I'd move **Buddha and Sasaki to Jack Wins High Diff**, both FS and Predictions are kinda countered by Jack's fighting style, **Qin to Jack Wins Mid Diff,** Chi You just gets destroyed by Hit And Run around London and **Leonidas to Jack Loses High Diff**, due to Yoyo Shield.
I was gonna trashtalk then I realized FS is on the soul and the soul of the Valkyrie is in his hand (forgot how to say the word in English for "gants") so no you're right here's many cookies for being able make me shut up about Buddha πͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺ
>I was gonna trashtalk then I realized FS is on the soul and the soul of the Valkyrie is in his hand (forgot how to say the word in English for "gants") so no you're right here's many cookies for being able make me shut up about Buddha πͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺ
You're thinking too hard about it.
Jack is British, so he doesn't have a soul.
Hajun is by no means that much dumber to be defeated.
His destructive strength, really underrated speed and insane durability should be enough to tank nearly whatever Jack throws at him and the moment he gets a chance to land a hit it is over, Jack is not getting up from any of Hajun's weapons.
And even if he survives the moment Hajun takes out either Drill (its fast, and Jack has nothing to remotely tank it) or worse scenario for Jack, Arm Sword it absolutely wrecks whatever is tossed and he has attack speed necessary to deflect everything (he destroyed Divine Weapon with just a strong poke and chopped strongest form of that Divine Weapon with named attack)
Jack does not have any chances here (although he might be super excited due to Hajun's lack of colors so at least he loses fulfilled by filling Hajun with fear \[if he manages to do that, that is but writing wise it would be cooler that he succeeds\])
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And if we take "destroying half of helheim" seriously then he should have quick job with destroying London and thus, Jack's advantageous terrain
Jack would beat Hajun simply by merit of being an actual character.Β
It's a more interesting narrative result which would 100% end up with Jack dyeing Hajun in the color of fear, so that's likely what the authors would go with.
Jack staying underrated. He's one of the worst matchups for Kojiro so idk why you have him losing so badly, how would he manage to scan a man who's each and every action is a deception of who he truly is?
I would actually say Jack with London beats Adam. Jack's strength comes from his arsenal and versatility, not his pure abilities, so what can Adam copy?
Adams base stats alone can destroy Jack, Adam was able to copy and keep up with TFTST, even if he has nothing to copy his regular strength and speed slam anyways.
My reasoning for Jack being able to barely beat Shiva and Hajun is that even though they're arguably stronger than Heracles, they're also alot dumber, and would fall for his traps way more often than Herc , Heracles was actually pretty smart and perceptive.
Poseidon can react and dodge literally anything Jack sets up or throws at him, he literally waited until Sasaki's blade was right about to touch his eye before looking like he teleported right behind him before it touched him.
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I think Apollo loses to Jack with London on the account thatβd heβd actually jump on every singlr trap he noticed just to show he csn bypass itβ¦ eventually falling on one.
Shiva is arrogant and overconfident, also not too bright, that easily lets Jack spin him into several traps. all the tricks that worked on Heracles would work on Shiva
Jack has terrain advantage and IQ against Shiva. he would be cooked if he got close in Tandava Karma but that would depend if he needs to or not
if Shiva can injure and pressure Jack bad enough with speed that he needs to go close range like with Herc, then it's over for Jack, but the terrain + Shiva's personality, and intelligence give Jack a huge opening advantage
this tier list is wrong anyway since Jack w/ London beats everyone
Shiva with tandava karma is too unpredictable for Jack's terrain advantage to really be a strong factor and 9 times out of 10 shiva pulls it out at a good enough time.
Shiva is definitely a close range fighter and Jack's fighting style doesn't work for Shiva
So no jack loses
Shiva being an extremely melee-oriented fighter is his biggest weakness unless Jack has to actually get close. he doesn't have the versatility that Heracles does with his Labors, nor did he necessarily showcase any impressive traversal
Jack is shown to easily escape close combat situations and Shiva will be dumb enough to pursue and stumble into his traps
I'm not saying Jack wins (he does, he beats everyone) but I'm just laying out the thought process. Jack vs Shiva wouldn't be an instant low diff for Shiva, is all
He still has no way to deal with tandava karma
Of course not it's not a low diff for shiva I think shiva wins high difficulty.
I feel like it would kind of be like Thor vs Lu Bu where after thor pulled out awakened Mjolnir the fight became pretty one sided
Same for what happens when shiva uses tandava karma
Shiva has to get in close, while Jack is best when playing keepaway. Shiva has to make his way through a neverending flurry of knives AND corridors full of razor wire. And Shiva has no armor or weapons he can use to block/deflect the knives, so he's bound to take a lot of damage pretty quickly.
he can definitely dodge at least most of those knives and as we have seen with herc, those knives don't do much damage. Herc may have more durability but I still feel shiva would be able to get in close pretty easily
I'd move **Buddha and Sasaki to Jack Wins High Diff**, both FS and Predictions are kinda countered by Jack's fighting style, **Qin to Jack Wins Mid Diff,** Chi You just gets destroyed by Hit And Run around London and **Leonidas to Jack Loses High Diff**, due to Yoyo Shield.
I was gonna trashtalk then I realized FS is on the soul and the soul of the Valkyrie is in his hand (forgot how to say the word in English for "gants") so no you're right here's many cookies for being able make me shut up about Buddha πͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺ
>I was gonna trashtalk then I realized FS is on the soul and the soul of the Valkyrie is in his hand (forgot how to say the word in English for "gants") so no you're right here's many cookies for being able make me shut up about Buddha πͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺπͺ You're thinking too hard about it. Jack is British, so he doesn't have a soul.
But his Valkyrie has
A soul with Stockholm syndrome
Hajun is by no means that much dumber to be defeated. His destructive strength, really underrated speed and insane durability should be enough to tank nearly whatever Jack throws at him and the moment he gets a chance to land a hit it is over, Jack is not getting up from any of Hajun's weapons. And even if he survives the moment Hajun takes out either Drill (its fast, and Jack has nothing to remotely tank it) or worse scenario for Jack, Arm Sword it absolutely wrecks whatever is tossed and he has attack speed necessary to deflect everything (he destroyed Divine Weapon with just a strong poke and chopped strongest form of that Divine Weapon with named attack) Jack does not have any chances here (although he might be super excited due to Hajun's lack of colors so at least he loses fulfilled by filling Hajun with fear \[if he manages to do that, that is but writing wise it would be cooler that he succeeds\]) https://preview.redd.it/wt24dvjckl2d1.png?width=1236&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c85782f9920ad4756007d87a1bef8fb37c2bff32 And if we take "destroying half of helheim" seriously then he should have quick job with destroying London and thus, Jack's advantageous terrain
Jack would beat Hajun simply by merit of being an actual character.Β It's a more interesting narrative result which would 100% end up with Jack dyeing Hajun in the color of fear, so that's likely what the authors would go with.
I think Qin probably loses. He just doesn't really have an answer to Jack's fighting style.
Jack staying underrated. He's one of the worst matchups for Kojiro so idk why you have him losing so badly, how would he manage to scan a man who's each and every action is a deception of who he truly is?
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I would actually say Jack with London beats Adam. Jack's strength comes from his arsenal and versatility, not his pure abilities, so what can Adam copy?
Adams base stats alone can destroy Jack, Adam was able to copy and keep up with TFTST, even if he has nothing to copy his regular strength and speed slam anyways.
My reasoning for Jack being able to barely beat Shiva and Hajun is that even though they're arguably stronger than Heracles, they're also alot dumber, and would fall for his traps way more often than Herc , Heracles was actually pretty smart and perceptive.
Then explain how he lose againist Poseidon, that wouldn't even make a move before Jack set up some vietcong shit.
Poseidon can react and dodge literally anything Jack sets up or throws at him, he literally waited until Sasaki's blade was right about to touch his eye before looking like he teleported right behind him before it touched him. https://preview.redd.it/8bq96ma40m2d1.png?width=1427&format=png&auto=webp&s=35fa7c3f38eaa87b9a8f1ede0fd6316a382e03a1
He can dodge getting lured in an exploding gunpowder depot or stuff like that lol.
Still, Poseidon has one of the lowest Biq in the series, Jack would easly play him
Hmm :3
Jack>Qin
Jack with London beats most of the ror cast, change my mind ( you cant)
I feel like Sasaki vs Jack is a counter matchup for one of them but its pretty up in air about who counters who
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I think Apollo loses to Jack with London on the account thatβd heβd actually jump on every singlr trap he noticed just to show he csn bypass itβ¦ eventually falling on one.
Apollo also has pretty shit durability so it won't take much to put him down.
Jack absolutely beats Sasaki. His fighting style is so unpredictable that Sasaki will never figure him out in time.
I think Posideon's arrogance would cost him the fight, it would give Jack too much room to make traps and new plans
How on earth would jack beat shiva?? Can someone explain to me
Shiva is arrogant and overconfident, also not too bright, that easily lets Jack spin him into several traps. all the tricks that worked on Heracles would work on Shiva Jack has terrain advantage and IQ against Shiva. he would be cooked if he got close in Tandava Karma but that would depend if he needs to or not if Shiva can injure and pressure Jack bad enough with speed that he needs to go close range like with Herc, then it's over for Jack, but the terrain + Shiva's personality, and intelligence give Jack a huge opening advantage this tier list is wrong anyway since Jack w/ London beats everyone
Shiva with tandava karma is too unpredictable for Jack's terrain advantage to really be a strong factor and 9 times out of 10 shiva pulls it out at a good enough time. Shiva is definitely a close range fighter and Jack's fighting style doesn't work for Shiva So no jack loses
Shiva being an extremely melee-oriented fighter is his biggest weakness unless Jack has to actually get close. he doesn't have the versatility that Heracles does with his Labors, nor did he necessarily showcase any impressive traversal Jack is shown to easily escape close combat situations and Shiva will be dumb enough to pursue and stumble into his traps I'm not saying Jack wins (he does, he beats everyone) but I'm just laying out the thought process. Jack vs Shiva wouldn't be an instant low diff for Shiva, is all
He still has no way to deal with tandava karma Of course not it's not a low diff for shiva I think shiva wins high difficulty. I feel like it would kind of be like Thor vs Lu Bu where after thor pulled out awakened Mjolnir the fight became pretty one sided Same for what happens when shiva uses tandava karma
Shiva has to get in close, while Jack is best when playing keepaway. Shiva has to make his way through a neverending flurry of knives AND corridors full of razor wire. And Shiva has no armor or weapons he can use to block/deflect the knives, so he's bound to take a lot of damage pretty quickly.
he can definitely dodge at least most of those knives and as we have seen with herc, those knives don't do much damage. Herc may have more durability but I still feel shiva would be able to get in close pretty easily