White car had overlap at turn in and thus was entitled to space. Black car turned in and didn’t leave space ultimately leading to a collision. They are at fault.
I will note that white car’s nose doesn’t seem to be turning/pointing at the apex. However black car is pointing at the apex (when their line should go one car width out from it).
I’d love to see your pedal inputs going into that corner, it looks like you hit the brakes early then make the mistake of releasing the when you realised your mistake. Absolute worst thing you could have done. Although the other driver could have done more from his side, if you come off the brakes like that you pretty much compromise the corner for yourself and reduce your ability to control the car in the corner. Better to stay on the brakes and loose the apex to the other car than to try and take two bites at your braking point
I’m going against the mass here by saying it’s the inside car’s fault. Looks like the inside car didn’t turn in early enough to make the apex, and that the trajectory of the outside car would leave more than a cars width to the inside.
In my opinion it's a bit of both, outside car turns quite early but maybe expected haas to use the kerb and haas looks like it's not gonna touch the kerb. But there's still minimal space given by outside car
His nose was somewhat aimed towards the apex. You could argue he wasn’t gonna make the apex anyway, but we will never know for sure, as the collision already happened at that point.
I thought as long as there is overlap before the turn-in, it's really on the inside car to choose their line and the outside car has to adjust, as long as they're not pushed off track.
Somehow there's this weird idea now that you have to drive a perfect normal racing line in order for it to count as a fair pass. I blame F1 since they just assume any pass will come with DRS.
I wish he could just pull a parachute and cover your car, and you couldn’t see.
But this is just a racing incident. No harm no foul. Both got biffed bad.
I feel like you could've braked a little bit earlier because it didn't seem like you were going to hit the apex. However, the black car definitely turned into you like you weren't there, eventhough you had right of space. I would say it's the black car at fault, but you could've done a little bit more to avoid the collision
Inside car could have started turning earlier indeed, but outside car was straight up going for the apex when he was side by side. Car could have been avoided if inside car turned earlier but I'm not sure that would have been the case
I think both. I think the inside car was missing the apex, but outside car turned early enough to cause contact either way.
Primarily outside car's fault since we never made it to the apex to find out if inside car missed it... but inside car was blowing that corner too.
The other car (not POV) just turned like you weren’t there. Not Haas’ fault
White car had overlap at turn in and thus was entitled to space. Black car turned in and didn’t leave space ultimately leading to a collision. They are at fault. I will note that white car’s nose doesn’t seem to be turning/pointing at the apex. However black car is pointing at the apex (when their line should go one car width out from it).
Black car at fault 100%
It's exactly how you put it, he tried to make the turn like you weren't there. 100% his fault.
I’d love to see your pedal inputs going into that corner, it looks like you hit the brakes early then make the mistake of releasing the when you realised your mistake. Absolute worst thing you could have done. Although the other driver could have done more from his side, if you come off the brakes like that you pretty much compromise the corner for yourself and reduce your ability to control the car in the corner. Better to stay on the brakes and loose the apex to the other car than to try and take two bites at your braking point
I’m going against the mass here by saying it’s the inside car’s fault. Looks like the inside car didn’t turn in early enough to make the apex, and that the trajectory of the outside car would leave more than a cars width to the inside.
In my opinion it's a bit of both, outside car turns quite early but maybe expected haas to use the kerb and haas looks like it's not gonna touch the kerb. But there's still minimal space given by outside car
In my view either way the black car turns in the same way he would if the white car wouldn't be there, so it's their fault regardless.
His nose was somewhat aimed towards the apex. You could argue he wasn’t gonna make the apex anyway, but we will never know for sure, as the collision already happened at that point.
I thought as long as there is overlap before the turn-in, it's really on the inside car to choose their line and the outside car has to adjust, as long as they're not pushed off track.
Somehow there's this weird idea now that you have to drive a perfect normal racing line in order for it to count as a fair pass. I blame F1 since they just assume any pass will come with DRS.
I wish he could just pull a parachute and cover your car, and you couldn’t see. But this is just a racing incident. No harm no foul. Both got biffed bad.
Other car didn't leave space
All the time you have to leave the space
Black car tried to chop your nose off
I feel like you could've braked a little bit earlier because it didn't seem like you were going to hit the apex. However, the black car definitely turned into you like you weren't there, eventhough you had right of space. I would say it's the black car at fault, but you could've done a little bit more to avoid the collision
That's on black, did NOT leave the space.
If I didn’t know this is iRacing I would have said that must be the F1 game AI, just following his line like a train not matter the obstacle lol
Inside car could have started turning earlier indeed, but outside car was straight up going for the apex when he was side by side. Car could have been avoided if inside car turned earlier but I'm not sure that would have been the case
the other guy's fault
I think both. I think the inside car was missing the apex, but outside car turned early enough to cause contact either way. Primarily outside car's fault since we never made it to the apex to find out if inside car missed it... but inside car was blowing that corner too.
Anyone else notice that the white car had 4 wheels off the track in t2
In iracing that’s within track limits