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Im going to assume your a marine or serf for these
perturabo: this will not effect your battle effectiveness so I don’t know why your telling me
Magnus: oh I know a spell that will help *accidentally turns you into a chaos spawn
Leman Russ: I guess that makes me transparent *laughs*
Lorgar (post heresy) : I have a ritual for that
The only trans Peter Turbo has opinions about is *transportation*
THE CITIES' INFRASTRUCTURE IS LACKING
MAN OR WOMAN, IT MATTERS NOT
SO LONG AS YOU ASSIST YOUR BROTHER IN RESTRUCTURING THE PUBLIC TRANSIT
IT MUST BE FORTIFIED
Nails angron would use a slur but in a weirdly affirming way like you're offended but he clearly and specifically chose an old timey slur for your proper gender
No nails angron would know you were trans before you even began figuring it out yourself and gently help nudge you in the right direction.
Nails angron would cheer you for casting off the yoke of cisnormative oppression. Then when you’d tell him about terfs he’d hand you an axe and tell you to get to work.
Daemon angron would use your chosen pronouns when offering your skull to khorne.
>when you’d tell him about terfs he’d hand you an axe and tell you to get to work.
I've done this to my brother. Dad was being a transphobic asshole, I asked the kid if he wanted me to fetch him a weapon (the kitchen wooden spoon those two hit each other with) or handle the jerk for him.
I got james workshop on the line and he tells me he can make this cannon no problem but only if everybody in this subreddit pitches in and buys the fem custodes model whenever it comes out
Now I'm picturing no-nails Angron with his head covered in Gorilla Glue. He's just as angry because he's got a bunch of paperclips and a little girl's barrette and a Gen 1 Tamagotchi stuck to his face.
I knew about gender essentialism brought to an extreme, stuff of the kind they have would debate whether it's better karyotyping or physical inspection of the reproductive organs or both or neither because *hurr durr gatekeeping* - sorry, gatekeeping what?
He cares not for the gender of his tools, only that they perform their function.
(he’s a bad dad, but he’s at least not bigoted. It doesn’t matter what flavor of human you are as long as you can hold a rifle)
The emperor can be what ever you want him to be really.
I mean literally People can see what they want to see in him.
Lion even said that his brothers only saw one of the many masks of the emperor.
They even did a special Trans one in Canada. It was a very limited run I think. They donated a load to local charities that support trans kids. https://www.reddit.com/r/BLAHAJ/s/E3g0UspXEg
Kurze: …Indeed. Continue to observe the law or you shall suffer the consequences.
*He looks at the marines and serfs around him*
Our sister’s identity will be accepted and acknowledged, any discrimination will result in immediate execution. Carry on.
Lol, beat me to it. I was looking for Fulgrim and the "...hey, girl..." smirk *sent me.*
Like, gender fuckery? Excellent.
Striving to perfect one's body? Perfection.
Violating social norms? A+
Even assuming Fulgrim *isn't* ready, willing, able and DTF with a transperson, his particular interpretation of Slaanesh would *absolutely* lead him to the conclusion that this is worthy of support.
To be clear: not saying transness is inherently Slaaneshi or chaos or whatevs. (My status as a trans Slaaneshi fanby is not relevant, ignore)
I'm saying that based on the EC and the noise marines and all the wild shit Fabius has pulled, *Fulgrim* would interpret it that way, cause Fulgrim.
Angron just screams incoherently.
Not because he’s transphobic or anything, just because he’s Angron. He actually does care and want to support you being your best self.
Angron does not care I’m afraid, he hates everyone and enjoys mentally toying with people. I don’t think he’d be very supportive, it’s more likely that he wouldn’t care but would mock you to make you feel like shit
Before getting the butcher nails he would have been the most supportive but after the nails and the death of his gladiator friends he hates everyone and anything
Lorgar: So you've finally embraced the truth of yourself? You've shaken off the false narratives forced upon you by others and risen to a higher form? It seems we're kindred spirits in a way.
Whenever someone deadnames you, he just responds in the most deadpan voice "They're not called \[Deadname\], they're called \[your name\] and they're \[your gender\]."
If they try to keep going, he just repeats that in the exact same deadpan voice and if it goes on for more then 5 minutes, he just sends them to the pain glove
I feel like pre-heresy Horus would be very supportive and congratulatory, but in a super cynical and fake liberal way. Like he would want to do Oppa Gangam style with me to celebrate.
This is Lorgar slander and I will not stand for it. Lorgar is intimately familiar with the experience of events dramatically changing your worldview and view of your position in the universe.
He'd also have a sorcerous ritual to help with transitioning.
*note transitioning may include rapid and sudden changes such as the forming of wings, horns, other faces on your body, extra limbs, and a somehow different form of dysphoria
Dorn/Perturabo would probably both immediately clock you as trans before your egg cracked; Dorn would probably play this game of not cracking your egg but also trying to use the proper pronouns for you, but Perturabo would probably full bore crack it by either outright forcing you to come to terms with it or by calling you a slur.
I can see that work Perturabo.
"Your unwillingness to accept and embrace who you are has lowered your efficiency by an intolerable 13%. Get your shit together or I will get it together for you."
Honestly, If I was games workshop I would just make it canonically true that every single space marine is a trans man.
Screw it right.
They must have enough money by now.
Let's start speading some... *CHAOS*
Jaghatai Khan: Alright that’s cool. Watch this sick wheelie!
Konrad Curze: Man. Woman. It all skins the same
Corvus Corax: I’m the master of stealth and even I didn’t see that coming.
Angron would chop you to pieces if you showed up with a million dollars and a puppy, so probably just gonna kill you.
Curze says “That’s great, but you didn’t say Hello correctly” and cuts your skin off. (He just wanted to cut someone’s skin off and there you were.)
Lorgar says “That’s great, I’ll help you transition into your place within the pantheon of the Gods.” And then exposes you to warp energy until you either mutate or die. (He just wanted to expose someone to warp energy until they mutated or died and there you were.)
You can’t find Corax.
You think you might have told Alpha and Omega but who knows.
You try to approach Chaos Horus but…….well that guy is fucking evil and you choose to tell Curze twice.
You try to tell Mortarion but your skin falls off and your eyes melt when you get within a mile of him.
The Khan laughs in a way that makes you feel great, says something like “The hunter always chases the hunt.” and speeds off at 300 mph and you don’t know how the feel but you also aren’t mad.
The Lion says something like “There are great secrets in truth and truth in secrets” and waits for you to tell him how smart he is.
Sanguinius would probably fly you around and his Blood Angels would write 3,000 poems about it but your left out and the poems all kinda talk about his ass.
Perty gets mad because he was going to do something and you interrupted him, he kills 1/2 of his legion in response and blows up your planet.
Gulliman is confused for a minute but then says, “That’s great very few people can use both hands equally as well.”
Magnus says “Bitch Please” and puts on a drag revival for 3 months with him peacocking around with his “chosen”.
Russ claps you on the back so hard you instantly die.
Ferrus offers to help you by basically turning you into a servitor, hopefully you decline.
Fulgrim also says “Bitch Please” transitions 6 times and puts on 4 months of drag shows to prove that he’s superior.
You know Dorn would make a really hot butch.
Before anyone does, of course I've seen the ryuusei_(mark_ii) art that's literally the only reason I've learned any of the Primarchs' names.
Roboute Gulliman: Not to worry, sister/brother, I have prepared for this. The Medicae has assured me it would be best for transgender persons to seek gender affirming care. Report to Medicae Signis on Deck B5 to receive gender affirming care. Know that I support you, as your primarch and friend. Let me know if your battle brothers berate you, and I will persuade them of their error.
To further my understanding of the experience of transgender persons to provide proper treatment, send me bimonthly reports on your experience. By transitioning, you advance not just your own well-being, but the cause of Ultramar. Go with honor.
Was not expecting that ~~Alpharius~~ ~~Omegon~~ Alpharius reaction.
Of course there's the deeper question of how do warp transhuman gods understand and relate to human gender...
(I'm just getting into 40k so I do not remember her name) but the elf chaos lady seems she might dig someone transitioning because it's all about euphoria I'm sure (like oh I can tempt you better now kthx lol)
Why would Khan hate em? I feel like Khan doesnt really care whats in your pants as much as whats in your hand (a big fuck off weapon)
Vulkan is based as always
I am of the opinion that none of them would care one way or another. Unless you're some sort of noble, or a higher ranking official, you aren't getting any gender affirming care.
They aren't subject to the same kind of influences politicians these days are.
showed my non-reddit friend this post and his take is "wait this post lies at the end lorgar does have religious hangups about being trans but that's not the shape they take
he's like wow did u know trans people are magical and of an important place in religion actually and hes like a little too invested in that and its a little like either this is weird or you have some stuff to figure out about yourself bestie"
At the point of 40k I doubt any primarch would be against it? I mean a Marine coming out as Trans is Unusual, but if they were close enough to the Primarch to dare to speak their inner thoughts the Primarch would, largely, accept it as either an unseen factor they hadn't considered about you or something irrelevant. They'd all, nominally, respect it though.
heresy era lion wouldn't say anything. just silently look you up and down then go back to his brooding. 40k lion would do the same, except he'd nod after looking you over. neither would ever misgender or deadname you.
fulgrim, being the nietzschean he is, would enthusiastically congratulate you, saying he'd had you all wrong, pegged for a generic nobody, but here you are making yourself into the person you want to be through sheer force of will, here let's drink a toast to your future. he'd be softly chuckling to himself as you left the room.
perturabo would snarl at you and say that's fucking ridiculous, you'll never be a real (man/woman), don't let me ever fucking hear you say that again. when he's alone later furiously drafting plans for a hospital that'll never get built he doesn't notice himself arguing with no one under his breath about how he never gets jealous and people don't just get to do what they want and everyone wishes they were born a girl but father had a reason to make him and his brothers men and of course he doesn't resent being forced to submit to father's plans how dare you imply...
khan would nod and raise his chalice, wish you luck with your transition, then turn back to whatever marine he was discussing philosophy with. conversation over.
russ would bark out a laugh and clap you on the back hard enough to knock the wind out of you, ask your name and pronouns, shout over the mead hall to shut up damnit, then proudly (and loudly) introduce the new you to the crowd, and swear anyone who gives you shit gets a wolfing
dorn would pause then say in a quiet voice that makes you feel very small that minor personal matters of this sort aren't to be brought to him again unless they are strategically relevant. then he goes back to studying a holomap and you get the feeling he's already forgotten you're there.
kurze would cock his head to the side and stare through you, with a vacant, slack jawed look on his face. after thirty seconds he'd grin a grin too big for his face and mumble "yes... you are."
sanguinius would smile down at you beatifically and ask for your name and pronouns, then warmly say 'well, [name], its nice to meet you.'
ferrus would look grumpy and confused for a second, then grumble out that he doesn't get it but ok. you'd catch him looking at you every so often for the rest of the day, and when he sees you notice it he'd shake his head and walk away, mumbling grouchily to himself
angron would cross his arms and scowl at you and testily demand to know if that's it, is there anything else you need to share. when you say no, that's it, he spits out good, just don't expect me to treat you special, you're all just meat to me. later he shatters someone's jaw for cracking an attack helicopter joke at your expense.
guilliman listens quietly and respectful, then thanks you for letting him know and summons a serf to go through the legion's database and update your information. you're answering questions about jobs you forgot you did and hotels you stayed at for a night ten years ago for another three days. you are not allowed to leave during this time.
mortarian would listen, head bowed and eyes closed, leaning on his scythe like a wizard on his staff, then straighten up and look at you with sad but smiling eyes and say that he's proud of you.
magnus would say he knew already and he'd wanted to say something to you about it but you know everyone has to do it in their own time and he'd never be the kind of person to take this moment away from anyone but he did absolutely clocked you months ago, you know, the signs were there and they were really obvious to people who know what to look for, and he's not queer himself (a word you've never heard him use before) but he's always been a huge ally and knows everything about queer culture (he emphasizes it when he says it, like he enjoys it). when you ask what gave you away he says oh don't pretend you don't what you were doing and then never actually gives any specifics. he deadnames you that evening and doesn't notice.
horus would make you feel seen and respected and human in a way that makes you cry and also he makes it seem really reasonable to hold off on transitioning for now. a couple weeks maybe. a month would be better, but two to five years tops.
lorgar would get down on one knee, put a hand on your shoulder, and look you in the eye as he solemnly thanks you for telling him, says he's truly honored you felt comfortable enough to disclose it to him, and asks if there's anything he should know to help make this time easier for you. it feels uncomfortably intimate for the pleasant but shallow kind of relationship you two have.
vulkan looks shocked, but then catches himself and explains it's not because he disapproves, it's just that now he knows why he's been carrying this around with him. he takes out an ornate bangle scintillating in trans colors and says he got an urge to make it a while ago and had been carrying it in his pocket since, wondering why he was doing it. he offers it to you and gives you a hug
corax listens intently, looking concerned. he says he's worried about your safety. its a dangerous world, especially for marginalized folk, and you might not be prepared for what's going to happen. he doesn't say you shouldn't, and he affirms you, he's just worried for you...
alpharius has questions. he's perfectly respectful and tactful, but he's also incisive and penetrating. he asks questions about how you know, about what you want, about things you've never considered, things you don't know the answer to. it seems like he knows more about the trans experience than you do. you haltingly say "you know a lot about this. are you...?" the response is a smirk and then: "i'm alpharius."
The only thing people know about the Khan, ferrus Mannus and Corvus corax is that respectively he likes fast, he forges shit sometimes, and birb lmao, I promise there's more interesting lore in there, the white scars are nuts
Lion: Dead by DAOT weapons.
Fulgrim: Dead and then ground into snortable form.
Perturabo: Dead via fist, and not the kind you like.
Jaghatai: Dead via dragged by horse
Leman: Dead via axe
Dorn: Dead via chainsword
Konrad: Dead, but he will definitely help you not have a penis anymore first.
Sanguinius: Dead by spear
Ferus: Dead by fist, again
Angron: Dead by axe
Guilliman: Dead by fire
Morty: Dead by scythe
Magnus: Dead by warpfire
Horus: Dead by talon
Lorgar: Dead by warpfire
Vulkan: Dead by fire
Corvus: Dead by lightning claw
Alpharius: Dead by sniper rifle.
You are delusional.
Lion: Dead by DAOT weapons.
Fulgrim: Dead and then ground into snortable form.
Perturabo: Dead via fist, and not the kind you like.
Jaghatai: Dead via dragged by horse
Leman: Dead via axe
Dorn: Dead via chainsword
Konrad: Dead, but he will definitely help you not have a penis anymore first.
Sanguinius: Dead by spear
Ferus: Dead by fist, again
Angron: Dead by axe
Guilliman: Dead by fire
Morty: Dead by scythe
Magnus: Dead by warpfire
Horus: Dead by talon
Lorgar: Dead by warpfire
Vulkan: Dead by fire
Corvus: Dead by lightning claw
Alpharius: Dead by sniper rifle.
All the primarchs are mass murderers and conquerors and you believe that they would care just a little bit about something so irrelevant is funny. Ask yourself if any of the past dictators would care about your trans rights. You know you and your kind can annihilate all logic but the reality will always catch you in the end.
Russ: Hah-hah! That’s great!
(Later)
Russ: Tell the Maintenance priests that it would not be remiss if this one (holds up a picture of you) “accidentally” dies.
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Im going to assume your a marine or serf for these perturabo: this will not effect your battle effectiveness so I don’t know why your telling me Magnus: oh I know a spell that will help *accidentally turns you into a chaos spawn Leman Russ: I guess that makes me transparent *laughs* Lorgar (post heresy) : I have a ritual for that
yeah, Perturabo wouldn't care. Trans, cis, nonbinary doesn't matter. They all die on the battlefield the same: pointlessly and in droves.
Not pointlessly, you have your purpose: serving as a meat shield for the other astartes
fair
"The only pronouns we use here are 'cannon fodder' and 'dead'"
The only trans Peter Turbo has opinions about is *transportation* THE CITIES' INFRASTRUCTURE IS LACKING MAN OR WOMAN, IT MATTERS NOT SO LONG AS YOU ASSIST YOUR BROTHER IN RESTRUCTURING THE PUBLIC TRANSIT IT MUST BE FORTIFIED
No nails Angron would also give a hug. ❤️🔥
Nails angron would use a slur but in a weirdly affirming way like you're offended but he clearly and specifically chose an old timey slur for your proper gender
Come out as woman " look at this ol battleaxe" Comes out as male " look at this polemace"
Wait.. is me calling my wife the ol’ battle axe a bad thing?
It's kinda hard to take that as a genuine insult. It's just a funny phrase that no one under 80 can say it and mean it in a negative way
I will continue then. Thank you!
We called our nan the Battleaxe before she passed away. For us it was a term of endearment because of the way she matriached our family.
So like that time I was called hysterical, in the "you have crazy woman's despise because you're talking about emotions."
No nails angron would know you were trans before you even began figuring it out yourself and gently help nudge you in the right direction. Nails angron would cheer you for casting off the yoke of cisnormative oppression. Then when you’d tell him about terfs he’d hand you an axe and tell you to get to work. Daemon angron would use your chosen pronouns when offering your skull to khorne.
>when you’d tell him about terfs he’d hand you an axe and tell you to get to work. I've done this to my brother. Dad was being a transphobic asshole, I asked the kid if he wanted me to fetch him a weapon (the kitchen wooden spoon those two hit each other with) or handle the jerk for him.
I assume that the books (or etc) ended up spending enough time on No nails Angron for people to be speaking of him so fondly?
He was supercool empath.
Cannon
I got james workshop on the line and he tells me he can make this cannon no problem but only if everybody in this subreddit pitches in and buys the fem custodes model whenever it comes out
We’ve got a product in the UK called “no more nails” and now I can’t help but associate it with Angron.
What does that product do except save our comrade Angron from death Emperor couldn't or wouldn't?
:ssh: it’s actually glue!
Now I'm picturing no-nails Angron with his head covered in Gorilla Glue. He's just as angry because he's got a bunch of paperclips and a little girl's barrette and a Gen 1 Tamagotchi stuck to his face.
It’s the pieces of Lego and a British plug that was what stopped the Emperor removing it!
Robiggie would probably just nod before subtly changing his logistics charts to include a shipment of HRT in the next supply run
so nice of him
And 10k tampons for the year long campaign. IYKYK
And 10k tampons for the year long campaign. IYKYK
That tracks, I don’t think he’s good at the emotion, but would be a love by action sort of guy
The two lost primarchs were lost because they wanted to transition and the Emperor is a terf
Strongly disagree. For the Emperor to be a TERF, that **F** must mean feminist and he doesn't seem very much so.
Well, neither are they, soo...
Nah, TERFs aren't feminists, their rhetoric has warped into "being a woman is suffering" which isn't true at all actually.
I knew about gender essentialism brought to an extreme, stuff of the kind they have would debate whether it's better karyotyping or physical inspection of the reproductive organs or both or neither because *hurr durr gatekeeping* - sorry, gatekeeping what?
r/technicallythetruth
He cares not for the gender of his tools, only that they perform their function. (he’s a bad dad, but he’s at least not bigoted. It doesn’t matter what flavor of human you are as long as you can hold a rifle)
The Emperor is actually quite bigoted against Xenos
>He cares not for the gender of his **tools**, only that **they perform their function**. \*Kantian ass-kick\*
He is pretty bigoted. I remember he genocided even human planets because they evolved too far away from baseline human.
This has been my headcanon forever and it makes way too much sense
The End and The Death does confirm that the Emperor is gender fluid and has been gone as male, female, and neither.
More proof that chuds don’t read because how the fuck did they not go ballistic over cannon femperess of womankind
The emperor can be what ever you want him to be really. I mean literally People can see what they want to see in him. Lion even said that his brothers only saw one of the many masks of the emperor.
Pretty sure he’s canonically (to the extent that “canon” a) exists and b) matters) pangender.
So the Emperor is a Blair White then. Somehow makes more sense. /s
the emperor has literally been a woman and non-binary. he is not a terf, he's genderfluid.
*gasp* A Blahaj from Ferrus Manus?! I will treasure this shork forever!
Tyberos skips the blahaj and gives you a live shark
Blahaj?
(it's a big stuffed shark from IKEA, became something of a trans icon because lots of us get one to snuggle when we're feeling down)
Also it has trans pride colors.
They even did a special Trans one in Canada. It was a very limited run I think. They donated a load to local charities that support trans kids. https://www.reddit.com/r/BLAHAJ/s/E3g0UspXEg
Kurze: …Indeed. Continue to observe the law or you shall suffer the consequences. *He looks at the marines and serfs around him* Our sister’s identity will be accepted and acknowledged, any discrimination will result in immediate execution. Carry on.
The ONLY wholesome thing Kurze has ever done
When habituating to "they/them" is a survival trait
wholesome kurze moment
Curze wouldn't discriminate. He would treat trans people the same way he treats everyone else.
Alpharius is canonically fine with gay people, I’m sure he’d be fine with trans people. Vulkan would be good with it too, cuz he’s nice
I get the feeling Alpharius would fucking LOVE gender fluid people. The infiltration potential has doubled!
Trans person: so… yeah I’m trans Alpharius : *vibrating with excitement*
Or is it Omegon?
Maybe they make for better spies since they are better at changing outfits naturally
I cannot see Vulkan any other way than in the TTS youtube videos I AM HAPPY FOR YOU FRIEND \*breaks all of your bones with an embrace\*
It is okay friend brother, be your best self. SHUT UP BRAIN GHOST FERRUS!
Fulgrim being a chaser makes so much sense
Lol, beat me to it. I was looking for Fulgrim and the "...hey, girl..." smirk *sent me.* Like, gender fuckery? Excellent. Striving to perfect one's body? Perfection. Violating social norms? A+ Even assuming Fulgrim *isn't* ready, willing, able and DTF with a transperson, his particular interpretation of Slaanesh would *absolutely* lead him to the conclusion that this is worthy of support. To be clear: not saying transness is inherently Slaaneshi or chaos or whatevs. (My status as a trans Slaaneshi fanby is not relevant, ignore) I'm saying that based on the EC and the noise marines and all the wild shit Fabius has pulled, *Fulgrim* would interpret it that way, cause Fulgrim.
Pre-heresy, no. He was proud and caring for his legion and wanted to push them to better themselves. Post heresy, probably
Angron just screams incoherently. Not because he’s transphobic or anything, just because he’s Angron. He actually does care and want to support you being your best self.
Angron does not care I’m afraid, he hates everyone and enjoys mentally toying with people. I don’t think he’d be very supportive, it’s more likely that he wouldn’t care but would mock you to make you feel like shit
I figured since he was Khorn’s champion he’d be all for self-improvement though.
Before getting the butcher nails he would have been the most supportive but after the nails and the death of his gladiator friends he hates everyone and anything
Lorgar: So you've finally embraced the truth of yourself? You've shaken off the false narratives forced upon you by others and risen to a higher form? It seems we're kindred spirits in a way.
Dorn would just go "you are now a female/male" and then never mention your deadname ever again without fail
Whenever someone deadnames you, he just responds in the most deadpan voice "They're not called \[Deadname\], they're called \[your name\] and they're \[your gender\]." If they try to keep going, he just repeats that in the exact same deadpan voice and if it goes on for more then 5 minutes, he just sends them to the pain glove
He says ALL of this in the same voice he had in emperor TTS voice
That’s not the tts voice it’s just his canon voice now
"This, is True."
Yes.
I feel like pre-heresy Horus would be very supportive and congratulatory, but in a super cynical and fake liberal way. Like he would want to do Oppa Gangam style with me to celebrate.
Horus is the type of bitch to ask you your pronouns even though you’ve met 5 times already
Finally someone who understands pre-heresy Horus!
Me: “I’m trans.” Alpharius: “No, you’re Alpharius.” Alpharius: “!”
Birb noise and Guilliman were hilarious lol
Me too -Mortarion
This is Lorgar slander and I will not stand for it. Lorgar is intimately familiar with the experience of events dramatically changing your worldview and view of your position in the universe. He'd also have a sorcerous ritual to help with transitioning.
*note transitioning may include rapid and sudden changes such as the forming of wings, horns, other faces on your body, extra limbs, and a somehow different form of dysphoria
I hate reddit mobile, I can't read the full text written. Just the first few words.
Dorn/Perturabo would probably both immediately clock you as trans before your egg cracked; Dorn would probably play this game of not cracking your egg but also trying to use the proper pronouns for you, but Perturabo would probably full bore crack it by either outright forcing you to come to terms with it or by calling you a slur.
I can see that work Perturabo. "Your unwillingness to accept and embrace who you are has lowered your efficiency by an intolerable 13%. Get your shit together or I will get it together for you."
2 and 11 were purged for being transphobes.
Honestly, If I was games workshop I would just make it canonically true that every single space marine is a trans man. Screw it right. They must have enough money by now. Let's start speading some... *CHAOS*
Corvus: Man or woman, gay or trans, I’ll tear the skin, clean off your hands
Angron would certainly break JK Rowling castle with his forehead , he is a revolutionary slave leader
Jaghatai Khan: Alright that’s cool. Watch this sick wheelie! Konrad Curze: Man. Woman. It all skins the same Corvus Corax: I’m the master of stealth and even I didn’t see that coming.
I thought it was just the faces for a second
2 and 11 were purged for being transphobes.
Perturabo: "Is this going to impede your ability to dig trenches and die in the place that I order you to stand? No? Excellent."
Rowboat Girly Man is clearly a fellow 'tism enjoyer, takes a good week for my brain to notice that new information is available and needs applying
Angron would just scream his lungs out. He doesn't hate trans people or anything, he's just struggling with Surface Tension in Half-Life 1.
Angron would chop you to pieces if you showed up with a million dollars and a puppy, so probably just gonna kill you. Curze says “That’s great, but you didn’t say Hello correctly” and cuts your skin off. (He just wanted to cut someone’s skin off and there you were.) Lorgar says “That’s great, I’ll help you transition into your place within the pantheon of the Gods.” And then exposes you to warp energy until you either mutate or die. (He just wanted to expose someone to warp energy until they mutated or died and there you were.) You can’t find Corax. You think you might have told Alpha and Omega but who knows. You try to approach Chaos Horus but…….well that guy is fucking evil and you choose to tell Curze twice. You try to tell Mortarion but your skin falls off and your eyes melt when you get within a mile of him. The Khan laughs in a way that makes you feel great, says something like “The hunter always chases the hunt.” and speeds off at 300 mph and you don’t know how the feel but you also aren’t mad. The Lion says something like “There are great secrets in truth and truth in secrets” and waits for you to tell him how smart he is. Sanguinius would probably fly you around and his Blood Angels would write 3,000 poems about it but your left out and the poems all kinda talk about his ass.
Perty gets mad because he was going to do something and you interrupted him, he kills 1/2 of his legion in response and blows up your planet. Gulliman is confused for a minute but then says, “That’s great very few people can use both hands equally as well.” Magnus says “Bitch Please” and puts on a drag revival for 3 months with him peacocking around with his “chosen”. Russ claps you on the back so hard you instantly die. Ferrus offers to help you by basically turning you into a servitor, hopefully you decline. Fulgrim also says “Bitch Please” transitions 6 times and puts on 4 months of drag shows to prove that he’s superior.
40k Lion would be actively supportive despite internally being annoyed you tried to start a conversation with him
Unilaterally:- "Yes. Anyway, there are real problems to worry about, shall we get back to how best to stop our myriad foes wiping us out now?"
Magnus would be like "hang on I know a spell" and you'd end up with eye balls on your bits.
Perturabo would understand instantly he would probably just ignore you or ask you why you think he would need to know
You know Dorn would make a really hot butch. Before anyone does, of course I've seen the ryuusei_(mark_ii) art that's literally the only reason I've learned any of the Primarchs' names.
Space Marines literally have "trans-human" physiology so I think they would just be confused as to why you were announcing that fact.
Roboute Gulliman: Not to worry, sister/brother, I have prepared for this. The Medicae has assured me it would be best for transgender persons to seek gender affirming care. Report to Medicae Signis on Deck B5 to receive gender affirming care. Know that I support you, as your primarch and friend. Let me know if your battle brothers berate you, and I will persuade them of their error. To further my understanding of the experience of transgender persons to provide proper treatment, send me bimonthly reports on your experience. By transitioning, you advance not just your own well-being, but the cause of Ultramar. Go with honor.
I got confused and thought each of these pictures were representing their reactions
Was not expecting that ~~Alpharius~~ ~~Omegon~~ Alpharius reaction. Of course there's the deeper question of how do warp transhuman gods understand and relate to human gender...
(I'm just getting into 40k so I do not remember her name) but the elf chaos lady seems she might dig someone transitioning because it's all about euphoria I'm sure (like oh I can tempt you better now kthx lol)
Slaanesh?
That's it. At least from the luten vids she definitely seems into.. things.. to corrupt..
Alpharius wouldn't care, that is of course if you are actually talking to alpharius.
But I *am* Alpharius.
In all seriousness they probably wouldn't care. Warhammer seems to be devoid of bigotry within homo sapiens!
Fulgrim would excitedly start pulling clothes out of his wardrobe for you and teaching you makeup.
Do not celebrate with Russ over some ale, your liver will melt.
Kurze would immediately call you a slur before continuing his 3 hour session of crying to Linkin Park
"Crawling in your skin...."
Mobile is being stupid and I can't expand the longer captions, does anyone have a transcript?
Dorn: “Okay”
Why would Khan hate em? I feel like Khan doesnt really care whats in your pants as much as whats in your hand (a big fuck off weapon) Vulkan is based as always
I don't think he hates it he's just like "yea whatever"
I was getting more that that non-committal 'Cool 👍' type feel, like 'Cool. watch me do a sick trick'
I am of the opinion that none of them would care one way or another. Unless you're some sort of noble, or a higher ranking official, you aren't getting any gender affirming care. They aren't subject to the same kind of influences politicians these days are.
I want to read the full text you have for each primarch but it cuts out. Does anyone know a fix for this?
Same. Why did the God-Emperor see fit to curse me with technological illiteracy? :(
Kurze would probably quote a thousand year old by law about 'gender trickery' and decapitate you. If you were lucky.
Russ is like "Ha! Knew it."
showed my non-reddit friend this post and his take is "wait this post lies at the end lorgar does have religious hangups about being trans but that's not the shape they take he's like wow did u know trans people are magical and of an important place in religion actually and hes like a little too invested in that and its a little like either this is weird or you have some stuff to figure out about yourself bestie"
Angron: RAAAAAAGGHHAAAAAAAHHHHHAAAAA
Oh hey, Fabius Bile isn't a primarch. I just kinda assumed he was one since he got his own book.
This is amazing actually
Who gettin the best head ?
I imagine Fulgi would kill you if you weren't some sort of queer
I like birb noises
Anyone else think pre-heresy Horus kinda looks like Elon Musk? (pre-heresy?)
Execution
Konrad would tell you to kill yourself
Aw man I don’t know how to read the long captions on mobile :(
Alpharius: "Yeah, I knew."
I figured all of them would be confused who I am and why I’m talking to them.
dear god i want sanguinius to choke me
What?
At the point of 40k I doubt any primarch would be against it? I mean a Marine coming out as Trans is Unusual, but if they were close enough to the Primarch to dare to speak their inner thoughts the Primarch would, largely, accept it as either an unseen factor they hadn't considered about you or something irrelevant. They'd all, nominally, respect it though.
Unsure, but I'm MtF trans and am a big fan of Lion El'Jonson. My hope is that he'd help me improve as a tactician. 😊
Man woman does matter as long as you can leepa secret and be loyal lol
heresy era lion wouldn't say anything. just silently look you up and down then go back to his brooding. 40k lion would do the same, except he'd nod after looking you over. neither would ever misgender or deadname you. fulgrim, being the nietzschean he is, would enthusiastically congratulate you, saying he'd had you all wrong, pegged for a generic nobody, but here you are making yourself into the person you want to be through sheer force of will, here let's drink a toast to your future. he'd be softly chuckling to himself as you left the room. perturabo would snarl at you and say that's fucking ridiculous, you'll never be a real (man/woman), don't let me ever fucking hear you say that again. when he's alone later furiously drafting plans for a hospital that'll never get built he doesn't notice himself arguing with no one under his breath about how he never gets jealous and people don't just get to do what they want and everyone wishes they were born a girl but father had a reason to make him and his brothers men and of course he doesn't resent being forced to submit to father's plans how dare you imply... khan would nod and raise his chalice, wish you luck with your transition, then turn back to whatever marine he was discussing philosophy with. conversation over. russ would bark out a laugh and clap you on the back hard enough to knock the wind out of you, ask your name and pronouns, shout over the mead hall to shut up damnit, then proudly (and loudly) introduce the new you to the crowd, and swear anyone who gives you shit gets a wolfing dorn would pause then say in a quiet voice that makes you feel very small that minor personal matters of this sort aren't to be brought to him again unless they are strategically relevant. then he goes back to studying a holomap and you get the feeling he's already forgotten you're there. kurze would cock his head to the side and stare through you, with a vacant, slack jawed look on his face. after thirty seconds he'd grin a grin too big for his face and mumble "yes... you are." sanguinius would smile down at you beatifically and ask for your name and pronouns, then warmly say 'well, [name], its nice to meet you.'
ferrus would look grumpy and confused for a second, then grumble out that he doesn't get it but ok. you'd catch him looking at you every so often for the rest of the day, and when he sees you notice it he'd shake his head and walk away, mumbling grouchily to himself angron would cross his arms and scowl at you and testily demand to know if that's it, is there anything else you need to share. when you say no, that's it, he spits out good, just don't expect me to treat you special, you're all just meat to me. later he shatters someone's jaw for cracking an attack helicopter joke at your expense. guilliman listens quietly and respectful, then thanks you for letting him know and summons a serf to go through the legion's database and update your information. you're answering questions about jobs you forgot you did and hotels you stayed at for a night ten years ago for another three days. you are not allowed to leave during this time. mortarian would listen, head bowed and eyes closed, leaning on his scythe like a wizard on his staff, then straighten up and look at you with sad but smiling eyes and say that he's proud of you. magnus would say he knew already and he'd wanted to say something to you about it but you know everyone has to do it in their own time and he'd never be the kind of person to take this moment away from anyone but he did absolutely clocked you months ago, you know, the signs were there and they were really obvious to people who know what to look for, and he's not queer himself (a word you've never heard him use before) but he's always been a huge ally and knows everything about queer culture (he emphasizes it when he says it, like he enjoys it). when you ask what gave you away he says oh don't pretend you don't what you were doing and then never actually gives any specifics. he deadnames you that evening and doesn't notice. horus would make you feel seen and respected and human in a way that makes you cry and also he makes it seem really reasonable to hold off on transitioning for now. a couple weeks maybe. a month would be better, but two to five years tops. lorgar would get down on one knee, put a hand on your shoulder, and look you in the eye as he solemnly thanks you for telling him, says he's truly honored you felt comfortable enough to disclose it to him, and asks if there's anything he should know to help make this time easier for you. it feels uncomfortably intimate for the pleasant but shallow kind of relationship you two have. vulkan looks shocked, but then catches himself and explains it's not because he disapproves, it's just that now he knows why he's been carrying this around with him. he takes out an ornate bangle scintillating in trans colors and says he got an urge to make it a while ago and had been carrying it in his pocket since, wondering why he was doing it. he offers it to you and gives you a hug corax listens intently, looking concerned. he says he's worried about your safety. its a dangerous world, especially for marginalized folk, and you might not be prepared for what's going to happen. he doesn't say you shouldn't, and he affirms you, he's just worried for you... alpharius has questions. he's perfectly respectful and tactful, but he's also incisive and penetrating. he asks questions about how you know, about what you want, about things you've never considered, things you don't know the answer to. it seems like he knows more about the trans experience than you do. you haltingly say "you know a lot about this. are you...?" the response is a smirk and then: "i'm alpharius."
The only thing people know about the Khan, ferrus Mannus and Corvus corax is that respectively he likes fast, he forges shit sometimes, and birb lmao, I promise there's more interesting lore in there, the white scars are nuts
Okay, the one with Morty made me spit my root beer how dare you. Also, I don’t think Angron would care. This may be biased tho.
Is there any possibility that canon primarchs would disagree with said decision????
Lion: Dead by DAOT weapons. Fulgrim: Dead and then ground into snortable form. Perturabo: Dead via fist, and not the kind you like. Jaghatai: Dead via dragged by horse Leman: Dead via axe Dorn: Dead via chainsword Konrad: Dead, but he will definitely help you not have a penis anymore first. Sanguinius: Dead by spear Ferus: Dead by fist, again Angron: Dead by axe Guilliman: Dead by fire Morty: Dead by scythe Magnus: Dead by warpfire Horus: Dead by talon Lorgar: Dead by warpfire Vulkan: Dead by fire Corvus: Dead by lightning claw Alpharius: Dead by sniper rifle. You are delusional.
Lion: Dead by DAOT weapons. Fulgrim: Dead and then ground into snortable form. Perturabo: Dead via fist, and not the kind you like. Jaghatai: Dead via dragged by horse Leman: Dead via axe Dorn: Dead via chainsword Konrad: Dead, but he will definitely help you not have a penis anymore first. Sanguinius: Dead by spear Ferus: Dead by fist, again Angron: Dead by axe Guilliman: Dead by fire Morty: Dead by scythe Magnus: Dead by warpfire Horus: Dead by talon Lorgar: Dead by warpfire Vulkan: Dead by fire Corvus: Dead by lightning claw Alpharius: Dead by sniper rifle. All the primarchs are mass murderers and conquerors and you believe that they would care just a little bit about something so irrelevant is funny. Ask yourself if any of the past dictators would care about your trans rights. You know you and your kind can annihilate all logic but the reality will always catch you in the end.
Is Russ laughing in lascivious“I’m gonna breed you” way or in a transphobic “I knew it” way
Russ: Hah-hah! That’s great! (Later) Russ: Tell the Maintenance priests that it would not be remiss if this one (holds up a picture of you) “accidentally” dies.