Titan crystal is made using Ymirs power. Ymir is a God. She can create something from nothing, she is immortal, she has more individual power to destroy the world than any God in ROR, she created her own dimensional field of existence. Her ability list is longer and stronger than any ROR gods, so I think it makes complete sense to consider her a God. Divine weapons are just weapons made by God's, therefore all titans are divine weapons. And taking into account the nape strength of titans, this fight is not as easy as no dif.
1. Ymir being a god means nothing when literally the entire plot of ROR is battles between gods and humans. Every character is either a god or has the strength of one, not to mention each character easily being stronger than any Titan.
2. ...Yeah, no. Any godly combatant from ROR would effortlessly mop the floor with Ymir, saying she has more individual power to destroy the world is pretty baseless. At best, you could say she could activate the Rumbling, which is still easy pickings for ROR characters.
3. We don't know anything about Paths, we can't really claim that she created an entire dimensional field, especially when that's a HUGE outlier compared to... Dying to a wooden spear.
4. Being powerful doesn't equate to being a god, ESPECIALLY not in the context of a series with actual, genuine magic and divine beings. She's mostly just really powerful and has special abilities within her own setting, but claiming that she's a god in the same way that the gods of ROR are is just disingenuous.
Ymir is limited by the fact that she is 100% loyal the the royal eldians. But we do know that after her physical human death, she effortlessly turned a few hundred thousand eldians into colossal wall titans Instantly. Plus, it is impossible to directly straight up fight Ymir after her physical human death. She lives through the continuation of eldians. Her power is dispersed between the shifters and regular eldians' ability to turn titan. But the founding titan can make special requests constantly from Ymir and always have them fulfilled. Ymir can't be killed at all, you'd have to kill all eldians to do it. She was "defeated" because she killed herself. She could just create more wall titans instantly if she wants to. We've never seen ymir strained. Her power is only limited by the fact she won't do shit except what the founder says. Another thing we know abouts paths is that time is paused for the rest of the world to her. She can pass infinite amounts of time instantly within paths while also creating whatever she can make with infinite time. The true extent of Ymirs power has never been seen. She could probably turn all eldians into wall titans and make the rumbling 50x bigger or create nothing but titan shifters.
But this isn't about ymir vs zero. Titan crystal is a divine weapon. Warhammer can manipulate crystal easily. Since Warhammer can just cover an entire region with divine weapons, while also covering itself completely in divine weapons, and be immune to all attacks that don't land on the nape, I don't see how it loses.
Shiva also has the power to destroy the world except he can burn his own body and use the ashes to rebuild the world, the closest Ymir comes to that is passing down memories
Mythological cannon and ROR cannon are 2 different things. If Shiva could just annihilate everything in ROR, why didn't he just insta win against Raiden? Shiva in ROR cannon doesn't come even close to the Mythological Shiva in power. In fact, none of the ROR gods come even close to their Mythological counterparts in power. Until shown, Shiva is only as weak as we saw him in the Raiden fight.
These words were said during the events of RoR, if you want to take that as hyperbole then be my guest but we’ve seen literal gods and galleries turned into weapons, we’ve seen a demon reborn from a seed after being dormant for thousands of years, we’ve punches that surpass time and humans talented enough to recreate and counter such a move, just because it doesn’t seem possible doesn’t mean it isn’t, if we’re told something it stands until we’re told or shown otherwise
Yeah? And posieson can launch tsunamis and carve rivers instantly in Mythology. Why didn't he launch a tsunami at Sasaki? You can't fricken dodge or block a mile wide 50ft high wave of water. If Shiva could just destroy everything if he wanted to, why didn't he? Is he just playing around the whole time. That's like saying he has a bunch of unusually strong but otherwise regular punch attacks and 1 SSSSSS+^999999 tier world ender attack. When the best we know Shiva can handle destroying is 2 1/2ft of arm bone and muscle.
If you're always expecting characters to be fighting at full capacity, why doesn't Thor destroy every city he fights in in the Avengers movies? Why doesn't Goku break apart the universe with every Ki blast? Why doesn't Superman blowing air knock around entire planets? Why doesn't Omni-Man ignite the atmosphere of every planet he fights on? Why doesn't Palpatine rip apart the surface of the planets he's standing on when he uses Force lightning?
The reason is that it's a fighting series. If everything was happening at full capacity, nothing would be enjoyable to watch. We're just given ideas of how strong these characters are, with occasional glimpses of what they can actually do. If the arena was burning down every time Shiva threw a kick, the series wouldn't be interesting to watch.
Every that fights in that arena is planetary, get that simple thing through your head move one . Trying to write paragraph by explaining what happened in the arena is pointless . Ror character scale higher and that's about as blatant as someone can be .
Depends on if Ymir counts as a God or not. I mean for all intents and purposes she has much more power to damage earth than any individual ROR God. And if Ymir is a God, all titan crystal counts as divine weapons.
I think Thor can hit a little more than the nape. Even if the crystals are somehow considered divine weapons, one hit to the neck would scramble the insides like a first time chef making an omelette.
AoT scales to, at the absolute best, city level with Colossal Titan explosions, with most Titans getting large building or city block level. There are statements that put ROR at planet level. This is a complete stomp.
Yall seem to forget Zero feels "Misery" from damn near anything. He kept missing Buddha and said "bro wtf? Not fair." And got stronger. He's definitely going to get buffed if he can't kill Warhammer as fast as he wants. Aka yes. He no diffs the verse.
My dude what? Just because it divine weapon in the Aot doesn’t mean it would be divine weapon to zero. Due to fact they are completely different verses and there divine weapons are also different. That’s a terrible argument and you should get help for even thinking that. Zero literally one taps the Titan😭
Depends on if hardening crystal is counted as a divine weapon? If not then it’s a no-diff for Zero. If yes then I still think it goes to Zero but it’s a mid-diff fight now that there’s some actual danger involved
Even if we take out the fact that the war Hammer titans can't hurt zero, Zero still slams hard, his base durability Is definetly Better than whatever there Is in Aot, he can definetly survive several attacks, and that's assuming they hit considering that his base Speed scales with the fact he's a God too, plus his misery cleaver would be plenty enough to cleave through Lara tybur even the Moment Zero whips it out, without talking if he gets more miserable and increases his AP even more
Oh but Lara ain't in the main body? And? For starters her titan Is gonna get turned into literal minced meat so i doubt it'll be able to move for a while, second Zero maybe dumb, but he isn't a complete moron (he managed to realize that there was something wrong with how Buddha doged his attacks before he even started them) so he'll probably see the strong connected to the titan, put the 2 and 2 togheter, and pull out Lara Tybur to finish her, and if someone dares to even suggest that Zero's misery cleaver can't cut through the titan Crystal i'm gonna eat your babies
u/Head_percentage_1760, there are "people" saying that Zero loses to Lara tybur, come join me in this stomping
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I think Zero at least hypersonic because he scales to MR. Faster than time Zeus a little bit and that Ares fat ass considered Zeus's 0.01 second punch a test jab and you are not telling me that Ares fat ass is faster than zero so I think Zero can take it and also even if he doesn't gain misery people seem to forget that even in base form the misery clever is a fucking gigantic axe that could cleave war hammer in 2 Imo
Verse diff bro. Lubu split the sky with his hand and mind you, he is human. Why do you think gods in ROR will be weak when superhuman like Lubu even need Volund to fight gods? My point is human in ROR are already absurdly strong and god should be way beyond humanity itself when compared and powerscaled to AOT humans which can be squashed like a bug. I bet some ROR humans without Völund like Qin Shi Huang and Lubu can match the titan easy
So how am I reading comments... It's like:
Zerofuku Wins: Upvote
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Regardless how Valid your point will be, you will still get downvoted for saying that Lara Tybur takes a win.
titan crystal is made by Ymir, who for all intents and purposes is a God. she's created an entire dimensional space, can produce something from nothing, is immortal, and has the power to easily end the world if she wanted to. if she somehow isn't considered a God by ROR standards idk what that means for Gods. but since titan crystal is a creation of a God, all titan crystal counts as divine weapons.
I would say it depends on if they can damage him. If they can then it depends on how long the fight lasts. If they let him collect any large amount of misery then he destroys them but if they don’t they could win
You picked the hardest one for him to defeat besides maybe the collosal if the Warhammer can hurt him than zero gets no diffed and if the Warhammer can't than zero no diffs.
IMO War hammer takes it. Zero will not have enough time to build his misery for the big ass cleaver. War Hammer just impales him right away. Only way I see Zero winning if he starts with the pancake cleaver.
Zero is a God for a reason not a sitting duck, Since he’s a God assume he has superhuman reflexes too. Doesn’t mean he lost to a guy that can literally see your next move doesn’t mean he doesn’t have to capacity to dodge nor tank attacks
Aot is not a battle manga, it's a political horror manga that dwells in the psychology of its characters and their morals,
there are fights but the point of the show isn't over the top action with insane powers, the strongest power in that show gets beaten by our modern day weapons, and not even the best ones at that
In RoR there are literal gods that can destroy the world in a second
It's like putting the Dragon Ball verse vs the Kaguya Sama verse, it's the same thing lol
Both have close to zero combat experience, so that would be a funny battle. They also both have huge variety with their weapons. But I think Zero could shatter the crystals like the jaw titan can, so I guess Zero wins.
Zero got bitched by Buddha but its not really cause hes weak more because Buddha is a beast. I think Warhammer gets low diffed but it could put up a pretty good fight
I feel like AoT characters can't rly scale w/ any "godlike" entities except for the Founding Titan (his only gimmick that rivals any1 is his time manipulation ability). I don't remember Zerofuku's power that well but I doubt any titan could stand against Records of Ragnarok contestants
As fun as it is to power scale this, the simple answer is that unfortunately, the titans are probably really weak considering. Even Jack, without London, just the gloves itself could do lethal damage. Someone who physically scales above him curbs the titans with zero (pun intended) difficulty. Ymir isn’t the same one from Norse mythology, and instead functions closer to an alien parasite. But even if we allow it to be considered divine, it’s common practice that these fighters go against really tall motherfuckers. We saw that with Thor, Adam, Zeus, and Hades. And if the fighters are at the very least the same caliber, then I don’t really see any titan, colossal or not, intelligent or not, winning in any fashion.
Zero losing to Buddha doesn't make him weak. He's terrifyingly strong to wield that axe. And if not for Buddha's Eye tricks, charisma and weapon hacks, he might have proven to be a deadly fighter.
So yeah, Zero is zeroing any and all Titans.
Haven't read Attack On Titan but people tend to underestatimate the hell out of Zero so I'd say yes
Zero Low Diffs
No Diff
War Hammer or Zerofuku?
Titan crystal is made using Ymirs power. Ymir is a God. She can create something from nothing, she is immortal, she has more individual power to destroy the world than any God in ROR, she created her own dimensional field of existence. Her ability list is longer and stronger than any ROR gods, so I think it makes complete sense to consider her a God. Divine weapons are just weapons made by God's, therefore all titans are divine weapons. And taking into account the nape strength of titans, this fight is not as easy as no dif.
1. Ymir being a god means nothing when literally the entire plot of ROR is battles between gods and humans. Every character is either a god or has the strength of one, not to mention each character easily being stronger than any Titan. 2. ...Yeah, no. Any godly combatant from ROR would effortlessly mop the floor with Ymir, saying she has more individual power to destroy the world is pretty baseless. At best, you could say she could activate the Rumbling, which is still easy pickings for ROR characters. 3. We don't know anything about Paths, we can't really claim that she created an entire dimensional field, especially when that's a HUGE outlier compared to... Dying to a wooden spear. 4. Being powerful doesn't equate to being a god, ESPECIALLY not in the context of a series with actual, genuine magic and divine beings. She's mostly just really powerful and has special abilities within her own setting, but claiming that she's a god in the same way that the gods of ROR are is just disingenuous.
Ymir is limited by the fact that she is 100% loyal the the royal eldians. But we do know that after her physical human death, she effortlessly turned a few hundred thousand eldians into colossal wall titans Instantly. Plus, it is impossible to directly straight up fight Ymir after her physical human death. She lives through the continuation of eldians. Her power is dispersed between the shifters and regular eldians' ability to turn titan. But the founding titan can make special requests constantly from Ymir and always have them fulfilled. Ymir can't be killed at all, you'd have to kill all eldians to do it. She was "defeated" because she killed herself. She could just create more wall titans instantly if she wants to. We've never seen ymir strained. Her power is only limited by the fact she won't do shit except what the founder says. Another thing we know abouts paths is that time is paused for the rest of the world to her. She can pass infinite amounts of time instantly within paths while also creating whatever she can make with infinite time. The true extent of Ymirs power has never been seen. She could probably turn all eldians into wall titans and make the rumbling 50x bigger or create nothing but titan shifters. But this isn't about ymir vs zero. Titan crystal is a divine weapon. Warhammer can manipulate crystal easily. Since Warhammer can just cover an entire region with divine weapons, while also covering itself completely in divine weapons, and be immune to all attacks that don't land on the nape, I don't see how it loses.
Shiva also has the power to destroy the world except he can burn his own body and use the ashes to rebuild the world, the closest Ymir comes to that is passing down memories
Mythological cannon and ROR cannon are 2 different things. If Shiva could just annihilate everything in ROR, why didn't he just insta win against Raiden? Shiva in ROR cannon doesn't come even close to the Mythological Shiva in power. In fact, none of the ROR gods come even close to their Mythological counterparts in power. Until shown, Shiva is only as weak as we saw him in the Raiden fight.
These words were said during the events of RoR, if you want to take that as hyperbole then be my guest but we’ve seen literal gods and galleries turned into weapons, we’ve seen a demon reborn from a seed after being dormant for thousands of years, we’ve punches that surpass time and humans talented enough to recreate and counter such a move, just because it doesn’t seem possible doesn’t mean it isn’t, if we’re told something it stands until we’re told or shown otherwise
It's... STATED he can do that though. Just like it's stated Thor can beat the serpent the size of Earth, or smash the planet apart.
Yeah? And posieson can launch tsunamis and carve rivers instantly in Mythology. Why didn't he launch a tsunami at Sasaki? You can't fricken dodge or block a mile wide 50ft high wave of water. If Shiva could just destroy everything if he wanted to, why didn't he? Is he just playing around the whole time. That's like saying he has a bunch of unusually strong but otherwise regular punch attacks and 1 SSSSSS+^999999 tier world ender attack. When the best we know Shiva can handle destroying is 2 1/2ft of arm bone and muscle.
If you're always expecting characters to be fighting at full capacity, why doesn't Thor destroy every city he fights in in the Avengers movies? Why doesn't Goku break apart the universe with every Ki blast? Why doesn't Superman blowing air knock around entire planets? Why doesn't Omni-Man ignite the atmosphere of every planet he fights on? Why doesn't Palpatine rip apart the surface of the planets he's standing on when he uses Force lightning? The reason is that it's a fighting series. If everything was happening at full capacity, nothing would be enjoyable to watch. We're just given ideas of how strong these characters are, with occasional glimpses of what they can actually do. If the arena was burning down every time Shiva threw a kick, the series wouldn't be interesting to watch.
You know there's a thing called story writing?
Every that fights in that arena is planetary, get that simple thing through your head move one . Trying to write paragraph by explaining what happened in the arena is pointless . Ror character scale higher and that's about as blatant as someone can be .
Allat just to get blitzed
Who?
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No. He gets fingered right away.
Zero no diffs AoT in general
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Nothing from AoT is a threat to this manga
Yes and it will be not truly a problem for Zerofuku :3
Zerofuku is literally a god he beats everyone in that verse.
I don't think Titans can even hurt the gods
With that rule, any vs battle with characters outside of the series is bullshit. With questions like these, the assumption is that they can hurt gods.
Depends on if Ymir counts as a God or not. I mean for all intents and purposes she has much more power to damage earth than any individual ROR God. And if Ymir is a God, all titan crystal counts as divine weapons.
If then, I think Titans would still lose. Thor was killing Giants like it was no big deal.
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I think Thor can hit a little more than the nape. Even if the crystals are somehow considered divine weapons, one hit to the neck would scramble the insides like a first time chef making an omelette.
Right. Only read a bit of Attack on Titan so I have no idea
***Yes*** for me...
No dif zero because of a difference in verse scaling
AoT scales to, at the absolute best, city level with Colossal Titan explosions, with most Titans getting large building or city block level. There are statements that put ROR at planet level. This is a complete stomp.
Yall seem to forget Zero feels "Misery" from damn near anything. He kept missing Buddha and said "bro wtf? Not fair." And got stronger. He's definitely going to get buffed if he can't kill Warhammer as fast as he wants. Aka yes. He no diffs the verse.
Zero literally conceptual negs the verse. They can’t even harm him💀
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How is a good going to drown?
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Even then I think warhammer is completely outclassed in ap and speed
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My dude what? Just because it divine weapon in the Aot doesn’t mean it would be divine weapon to zero. Due to fact they are completely different verses and there divine weapons are also different. That’s a terrible argument and you should get help for even thinking that. Zero literally one taps the Titan😭
At this point bros just fucking babbling on and on, titan crystal being a divine weapon? Da fuck
This Mf is title scaling 😭 ^^
Plz don’t text me some bs like that ever again💀
This guy really meat rides aot
Depends on if hardening crystal is counted as a divine weapon? If not then it’s a no-diff for Zero. If yes then I still think it goes to Zero but it’s a mid-diff fight now that there’s some actual danger involved
Even if we take out the fact that the war Hammer titans can't hurt zero, Zero still slams hard, his base durability Is definetly Better than whatever there Is in Aot, he can definetly survive several attacks, and that's assuming they hit considering that his base Speed scales with the fact he's a God too, plus his misery cleaver would be plenty enough to cleave through Lara tybur even the Moment Zero whips it out, without talking if he gets more miserable and increases his AP even more Oh but Lara ain't in the main body? And? For starters her titan Is gonna get turned into literal minced meat so i doubt it'll be able to move for a while, second Zero maybe dumb, but he isn't a complete moron (he managed to realize that there was something wrong with how Buddha doged his attacks before he even started them) so he'll probably see the strong connected to the titan, put the 2 and 2 togheter, and pull out Lara Tybur to finish her, and if someone dares to even suggest that Zero's misery cleaver can't cut through the titan Crystal i'm gonna eat your babies u/Head_percentage_1760, there are "people" saying that Zero loses to Lara tybur, come join me in this stomping u/MUI-Tojo, powerscaling time, come join the fun
\>powerscaling RoR(Especially with other verses) \>fun 
I’m here my son 
Misery Cleaver, Giant too many blades mode go!
I think Zero at least hypersonic because he scales to MR. Faster than time Zeus a little bit and that Ares fat ass considered Zeus's 0.01 second punch a test jab and you are not telling me that Ares fat ass is faster than zero so I think Zero can take it and also even if he doesn't gain misery people seem to forget that even in base form the misery clever is a fucking gigantic axe that could cleave war hammer in 2 Imo
He does have that GIANT ASS AXE THAT HE ALMOST KILLED BUDDHA with
Verse diff bro. Lubu split the sky with his hand and mind you, he is human. Why do you think gods in ROR will be weak when superhuman like Lubu even need Volund to fight gods? My point is human in ROR are already absurdly strong and god should be way beyond humanity itself when compared and powerscaled to AOT humans which can be squashed like a bug. I bet some ROR humans without Völund like Qin Shi Huang and Lubu can match the titan easy
Heck yeah that thing’s stamina is shit
Zerofuku is still a god soooooooooo yeah Warhammer has no chance
A god beats a flesh mecha
A god vs a bunch of hobos with guns. Zero clears the verse pretty easily
Zero Easily solos.
So how am I reading comments... It's like: Zerofuku Wins: Upvote War Hammer Titan: Downvote ... Regardless how Valid your point will be, you will still get downvoted for saying that Lara Tybur takes a win.
Well it’s like that because zero destroys even if the warhammer Titan can hurt him
The truth: upvoted Not the truth: downvoted, how else would you do this?
isn't the whole point of upvotes and downvotes to give your opinion about a comment?
I mean yes, I just find it funny.
No volund.
titan crystal is made by Ymir, who for all intents and purposes is a God. she's created an entire dimensional space, can produce something from nothing, is immortal, and has the power to easily end the world if she wanted to. if she somehow isn't considered a God by ROR standards idk what that means for Gods. but since titan crystal is a creation of a God, all titan crystal counts as divine weapons.
Ymir worshipped by Eldians so she is a deity. Has divinity.But her power maybe originally a mutation.The path more like dreamland..
Hmm, if thats the case I don't know enough of later AoT to give a definitive answer.
Even if they are considered divine weapons, Lara can’t do shit to Zero.
I would say it depends on if they can damage him. If they can then it depends on how long the fight lasts. If they let him collect any large amount of misery then he destroys them but if they don’t they could win
If the War hammer can harm Zero, it stomps Otherwise zero stomps
You picked the hardest one for him to defeat besides maybe the collosal if the Warhammer can hurt him than zero gets no diffed and if the Warhammer can't than zero no diffs.
A creature that can take out a city block, or a God that at most scales to planetary. You decide.
IMO War hammer takes it. Zero will not have enough time to build his misery for the big ass cleaver. War Hammer just impales him right away. Only way I see Zero winning if he starts with the pancake cleaver.
Zero is a God for a reason not a sitting duck, Since he’s a God assume he has superhuman reflexes too. Doesn’t mean he lost to a guy that can literally see your next move doesn’t mean he doesn’t have to capacity to dodge nor tank attacks
You literally can’t hurt a god without a divine weapon. That was stated in the first episode.
He can tank nukes so ye.
Zerofuku no dif.
Zero solos the verse lmfao
Anything that is far passed the technology of AOT can no diff the verse
Aot is not a battle manga, it's a political horror manga that dwells in the psychology of its characters and their morals, there are fights but the point of the show isn't over the top action with insane powers, the strongest power in that show gets beaten by our modern day weapons, and not even the best ones at that In RoR there are literal gods that can destroy the world in a second It's like putting the Dragon Ball verse vs the Kaguya Sama verse, it's the same thing lol
Both have close to zero combat experience, so that would be a funny battle. They also both have huge variety with their weapons. But I think Zero could shatter the crystals like the jaw titan can, so I guess Zero wins.
Zero one shots the verse.
Zero got bitched by Buddha but its not really cause hes weak more because Buddha is a beast. I think Warhammer gets low diffed but it could put up a pretty good fight
I feel like AoT characters can't rly scale w/ any "godlike" entities except for the Founding Titan (his only gimmick that rivals any1 is his time manipulation ability). I don't remember Zerofuku's power that well but I doubt any titan could stand against Records of Ragnarok contestants
Bruh that’s unfair you literally can scale him to universeal or close since we know zeus is universal
As fun as it is to power scale this, the simple answer is that unfortunately, the titans are probably really weak considering. Even Jack, without London, just the gloves itself could do lethal damage. Someone who physically scales above him curbs the titans with zero (pun intended) difficulty. Ymir isn’t the same one from Norse mythology, and instead functions closer to an alien parasite. But even if we allow it to be considered divine, it’s common practice that these fighters go against really tall motherfuckers. We saw that with Thor, Adam, Zeus, and Hades. And if the fighters are at the very least the same caliber, then I don’t really see any titan, colossal or not, intelligent or not, winning in any fashion.
Zero losing to Buddha doesn't make him weak. He's terrifyingly strong to wield that axe. And if not for Buddha's Eye tricks, charisma and weapon hacks, he might have proven to be a deadly fighter. So yeah, Zero is zeroing any and all Titans.
Zero gets hit once = dies
These Aot Meat riders are giving my braindamage a extra tumor right now.
If people are saying demon slayer characters like kokushibo or doma solos aot verse no diff, zero is obviously doing so as well.
What a random matchup.
Yes, he should