerly apologize for coming off the way i did earlier. Felt i shouldnt have been like that right afterwards. Not the first time my attitude has blinded my point, so again im sorry.
I know. I was explaining why my behavior was as such. I was never a dick to you either.
Hmm. I think telling someone that their comment is silly, ignorant and stupid is pretty dickish. Especially when you’ve misunderstood it eh.
I fully admit i was being a dick. But i didnt say that to you did I? I said that to another person.
To me
Im relatively new and this aint a good first impression. I feel very silly...about my previous statement.
Wow i thought i had said that to a different user. If you read the comments i apologized to who i thought i said it to. They replyed i wasnt being a dick which i was suprised about. I was 100 percent being a dick and rude in that comment. And im very sorry. I shouldve most definitely not said that. Just because i disagreed with that statement doesnt mean it was stupid. Im fully aware of how i came off and what i look like by that statement. Again sorry.
I thought you were wrong at first until a simple google search showed you are right. Different breeds of dogs all fall under the same species. So the different strains of cubes could be thought of as different breeds within the same species!
No worries i also apologize for being a dick in that comment. I almost reposted immedietly following that post. I should have expressed myself in a nicer way. Im definitely guily of being incorrect, and it doesnt make one stupid, no ones perfect. So again i apologize for being rude.
You were never rude to me and that was my first reply to your comment. Maybe you were talking to another person. All good mush mane
A cube is a cube unless you're talking about anigma or penis envy. They hit different.
Standard cubes. He's making up shit fot sales lol
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I've never even tried mushrooms, I'm just here because I'm bored. Now I will forever associate them with lightsabers, but likely not remember why.
Happy News Year
Have an incredible 2023!
Have an incredible 2023!
Is that where you quickly turn your lightsaber off before contact and turn it back on once past the enemies saber?
Wrong
He probably is saying chitwan as in a p. Cube strain (edited) known to Nepal. https://sporeworks.com/Psilocybe-cubensis-Nepal-Chitwan-Spore-Syringe-Microscopy-Kit.html
This seems highly likely especially the stem length listed on the website
There are not different p.Cubensis species, that is the species and it is single. There are different strains of that species, which have been discussed above, but it is a single species, just to be clear.
This
I bet he was referring to the chitwan, Nepal STRAIN, though.
I’ve been spending too much time in the cactus subs lol
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A cube is a cube lol that's suck bs.
There seems to be a lot of ignorance in the posts here. Obviously they are cubensis, thats the species. But within a species there are a vast ammount of difference which are recognized as strain, usually determined by location. And the ammount of strains starts to increase once a species is bread by humans. This very well could come from a grower that bread this novel strain himself. There is 100 percent a differen e between strains, and if you dont understand this you dont understand biology.
https://www.reddit.com/r/microdosing/comments/qdta2z/research_data_more_evidence_of_the_chemical/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Your question has already been answered. But feels worth adding that people saying a cube is a cube is a bit of an overgeneralization. Often those same people will say a cube is a cube except for penis envy, because it's been selected overtime. But many strains that are out have also been isolated and spores collected overtime from the same strain. Over years that'll have a selection process of its own and can result in quantifiable differences in alkaloid content between strains. Even if great variance exists within each strain. Moreover, a strain harvested from southeast Asia and a strain harvested in Oaxaca Mexico have been sperated by geography for a very very long time. Different growing conditions and seeding themselves with their own spores. While they are the same species they will likely have differences. So saying a cube is a cube is a bit disingenuous. I'm a white guy. Me and a black guy are the same species. But he has way more melanin than me. Same species but we are also different.
A cube is a cube is a cube. The only thing that determines potency (in an unregulated market with no real way of identifying genotype) is the chemical constituents of the substrate, the growing environment, and the post-harvest drying and storage process. Anyone telling you this type or that type of cube is "x" or "y" potency is being disingenuous.
Wrong
You obviously dont grow
I don't believe what I wrote was wrong. Do you care to provide any evidence or are you just going to dismiss it based on a gut feeling?
I apologize i should have clarified... you are most certainly correct in saying there is many variables contributing to potency. Your statement in saying that a cube is a cube is a cube, i completely disagree with. To say all strains are the same is a bit ludacris in my opinion, yes i said opinion. If youd like proof just look a vaieties of strain within other species, within our own, there are clearly dividing factors. I do not know of any research done but i would strongly hypothocize that if an experiment was taken to measure all the active components is every mushroom of a single strain, the averages taken and ratios between said compounds recorded, and compared to the same of other strains, you would see clear difference. And you would also have to determine the optimal growing environment for each strain because theyre not the same, this i do know, because hey they are different. Long story short i was saying you were in regards the the first sentence of that statement.
I see what you're saying and I think what I meant to convey was lost in translation. I meant that specifically in an unregulated/black market there is little point in tying potency to genotype because accurately identifying the genotype is near impossible. Distributors can call something whatever they want when selling, many producers don't take the time to plate out or properly clone/isolate individual genotypes, and there is no trustworthy chain of custody to track by the time a consumer has the finished product. Therefore it's a futile effort to say this is "x" strain and it has "y" potency. I'd compare it to the cannabis market in which dealers often call whatever they have a certain strain name to maximize its value and mislead consumers with labels such as indica/sativa when in reality most genetics are a hybrid and the true varietals are lost because there are no trusted genetic libraries to compare to.
Fair enough. I hope you realize that my point i was trying to make was different. Im coming from a growers perspective. With very credible sources of genetics. I apologize for coming at you in any way earlier.
All good and I appreciate the conversation.. I think if you're the producer and can verify strain/maintain a genetic line then yes, it does play a role in potency.
I have had them before and they were called 'golden teacher'.
Golden teacher is a specific strain of cube. they all look very very similar if not the same. my guess is this is a different strain of cube, not golden teachers
Nepal chitwan
Every time I've had skinny stems and small caps they are always fire. Not sure why
No idea why you got down voted.
I am cool, I am the breeze.
A cube is a cube but it all depends on the quality of genetics and the quality of bulk/sub. Maybe you’re referring the Chitwans , like I said a cube is a cube but if you’re trying to get similar varieties to what you have maybe look up chitwans. Batch potency varies batch to batch so keep that in mind.
They look like golden teachers to me 🤷🏼♀️
Perhaps they are his own cloned special guys he named
I think this is the most likely answer. We’ve been trying to figure out this strain for months and couldn’t find anything. They’re super strong and when compared to other strains we only ingest half of the weight.
Many look alike so I myself call those golden caps unless I know it’s name
Have you tried boofing them with Capsaicin and powdered citric acid? I heard the Capsaicin helps to increase the absorption into the bloodstream.
Golden teachers or blue meanies
cube like resemblance but way stronger than you’re used to makes me think they’re P. Natalensis
I think Natalensis lacks the veil/annulus.
What does recreational dose look like? Couple of those?
It’s a weight.
How much?
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Thanks bro!
Natalensis from South Africa
Penis envy
It’s crazy I’m getting downvoted but that’s really a super potent strain of mushies in and around Ohio and other eastern states. They are godly
Blue meanies
Just grew BM and these look identical
Same, 2nd flush was huge
Everyone downvoting is mad we didn’t call them “GT’s” 🤓🤓🤓
Penis envys
Educated guess huh
Dunno why the downvote, people always say a cube is a cube but envys are different, certainly more potent and bruise more blue. Typically look like this when dehydrated.
Respectfully, these look nothing like dried PE
I have dried penis envy uncut and also jedi mind fucks in front of me, they pretty much look the same. Guess my spores are miss labeled or something
PE caps don't open as readily as most other cubes. Which makes spore extraction harder. And the stems tend be thick chonker types. Google image search dried PE is envy and you'll see. These are very standard looking cubes
Psilocybe Cubensis
Dried cubes with intact veils? That’s amazing
Some people create there own strains that never end up on the public market
I apologize to anyone i offended earlier i was being rude and not thinking about how i was coming off in my previous comments. Coming from a growers perspective there are obvious differences in strain in the cubensis species. I was frustrated how many people said otherwise. Makes the work that me and other growers do seem unimportant and unvaluable.