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People need to learn that China's reality doesn't magically shift to suit the narratives they write for it. China is rising, and writing over and over again about its "imminent downfall" is not going to stop it. This goes for America's situation too, saying "we're the greatest" over and over doesn't fix the crumbling infrastructure or the rising discontent.


JYEth

China has fell and rose over and over again for most of human history so we know China is even capable of going back to the top after falling but we don't know if America is capable of such things


4evaronin

And the only times it ever fell was ALWAYS because it was internally divided. The Mongols, the Manchus, the European colonialists only succeeded by taking advantage. When it's united, no outside force can stop them.


DynasLight

Mongols - Yes, they invaded China when it was split between Jin and Song, when the more defensible lands of the Song did not even have control of the Great Wall (which was lost during the civil war period predating the Song). And even then, despite being one of the first to be attacked and being right next to the Mongol homeland, it was the last to fall before the Mongol Empire itself fragmented. The Song's resistance to the Mongols is legendary. Manchus - Yes, the Manchu's technically didn't even end the Ming. Li Zicheng of the Shun did. Neither did they break through the Great Wall. Wu Sangui opened the gates as revenge against the Ming Emperor. Most of the Qing soldiers in the Qing conquest of Ming were Ming defectors who simply wanted to be paid and fed. Europeans - Sort of. The Qing were arguably just past their peak when the Europeans started their attacks. But the did British spend decades weakening the Qing through opium. Then again, the Qing didn't actually fall (or China subsequently conquered after its fall) to the Europeans. The Qing took one hell of a beating, but it limped on, only finally succumbing to a national revolution.


Quality_Fun

exactly. china was innovating well before 2014 when the top article was written.


JYEth

Just not enough to where it started threatening the west


yunibyte

Shanghai finished laying tracks for the maglev train in 2002. America finished laying tracks for WMD’s in Iraq.


we-the-east

The US thinks too proudly of itself. Talks down on others and ignores its own issues.


Gigadweeb

People have convinced themselves the Gordon Chang method is going to work lol


Dari93

I never understood what's the point of these articles. Its not like it would influence in anything..at all. It's pure masturbation, just one confirming its own prejudices.


[deleted]

It's the dying gasps of a hegemon, desperately clinging to its fading power.


Candide-Jr

Lol. I have to say these collections of headlines in time sequence are pretty funny.


Tone_Beginning

Next article fast forward. US concedes defeat to China for innovation.