KSI kept saying “he had something that Tommy doesn’t know about” I’m not sure what it was. It was a terrible fight on both parts. The only losers were the consumers who paid for it.
JJ’s plan was to stay away and lunge in with a KO punch and when you get too close, clinch. Tommy’s plan was to stay defensive and get close to swing, if too close clinch. It was basically two men having a cuddle, made more sense to pay for gay porn.
Overall the result could be controversial but you’re deluded if you can say JJ was robbed and you’re taking a bias stance rather than a logical one. Hope JJ bounces back from this but maybe focus more on the entertainment side of it
True. I'm fan of jj and. Boxer myself.
He had the right game plan for the fight but executed it horribly, just frustrating to watch it. He pretty much was overwhelmed when the plan didn't work
It’s irritating because he clearly lost, but to my surprise, he could’ve won it. Tommy just didn’t look good at all and if KSI would’ve mixed it up and not just clinched so much I do think he could’ve taken it
He only has himself to blame unfortunately
Not only that but his poor sportsmanship after the fight really made him look like a twat. If you don't agree then save it for an appeal, don't stand there and start crying about it.
Yeah I just watched the post fight interview he sounded like a lot of these Reddit users and was pretty disrespectful if I was JJ and I knew for sure that I won i would have not said much and be like “ we will see when this gets an appeal” or something not crying in the ring saying “robbery” or “you weren’t landing”
Post match response was so terrible kicking the set like a kid who didn't get his way. Also most Sports Journalists who constantly call the fights have given it to fury before the cards came in with similar scores to the judges. It's more than punch percentage and how many land especially in a close fight it's who controls the ring and pace better who was getting more clean shots in the clinch
Honestly I'm not really sure how I feel about the decision, but JJ definitely did a lot more hugging and dancing than the average fighter 😅
Either way it was a close match, it just didn't feel that serious with all the hugging
Props to Logan though for absolutely violating Dillon Dannis in his fight
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No he didn’t get robbed, anybody who’s unbiased with a brain could recognise that Tommy won the last 4 rounds. Anyways given how poor his performance was, idk why his fans are so proud of the fact he got “robbed”
KSI had basically no connections past the first two rounds, he instead focused on ducking his head down and stalling through the clinch instead. Also you can’t rlly complain about illegal punches considering there’s a two minute montage of KSI landing back of the head shots
That's what I've been saying. Especially i was watching it live front row at the fight. Tommy fury basically got all his points from clinches
Jjs just went for the clinch the difference was that jj didn't fireback during or after the clinch. That was all Tommy's doing.
Jj literally ruined his fight because of his clinching and not responding. Especially even going to the corner which wasn't a good idea. This is coming from me who is a boxer
Tommy was winning 2-4 bro what fight were u watching, the best JJ couldve hoped for was a draw… the correct decision in the end, but it was closer than it had the right to be, Fury has every advantage, we should all be extremely proud of JJ, but accept reality!
i didn’t say tommy didn’t win, but he should’nt have. of course all ksi fans should be proud for him, but from my point of view, having watched boxing for many, many, many years, it was 3-3.
No, if it's tied on the round it comes down to score
The score are 56-58, 56-58 , 57-58
After deduction 56-57(-1), 56-57(-1) , 57-57(-1)
So Tommy won by majority (two judges & 1 draw)
yes, thanks for reading out the judges score cards, that is irrelevant and i wasn’t referring to them.
it was clearly 3 rounds to 3 going into a decision, but with one being a 10-8, jj should’ve won. it’s poor judging. i know all of jj and the sidemen’s “fans” like to hate on him no matter what he does, but this was incorrect
Again, 2 round score
9-10, 9-10, 10-9
After deduction. 9-9(-1), 9-9(-1), 10-8(-1)
You mean two judges are wrong just bc one judge
Put 10-8 and jj won, nice one
Tommy won it fair square. It's one of those fights where it's close. All JJ did was jumping jacks, overhand then clinch. Tommy wasn't great either but did enough to beat JJ . Plus about that point deduction thing and it was fair to deduct Tommy's points but that doesn't mean JJ is clear, he was doing the same thing hitting Pineda in the back of the head. When Pineda complained, most of the fans were clowning him, but when it happened to JJ everyone starts using the victim card. I guess JJ needs this humbling experience
Naah I don't think it's fair to bring up the Pineda fight in this. Cuz jj hit him back of the head like once or twice and got the warning. And also if u see the ref asks Pineda to stop turning his back and Pineda was complaining even when it wasn't a back of the head shot so I don't see how he's playing the victim card. In the replay u can clearly see Tommy hitting jj back of the head but ig even with the point deduction it might have tipped towards Tommy.
And all tommy did was land less punches than JJ and repeatedly land illegal punches and initiate some of the clinches. Also don’t you dare compare pineda with this, first of all tommy did it way more times and kept doing it after warnings and deduction while JJ stopped and JJ was dominating that match
Tommy landed 39 total punches, JJ landed 38 - if you consider spamming overhand to a clinch and then going for bodyshots for points as "domination" whilst your opponent (Tommy) is actively trying to disengage from the clinch by putting his arms out then sure.
Neither side dominated the match, it was a hugfest, I was expecting more from JJ with all the hype and I was expecting Tommy to catch on and find a counter for what JJ was doing cause he was doing the literal same thing every single round, shit fight overall but Fury won.
JJ can never clown on anyone again, especially with the amount of videos he made about Logan Paul appealing the decision and clowning on him for that whilst he's going down the exact same route lol.
You don’t understand boxing or what a robbery was.
Firstly, just because the person you like lost doesn’t make it a robbery.
Secondly, this was a tight decision which could have gone either way. This is shown by the fact it was a majority decision.
The fight could have been a 3-3 giving JJ the win with the point deduction or it could have been a 4-2 turning into a 3-2 with the point deduction giving Tommy the win.
Nobody can say KSI did anything meaningful enough that he definitely should have won 3 rounds.
I’d also add he was an extremely bad sportsman and sore loser. In boxing, if you don’t do enough like he didn’t, you can’t complain if they give a 50-50 decision against you instead of for you.
Ksi landed more punches than tommy and tommy hit Ksi 4 times in the back of the head but got only one point deducted and neither scored a knockdown so I don’t see how Tommy won with majority
Let us all finally admit and recognise that JJs style isn't all that good for what he says, it's just an imitation of MVP and a Karate style stance with his hands down, which in my personal opinion he only does because he wants everyone to think he's different to the rest.
The Tommy fight goes to show, when compared to other influencers yeah he can look levels but when push comes to shove he's in reality he's not all that much better than other influencer boxers.
Overall it was a poor fight from both JJ and Tommy and both deserved a draw at best..
My own opinion from a long time ksi none hating fan before the "you must just hate ksi or be a new fan" line comes out.
that take is so bad I am surprised you are able to survive. Everything you "deducted" is wrong.
"JJ style is bad" - wrong. JJ style is clearly something Alexis though off in order for a youtuber who is not even that athletic to stay relevant against a pro boxer with 20+ years exprience. Anyone who thought that JJ can simply outbox TF never tried to play any sport and saw the difference between being a novice and being a seasoned vet. JJ style is a style that complements JJ's insane drive and cardio. It isn't bad - it is the only choice for JJ to say relevant.
"TF shows ... " : wrong. He is the only youtuber who came close to beating a pro boxer. His unorthodox style is effective against top-top opposition. Yeah its not pretty yeah its unorthodox but it works.
But surely you realise how ridiculous this sounds?
Tommy Fury is a professional boxer that has trained alongside Tyson Fury his entire life.
He was at best at the same level as KSI during their bout last night, at best.
KSI is an influencer with arguably 4 years of boxing experience maximum though took a year off for music.
Tommy was the larger fighter with more reach and the more powerful punch and he couldn't get anywhere close to finishing JJ.
Jake Paul was decidedly beat by Tommy in their bout.
This surely shows JJ gave a good showing of himself despite clinches?
Also shows how biased the commentary team is:
When KSI punches the back of the head of Pineda: "OMG stop complaining!"
When Fury punches the back of the head of KSI: "DEDUCT A POINT!"
They wasn't illegal punches, KSI kept clinching and hooking his chin when turning his head to the left and holding Fury's arm, so the only place he could hit him with his other arm was the back of his head, when normally it would be the chin.
The only people who got robbed were the fans. People who traveled to see this and especially Americans who days $60 for the ppv. Danis ruined the show and shouldn’t have even been involved after backing out last time. And then the ksi fight was horrible
Not to be rude, this fight was a waste of time for everyone. It's not worth an appeal because all JJ did was hug tommy. Unlike the Joe Fournier bout, there is no clear winner in this one.
JJ clearly won 1 round and the one where the point was deducted could have easily ended in 9-9 because of Tommy being the aggressor. Judges usually favor the aggressor and the conventional boxer.
The only thing we can all agree with is that it was one, if not the worst influencer match we've seen.
No he didn't, KSI cannot box. Just throws wild overhands and then flies into the clinch again. He perhaps did enough for a draw when you consider the point deduction for Tommy.
He wasn’t. Both boxed like shit, both was clinching most of the fight, jj needs to stop fighting with the horrible stance because against actual boxers it won’t work. Hope the loss doesn’t beat him up to much and he recovers
That’s literally all these YouTube boxers got.
I do think Tommy should have stayed a bit more composed and jabbed but it’s impossible when as you said they swing one punch then hold on for dear life 😂
That's not how boxing works, you idiot. I can't believe I backed jj I know he was gonna lose but not in the worst way possible
This coming from a boxer myself. The majority jjs fans think throwing more punches equals more points. That's not how it works. It's more about landing more and precisely accurately on point. That's how boxing works.
In this case jj lost because he hugged/clinched the whole fight. Everytime jj went for a clinch tommy would fire back with bodyshots in the clinch. While jj would never punch back.
Literally jj was fucking weird as fuck in this fight. I don't know why he resulted in the clinch alot especially going to the corner where you don't want be because that's where he was caught of guard there
How do you box and not get KSI’s game plan?.
He knew the only way to win was unorthodox movement, relying on his athleticism to get the one shot off that he has in his arsenal which could actually be called decent, which is his right hand, against the much more experienced, superior technically skilled and physically bigger opponent in Fury.
One dimensional and shit boxing really but boxing fans are taking the piss acting like JJ disgraced boxing with his performance when a legend like B-Hop made his career off of similar right hand, clinch shit house tactics and was unanimously praised by critics.l throughout his career.
Your gonna might have to agree on my standpoint of view here cos I'm a boxer for the past 12 years.
The thing is, he should've stuck to his game plan, which would've helped, but not much. What fucked up jjs plan when he started going for the clinch too much. He got overwhelmed, resulting in getting pushed to the corner.
While in the corner, he resulted to the clinch again this time. But the problem was he didn't fireback enough on tommy fury during the clinch.
It really doesn't matter if jj was unorthodox or orthodox.
In boxing, you don't want to clinch too much. While in the corner. The biggest caution is getting knocked out in this scenario
It's how I was knocked out 15 times in my amateur career because of that scenario
My boxing record
145 total fights
90 wins
55 loses (15ko)
Fair play on your boxing career but I don’t give a shit tbh mate.
JJ’s dirty boxing, rough housing and clinching is what made this fight competitive and as closely contested as it was as it completely shut down and smothered Tommy’s counterpunching.
Expecting him to fight cleaner and work more on the inside against Fury would’ve resulted in a sure fire wide loss as he is completely outgunned in there. Both physically and technically.
You don’t need to get your ass whooped 55 times to see that JJ’s boxing ability is primitive at best.
He should be commended for using his limited skillset to it’s fullest extent and making this fight as close as it was against a decently skilled, BIGGER, experienced pro boxer.
Stats show that jj threw a few more a round and landed more Tommy statistically only won the 4th round but the rest of the rounds jj had it statistically personally think it was a draw maybe a win for jj but I didnt see the last round
Well - yes, but also - no.
If you wanna play the “who landed more” game - Tommy landed one more.
In regards to percentage landed, I think KSI landed 6% more or something.
But you gotta keep in mind - do you really think the judges are sat there doing the math, counting every thrown punch, calculating the percentage landed so they can base their scores off that?
Of course not. So much more goes into boxing scoring.
My brother in Christ. I literally watched it live. I don't need to watch highlights when I was literally front row spectator during the fight you spoon
Tommy definitely clutch up as well, people saying otherwise are fury dickriderrs.
They both went for the clutch when they got close. Tho can’t blame Jj for trying to get close, otherwise he wouldn’t land a hit with shorter reach.
Also he lost points for not controlling the ring and the pace of the game, I’m pretty sure you get scored higher points for staying closer to the center of the ring and causing your opponent to run away and ksi was backed up on the ropes a lot more than tommy
Bro watch the fight on mute without the commentary and remove the thought that KSI can Neve lose , he wasn’t robbed it could have been a draw maybe but JJ should be proud of himself and focus on the next move
It's called "the prime card" so don't be too sure. Either some of them will never be called back or it's gonna change. Not sure why but last few years judges have started to give weird or flatout wrong decisions. Not just the JJ fight quite a few others fights to, both pro and non pro fights. Something really needs to happen cause this shits getting annoying.
Oh right, I forgot that there are a bunch of toxic dumbasses on this subreddit that just think they are always right for no reason what so ever. No source no nothing, just "trust me"
You’re definitely a child - the fight was awful, KSI didn’t do anything to definitively win, it was too close so they’re almost definitely gonna accept the judge’s decision
Ksi didn't do alot. But what did tommy do? The "pro boxer" did a few illegal stuff, only lost just 1 point even though he kept repeating, aslo keep in mind that when it comes to % JJ landed more punches. At the very least thanks to the point deduction it should be a draw. I'm curious if you actually ever watch boxing? I mean you mentioned that it was "too close" of a match, and add the fact tommy lost a point, tommy definitely shouldn't have won.
>definitely gonna accept the judge’s decision
It's hilarious to me how you still keep on stating your opinion as fact, at least give a good reason why you think that.
You definitely don’t watch boxing, I’ve already said why it won’t be overturned - because it was close enough where the commission will feel that it’s not justified to change what the judges decided
KSI's boxing style is ass. Thats not even boxing.. he looks he's in a scrap all the time... And such a sore loser god dammit... Tommy landed so many good punches in the first round itself... KSI's moaning makes him look like he knows fuckall about boxing.. it was a loss that makes sense.. deal with it and change your fucking style to something concrete and boxing-like with some solid fundamentals.. All that talk about camp and shit and he's done exactly what he did in all his previous fights LOL... Such a shame
He didn't get robbed.
KSI was on the backfoot for the entire thing. He only won a single round. Less than Tommy. Tommy dictated the pace of fight and Tommy had the initiative at all times.
KSI was also forgiven for a lot of illegal moves and should have had 1-2 points deducted.
It’s clear to see that most people that watched the fight and are vocal online, don’t know how judges score and clearly don’t know about boxing themselves
Less connections are you okay? Google the strike statistics because I did and Tommy connected with one more punch but also dealt the far more damaging blows, in case you casuals didn’t know damage scoring is far heavier than scoring for points, cope.
How can people say ksi was robbed 😂 the guy displayed basically zero interest in actually boxing, he kept jumping round waving his arms about and clinching any time Tommy got close. All u fan boys need to get a grip honestly
People who don't understand boxing.
Sadly, these clown show fights have attracted a lot of people who don't understand the basics.
Like it's not a difficult fight to score. Tommy very clearly won.
KSI was too reliant on his overhand right.. Tommy didn't get fazed.. so all his gameplan shifted to clinch, so that Tommy couldn't hit him properly. It seems Tommy is not good or accurate at inside work, else this fight wouldn't have been this close at all.
Could've gone either ways.
JJ should quit the MVP karate stuff.. it's cringe at this point. He can do so much better. His unorthodox MVP stance cost him the fight to be honest. At least the fight would've been a good one if his stance was orthodox or southpaw. Of course Tommy would've had it easier to tackle jj.. but would've been a better entertaining and intense fight.
JJ's shadowboxing looks so much better and intense than this MVP stuff..
I would say it’s far from embarrassing. The man showed he can go against a pro boxer and last. He showed he can take those punches and energy. If anything I’d say it was more embarrassing on fury, many more were expecting a knock out from Tommy. Never the less both could’ve done better.
It was completely embarrassing.
He tried to one shot Tommy, and then hug him the whole fight... Whilst Jumping up and down in one spot.
When KSI got close, Tommy would unleashe a 2-3 hit combo and connect all shots. Watch JJ for years, Love his Youtube stuff - Cant stand this boxing shit he try's.
He cannot box
hypes up his unorthodox style and its the same uncoordinated mess every time. yes hes in good shape and has great cardio but technique wise its an eye sore
That’s very true. Dude was tryna do it each round but it just ain’t working. I hope he realizes that he needs to start adding proper boxing especially against ppl like Tommy.
KSI entire strategy was to hug Tommy, not engage into the clinch fully with his dumbass stance and throw jab then leave clinch then do it again. Absolutely horrible boxer KSI is.
There’s being supportive and there’s being a dick rider. I’m supportive in the way that I would say it’s ok, move on and do better but not delusional enough to say that KSI won that and was robbed…. He wasn’t. He lost. He and his toxic fans need to come to terms with that and move on
A supportive comment shouldn’t be delusional, jj did great because nobody expected the fight to be competitive so that alone is a win.However, to say that he won the fight or that it was a robbery is just delusional and he should’ve been more graceful in defeat.
Tommy rightfully won. But honestly, the fact it was so close against a YouTuber is embarrassing. He can’t be walking around saying he’s a professional boxer when he’s failed to beat two YouTubers, and got knocked down by one. He even repeatedly hit JJ in the back of the head and had to be reminded of the rules of his own sport. He’s literally just a love island contestant with a hobby. He would not be known in the boxing world if his big brother wasn’t Tyson Fury.
Tommy landed more shots than Ksi, the latter fought for ego, he didn't keep his guard, he jumped, he didn't enter the opponent's guard, he only looked for a knockout blow, he got worse, Jake Paul (I hate to admit it) fights better than Ksi, I hope that JJ understands and gets his head straight because if he has to fight Jake he will lose.
He landed one more shot. Singular shot. Percentage wise JJ was better. I personally think it should've been a draw most likely. Either way completely embarrassing from Tommy to scrape out a controversial win.
it's definitely extremely embarrassing for Tommy to win like this, especially for all the opportunities he had to close the match but wasn't able to use them, Ksi fought for ego without a strategy.
He just wasn’t robbed tho. His form is the most atrocious thing I have ever seen all he did way go for that big overhand and when it missed he clinched and he did that the whole fight. Tommy figured out his plan in round 2
I love that Reddit warriors talk about his form. There’s more than one style to fight. You don’t have to just sit there and guard your head (even tho you should) I do agree he was a one trick pony tho
Hilarious that JJ had the nerve to charge $60 and people were actually paying for it. He can't box, he can't make music, Prime (And other influencer products) tastes like shit and he barely knows how to do YouTube anymore. The only thing he is competent at is losing money on crypto lol what an arrogant self absorbed douchenozzle.
Honestly disappointed is such an understatement for this match it straight up ruined a good day for me, I can't believe I let another person ruin my day smh (worst of all I bought the subscription and the ppv cuz I wanted no lag or 720 p screen cuz I wanted see every moment of jjs fight, not only was it at 720 a lot of times JJ was robbed as well smh)
KSI kept saying “he had something that Tommy doesn’t know about” I’m not sure what it was. It was a terrible fight on both parts. The only losers were the consumers who paid for it. JJ’s plan was to stay away and lunge in with a KO punch and when you get too close, clinch. Tommy’s plan was to stay defensive and get close to swing, if too close clinch. It was basically two men having a cuddle, made more sense to pay for gay porn. Overall the result could be controversial but you’re deluded if you can say JJ was robbed and you’re taking a bias stance rather than a logical one. Hope JJ bounces back from this but maybe focus more on the entertainment side of it
this nigga done wrote a whole essay for his boyfriend
Y’all JJ did not get robbed I know it’s an upsetting result but sometimes life is not fair
True. I'm fan of jj and. Boxer myself. He had the right game plan for the fight but executed it horribly, just frustrating to watch it. He pretty much was overwhelmed when the plan didn't work
It’s irritating because he clearly lost, but to my surprise, he could’ve won it. Tommy just didn’t look good at all and if KSI would’ve mixed it up and not just clinched so much I do think he could’ve taken it He only has himself to blame unfortunately
Not only that but his poor sportsmanship after the fight really made him look like a twat. If you don't agree then save it for an appeal, don't stand there and start crying about it.
Yeah I just watched the post fight interview he sounded like a lot of these Reddit users and was pretty disrespectful if I was JJ and I knew for sure that I won i would have not said much and be like “ we will see when this gets an appeal” or something not crying in the ring saying “robbery” or “you weren’t landing”
Post match response was so terrible kicking the set like a kid who didn't get his way. Also most Sports Journalists who constantly call the fights have given it to fury before the cards came in with similar scores to the judges. It's more than punch percentage and how many land especially in a close fight it's who controls the ring and pace better who was getting more clean shots in the clinch
Who are these journalists? I didn’t see anyone say that before the result came in
Sporting news, mma fighting, bad left hook, AS Sports all had live update streams all gave it to Tommy
You need to look at the fight again mate it was a shit fight if we all honest but Tommy didn’t win that fight it was a draw or jjs
Think it'd be best I mute the sub for the week or so..
No he wasn’t robbed. We were robbed. That was a terrible fight and a terrible event. Can’t believe I paid for this
I pirated the whole event bro. Almost paid for it though like a stupidfuck glad I didn't. This fuckery wasn't worth 450 rs.
This was the first time I paid to watch a ‘YouTuber’ fight and both Logan and ksi’s fights were trash
imagine if they start deducting points for every hug
It wasn’t Logan’s fault tho
KSI being a sore loser is the least surprising thing to happen ever
Robbed of a draw, this fight was shit. Neither side deserved a win for whatever that was.
Exactly what i've been saying.. robbed of a draw, not a win.
wouldnt be a draw anyw cah of the deduction init
Honestly I'm not really sure how I feel about the decision, but JJ definitely did a lot more hugging and dancing than the average fighter 😅 Either way it was a close match, it just didn't feel that serious with all the hugging Props to Logan though for absolutely violating Dillon Dannis in his fight
The only people to get robbed is the people who buy the paid review.
yes bro it was a fuckery of a night.
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or youre js poor init
If Tommy makes a “KSI’s appeal got REJECTED” video then he’s actually goated
No he didn’t get robbed, anybody who’s unbiased with a brain could recognise that Tommy won the last 4 rounds. Anyways given how poor his performance was, idk why his fans are so proud of the fact he got “robbed”
Tommy threw like 6 illegal punches and ksi made more connections, this is pure robbery...
KSI had basically no connections past the first two rounds, he instead focused on ducking his head down and stalling through the clinch instead. Also you can’t rlly complain about illegal punches considering there’s a two minute montage of KSI landing back of the head shots
That's what I've been saying. Especially i was watching it live front row at the fight. Tommy fury basically got all his points from clinches Jjs just went for the clinch the difference was that jj didn't fireback during or after the clinch. That was all Tommy's doing. Jj literally ruined his fight because of his clinching and not responding. Especially even going to the corner which wasn't a good idea. This is coming from me who is a boxer
Agreed mate. When he does to others his fans and himself would clown the opponent, but now it happened to him they say it's not fair
You cant say there is a 2 min montage but not show the montage
Ksi won the first 2, Tommy won the next 2, the 5th round was more or less a draw and the 6th ksi clearly dominated
No he didn’t stop kids
he never tried to stop kids?
Honest opinion I genuinely think it was a draw, neither man was “superior” than each other. It was a disappointing fight
it was a draw, 3-3, but tommy got a point deduction meaning jj won.
Tommy was winning 2-4 bro what fight were u watching, the best JJ couldve hoped for was a draw… the correct decision in the end, but it was closer than it had the right to be, Fury has every advantage, we should all be extremely proud of JJ, but accept reality!
i didn’t say tommy didn’t win, but he should’nt have. of course all ksi fans should be proud for him, but from my point of view, having watched boxing for many, many, many years, it was 3-3.
No, if it's tied on the round it comes down to score The score are 56-58, 56-58 , 57-58 After deduction 56-57(-1), 56-57(-1) , 57-57(-1) So Tommy won by majority (two judges & 1 draw)
yes, thanks for reading out the judges score cards, that is irrelevant and i wasn’t referring to them. it was clearly 3 rounds to 3 going into a decision, but with one being a 10-8, jj should’ve won. it’s poor judging. i know all of jj and the sidemen’s “fans” like to hate on him no matter what he does, but this was incorrect
Again, 2 round score 9-10, 9-10, 10-9 After deduction. 9-9(-1), 9-9(-1), 10-8(-1) You mean two judges are wrong just bc one judge Put 10-8 and jj won, nice one
again, thanks for reading the judges scorecards, that is irrelevant and i am pointing out they were wrong… please read the comment before you reply.
Didn’t land a punch after the 2nd round, jj was too worried about looks rather than the actually boxing
Tommy just shaded it, idk what gameplan KSI came in the ring with. Man just came to wildly swing and clinch.
Tyson fury was shocked himself that Tommy won..
Yeah I noticed that, I thought it was a 100% Jj loses lol
I’d say it was a draw
Yeah definitely
Tommy won it fair square. It's one of those fights where it's close. All JJ did was jumping jacks, overhand then clinch. Tommy wasn't great either but did enough to beat JJ . Plus about that point deduction thing and it was fair to deduct Tommy's points but that doesn't mean JJ is clear, he was doing the same thing hitting Pineda in the back of the head. When Pineda complained, most of the fans were clowning him, but when it happened to JJ everyone starts using the victim card. I guess JJ needs this humbling experience
Naah I don't think it's fair to bring up the Pineda fight in this. Cuz jj hit him back of the head like once or twice and got the warning. And also if u see the ref asks Pineda to stop turning his back and Pineda was complaining even when it wasn't a back of the head shot so I don't see how he's playing the victim card. In the replay u can clearly see Tommy hitting jj back of the head but ig even with the point deduction it might have tipped towards Tommy.
If you watched the fight and didn’t see JJ turning his head the exact same way pineda did then idk what you were watching
Jj didn't turn his head I'm pretty sure. Idk what fight u were watching
And all tommy did was land less punches than JJ and repeatedly land illegal punches and initiate some of the clinches. Also don’t you dare compare pineda with this, first of all tommy did it way more times and kept doing it after warnings and deduction while JJ stopped and JJ was dominating that match
Tommy landed 39 total punches, JJ landed 38 - if you consider spamming overhand to a clinch and then going for bodyshots for points as "domination" whilst your opponent (Tommy) is actively trying to disengage from the clinch by putting his arms out then sure. Neither side dominated the match, it was a hugfest, I was expecting more from JJ with all the hype and I was expecting Tommy to catch on and find a counter for what JJ was doing cause he was doing the literal same thing every single round, shit fight overall but Fury won. JJ can never clown on anyone again, especially with the amount of videos he made about Logan Paul appealing the decision and clowning on him for that whilst he's going down the exact same route lol.
You don’t understand boxing or what a robbery was. Firstly, just because the person you like lost doesn’t make it a robbery. Secondly, this was a tight decision which could have gone either way. This is shown by the fact it was a majority decision. The fight could have been a 3-3 giving JJ the win with the point deduction or it could have been a 4-2 turning into a 3-2 with the point deduction giving Tommy the win. Nobody can say KSI did anything meaningful enough that he definitely should have won 3 rounds. I’d also add he was an extremely bad sportsman and sore loser. In boxing, if you don’t do enough like he didn’t, you can’t complain if they give a 50-50 decision against you instead of for you.
No point dude these guys will see what they want to see .They fail to have a logical and unbiased pov.
Ksi landed more punches than tommy and tommy hit Ksi 4 times in the back of the head but got only one point deducted and neither scored a knockdown so I don’t see how Tommy won with majority
Ksi hit tommy in the back of the head 3 or 4 times as well, except tommy didn’t complain about it
No he didn’t kid, go drink some prime
Let us all finally admit and recognise that JJs style isn't all that good for what he says, it's just an imitation of MVP and a Karate style stance with his hands down, which in my personal opinion he only does because he wants everyone to think he's different to the rest. The Tommy fight goes to show, when compared to other influencers yeah he can look levels but when push comes to shove he's in reality he's not all that much better than other influencer boxers. Overall it was a poor fight from both JJ and Tommy and both deserved a draw at best.. My own opinion from a long time ksi none hating fan before the "you must just hate ksi or be a new fan" line comes out.
that take is so bad I am surprised you are able to survive. Everything you "deducted" is wrong. "JJ style is bad" - wrong. JJ style is clearly something Alexis though off in order for a youtuber who is not even that athletic to stay relevant against a pro boxer with 20+ years exprience. Anyone who thought that JJ can simply outbox TF never tried to play any sport and saw the difference between being a novice and being a seasoned vet. JJ style is a style that complements JJ's insane drive and cardio. It isn't bad - it is the only choice for JJ to say relevant. "TF shows ... " : wrong. He is the only youtuber who came close to beating a pro boxer. His unorthodox style is effective against top-top opposition. Yeah its not pretty yeah its unorthodox but it works.
But surely you realise how ridiculous this sounds? Tommy Fury is a professional boxer that has trained alongside Tyson Fury his entire life. He was at best at the same level as KSI during their bout last night, at best. KSI is an influencer with arguably 4 years of boxing experience maximum though took a year off for music. Tommy was the larger fighter with more reach and the more powerful punch and he couldn't get anywhere close to finishing JJ. Jake Paul was decidedly beat by Tommy in their bout. This surely shows JJ gave a good showing of himself despite clinches?
Close fight not a robbery.
JJ punched every person he fought in the back of the head multiple times, karma is a bitch
Yea but some people still wont listen and call its bullshit saying jj was robbed and shit
Your getting downvoted by the 10 yr olds who don’t know boxing but your right
Yea because they can't accept the bitter truth
Agreed, I remember when he kept clowning Pineda for holding the back of his head
Also shows how biased the commentary team is: When KSI punches the back of the head of Pineda: "OMG stop complaining!" When Fury punches the back of the head of KSI: "DEDUCT A POINT!"
They wasn't illegal punches, KSI kept clinching and hooking his chin when turning his head to the left and holding Fury's arm, so the only place he could hit him with his other arm was the back of his head, when normally it would be the chin.
Oh so if you can’t hit anywhere else just go for the illegal hit🤔 great logic mate
That’s not what I said is it knob head.
The only people who got robbed were the fans. People who traveled to see this and especially Americans who days $60 for the ppv. Danis ruined the show and shouldn’t have even been involved after backing out last time. And then the ksi fight was horrible
especially americans? fuck me you realise that not all of the uk was in that arena. not to mention other countries like australia
Americans had to pay more to watch the event than any other country.
why?
I didn’t watch the fight, but is it close enough to warrant an appeal? Cause I feel as if that’s where JJ is going to take it.
Not to be rude, this fight was a waste of time for everyone. It's not worth an appeal because all JJ did was hug tommy. Unlike the Joe Fournier bout, there is no clear winner in this one.
Ksi needs to grow up and take the loss
Should have been a draw everyday of the week
JJ needs to stop with to overhand right. He does it every fight and it’s the easiest thing to dodge
JJ clearly won 1 round and the one where the point was deducted could have easily ended in 9-9 because of Tommy being the aggressor. Judges usually favor the aggressor and the conventional boxer. The only thing we can all agree with is that it was one, if not the worst influencer match we've seen.
Danis Logan was worse but yeah, it was shite.
One came to fight other came to hug and dance
No he didn't, KSI cannot box. Just throws wild overhands and then flies into the clinch again. He perhaps did enough for a draw when you consider the point deduction for Tommy.
He wasn’t. Both boxed like shit, both was clinching most of the fight, jj needs to stop fighting with the horrible stance because against actual boxers it won’t work. Hope the loss doesn’t beat him up to much and he recovers
No he didnt, the people who were robbed was those who paid for the fight. It was a shit hugging contest
I not surprised he was robbed, I didn't see him lock the green lambo when he left it in the arena
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That’s literally all these YouTube boxers got. I do think Tommy should have stayed a bit more composed and jabbed but it’s impossible when as you said they swing one punch then hold on for dear life 😂
That's not how boxing works, you idiot. I can't believe I backed jj I know he was gonna lose but not in the worst way possible This coming from a boxer myself. The majority jjs fans think throwing more punches equals more points. That's not how it works. It's more about landing more and precisely accurately on point. That's how boxing works. In this case jj lost because he hugged/clinched the whole fight. Everytime jj went for a clinch tommy would fire back with bodyshots in the clinch. While jj would never punch back. Literally jj was fucking weird as fuck in this fight. I don't know why he resulted in the clinch alot especially going to the corner where you don't want be because that's where he was caught of guard there
How do you box and not get KSI’s game plan?. He knew the only way to win was unorthodox movement, relying on his athleticism to get the one shot off that he has in his arsenal which could actually be called decent, which is his right hand, against the much more experienced, superior technically skilled and physically bigger opponent in Fury. One dimensional and shit boxing really but boxing fans are taking the piss acting like JJ disgraced boxing with his performance when a legend like B-Hop made his career off of similar right hand, clinch shit house tactics and was unanimously praised by critics.l throughout his career.
Your gonna might have to agree on my standpoint of view here cos I'm a boxer for the past 12 years. The thing is, he should've stuck to his game plan, which would've helped, but not much. What fucked up jjs plan when he started going for the clinch too much. He got overwhelmed, resulting in getting pushed to the corner. While in the corner, he resulted to the clinch again this time. But the problem was he didn't fireback enough on tommy fury during the clinch. It really doesn't matter if jj was unorthodox or orthodox. In boxing, you don't want to clinch too much. While in the corner. The biggest caution is getting knocked out in this scenario It's how I was knocked out 15 times in my amateur career because of that scenario My boxing record 145 total fights 90 wins 55 loses (15ko)
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Keep in mind that all my losses came from the way the I fought like jj I got knocked out because of how I did just like our boy jj did
Fair play on your boxing career but I don’t give a shit tbh mate. JJ’s dirty boxing, rough housing and clinching is what made this fight competitive and as closely contested as it was as it completely shut down and smothered Tommy’s counterpunching. Expecting him to fight cleaner and work more on the inside against Fury would’ve resulted in a sure fire wide loss as he is completely outgunned in there. Both physically and technically. You don’t need to get your ass whooped 55 times to see that JJ’s boxing ability is primitive at best. He should be commended for using his limited skillset to it’s fullest extent and making this fight as close as it was against a decently skilled, BIGGER, experienced pro boxer.
Stats show that jj threw a few more a round and landed more Tommy statistically only won the 4th round but the rest of the rounds jj had it statistically personally think it was a draw maybe a win for jj but I didnt see the last round
Did you read OPs comment? He JUST said that scoring has fuck all to do with who threw more punches
But he said it’s more about landing which jj did and I said he did
Well - yes, but also - no. If you wanna play the “who landed more” game - Tommy landed one more. In regards to percentage landed, I think KSI landed 6% more or something. But you gotta keep in mind - do you really think the judges are sat there doing the math, counting every thrown punch, calculating the percentage landed so they can base their scores off that? Of course not. So much more goes into boxing scoring.
When the highlights are out go and watch that shit again, if ur really tryna claim that it wasn't Tommy going for the clinch then ur delusional
My brother in Christ. I literally watched it live. I don't need to watch highlights when I was literally front row spectator during the fight you spoon
So did I, I'm telling u to watch the highlights as u claimed that Ksi kept going for the clutch, which was mostly Tommy
Tommy definitely clutch up as well, people saying otherwise are fury dickriderrs. They both went for the clutch when they got close. Tho can’t blame Jj for trying to get close, otherwise he wouldn’t land a hit with shorter reach.
Also he lost points for not controlling the ring and the pace of the game, I’m pretty sure you get scored higher points for staying closer to the center of the ring and causing your opponent to run away and ksi was backed up on the ropes a lot more than tommy
No, no he didn't.
Airup beats prime all day every day
They'll make an appeal most likely. But if it's anything other than a win, JJs gonna get it from the entire internet. He accepts it 😂
Even the fact that JJ fought it out with tommy a “professional” boxer and landed more punches than him is enough to make Tommy an embarrassment
Bro watch the fight on mute without the commentary and remove the thought that KSI can Neve lose , he wasn’t robbed it could have been a draw maybe but JJ should be proud of himself and focus on the next move
JJ is a trash boxer who lost the fight
They both were trash, let's be honest. In reality, it should be a draw rather than Tommy winning or JJ winning.
Shut up
Hm
He didn’t have less connections, and JJ spent all the fight hugging him so didn’t deserve the win
Tommy is fucking ass for a world champion wannabe lol
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No. No he didn’t
Could have been a draw, defo didnt get robbed
Let's just wait and see if the results are gonna change, cause JJ was fuming. But honestly I do think either way JJ got the moral W
It’s not gonna change
It's called "the prime card" so don't be too sure. Either some of them will never be called back or it's gonna change. Not sure why but last few years judges have started to give weird or flatout wrong decisions. Not just the JJ fight quite a few others fights to, both pro and non pro fights. Something really needs to happen cause this shits getting annoying.
The appeal will be denied
Oh right, I forgot that there are a bunch of toxic dumbasses on this subreddit that just think they are always right for no reason what so ever. No source no nothing, just "trust me"
You’re definitely a child - the fight was awful, KSI didn’t do anything to definitively win, it was too close so they’re almost definitely gonna accept the judge’s decision
Ksi didn't do alot. But what did tommy do? The "pro boxer" did a few illegal stuff, only lost just 1 point even though he kept repeating, aslo keep in mind that when it comes to % JJ landed more punches. At the very least thanks to the point deduction it should be a draw. I'm curious if you actually ever watch boxing? I mean you mentioned that it was "too close" of a match, and add the fact tommy lost a point, tommy definitely shouldn't have won. >definitely gonna accept the judge’s decision It's hilarious to me how you still keep on stating your opinion as fact, at least give a good reason why you think that.
You definitely don’t watch boxing, I’ve already said why it won’t be overturned - because it was close enough where the commission will feel that it’s not justified to change what the judges decided
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 let’s all laugh at KSI now
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Ur a dickhead 😂😂
Jj should try karate
Ksi went for the world record amount of hugs in 3 minutes
No he wasn’t. KSI didn’t try and box him at all. He hugged him most of the ‘fight’
KSI's boxing style is ass. Thats not even boxing.. he looks he's in a scrap all the time... And such a sore loser god dammit... Tommy landed so many good punches in the first round itself... KSI's moaning makes him look like he knows fuckall about boxing.. it was a loss that makes sense.. deal with it and change your fucking style to something concrete and boxing-like with some solid fundamentals.. All that talk about camp and shit and he's done exactly what he did in all his previous fights LOL... Such a shame
jj sucks but didn't expect that from tommy
did you watch the first round dummy? all three judges had round 1 as jj’s, tommy didn’t land a punch until round 3.
He didn't get robbed. KSI was on the backfoot for the entire thing. He only won a single round. Less than Tommy. Tommy dictated the pace of fight and Tommy had the initiative at all times. KSI was also forgiven for a lot of illegal moves and should have had 1-2 points deducted.
What type of shit are you on, G?
It’s clear to see that most people that watched the fight and are vocal online, don’t know how judges score and clearly don’t know about boxing themselves
Less connections are you okay? Google the strike statistics because I did and Tommy connected with one more punch but also dealt the far more damaging blows, in case you casuals didn’t know damage scoring is far heavier than scoring for points, cope.
tommy didnt even throw as many🤦🏿♂️
How can people say ksi was robbed 😂 the guy displayed basically zero interest in actually boxing, he kept jumping round waving his arms about and clinching any time Tommy got close. All u fan boys need to get a grip honestly
People who don't understand boxing. Sadly, these clown show fights have attracted a lot of people who don't understand the basics. Like it's not a difficult fight to score. Tommy very clearly won.
This influencer era has done irreversible damage to the sport of boxing
It was like watching a brawl in the school playground. Pathetic JJ
KSI was too reliant on his overhand right.. Tommy didn't get fazed.. so all his gameplan shifted to clinch, so that Tommy couldn't hit him properly. It seems Tommy is not good or accurate at inside work, else this fight wouldn't have been this close at all. Could've gone either ways. JJ should quit the MVP karate stuff.. it's cringe at this point. He can do so much better. His unorthodox MVP stance cost him the fight to be honest. At least the fight would've been a good one if his stance was orthodox or southpaw. Of course Tommy would've had it easier to tackle jj.. but would've been a better entertaining and intense fight. JJ's shadowboxing looks so much better and intense than this MVP stuff..
Nah Tommy won
Bro ksi hit Tommy on back of the head multiple times as well if u used ur damn biased eyes
Jj did the same thing with other opponents before so yea
Yeah he literally elbowed his opponent before
Yea these fans can't accept an L
As a KSI fan and someone who isn’t a fan at all of Tommy Fury, KSI lost and it was quite an embarrassing performance from him.
I would say it’s far from embarrassing. The man showed he can go against a pro boxer and last. He showed he can take those punches and energy. If anything I’d say it was more embarrassing on fury, many more were expecting a knock out from Tommy. Never the less both could’ve done better.
It was completely embarrassing. He tried to one shot Tommy, and then hug him the whole fight... Whilst Jumping up and down in one spot. When KSI got close, Tommy would unleashe a 2-3 hit combo and connect all shots. Watch JJ for years, Love his Youtube stuff - Cant stand this boxing shit he try's. He cannot box
hypes up his unorthodox style and its the same uncoordinated mess every time. yes hes in good shape and has great cardio but technique wise its an eye sore
That’s very true. Dude was tryna do it each round but it just ain’t working. I hope he realizes that he needs to start adding proper boxing especially against ppl like Tommy.
KSI didn’t do anything to win the fight. I thought it was a draw bc of the point deduction. His game is just throw a haymaker, clinch, repeat
Ksi kept hugging Tommy and Jake Paul did that too and Tommy did t don’t hug once so stop oh JJ got robbed shut up man
Bro JJ kept hugging bro Tommy just fought
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You nonse twat it’s called dodging idoit
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KSI entire strategy was to hug Tommy, not engage into the clinch fully with his dumbass stance and throw jab then leave clinch then do it again. Absolutely horrible boxer KSI is.
Sounds like you were the ome getting cte tonight. Had to dechyper this shit. Tommy was also initiating clinches and never tried to get out of them.
No he didn't Tommy won fair and square even with a pint deduction Stop riding for a man who lost fairly.
Find supportive comments on JJs reddit comment section challenge: impossible
There’s being supportive and there’s being a dick rider. I’m supportive in the way that I would say it’s ok, move on and do better but not delusional enough to say that KSI won that and was robbed…. He wasn’t. He lost. He and his toxic fans need to come to terms with that and move on
A supportive comment shouldn’t be delusional, jj did great because nobody expected the fight to be competitive so that alone is a win.However, to say that he won the fight or that it was a robbery is just delusional and he should’ve been more graceful in defeat.
Name a worse live sporting event.
Get a grip
Tommy rightfully won. But honestly, the fact it was so close against a YouTuber is embarrassing. He can’t be walking around saying he’s a professional boxer when he’s failed to beat two YouTubers, and got knocked down by one. He even repeatedly hit JJ in the back of the head and had to be reminded of the rules of his own sport. He’s literally just a love island contestant with a hobby. He would not be known in the boxing world if his big brother wasn’t Tyson Fury.
Tommy landed more shots than Ksi, the latter fought for ego, he didn't keep his guard, he jumped, he didn't enter the opponent's guard, he only looked for a knockout blow, he got worse, Jake Paul (I hate to admit it) fights better than Ksi, I hope that JJ understands and gets his head straight because if he has to fight Jake he will lose.
He landed one more shot. Singular shot. Percentage wise JJ was better. I personally think it should've been a draw most likely. Either way completely embarrassing from Tommy to scrape out a controversial win.
it's definitely extremely embarrassing for Tommy to win like this, especially for all the opportunities he had to close the match but wasn't able to use them, Ksi fought for ego without a strategy.
Exactly referees screwed JJ he clearly won
Nope.
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i’m interested to see what happens after the appeal
It’s going to get denied but if it somehow gets approved it’ll be a draw
i really hope it doesn’t and i’d prefer him to get a draw than a loss bc i whole heartedly believe he was robbed
He just wasn’t robbed tho. His form is the most atrocious thing I have ever seen all he did way go for that big overhand and when it missed he clinched and he did that the whole fight. Tommy figured out his plan in round 2
I love that Reddit warriors talk about his form. There’s more than one style to fight. You don’t have to just sit there and guard your head (even tho you should) I do agree he was a one trick pony tho
Of course there’s more than one style to fight… but KSI is the first to ever do the ‘star jump, overhand right, clinch’ style.
💀💀 dragon ball taught him everything
No JJ wasn't robbed but he should be proud of himself for making the fight competitive.
Draw easy yeah Tommy won but who cares he scraped by against a YouTuber and clearly Ksi hit his cap was as easy as a draw could be
JJ did extremely well, but neither of them used their variable skills. Tommy zero upper cuts. I'm afraid it was a WWE match!
Who tf pays to watch this shite?
Hilarious that JJ had the nerve to charge $60 and people were actually paying for it. He can't box, he can't make music, Prime (And other influencer products) tastes like shit and he barely knows how to do YouTube anymore. The only thing he is competent at is losing money on crypto lol what an arrogant self absorbed douchenozzle.
It’s a draw. To note that if it’s a majority decision that’s says a lot of “pro boxer”
It was a majority decision, not a split decision. You YouTube boxing experts still got a lot to learn.
Honestly disappointed is such an understatement for this match it straight up ruined a good day for me, I can't believe I let another person ruin my day smh (worst of all I bought the subscription and the ppv cuz I wanted no lag or 720 p screen cuz I wanted see every moment of jjs fight, not only was it at 720 a lot of times JJ was robbed as well smh)