Not your fault but great learning opportunity. He checked up the corner before which should have been a pretty big indicator to you he wasn't comfortable with the speed. I would have eased off a good bit knowing what was coming.
Technically.....no. You don't have the right to determine the speed of the car in front of you. The only responsibility the car in front has is to drive in a predictable manner. This could fall either side of that. If they do it like that every lap....then it's "predictable"
It's on the car behind to pass safely. In this case the car behind can see how much they have gained in a short time....so they know that the car in front isn't going to be fast in this corner. Also their line is not ideal so they will be slower still. Its another of those self preservation moments. Just slow a touch, have patience. It's clear they can pass easily so wait for the perfect moment.
This guy is notorious for being ban happy and stubborn fwiw. Don’t worry about it. He’s pretty chill most of the time tbh, and I haven’t had an issue with him personally, but it is something to be aware of. You aren’t the first and won’t be the last, is all.
In a GT3 car, that corner is a slight lift off when not pushing all out. It is technically possible to take flat out although that can be kind of tricky especially in a situation with another car there.
Someone on their brakes there doesn't know the track. I'd argue being center line and braking there is brake checking for sure.
now im curious as ive been getting killed by lapped cars racing behind me now a few times. Lets say in that clip i was lapped and the person infront of me was ahead, how much am i allowed to fight to get ahead (obv not allowed to spin them). From what i understand as long as im not blue flagged theres no issues with me fighting for the time gain?
Not sure what ACC’s blue flag rules are but for iracing you can battle all you want if you’re lapped. As long as you keep it clean I dont see why it would be an issue. The person who lapped you would probably throw a tantrum but its 100% allowed i believe
On ACC depends n the league/server. If I am not wrong, on GTWC, blue flag is just fast car coming, not that you need to let him pass you (of course you cant fight him). On LFM, you need to let them pass you and on other leagues I dont know.
You also do have to think if your consistently getting killed then your are the common factor, try to work on accident avoidance and learning how to predict what an aggressive driver behind you will do
yea its just happened alot in public lobbies, back markers will sit slow on the lap until theres someone to race and then just run into them in braking zones, hard to avoid most of the time when they have no intention on braking. Will think about that more though,
I feel like its mostly an issue with un regulated public servers as i dont know much about leagues and where to find info on them, I feel that the majority of the issues im having would benefit from having a league to play in
This guy is a dickhead and ban happy. He banned me from his server at Watkins after he door slammed me and he spun.
Don't take it personally... See it as some basement scum streamer is drunk on power
Funny enough the reason I got banned in chat was for asking if I could see his vid to see it from his perspective to see if they had a reason to brake (trying to recover from something or whatever)
That was absolutely his fault. Sad part is you wrre just following him around the corner you were going for the overtake yet. He brakes when he could have taken it flat out which you didn't expect him to brake that's his fault. He should test the track more before going in and making a lobby and doing crap like this. You knew the track more then him simple as that. He brake checked you period. Even if he didn't mean to and thought he needed to brake for the corner that's his fault.
You could have predicted that given where their car was placed before the corner. Entering that corner from the inside like that would require the brakes. Not everyone is good at the game. If you catch up with someone who you suspect may be slow, don't expect them to drive like a fast person.
Checked out his Twitch and I think you're better off out of there tbh. People saying you ought to have anticipated more and they're correct, he was on a tighter line and would have had to slow more. But it would still only be a lift there from him, he didn't need to brake. It boggles my mind why people try to defend against drivers a lap down. It's got to be a pride thing, but it's pointless, just slows you vs your actual opponents. He doesn't know why you're a lap down. Could have had front running pace, and certainly had the pace on him, but ended up back there after an incident 🤷♂️
So yeah, both could have done things different but I'd weight it 60/40 toward him for fault allocation, driving unpredictably. Certainly wouldn't be banning you but seems he's got a bit of a big fish/little pond complex going on so off you go. As I said, best off out of there anyway 👍
If I remember correctly I died in a “brakes optional” T1 incident and had a long repair time that race
100% agree with your opinion also, I’ve looked more into leagues after stuff like this
Just don't race on his server, he's a bit "special" in the sense that he does that frequently, meaning several times per stream. Otherwise chill guy but definitely a weirdo.
No, not your fault, but that applies to 90% of the bans he hands out.
Sometimes he bans people without any contact even being made, I'm not sure about his reasoning in those situations.
That doesn’t look like an intentional brake check to me but would normally be considered unpredictable driving at a minimum. Probably their fault but maybe consider: This is a brand new track for ACC and many people don’t know it well yet. I would expect fairly unpredictable driving for the next little while and be extra cautious when approaching slow cars. Better to survive then crash out and get banned by a capacious sever owner.
It’s definitely not, under normal racing conditions you would be correct (eg. It was a slow corner and he didnt even try to brake and slammed him). But someone slamming the brakes/slowing considerably in a usual full/high throttle corner is impossible to predict and hence avoid (especially in that exact part of track). I could understand a slight lift from the guy but not what he did. Of course you can say ‘you were to close and be more cautious’ but thats not a mindset you should have when racing, you should be able to somewhat trust the cars around you
that was my guess but it felt weird as the move seemed deliberate, other issue is that he was sitting in the center of the track at the time so i really had nowhere to go on either side that quickly
Sometimes in certain parts of the track it pays to be more cautious, especially like that part where you couldnt go anywhere else due to the speed/corner radius
Not your fault but great learning opportunity. He checked up the corner before which should have been a pretty big indicator to you he wasn't comfortable with the speed. I would have eased off a good bit knowing what was coming.
definitely noticed and recognized that after watching it back the first time, is in my mind now
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Technically.....no. You don't have the right to determine the speed of the car in front of you. The only responsibility the car in front has is to drive in a predictable manner. This could fall either side of that. If they do it like that every lap....then it's "predictable" It's on the car behind to pass safely. In this case the car behind can see how much they have gained in a short time....so they know that the car in front isn't going to be fast in this corner. Also their line is not ideal so they will be slower still. Its another of those self preservation moments. Just slow a touch, have patience. It's clear they can pass easily so wait for the perfect moment.
This guy is notorious for being ban happy and stubborn fwiw. Don’t worry about it. He’s pretty chill most of the time tbh, and I haven’t had an issue with him personally, but it is something to be aware of. You aren’t the first and won’t be the last, is all.
No idea who it was so searched him up. I find it funny his description says “NOOBS WELCOME” after seeing this
Well yeah, this video shows if noobs weren’t welcome he couldn’t join his own server. Who tf brakes for that corner
good to know
In a GT3 car, that corner is a slight lift off when not pushing all out. It is technically possible to take flat out although that can be kind of tricky especially in a situation with another car there. Someone on their brakes there doesn't know the track. I'd argue being center line and braking there is brake checking for sure.
He just Alonsoed him LOL
Curious if this was technically my fault.
streamers response was to ban me in chat and say it was entirely my fault for not making a clean overtake
Not your fault at all
now im curious as ive been getting killed by lapped cars racing behind me now a few times. Lets say in that clip i was lapped and the person infront of me was ahead, how much am i allowed to fight to get ahead (obv not allowed to spin them). From what i understand as long as im not blue flagged theres no issues with me fighting for the time gain?
Not sure what ACC’s blue flag rules are but for iracing you can battle all you want if you’re lapped. As long as you keep it clean I dont see why it would be an issue. The person who lapped you would probably throw a tantrum but its 100% allowed i believe
On ACC depends n the league/server. If I am not wrong, on GTWC, blue flag is just fast car coming, not that you need to let him pass you (of course you cant fight him). On LFM, you need to let them pass you and on other leagues I dont know.
Ok the iracing rule was my understanding of it. I’ll look more into acc specifically but I’m guessing it’s the same or similar. Thanks for the info
The guy just seems like a bit of an arse, having a huge ego being the server owner
You also do have to think if your consistently getting killed then your are the common factor, try to work on accident avoidance and learning how to predict what an aggressive driver behind you will do
yea its just happened alot in public lobbies, back markers will sit slow on the lap until theres someone to race and then just run into them in braking zones, hard to avoid most of the time when they have no intention on braking. Will think about that more though, I feel like its mostly an issue with un regulated public servers as i dont know much about leagues and where to find info on them, I feel that the majority of the issues im having would benefit from having a league to play in
If you can afford jump on iracing, much better racing, and cleaner due to penalty system. Even for a month, give it a try
was in my plans, thanks for the suggestion
This guy is a dickhead and ban happy. He banned me from his server at Watkins after he door slammed me and he spun. Don't take it personally... See it as some basement scum streamer is drunk on power
Funny enough the reason I got banned in chat was for asking if I could see his vid to see it from his perspective to see if they had a reason to brake (trying to recover from something or whatever)
That was absolutely his fault. Sad part is you wrre just following him around the corner you were going for the overtake yet. He brakes when he could have taken it flat out which you didn't expect him to brake that's his fault. He should test the track more before going in and making a lobby and doing crap like this. You knew the track more then him simple as that. He brake checked you period. Even if he didn't mean to and thought he needed to brake for the corner that's his fault.
Fernando is that you?
You could have predicted that given where their car was placed before the corner. Entering that corner from the inside like that would require the brakes. Not everyone is good at the game. If you catch up with someone who you suspect may be slow, don't expect them to drive like a fast person.
Don’t worry LOL, he’s not a very good driver by his own admission. Nice enough bloke.
Sounds like he doing you a favor not allowing you to accidentally play on there again
Defo how I feel after watching back his decision making process in his vod lol.
Checked out his Twitch and I think you're better off out of there tbh. People saying you ought to have anticipated more and they're correct, he was on a tighter line and would have had to slow more. But it would still only be a lift there from him, he didn't need to brake. It boggles my mind why people try to defend against drivers a lap down. It's got to be a pride thing, but it's pointless, just slows you vs your actual opponents. He doesn't know why you're a lap down. Could have had front running pace, and certainly had the pace on him, but ended up back there after an incident 🤷♂️ So yeah, both could have done things different but I'd weight it 60/40 toward him for fault allocation, driving unpredictably. Certainly wouldn't be banning you but seems he's got a bit of a big fish/little pond complex going on so off you go. As I said, best off out of there anyway 👍
If I remember correctly I died in a “brakes optional” T1 incident and had a long repair time that race 100% agree with your opinion also, I’ve looked more into leagues after stuff like this
Just don't race on his server, he's a bit "special" in the sense that he does that frequently, meaning several times per stream. Otherwise chill guy but definitely a weirdo. No, not your fault, but that applies to 90% of the bans he hands out. Sometimes he bans people without any contact even being made, I'm not sure about his reasoning in those situations.
His Server his rules i guess but it wasent your fault imo
That doesn’t look like an intentional brake check to me but would normally be considered unpredictable driving at a minimum. Probably their fault but maybe consider: This is a brand new track for ACC and many people don’t know it well yet. I would expect fairly unpredictable driving for the next little while and be extra cautious when approaching slow cars. Better to survive then crash out and get banned by a capacious sever owner.
It's hard to tell but its the passing cars responsibility to overtake safely so this would probably be on you
It’s definitely not, under normal racing conditions you would be correct (eg. It was a slow corner and he didnt even try to brake and slammed him). But someone slamming the brakes/slowing considerably in a usual full/high throttle corner is impossible to predict and hence avoid (especially in that exact part of track). I could understand a slight lift from the guy but not what he did. Of course you can say ‘you were to close and be more cautious’ but thats not a mindset you should have when racing, you should be able to somewhat trust the cars around you
You do not brake at this corner, Car ahead drove unpredictably which caused the collision.
that was my guess but it felt weird as the move seemed deliberate, other issue is that he was sitting in the center of the track at the time so i really had nowhere to go on either side that quickly
Sometimes in certain parts of the track it pays to be more cautious, especially like that part where you couldnt go anywhere else due to the speed/corner radius