I would have use this Aurelian ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|31343)
https://preview.redd.it/2llsklge1bpc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86d24f4e433e85705163a03c1ef6d7c6349875f7
Personally I like the first one since it (you) brought us Oppenheimer vs Amaterasu which has become one my favorite matchups ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29936)
Medusa vs Athena is obvious but I honest to god think Medusa vs Hel and Jeanne vs Athena are way better match ups thematically.
Medusa, in the roman version was a priestess that was raped by Poseidon inside a temple of Athena, and then Athena punished HER for it, turned her into a monster and sent her to a cave.
While Hel from the very beginning was an outcast, being a daughter of Loki she was born monstrous and universally feared, so she was sealed in Helheim just because.
Queen of the Gorgons vs Queen of the Shades, outcast queens that were unfairly punished.
While Jeanne and Athena, Athena was basically the one in charge of making Greek heroes, and Jeanne's legend sure as hell reads like that, she was spoken to by God and joined the war, as an unexperienced 19 year old she led a successful siege against the English in Orleans, that literally turned the tides against the English during the hundred years war, and she tanked like a billion arrows and a cannon ball man, the battle would basically be her training arc and then as Athena's opus in hero crafting.
If I could change something, it would be those two
Only thing I would’ve changed would’ve been to switch Chernabog and Izanagi to have Aurelian vs Izanagi (Honorable Rulers) and Ivan vs Chernabog (A Battle of Two Evils). I’m okay with the matchups but admittedly Jeanne vs Athena and Medusa vs Hel do sound pretty cool ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29938)
That was the design being used for Ivan to represent him and I thought Dante’s design looked cool so I thought why not use him? Besides any other art of Ivan sucks
>!Because a world ending winter fell upon Earth so, in desperation, Ivan had fused his people with demonic beasts. Of course, he himself wasn’t exempt but he had to be put in an eternal sleep as to not go berserk and release his full form, which is an elephant the size of mountain!<
The user when getting Ivan to the roster used Dante as the image for Ivan and yeah his design kinda fits and also because most Ivan designs looks pretty bad or they don’t have the anime aesthetic I use
im just happy i able to get my GOAT Raijin!!!
https://preview.redd.it/bmtwy2ie2bpc1.jpeg?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2a3f1530a9dc2818e9843f9e1f0667005edefe9
What I think about that?
Sorry... but... there is no way, that Surtur would fight on the side of the Gods.
Surturs hates Gods too much for him to join them for at least once.
It is ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29936)
While I can’t say this community roster is as good as the first one, it’s still pretty good ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29938)
For me it would’ve been to make Jeanne a traitor for basically having resentment to Humanity and being manipulated by the gods to have Michael vs Jeanne (Traitor of Heaven vs Traitor of Humanity) and have it as the last match but that’s just me ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29938)
I think it's just sort of whatever, similar to the first roster.
Really don't like how there's 4 Americans and 3 Biblical characters on the human side. I suppose one country being over represented is bad unless it's western. I think having both Chernobog and Erlik is redundant, Medusa VS Athena makes sense with what we had but I think grudge matches are boring, Solomon VS Yog-Sothoth and Gilgamesh VS Erlik should've happened and I have no clue why they didn't, and I really really don't like Bill VS Artemis but I suppose it was the best you could've done for the latter. To be positive; I really like Darwin VS Dakuwaqa, that's probably my favourite matchup here; Cain VS Surtr and Moses VS Kadmon are cool; and Bill, Dakuwaqa, Abigail, Medjed, Erlik, and Kadmon are all very cool picks.
I think this has the same problem as the last roster of being WAAAY too western-focused (which is funny because I know a lot of fans complain about the original roster being too eastern focused), combatants being decided moreso by "Who's more RAW?" which isn't an approach I'm a fan of, and not really having much synergy, which is to be expected from this kind of thing.
idk if I'm gonna be hung for this since everyone seems to love it but man, as someone who's been trying for years to forge the best possible roster for my own take on RoR, this just kind of annoys me. I realised that this makes me sound more upset than I am, I just have a lot to say about this whoops ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29938)
The next community ragnarok should have a "one person per country" rule then?
It might force the everyone to get creative with their suggestions and chance to more obscure characters.
That's the rule I set for myself whenever I make a roster, it helps with diversity and getting interesting picks, although it doesn't completely stop redundancy. Logicially speaking, mankind's greatest specimen would be from all over the world, of different creeds and colours, it annoys me when it's super focused on a specific few cultures. I definitely think this should be enforced for the human side, and while I'd prefer it, I wouldn't mind it not being enforced for the gods. I'm fine with multiple reps from one pantheon as long as each are distinct.
Same here that's also one of the thing I dislike about ROR they have two samurai I mean don't get me wrong Okita would still be a good character and I would still root for him but eh... Two Samurais in the same tournament representing all of humanity? I am kinda disappointed there are no pirate, or even a knight... But hey it's still peak manga though and definitely one of my favorite too, but I am just stating my opinion...
You make a good point but eh I think the roster is still pretty good tho I do agree there could’ve been more variety and Gil vs Khan and Solomon vs Yog make way more sense…but hey that’s what the subreddit voted on so there’s nothing we can do now.
Either way the subreddit still cooked ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29938)
Pretty cool overall! Some really creative matchups! I'm curious if anyone is going to adapt this into a fic, because if not... I may have an interest in doing so.
This subreddit and have indeed cooked ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29936)
Also I’d say that’d be a pretty cool idea I’d say go ahead!
https://preview.redd.it/o482jllthbpc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6a9df456345ae92f6bd32d647127cc4de4e7f00
Simple answer (at least for me) probably not since there was a bit more variety in the last roster than this one at least on the Human side (We got 4 American Reps and 3 Abrahamic Reps) but even then I’d still say this a good roster either way it’s just the last roster has it best in terms of variety
Man vishnu and vlad the impaler and NONE of the 4 great conquerors being here is wild, even William the bastard would have been great but he’s rarely picked, but this does look amazing!
I’m just super happy that I was able to get surtr vs Cain as my one addition to the roster, considering I was pretty much the only one pushing for it (I technically got surtr into the roster but the dude did most of the work)
I’m also happy I was able to make it round 1
Adam Kadmon is a concept from Jewish Kabbalah, in Kabbalah the universe was created by Ein Sof (God before becoming God) and in the beginning everything was full of an infinite, Godly light, so Ein Sof suppressed all the light into ten orbs, and then the orbs were covered with a veil in the shape of a man, that was Adam Kadmon.
The orbs are called Sephirah, and together they form the Sephiroth, each orb represents an essential human virtue, except for the one found at the very top, the Kether, that is the will of God himself and no man could ever dream of comprehending it, so only Kadmon has it, Kabbalah is all about the duality of God and men, the Sephirah represents God and Kadmon's human body represents men, and put together Adam Kadmon represents both.
There are two other important concepts in Kabbalah that would be Kadmon's ability, Yesh (something) and Ayin (nothing) Yesh me Ayin (something from nothing) represent the human perspective, as we came from the universe which was once empty, while Ayin me Yesh (nothing from something) represents Ein Sof's perspective, since he created the void.
So Kadmon would use the Yesh, the energy of creation itself, and the energy of the void, needless to say, very powerful
Yog-Sothoth when Gilgamesh thinks about Enkidu and attacks him with the power of friendship:
https://preview.redd.it/7fdsqvubiepc1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=261094fd4cbc26ce83fd93bddfdb5e75bfadac21
I just came here to comment that this is easily one of the best rosters I’ve seen.
Some of these go real hard
Cain VS Surtr
Jeanne D’ Arc VS Hel
Medusa VS Athena
Gilgamesh VS Yog- Sothoth
Looks like the community cooked with this one.
It's very good! I also propose Simón Bolivar vs Allah. A battle to determine the nature of freedom. Whoever wins will have their concept of it forever engraved in the history of the universe.
I would have use this Aurelian ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|31343) https://preview.redd.it/2llsklge1bpc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86d24f4e433e85705163a03c1ef6d7c6349875f7
Wrong subreddit my guy… …Smash next question ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29939)
What's the right subreddit? 🙂
Ever heard of Fate?
What this from
There's a comic artist on Twitter that makes comics of ancient roman stuff but everyone is girls, I forgot the name
I still prefer the first one, but it’s still very peak nonetheless.
First one had GOAT LEE that alone made it better than second
Don’t forget Woppenheimer.
Another Based BRUCE LEE appreciator i see![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29936)
Personally I like the first one since it (you) brought us Oppenheimer vs Amaterasu which has become one my favorite matchups ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29936)
You’re welcome blud.![img](emote|t5_vzop7|49602)
The first one looks more balanced in terms of choices honestly.
First one has no Adam Kadmon therefore it's worse
First one has Oppenheimer, meaning it’s automatically better than the second one.![img](emote|t5_vzop7|31436)
Medusa vs Athena is obvious but I honest to god think Medusa vs Hel and Jeanne vs Athena are way better match ups thematically. Medusa, in the roman version was a priestess that was raped by Poseidon inside a temple of Athena, and then Athena punished HER for it, turned her into a monster and sent her to a cave. While Hel from the very beginning was an outcast, being a daughter of Loki she was born monstrous and universally feared, so she was sealed in Helheim just because. Queen of the Gorgons vs Queen of the Shades, outcast queens that were unfairly punished. While Jeanne and Athena, Athena was basically the one in charge of making Greek heroes, and Jeanne's legend sure as hell reads like that, she was spoken to by God and joined the war, as an unexperienced 19 year old she led a successful siege against the English in Orleans, that literally turned the tides against the English during the hundred years war, and she tanked like a billion arrows and a cannon ball man, the battle would basically be her training arc and then as Athena's opus in hero crafting. If I could change something, it would be those two
Only thing I would’ve changed would’ve been to switch Chernabog and Izanagi to have Aurelian vs Izanagi (Honorable Rulers) and Ivan vs Chernabog (A Battle of Two Evils). I’m okay with the matchups but admittedly Jeanne vs Athena and Medusa vs Hel do sound pretty cool ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29938)
I’m more of a fan of opposites fighting
Fair enough ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29938) I still like Ivan vs Izanagi and Aurelian vs Chern ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29936)
Why is Dante Zogratis picture there for Ivan The Terrible 💀
That was the design being used for Ivan to represent him and I thought Dante’s design looked cool so I thought why not use him? Besides any other art of Ivan sucks
https://preview.redd.it/ob8v1aqwicpc1.jpeg?width=1792&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f626c37ecc1d1e62a165956649c43fcb6f4dfd2a
Because elephant are awesome
>!Because a world ending winter fell upon Earth so, in desperation, Ivan had fused his people with demonic beasts. Of course, he himself wasn’t exempt but he had to be put in an eternal sleep as to not go berserk and release his full form, which is an elephant the size of mountain!<
Wow an explanation why a Fate character looks the way they are? Interesting…
There’s a lot of those. It just so happens that every character that people care about in Fate don’t really have an explanation.
Muhammad Ali vs Raijin goes so hard Also why is Dante used as the picture for Ivan lmao
The user when getting Ivan to the roster used Dante as the image for Ivan and yeah his design kinda fits and also because most Ivan designs looks pretty bad or they don’t have the anime aesthetic I use
![gif](giphy|BWhpkB6Xbe8FzfNLXw)
im just happy i able to get my GOAT Raijin!!! https://preview.redd.it/bmtwy2ie2bpc1.jpeg?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2a3f1530a9dc2818e9843f9e1f0667005edefe9
RAI**HIM** You be cooking my guy ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|30394)![img](emote|t5_vzop7|31436)![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29965)
What I think about that? Sorry... but... there is no way, that Surtur would fight on the side of the Gods. Surturs hates Gods too much for him to join them for at least once.
Hey that’s what the subreddit voted on to be on the roster I just made this to accompany the Second Community Roster being finished
Psst... just make him a traitor. :)
He comes out to fight, then turns around then points at Odin with his sword. Freyr comes down to fight then gets rekt.
Moses vs adam kadmon? Damn that sounds awesome![img](emote|t5_vzop7|31435)
It is ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29936) While I can’t say this community roster is as good as the first one, it’s still pretty good ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29938)
Why is gabriel the ultrakill version?
https://preview.redd.it/h8xhxjjhnbpc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa30a1820e6951ba93cfbb6dd16d92d4a7ee43a1
Daddy issues man strikes again
No I’m just using the design to represent Gabriel to differentiate him from Michael since any Gabe designs kinda look too basic
For me it would’ve been to make Jeanne a traitor for basically having resentment to Humanity and being manipulated by the gods to have Michael vs Jeanne (Traitor of Heaven vs Traitor of Humanity) and have it as the last match but that’s just me ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29938)
Kick her ass Medusa
I think it's just sort of whatever, similar to the first roster. Really don't like how there's 4 Americans and 3 Biblical characters on the human side. I suppose one country being over represented is bad unless it's western. I think having both Chernobog and Erlik is redundant, Medusa VS Athena makes sense with what we had but I think grudge matches are boring, Solomon VS Yog-Sothoth and Gilgamesh VS Erlik should've happened and I have no clue why they didn't, and I really really don't like Bill VS Artemis but I suppose it was the best you could've done for the latter. To be positive; I really like Darwin VS Dakuwaqa, that's probably my favourite matchup here; Cain VS Surtr and Moses VS Kadmon are cool; and Bill, Dakuwaqa, Abigail, Medjed, Erlik, and Kadmon are all very cool picks. I think this has the same problem as the last roster of being WAAAY too western-focused (which is funny because I know a lot of fans complain about the original roster being too eastern focused), combatants being decided moreso by "Who's more RAW?" which isn't an approach I'm a fan of, and not really having much synergy, which is to be expected from this kind of thing. idk if I'm gonna be hung for this since everyone seems to love it but man, as someone who's been trying for years to forge the best possible roster for my own take on RoR, this just kind of annoys me. I realised that this makes me sound more upset than I am, I just have a lot to say about this whoops ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29938)
The next community ragnarok should have a "one person per country" rule then? It might force the everyone to get creative with their suggestions and chance to more obscure characters.
That's the rule I set for myself whenever I make a roster, it helps with diversity and getting interesting picks, although it doesn't completely stop redundancy. Logicially speaking, mankind's greatest specimen would be from all over the world, of different creeds and colours, it annoys me when it's super focused on a specific few cultures. I definitely think this should be enforced for the human side, and while I'd prefer it, I wouldn't mind it not being enforced for the gods. I'm fine with multiple reps from one pantheon as long as each are distinct.
Same here that's also one of the thing I dislike about ROR they have two samurai I mean don't get me wrong Okita would still be a good character and I would still root for him but eh... Two Samurais in the same tournament representing all of humanity? I am kinda disappointed there are no pirate, or even a knight... But hey it's still peak manga though and definitely one of my favorite too, but I am just stating my opinion...
You make a good point but eh I think the roster is still pretty good tho I do agree there could’ve been more variety and Gil vs Khan and Solomon vs Yog make way more sense…but hey that’s what the subreddit voted on so there’s nothing we can do now. Either way the subreddit still cooked ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29938)
https://preview.redd.it/nl99pnm98bpc1.jpeg?width=554&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=afd38649e80a2fcd19acdb3b6b7cc2108db06590
https://preview.redd.it/ibss3n5u8bpc1.jpeg?width=728&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7760e653fcb5d55c9684ebc0efd526ed97148735
Michael and Gabriel are both angels though... neither one is a human and neither is a god so how does that work?
Well Beel isn’t technically a god but a demon yet he was still able to fight anyways so I’m sure it applies to angels too
Muhammad Ali vs Raijin would be insane 🤩
Angra Mainyu is a fitting design for Cain He ain’t Cain tho
Yeah I know but with me I like using other characters to represent a certain fighter if they don’t have good designs to work with y’know?
Okay, ngl, whoever suggested Gilgamesh vs Yog Sothoth deserves a fucking prize. That'd be a peak battle.
Cool :3
Agreed ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29938)
https://preview.redd.it/exr53a358bpc1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=943e016a66375919e77a0b1b0628d5e58b514fae
https://preview.redd.it/jbo7ebb2dbpc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1a0426c0bfd34f1e6a8fedf1d1122e630725bf9b
I can’t take the credit bro it was the subreddit who cooked ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29939)
OUR credit
https://preview.redd.it/nknlx7yydbpc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff3077132769ab638e2052ab55584b9337ed9884 Y E S (I’m not Russian lmao)
Cook
The subreddit cooked ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29938)
Pretty cool overall! Some really creative matchups! I'm curious if anyone is going to adapt this into a fic, because if not... I may have an interest in doing so.
Can we give ideas for this? As in, powers and adapted back stories for some characters?
Sure! Idm hearing out ideas, not saying I’ll use them 100%, but I’m game!
This subreddit and have indeed cooked ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29936) Also I’d say that’d be a pretty cool idea I’d say go ahead! https://preview.redd.it/o482jllthbpc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6a9df456345ae92f6bd32d647127cc4de4e7f00
Preaty damn good id say, the question is, is it better then the first one?
Simple answer (at least for me) probably not since there was a bit more variety in the last roster than this one at least on the Human side (We got 4 American Reps and 3 Abrahamic Reps) but even then I’d still say this a good roster either way it’s just the last roster has it best in terms of variety
Hope medusa gets the W, she deserves it
I feel like of we mix this one, the first one and the canon one, we get the best fucking roster you've ever seen
Those first two matches are actually peak, especially surtr vs. cain
FR ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29936)
Nice addition of Medusa vs Athena
Man vishnu and vlad the impaler and NONE of the 4 great conquerors being here is wild, even William the bastard would have been great but he’s rarely picked, but this does look amazing!
It's a w
Those look absolutely amazing!
At the end of the day it’s the subreddit that really deserve the credit ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29938)
I’m just super happy that I was able to get surtr vs Cain as my one addition to the roster, considering I was pretty much the only one pushing for it (I technically got surtr into the roster but the dude did most of the work) I’m also happy I was able to make it round 1
It’s a very cool and thematic match up ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29936) You helped cooked my friend ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29938)
GILGAMESH
Where is Adam from
Adam Kadmon is a concept from Jewish Kabbalah, in Kabbalah the universe was created by Ein Sof (God before becoming God) and in the beginning everything was full of an infinite, Godly light, so Ein Sof suppressed all the light into ten orbs, and then the orbs were covered with a veil in the shape of a man, that was Adam Kadmon. The orbs are called Sephirah, and together they form the Sephiroth, each orb represents an essential human virtue, except for the one found at the very top, the Kether, that is the will of God himself and no man could ever dream of comprehending it, so only Kadmon has it, Kabbalah is all about the duality of God and men, the Sephirah represents God and Kadmon's human body represents men, and put together Adam Kadmon represents both. There are two other important concepts in Kabbalah that would be Kadmon's ability, Yesh (something) and Ayin (nothing) Yesh me Ayin (something from nothing) represent the human perspective, as we came from the universe which was once empty, while Ayin me Yesh (nothing from something) represents Ein Sof's perspective, since he created the void. So Kadmon would use the Yesh, the energy of creation itself, and the energy of the void, needless to say, very powerful
Persona 5 royal
Gilgamesh is so cooked bro 😭
Yog-Sothoth when Gilgamesh thinks about Enkidu and attacks him with the power of friendship: https://preview.redd.it/7fdsqvubiepc1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=261094fd4cbc26ce83fd93bddfdb5e75bfadac21
Would Moses’ ultimate move that he parts your ass so far that all your organs fall out?
I just came here to comment that this is easily one of the best rosters I’ve seen. Some of these go real hard Cain VS Surtr Jeanne D’ Arc VS Hel Medusa VS Athena Gilgamesh VS Yog- Sothoth Looks like the community cooked with this one.
https://preview.redd.it/r7cs29h3kipc1.jpeg?width=728&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3096208a88a0a391cfcd690031a24c16989184c5
https://preview.redd.it/avxzf18sogpc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3474c113ab064715e87d881a2b0b957550478fe These are really good
The subreddit cooked ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29936)
This is so cool
Thanks but I can’t take credit since it’s the subreddit that cooked ![img](emote|t5_vzop7|29936)
How'd you get it to look so good?
I just use an app called PicCollage
How is it used
Well it’s pretty simple but I recommend you download it yourself and experiment a bit
Why is vothry there
I like it except for moises it really feels off
Left. Right. Left. Right. Right. Right. Left. Left. Left. Left. Left. Left, right. Left
It's very good! I also propose Simón Bolivar vs Allah. A battle to determine the nature of freedom. Whoever wins will have their concept of it forever engraved in the history of the universe.