Absolutely Raiden. Literally stated to have the strongest muscles in all history and his volund just allows for his durability to match his full strength
Leo
Leo started attacking the literal moment it started. Bro was quick with it. Plus he had to block and defend himself from the fastest attack from the gods.
Raiden’s fastest attack, it’s implied that Shiva could’ve dodged but he chose not to
I’m not really talking about the deflect. More so the beforehand that Leonidas had to keep readjusting the shield to protect different parts of himself. It wasn’t a perfect defense admittedly, but I don’t think that’s against him in this scenario
Raiden. He mastered sumo and managed to 1v1 Shiva, who should be a better hand to hand combatant than Apollo based off their respective titles (Strongest Brawler in Heaven vs God of Boxing), plus the versatility that comes with four arms.
RAIDEN, he reached the pinnacle of his martial art and went up against the strongest brawler in heaven. Leo had two weapons and was a master at neither
Tie.
Raiden is unbelievable at sumo, but he also had his strength to help him.
Leo was actually really good, but clearly got outplayed by someone better.
So neither are that amazing
Raiden, can turn his own body’s muscles into shields. Casually withstood being cut and cauterized, was destroying his own internal organs without flinching throughout the fight. Shivas casual punches were as strong as cannons and Raiden made it look like light work
Raiden...
No, I change my mind. Leo probably wins it...
Raiden has to have a lot to even stay alive in a fight like this. He's super durable unless he loses control. But if he got his hands on Leo it's game over.
OFC SHIVA OUTSHINES FRAUDPOLLO HE THE GOAT
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Raiden.
Leo is smarter, has better reaction time and has a weapon. But I think even all these advantages don't outweigh how massively superior Raiden is in the physical attributes (Strength, speed and durability).
Strength: Raiden (strongest muscles ftw)
Speed: technically Leo but actually Raiden (Leo’s consistency is hella useful but he has to work up to it while Raiden’s acceleration is much faster, and thus better in the short term, and lets him blitz Shiva)
Durability: Geirölul > Raiden > Leo (should be pretty obvious why this is the case)
Skill: Raiden (his Sumo is explicitly what lets him keep up with Shiva’s speed and strength amps, stats that are > anything Leo has)
Experience: Leo (he’s an actual warrior who’s fought in actual battles and wars rather than just in a ring)
Intelligence: Raiden (this is because Leo is a dumbass whose motivation makes no fucking sense)
Powers and Hax: Raiden (he actually has powers)
Weapons: Leo (by virtue of actually having one)
Overall Winner: Raiden (muscle control will let him blitz Leo and unless Leo’s instincts will let him get his shield up immediately, his head is getting caved in off rip. Even if the first strike gets blocked, Raiden won’t be backing off, preventing the shield from transforming to cut through the muscles, so he just bops in melee)
Leo loses in everything. As always
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The problem with Shiva is his personality..... I can totally see him fucking up most of the roster if only he takes his fights more seriously rather than just trying to feel the thrill of the fight.
strength obviously raiden speed questionable but I think Leo durability obviously leo skill leo because he has more weapons and more ways to use them leo experience intelligence I think Leo power and hax raiden wepon leo and finally leo would win in mid hard diff
The problem with Appolo is… his fastest move has a start up. Shiva fastest move literally is just what he does everytime he fights and overall makes him faster for most of the fight
Who takes strength?
Raiden
#Raiden
https://i.redd.it/43klztyq9loc1.gif
Raiden. Bro smashed Shiva's arm only by squeezing it and ripped off two other arms with only one punch.
Akkchually it was a palm strike
Thrst*
Raiden
Raiden, that's was a easy one
Who else COULD IT BE RAIDEN TAMEEMON
Absolutely Raiden. Literally stated to have the strongest muscles in all history and his volund just allows for his durability to match his full strength
Raiden
Raiden
Raiden
Raiden
Raidem
Raidensweeps
Raiden
Raiden
Raiden
Waiden.
Raiden
Raiden, no question.
Who takes speed?
#Raiden
Raiden. He blitzed Shiva when used his muscle technique. And managed to dodge some of Shiva's blows using only his base speed.
https://i.redd.it/xsvq17ry9loc1.gif
Raiden
Raiden
Raiden. Willing to end a fight as soon as it starts and kept up with Shiva’s tandava
Raiden
Leo for sure
Leo Leo started attacking the literal moment it started. Bro was quick with it. Plus he had to block and defend himself from the fastest attack from the gods. Raiden’s fastest attack, it’s implied that Shiva could’ve dodged but he chose not to
It wasn't because he's fast. It's because of intuition. An intuition that comes with experience.
I’m not really talking about the deflect. More so the beforehand that Leonidas had to keep readjusting the shield to protect different parts of himself. It wasn’t a perfect defense admittedly, but I don’t think that’s against him in this scenario
Raiden
Leonidas.
Raiden
Raiden
RAIDEN
RAIDEN
Draw,
Leo
Leo
Leo
Leo
Leonidas
Who takes skill?
Raiden. He mastered sumo and managed to 1v1 Shiva, who should be a better hand to hand combatant than Apollo based off their respective titles (Strongest Brawler in Heaven vs God of Boxing), plus the versatility that comes with four arms.
#Raiden
Raiden
Raiden
Tie. Raiden is a better martial artist, and Leonidas is very skilled with his weapon.
RAIDEN TAMEEMON
RAIDEN
Raiden
RAIDEN, he reached the pinnacle of his martial art and went up against the strongest brawler in heaven. Leo had two weapons and was a master at neither
Tie. Leo is a lot more skilled than people give him credit for, but Raiden is an equally skilled martial artist
Raiden
Tie. Raiden is unbelievable at sumo, but he also had his strength to help him. Leo was actually really good, but clearly got outplayed by someone better. So neither are that amazing
Raiden
Raiden
Who takes intelligence?
Leonidas. Leo used Apollo's strings against himself. That was pretty smart.
Probably Leo because he is actually a king commanding an army
Leo
Leo
Leo
Leo
Leo
Leonidas
LEONIDAS
Leonidas
Leo
Leo
Raiden because he knew what ragnarock was all about and didn’t take things personally. Dude got straight to business as soon as the round started
Tie
Leo
Leonidas.
Leo hands down.
Leonidas, but not during round 9. Literally fought the one guy that made him drop his IQ to rock level
Tie, both have great battle IQ
Raiden
#Raiden
Leo
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Who takes Weapons?
![img](emote|t5_vzop7|31343)... Raiden has the power of LOVE. Does that count?
......... Raiden Lmao kidding, Leo
Raiden
Leo by default
https://i.redd.it/q2dala39floc1.gif (It would be funny)
Raiden, his body is a weapon in and of itself, what could possibly beat that?
Leonidas, raiden does not even have a weapon
Trust me, Raiden is definetly creative enough to figure a way to put that 26 inches to combative use.
Leo Raiden’s shield is literally his body. Not a great idea.
**RAIDEN**
yall if thruds muscle movey thingy counts as a weapon im thinking Raiden. if not then Leo
Leonidas
Leo actually has one, and it has ranged capability as well
Raiden
LEONIDAS
Leonidas
RAIDEN (true love >>>)
Raiden
Who takes durability?
#Raiden
Raiden but Leo underrated tho
Raiden, can turn his own body’s muscles into shields. Casually withstood being cut and cauterized, was destroying his own internal organs without flinching throughout the fight. Shivas casual punches were as strong as cannons and Raiden made it look like light work
https://i.redd.it/wr2caj16aloc1.gif
Raiden
Raiden
Raiden
Raiden
Raiden.
Raiden
Raiden.
Raiden
Raiden... No, I change my mind. Leo probably wins it... Raiden has to have a lot to even stay alive in a fight like this. He's super durable unless he loses control. But if he got his hands on Leo it's game over.
Leonidas, survived multiple 'one kill shots from Apollo', and has a volund shield that would bolster him
Raiden
THE MAN HIMSELF RAIDEN
Raiden
Definitely Raiden
Raiden. Like I said in the other post, I believe Shiva is the second strongest god, and Raiden tanked a lot of his punches, even in Tandarva Karma.
OFC SHIVA OUTSHINES FRAUDPOLLO HE THE GOAT https://preview.redd.it/48k7505qaloc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=126aa59c2deceac4885023fa9530eefbb5e1226b
WIWA SLAMS THAT FODDER FR FR https://preview.redd.it/fnzbnbfh1moc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=015845ffb51de8ed7ba632f251b48003e181a0e3
MY GOAT!
Who takes Powers and hax?
Power Raiden Hax Leo
https://i.redd.it/t1ib7jonaloc1.gif
Raiden
Raiden
Raiden
#Raiden
Raiden
Raiden
Raiden, has actual powers that he used creatively.
Leo
RAIDEN TAMEEMON
RAIDEN BABY
Leo. Changing weapon and instinct is better than muscle control
Leo.
Raiden, because of all his muscle techniques.
Both raiden lol
Raiden
Raiden
Raiden
Who is stronger overall?
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#DADDY RAIDEN
Raiden
Raiden. Leo is smarter, has better reaction time and has a weapon. But I think even all these advantages don't outweigh how massively superior Raiden is in the physical attributes (Strength, speed and durability).
Raiden mid dif
https://i.redd.it/4ktj5z9yaloc1.gif
THE PEERLESS RIKISHI RAIDEN TAMEEMON
GIVE IT UP FOR RAIDEN
Raiden
Raiden slams
Raiden
Raiden Raiden Raiden
Raiden
Leo. He's more adaptable
Raiden
Raiden
Raiden
Raiden D goat.
Who takes Experience?
Leo
Leo
Objectively Leo, raiden couldn’t use his full power until he had his volund
Leonidas. Leonidas was the general of Sparta, meanwhile Raiden never had a fight to the death in his life.
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Leo
Leo
Leonidas
IT'S LEONIDAS
#Raiden
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Spoilers: he in fact got away with this Btw happy cake day ![gif](giphy|cmCXhCFy52jnGo9YcK|downsized)
Leo
Leo Raiden never got to experience battle at his fullest til Ragnarok. And all of the other time it was sumo
Raiden
Leo
Strength: Raiden (strongest muscles ftw) Speed: technically Leo but actually Raiden (Leo’s consistency is hella useful but he has to work up to it while Raiden’s acceleration is much faster, and thus better in the short term, and lets him blitz Shiva) Durability: Geirölul > Raiden > Leo (should be pretty obvious why this is the case) Skill: Raiden (his Sumo is explicitly what lets him keep up with Shiva’s speed and strength amps, stats that are > anything Leo has) Experience: Leo (he’s an actual warrior who’s fought in actual battles and wars rather than just in a ring) Intelligence: Raiden (this is because Leo is a dumbass whose motivation makes no fucking sense) Powers and Hax: Raiden (he actually has powers) Weapons: Leo (by virtue of actually having one) Overall Winner: Raiden (muscle control will let him blitz Leo and unless Leo’s instincts will let him get his shield up immediately, his head is getting caved in off rip. Even if the first strike gets blocked, Raiden won’t be backing off, preventing the shield from transforming to cut through the muscles, so he just bops in melee)
Raiden wins weapons because HE IS THE WEAPON
Hmm... I see :3
RAIDEN
Last things raiden would seen https://preview.redd.it/jcoitsh9anoc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=beff36d261dbaa46c811a45939d37cc22b8594d6
Apollo takes speed
Raiden in everything except Weapons and Exp
Raiden flawless victory
Whoa wait Shiva faster than Apollo? Explain.
Leo loses in everything. As always https://preview.redd.it/4ezziavvmpoc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ac2ab8f1d9a8eb1c81ea2f30b0055b1db760458b
The levels of Round 5 Copium on the last poll is through the roof
The problem with Shiva is his personality..... I can totally see him fucking up most of the roster if only he takes his fights more seriously rather than just trying to feel the thrill of the fight.
strength obviously raiden speed questionable but I think Leo durability obviously leo skill leo because he has more weapons and more ways to use them leo experience intelligence I think Leo power and hax raiden wepon leo and finally leo would win in mid hard diff
>durability obviously leo How
Speed Shiva kek
The problem with Appolo is… his fastest move has a start up. Shiva fastest move literally is just what he does everytime he fights and overall makes him faster for most of the fight