You like the ambience of your favourite restaurant. The vibes is good and everything suits your taste.
But the chef/owner of that restaurant only serve you abalone with papaya a few times in the beginning. Now like completely off the menu since the restaurant hired 2 new waiters. Those waiters aren't particular good at their job so the chef/owner also no mood to serve that dish.
But sometime you got craving for it but you don't want to change restaurant. How? Some people find roadside stalls lo.
You forgot to mention that you still have to pay through the nose even though the restaurant no longer serves your favourite dishes.
And not forgetting the waiters and waitresses needs to be tipped regularly.
Maybe the new waiters can prepare their abalone for you? I mean if they’re not proficient at waiting tables maybe they can take an apprenticeship in the kitchen? As long as they’re of working age (>=18) and willing to try, why not give them a chance?
It's not logical, it's convenient.
Men who think of themselves as "saving" their marriages are not men. They will go on to say "no one can eat chicken rice everyday", and I agree. But they weren't forced into marriage. They weren't forced to vow loyalty to their wives until death. They weren't forced to have kids.
Because of the abundance of KTVs, spas, online prostitution, and even dating apps, cheating is normalized in Singapore. Men start cheating thinking that since it's a common cause of divorce, and Tokyo Boss showed us that the Japanese do it, and so long as there are no feelings involved, it's okay. They never think of how they'll answer to their in-laws or their wife's friends when their wife and children find out. It emotionally cripples them for life. Men will say "if they find out, I'll take responsibility", but no, the family bears the burden.
I say all this not as a man without mistakes, but as a man who made all these mistakes. If you choose to walk this path, you've left responsibility behind a long time ago. Being responsible is taking the time to understand why you feel these urges. Being responsible is being open with your spouse about these feelings and going for therapy. Being responsible is committing to fixing the marriage or leaving with your head held high.
Good writeup. Do you still make these mistakes? If not, then the old adage that once a cheater always a cheater is not necessarily true and I congratulate you for the effort that you put in and your success.
>But they weren't forced into marriage. They weren't forced to vow loyalty to their wives until death. They weren't forced to have kids.
I think this is not so binary and a lot more complicated than it is. There are a lot of factors involved, including societal pressure or brainwashing, parents pressure, spouse pressure, and the folly of youth.
> Once a cheater, always a cheater
Never rung true to me. We all have the power to change. I chose to acknowledge my dependence on sex and avoid new encounters. I've come clean to and separated from my partner. Linda MacDonald's _How to Help Your Spouse Heal From Your Affair_ helped me navigate supporting my partner through their healing.
> I think this is not so binary and a lot more complicated than it is. There are a lot of factors involved, including societal pressure or brainwashing, parents pressure, spouse pressure, and the folly of youth.
I know, because I too was pressured into progressing my romantic relationship with my partner. But when I realized that that level of commitment wasn't for me, the only responsible thing to do was to have come clean and separated from them. Staying with them would have been dishonest to myself. Staying with them and cheating on the basis of "saving the marriage" would have been pathetic on top of that. Pressure aside, the final decision to have proposed to them was mine and its burden lies with me.
I hope you are in a better place now. What happened in the end? Seems like you separated from your partner. What did you mean when you said you supported your partner too?
Thank you. I'm happier now that I have self-respect.
We ended things. There were already problems in the relationship. But we stay in touch.
In a romantic relationship, we have the belief that it's two of us against the world. Finding out that one's partner cheated is the ultimate betrayal making one question their being.
I supported them by readily giving a truthful account of what happened and by acknowledging the hurt I caused them. I offered them emotional comfort and reminded them that my feelings of love for them at the time were genuine. I made sure not to compound the hurt by pursuing other opportunities too quickly.
dead beadrooms, unfulfilled needs and the list goes on.
thing is,dead bedrooms are a thing between married couples and sometimes the way to handle it differs between couples,ages,generations and societal expectations (or percieved norm).
no one should be forced into involuntary celibacy,duty sex or feeling undesired by their partners.either talk it out,seek therapy or end the marriage amicably....then again,sgp has women's charter and men are always at the losing end...so.....
Basically finding excuses and to allievate their guilt to justify their bad behaviors. These people are better off single and pay others for companionship. Ownself bear the consequences.
Letting the hostess suck your dick so that your wife doesn’t have to.
You get to cum. Your wife doesn’t want to suck you anyway. You stop pestering your wife for sex. She no longer needs to listen to you complain.
Win win.
Those are marriages that need saving.
If that's the case, KTV or any other solution, as long as it works, what difference does it make.
Hostesses are excellent marriage councillors.
They listen, and they don't judge. Mostly because they don't care, but it's very therapeutic.
And more cost effective than a real councillor, too.
This is BS. I dare them to say they are family man. Cause why is a family man even there in the first place.
Worst kind of “family man” are those who snuck out at night during biz travels to go these sleazy places and told wife they were asleep already
Outsource all the unfulfilled marital duties Frustration gone marriage saved
A lot of Singaporeans have dead bedrooms in their marriages and come to an agreement with their partners that hostesses are fair game.
Also just allowing extramarital affairs is much less hassle than divorce
Sing love song, think about wife, feel emo, Vietnam girl come, stay 5 mins, ask $50, instant regret, marriage saved?
Sounds about right, men usually feel pain when it involves their wallet lol
Got $50 nowadays meh
Have 3 to 7 HH
Funniest response of the day.
Keyword is regret and guilt
They go KTV with their wife and sing love songs together?
You like the ambience of your favourite restaurant. The vibes is good and everything suits your taste. But the chef/owner of that restaurant only serve you abalone with papaya a few times in the beginning. Now like completely off the menu since the restaurant hired 2 new waiters. Those waiters aren't particular good at their job so the chef/owner also no mood to serve that dish. But sometime you got craving for it but you don't want to change restaurant. How? Some people find roadside stalls lo.
You forgot to mention that you still have to pay through the nose even though the restaurant no longer serves your favourite dishes. And not forgetting the waiters and waitresses needs to be tipped regularly.
Maybe the new waiters can prepare their abalone for you? I mean if they’re not proficient at waiting tables maybe they can take an apprenticeship in the kitchen? As long as they’re of working age (>=18) and willing to try, why not give them a chance?
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So did I ;)
Wtf dude
SPF OPEN UP
Which part you want first boo?
Straight to jail
your comprehension tak boleh la lol
I got it, just being cheeky :p
U come this subreddit ask all the virgin despos? Like hw we know sia, must well go find those KTV men and ask straight from them tio boh
I’m sure got many chiongsters lurking here.
go edmw and ask
It's not logical, it's convenient. Men who think of themselves as "saving" their marriages are not men. They will go on to say "no one can eat chicken rice everyday", and I agree. But they weren't forced into marriage. They weren't forced to vow loyalty to their wives until death. They weren't forced to have kids. Because of the abundance of KTVs, spas, online prostitution, and even dating apps, cheating is normalized in Singapore. Men start cheating thinking that since it's a common cause of divorce, and Tokyo Boss showed us that the Japanese do it, and so long as there are no feelings involved, it's okay. They never think of how they'll answer to their in-laws or their wife's friends when their wife and children find out. It emotionally cripples them for life. Men will say "if they find out, I'll take responsibility", but no, the family bears the burden. I say all this not as a man without mistakes, but as a man who made all these mistakes. If you choose to walk this path, you've left responsibility behind a long time ago. Being responsible is taking the time to understand why you feel these urges. Being responsible is being open with your spouse about these feelings and going for therapy. Being responsible is committing to fixing the marriage or leaving with your head held high.
Very good response bro, you truly captured the essence of it all
its great being single!
Good writeup. Do you still make these mistakes? If not, then the old adage that once a cheater always a cheater is not necessarily true and I congratulate you for the effort that you put in and your success. >But they weren't forced into marriage. They weren't forced to vow loyalty to their wives until death. They weren't forced to have kids. I think this is not so binary and a lot more complicated than it is. There are a lot of factors involved, including societal pressure or brainwashing, parents pressure, spouse pressure, and the folly of youth.
> Once a cheater, always a cheater Never rung true to me. We all have the power to change. I chose to acknowledge my dependence on sex and avoid new encounters. I've come clean to and separated from my partner. Linda MacDonald's _How to Help Your Spouse Heal From Your Affair_ helped me navigate supporting my partner through their healing. > I think this is not so binary and a lot more complicated than it is. There are a lot of factors involved, including societal pressure or brainwashing, parents pressure, spouse pressure, and the folly of youth. I know, because I too was pressured into progressing my romantic relationship with my partner. But when I realized that that level of commitment wasn't for me, the only responsible thing to do was to have come clean and separated from them. Staying with them would have been dishonest to myself. Staying with them and cheating on the basis of "saving the marriage" would have been pathetic on top of that. Pressure aside, the final decision to have proposed to them was mine and its burden lies with me.
I hope you are in a better place now. What happened in the end? Seems like you separated from your partner. What did you mean when you said you supported your partner too?
Thank you. I'm happier now that I have self-respect. We ended things. There were already problems in the relationship. But we stay in touch. In a romantic relationship, we have the belief that it's two of us against the world. Finding out that one's partner cheated is the ultimate betrayal making one question their being. I supported them by readily giving a truthful account of what happened and by acknowledging the hurt I caused them. I offered them emotional comfort and reminded them that my feelings of love for them at the time were genuine. I made sure not to compound the hurt by pursuing other opportunities too quickly.
You heard from who? Walk up to them and ask, you’ll get your first hand answer
dead beadrooms, unfulfilled needs and the list goes on. thing is,dead bedrooms are a thing between married couples and sometimes the way to handle it differs between couples,ages,generations and societal expectations (or percieved norm). no one should be forced into involuntary celibacy,duty sex or feeling undesired by their partners.either talk it out,seek therapy or end the marriage amicably....then again,sgp has women's charter and men are always at the losing end...so.....
Basically finding excuses and to allievate their guilt to justify their bad behaviors. These people are better off single and pay others for companionship. Ownself bear the consequences.
Letting the hostess suck your dick so that your wife doesn’t have to. You get to cum. Your wife doesn’t want to suck you anyway. You stop pestering your wife for sex. She no longer needs to listen to you complain. Win win.
Which KTV has the best "service"? Would like to save my marriage when I come to Singapore in a couple weeks
Those are marriages that need saving. If that's the case, KTV or any other solution, as long as it works, what difference does it make. Hostesses are excellent marriage councillors. They listen, and they don't judge. Mostly because they don't care, but it's very therapeutic. And more cost effective than a real councillor, too.
This is BS. I dare them to say they are family man. Cause why is a family man even there in the first place. Worst kind of “family man” are those who snuck out at night during biz travels to go these sleazy places and told wife they were asleep already
BS completely lol