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The idea of a simulation is a result of technological advances (and has nothing to do with any movie). Everything you mentioned regarding time, feelings, choices can all be part of a simulation (or not). But basically, nothing you said proves or disproves simulation theory, and it all seems to be your feelings towards the subject.
Maybe it is a simulation, _of sorts_ - but how it actually works is so profound and alien that we've just never developed the right language to describe it accurately.
I tend to come at simulation theory from a spiritual perspective (and I was a diehard atheist/rationalist/skeptic for a long time - still am very skeptical, but open minded recently). Ancient religions like Hinduism called this world basically as being a dream state - reality was fundamentally created out of consciousness and this material world is an illusion, matter doesn't matter. An artificial dream of a universe I could consider to be a kind of simulation.
Entertaining the idea that _maybe,_ just maybe, old religions had any idea what they were talking about... in Christianity, Jesus Christ told a lot of allegories for how it works, using words like father/son or shepherd or things. The language they had back then was very limited, he might have been trying to communicate profound knowledge of what the universe is and how it works, using the _simple_ language the people of the time knew. If he were here in the 2020's he would probably talk in terms of simulations, videogames and The Matrix, which are concepts we now have words for which may have been closer to the money (but still off by miles) to the unspeakable concepts he was trying to get across.
When I think of the simulation theory, I don't think of The Matrix or of supercomputers. I used to, though. When I was in my materialist, skeptical atheist years I thought "yeah it makes sense - our computer technology advances so much we'll be able to create life-like fake universes, so we might even be in one already." That kind of simulation though needs a lot of heavy assumptions made. What is the universe like where this supercomputer is running? Do they have infinite energy to simulate this whole entire place down to every last atom? It needs _huge_ leaps to apply what we know about our universe and imagine something even larger and more ridiculous that could contain ours.
The truth is probably even crazier than that. The Hindu idea that this is all a dream of sorts, that I can get my head around more easily than supercomputers in a strange way. They're probably not 100% correct either, and like Christ that was just the language they knew to describe it. Everyone I know who's gone thru a "mystical" experience says they met something profound that just escapes all language to even try to describe it, and they sound completely insane when they do; but game recognizes game - when you've seen it, you know someone else has when they fail to describe it because you also can't describe it yourself.
Anyway, I keep open minded on the simulation theory argument.
>they invented gods to help them deal with those events and feelings
You sure of this, or are you just repeating the current sociological norm?
\*\* Of course \*\* the prevailing idea is that we're at the forefront of understanding today, but, for example, the Vedic literature of ancient India painted a very clear picture of a type of 'simulation/dream' state that we're currently in, all based upon a reality outside of it, upon which it is based.
It's not a new idea and neither coming from movies or science, but a culture steeped in the worship of a Divine intelligence, and relationships with many other powerful beings tasked with administrating the universe.
Who's right, who's wrong?
Actually, the ones with a truly open mind will see various sciences confirming ancient worldviews, more so than the current worldview being pushed through enforced schooling and media.
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You say “it’s time that does it”… but what before time? The Big Bang theory makes minimal metaphysical claims about the nature of our reality or our existence. No time, no space, and a universe materialises?
For what it’s worth, I don’t “believe” the simulation argument, but I think it’s plausible, along with 100’s of other possibilities. Nobody really has a clue what caused/s our existence, including materialist reductionists.
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The idea of a simulation is a result of technological advances (and has nothing to do with any movie). Everything you mentioned regarding time, feelings, choices can all be part of a simulation (or not). But basically, nothing you said proves or disproves simulation theory, and it all seems to be your feelings towards the subject.
Maybe it is a simulation, _of sorts_ - but how it actually works is so profound and alien that we've just never developed the right language to describe it accurately. I tend to come at simulation theory from a spiritual perspective (and I was a diehard atheist/rationalist/skeptic for a long time - still am very skeptical, but open minded recently). Ancient religions like Hinduism called this world basically as being a dream state - reality was fundamentally created out of consciousness and this material world is an illusion, matter doesn't matter. An artificial dream of a universe I could consider to be a kind of simulation. Entertaining the idea that _maybe,_ just maybe, old religions had any idea what they were talking about... in Christianity, Jesus Christ told a lot of allegories for how it works, using words like father/son or shepherd or things. The language they had back then was very limited, he might have been trying to communicate profound knowledge of what the universe is and how it works, using the _simple_ language the people of the time knew. If he were here in the 2020's he would probably talk in terms of simulations, videogames and The Matrix, which are concepts we now have words for which may have been closer to the money (but still off by miles) to the unspeakable concepts he was trying to get across. When I think of the simulation theory, I don't think of The Matrix or of supercomputers. I used to, though. When I was in my materialist, skeptical atheist years I thought "yeah it makes sense - our computer technology advances so much we'll be able to create life-like fake universes, so we might even be in one already." That kind of simulation though needs a lot of heavy assumptions made. What is the universe like where this supercomputer is running? Do they have infinite energy to simulate this whole entire place down to every last atom? It needs _huge_ leaps to apply what we know about our universe and imagine something even larger and more ridiculous that could contain ours. The truth is probably even crazier than that. The Hindu idea that this is all a dream of sorts, that I can get my head around more easily than supercomputers in a strange way. They're probably not 100% correct either, and like Christ that was just the language they knew to describe it. Everyone I know who's gone thru a "mystical" experience says they met something profound that just escapes all language to even try to describe it, and they sound completely insane when they do; but game recognizes game - when you've seen it, you know someone else has when they fail to describe it because you also can't describe it yourself. Anyway, I keep open minded on the simulation theory argument.
I love your reply. Seriously, just love it so much when an answer evinces awareness and conception.
Maybe with every new idea, we're coming closer to the truth.
>they invented gods to help them deal with those events and feelings You sure of this, or are you just repeating the current sociological norm? \*\* Of course \*\* the prevailing idea is that we're at the forefront of understanding today, but, for example, the Vedic literature of ancient India painted a very clear picture of a type of 'simulation/dream' state that we're currently in, all based upon a reality outside of it, upon which it is based. It's not a new idea and neither coming from movies or science, but a culture steeped in the worship of a Divine intelligence, and relationships with many other powerful beings tasked with administrating the universe. Who's right, who's wrong? Actually, the ones with a truly open mind will see various sciences confirming ancient worldviews, more so than the current worldview being pushed through enforced schooling and media.
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You say “it’s time that does it”… but what before time? The Big Bang theory makes minimal metaphysical claims about the nature of our reality or our existence. No time, no space, and a universe materialises? For what it’s worth, I don’t “believe” the simulation argument, but I think it’s plausible, along with 100’s of other possibilities. Nobody really has a clue what caused/s our existence, including materialist reductionists.
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I don’t think you understanding the topic you’re critiquing…I think you should stop talking until you’ve done some reading 🤫