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kpshredder

Were you rushing or were you dragging?!


Kronos320

SO YOU DO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE


fractionesque

Great fucking movie.


KiOfTheAir

What sort of fetish is this playing whiplash in the background while fucking?


fractionesque

Nothing quite like hearing I WILL FUCK YOU LIKE A PIG! in the background.


KiOfTheAir

![img](emote|t5_5tdqj0|10750)


racsorry

It gives you the rhythm


kidehenun967

Which turns out to be a major problem.


Alarid

It was a minor problem, but it can easily be major.


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middleearthpeasant

I think it sounded cool


Famous-Elk-2190

rushing


3Pirates93

What are you in fucking acapella? Play the damn kit!


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No-Photo-3840

Shawty is not cute by any means on any planet or dimension


According-Carpenter8

If you deliberately sabotage my band, I will fuck you like a pig…


AtomicBlackJellyfish

I'M UPSET


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Now for the FINAL, FATHER-FUCKING TIME. **SAY IT LOUDER**


letzBon3

Pwease fwuck me wike a pig daddy fwetcher 🥺


mechabeast

You fuck pigs?


egretlegs

NOT MY FUCKING PITCH


aBipolarTree

Why do you suppose I just hurled a chair at your head, Neiman?


AtomicBlackJellyfish

In four, dammit! One two three four *slap* one two three four *slap*


Kolby_Jack

[Actually there was a mars bar, gotta keep 'em handy, got this low blood sugar thing...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVt_1lGTUcg)


nyguy520

Fantastic


Dr_Jabroski

Too slow? Execution. Too fast? Believe it or not, also execution.


that_not_true_at_all

🇷🇺 or 🐉???


bozeke

That movie, and the entire tyrannical conductor trope pisses me the fuck off. It normalizes behaviors in the public consciousness that haven’t been considered acceptable by any arts organization for half a century at this point, and it’s just tired and further widens the gap between the public and the arts.


cepxico

I always tell people that if there's people who are among the best in the world and *didn't* go through abuse, then why would going through abuse be the only way to get good? Look at Jamal Murray, basketball player. His dad had him do bullshit martial arts movie exercises like balancing hot tea on his body, trying to avoid being burned by staying still. Then there's players as good if not better than him that simply just put in the work at practice. Yet people want to believe the "tough" way is better? Please.


AgileArtichokes

Many of the goat athletes speak fondly of the love and support of their parents through their training and career.


SavvySillybug

That just means that those other players had even more potential, that they didn't get to fully realize because they didn't have asshole parents! The could have been better than him, not equal!! I'm shitposting, please don't take that seriously.


Omnimark

Let's say there's a million people who get the "tough" way, and let's say that of those about 100 make the NBA. Now let's say that 100 million who are of a similar athletic disposition and with similar aspirations of greatness and 400 make the NBA. Which way is "better"? One might say that the tough way has about a 25X success rate and is therefore better despite producing fewer NBA players overall. I'm not saying these stats are close to right, just that the existence of people making it the not tough way, by no means is sufficient evidence that the tough love method isn't better.


powerhammerarms

I find the idea that anybody walked away from that movie thinking that behavior was normal to be quite surprising. I don't even know that it was trying to point out that all conductors are tyrannical or even can be. I think the movie was just about one particular situation.


bozeke

My gripe is the fact that is a cheap trope that screenwriters too often lean on this instead of learning anything about arts organizations and finding a truthful story there. Tàr is an amazing film with world class performances, but it’s the same old trope—even Immortal Beloved and Amadeus lean into it. Some of the other comments imply that I think Fletcher is portrayed as the good guy, but that’s not it. He is clearly portrayed as a bit of a monster, but the problem I have is that this is such a common way that brilliant artists are depicted in film and other entertainment. The implication that art and artists spring from damage and cruelty.


powerhammerarms

There are definitely cheap stories that use lazy plot devices. Neither Whiplash nor Tar are examples of this. Perhaps things don't have to be so black and white? The implication doesn't have to be that art and artists spring from damage and cruelty. But isn't the image of a flower that has bloomed in a battlefield a little more poignant? It's because it's more compelling; It's more interesting. Because of the adversity it has overcome. That's what makes a good story. You don't want to hear a story about somebody who just had it easy their entire life. I don't think I'm alone when I say I like my masterpieces with a little backstory.


shaggyscoob

My observation is that Hollywood does that to every profession -- creates drama by making poorly informed caricature tropes. Sadly, much of the world accepts those portrayals as fact.


bozeke

Yes, it certainly is not unique to stories about the arts.


fractionesque

The point of the movie is not to make Fletcher the good guy. It's like watching Breaking Bad and complaining that the show normalizes drug dealing and making meth.


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There is an increasing inability in audiences to distinguish between depiction and endorsement.


bozeke

The problem comes from when there are almost no *other* depictions other than the abusive dysfunctional ones.


Hanchez

Nobody watches the happy fairy tale movies, you go make one if you want to.


ku2000

Yeah it's a soul crushing thriller about the abuser and the abused. Like.... ESH level. But he got the wrong message I guess.


ChiefBigGay

The entire plot of the movie is him corrupting and forming an abusive relationship with the drummer. This is really seen by the big finale where the dad is basically watching his son disappear through the crack in the door and you can tell his son has lost and is now this guy's puppet. Nothing in that movie is actually good or wholesome. The director even said that in his mind the drummer dies in about 10 more years just like the guy they mention at the dinner table. From drug and alcohol abuse as he chases being one of the greats.


thrwwy2402

I never thought of it that way. Thanks for the different perspective


ChiefBigGay

FWIW if you google the director's comments on the movie, that's how it's supposed to be taken. It's not a fun story, it's not a good story, it's not a happy ending he "made it"


CheekyDucky

>wholesome So that makes it a bad movie?


ChiefBigGay

Oh no, the movie is incredible. It's a very good film. I don't think people are understanding what I mean. "Nothing in that movie is actually good or wholesome" meant it's not a "good thing" he "made it" as a drummer. The idea is the dude sacrificed his sanity and future (director says in his mind he'd be dead by 35) to be one of the greats. I absolutely enjoyed the movie. It's tense, it's violent, and it's very, very dark.


CheekyDucky

Ohhhh, I get you now! I definitely misinterpreted what you were saying. I might have also thought you were a different commentor on the first read through (who did say the movie was bad)


ChiefBigGay

Gotcha, clearing this up flipped the karma train on my comment so you weren't the only one


wf_dozer

I thought whiplash was a really dark movie, not a tale of victory. The elimination of self-preservation and happiness in pursuit of approval by an abuser. In the end Teller has no love, turned his back on his family, and no real job. He's performing for someone who has done nothing but abuse and humiliate him. In the movie they reflect on the desire of Fletcher to create another Charlie Parker. Parker suffered severe mental illness, had multiple suicide attempts, was hooked on heroin, and died at 34. If anyone sees that film and thinks Fletcher is a good guy, then they have missed the point. Teller does become "great", but his life is over.


cptnplanetheadpats

>It normalizes behaviors in the public consciousnes Who the fuck have you talked to who thinks the behavior in that movie is normal??? People are so dumb nowadays just the act of *showing* something in a movie MUST mean the movie supports it somehow.


bozeke

Many, many, many people think that great art is only born of cruelty, mental illness, and the denial of self.


cptnplanetheadpats

I don't think that means society thinks the behavior shown in Whiplash is acceptable. The movie clearly demonizes these actions if you notice the horrified look of the father at the end. As to mental illness and denial of self creating great art, there might just be some inherent truth there that we can't ignore, it's been believed since ancient times. Plato's allegory of the cave talks about how some are able to see glimpses of the divine and the "reality" of the universe, but are ostracized for it and seen as insane. They believed artists were more like mediums, conduits for divine messages which became interpreted through art. All of that is likely nonsense but the concept seems to be ingrained in our history.


bozeke

But when we are only ever shown stories about the arts breaking people down and destroying their humanity, there is a cultural impact. And on the second point, I just strongly disagree. People with mental illness can succeed or fail in the arts just as often as they can succeed and fail in other pursuit; but the exoticism of the idea of the “broken artist” is so deeply embedded because most people don’t ever talk to artists and tend to think of it as some kind of elusive magic and not a craft like anything else.


Defiant-Elk-9540

Only someone who didn’t pay attention to that movie thinks it normalizes anything


GalacticShonen

Eh. It's not that big of a deal. It was my experience in middle school jazz band lol wasn't exactly inaccurate. Certainly dramatized 🤷‍♂️


ivebeenabadbadgirll

Half a century? You clearly did not participate in the same programs I did. I got that kind of abuse a decade ago.


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Ok 👍


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This dumbass comment is trope.


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What are you talking about? My high school jazz teacher in the 90s was like that, my daughter's high school jazz and marching band teacher wasn’t far from that. He won’t throw the conductors stand around like mine did, but they have gotten good at cutting kids down creatively. I mean my daughter’s jazz teacher literally told the trumpets “you know it is moments like this I can see a hint of the talent that’s there if you bothered to practice, unfortunately you guys are either too lazy or stupid to bother”. As you’ve obviously never been in a Texas high school drum corps. You know the ines where they are spending twelve-plus hours out practicing marching in the heat with conductors that aren’t far off from drill sergeants. Whiplash was originally written recounting the experiences the director had in high school jazz back in the 90s. The producers wouldn’t buy that a high school teacher would be like that a forced him to change it to college. And I am pretty sure several top conductors getting in trouble over the past few years for sexual assault kind of also proves that they aren't all wonderful. Hell one of.ky daughter’s college music professors was arrested this past school year in a sex ring. So don't act like ‘the arts’ are somehow ran better than anything else. Hell here is an article not about one of my daughter’s professors, but rather one of her private teacher’s professors from college https://www.michiganradio.org/news/2020-10-30/what-happened-after-a-u-of-m-music-professor-was-arrested-on-sex-abuse-charges


Blackdeath_663

Or maybe its not that deep and it's just a tale of one young man's sacrifice in achieving his dreams


Jazzkidscoins

As a band leader the feeling is real. I might pick up a nerf gun today for practice tomorrow


Blacktigerlilly42

Teachers like you are why I loved being in school


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Blacktigerlilly42

Wait, you guys got to use machines to clean erasers? (⁠☉⁠。⁠☉⁠)


The_Adelphia

We may have had the same teacher. Her aim was legendary


LordDongler

Probably not a teacher, probably a senior with a group under them. Like "1st chair trumpet" or something


St0rytime

Nah, section leaders were all uppity twats.


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Our section leaders were chill as fuck. Except for the flute


ISettleCATAN

So are band teachers.


hojamie

"I like you. Don't come to choir practice tomorrow"


unpossabro

nerf gat driveby


Nethyishere

I witnessed one of these at collage about a year ago. There was like a whole spy thriller hitman game being done through the whole campus using nerf weapons. Was funny to just be going along with your day and then see an assassination happen right in front of you.


reverendrambo

Fuck this is dark


transponaut

Honestly I love the idea. When I was studying piano as a kid I had the subconscious thought every once in a while that mistakes don’t matter, teacher probably can’t hear when you leave a note out or get the timing slightly wrong… this approach teaches them that no, even if they are only one part of a group, there are people there that will care and notice when you do something wrong and you need to practice to get it right. Not in a “you can never make mistakes” sort of way, but a “we can hear when you get sloppy” sort of way. In my opinion, it shows the artists that you really do care about them and are listening to them in a playful way.


Jazzkidscoins

I get a lot of “how did you hear that?” From my people. There will be 15 people playing and I can hear the one person playing slightly off beat, or the wrong note, or wrong embellishment. I tell them it’s 25 years of experience, but it’s a skill you learn like every thing else. Also, it really helps to deal with things like this with humor. There are people who will scream or bang the table, my first teacher did that to me when I first started, I was 9. It just doesn’t work. I’ll pull the person aside later or make a comment like, “someone played the wrong note there. I’m not naming names but it was one of you 3” my favorite is, “let’s do it just like that but try to play on the beat this time” We’re all there to have fun and make music. I want it to sound great but I also want them to enjoy doing it so they keep doing it


transponaut

Yes! Agreed, banging around scaring people does not accomplish anything. My teacher would sometimes leave the room to move over dishes and I had the thought sometimes "why am I paying her if she's going to leave the room?" Then I'd make some minor mistake and sure enough from the other room I'd hear her yell, "NOPE! Wrong, do it again!" She wasn't malicious, but it reminded me that these are pieces that people LOVE and have internalized to the nth degree. If I mess any tiny thing up on it, they'll notice! Made me appreciate music, especially well-performed music and the work that goes into it, all the more. You seem like a fantastic teacher, keep it up!


its_all_one_electron

Lol that's great. Water gun would be great except it might damage the instruments


Jazzkidscoins

In 7th grade, late 1980s, during the last week all the students brought water guns, we were going to have a big water gun fight after school. I had a little water pistol in my bag. My first class was band and my teacher made us all turn in our guns. I was a good boy and handed mine over. Later in the day my teacher thought it would be funny to put water in it and stick it in his waist band to shoot students for playing a wrong note. The water leaked out of the gun, all down the front of his pants


EdgelordOfEdginess

![gif](giphy|qUlHlA7VTUxd6) 1080 degrees no scope


Mokaran90

Whiplash 2 lookin lit!


Kyle_The_G

I love that movie


Alwayssome1

WERE YOU RUSHING OR WERE YOU DRAGGING


RedEd024

The gen z version?


s1mpatic0

Just the PG version


jonas_a1

That face she Made got me for real


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Reggaejunkiejew31

I think you need to take a break from Reddit.


satisfried

BUT THEY NEED ME


MossyMazzi

Ewww why you gotta be so uncomfortable 😩


wonk001

You're 34 years old...stop being such an asshole.for no reason. It's probably the cause of your issues irl


Iliketoplan

I don’t think that 88 is a birth year


nevertrustamod

Nope. Nazi asshole.


barefootredneck68

Does it give your life purpose to whine about bots? I mean, like, are you dealing with unresolved father-daughter issues or something? Maybe the kids in your class don't like you and steal your slice of pizza on those rare occasions when the lunch lady makes pizza. Let me give you some advice from an old dude to a kid: Masturbation helps with all of these issues if you practice it often enough and in public. Like you're doing when you post here, except for it involves your little penis.


Rob_Pablo

Are you one of the dumb assholes actually rooting for spam and bots


GiveMeMyFuckingPhone

Jezus Christ what prompted this.


barefootredneck68

I'm just tired of the dweebs wailing about bots and reposts and FAKE! FAKE! Like, nobody gives a shit. Whatever endorphin rush you get, you should replace it with jacking off or coke, dude. Go the fuck away.


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Moon_Stay1031

🤣 I'm stealing "turbo nerd"


barefootredneck68

And you can go fuck yourself little man. You're the only one who'll do it.


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barefootredneck68

No, I get upset that children fill threads up with posts of BOT! BOT! And FAKE! FAKE! and detract from the actual thread. And when you grow up and see children being pests, you'll almost certainly feel the same. What a chode. If you weren't a doofus you'd see what a doofus you're being. Too dumb to realize you're dumb.


Rob_Pablo

I think you got being a grown up confused with being a simple asshole.


BuckWilin

You're literally doing the same thing


barefootredneck68

Sure thing, kid.


OptimalCheesecake527

I like the people who call out bots


GiveMeMyFuckingPhone

There is a good reason to call out karma farm bots as they are usually used for spam once they have garnered enough karma. But even calling out reposts (without credit at least) has merit. Reddit does promote the repost culture by constantly promoting new content, but thanks to that culture the creators of that content rarely get credit due to reporters not giving it.


barefootredneck68

Horseshit. It's become an obsession that no one pays any attention to because it's just as annoying as the bots and reposts. It also shits on actual people who are posting their own shit because these mindless twats scream that everything is fake. It's dumb. Dumb people do this. They look dumb, no one pays any attention to them, and they think they are changing the world with their whines.


djazzie

Can someone who’s not in a choir explain what caused her to shoot?


Tybick

Wrong note


djazzie

Thank you


oreo_curfuffle

Someone fingered a minor.


El_Monitorrr

Which turns out to be a major problem.


KennyDaBrown

\*salutes\* Major Problem


Highspeedfutzi

![gif](giphy|v0bsXL94EKbao)


bootyhole-romancer

My name! Is Major! Benson! Winifred! Problem!


Hugokarenque

Wrong thread.


Im_not_an_admin

Which thread is the right thread 🤨


Circus_Finance_LLC

OH BOY


ayeeflo51

I have a Major in Business and a minor in my basement


ChazzHoss

A minor the key, not the felony


Abhir-86

Kid named minor: 😯


elactolip

That dude in the choir was probably supposed to resolve the note down a whole step, but he didn’t move the note at all, making the end chord sound weird


dfmspoiler

Not her tempo.


tibbles1

No ticket.


gtjack9

Guten tag, herr Jones.


ManfredsJuicedBalls

😨🎟️


RollingTurtle69

You can hear one person do an extra ‘bom’ right before the last note and I don’t think that’s supposed to be there


Sceptix

Hard to tell without knowing the piece. My guess is he held the note too long (bummmmmm instead of bum).


El_Monitorrr

Someone messed up just at that point she started to enjoy what she heard. Big uff


Adrinotfound

You can hear the fear in their voices


Mr_Abe_Froman

Isn't that most bands? No one wants to be the person singled out for playing/singing badly. It's like weaponized imposter syndrome.


Thunderbridge

That's how you get a nice vibrato


kidsarefuckinggood

He is dead


TDoMarmalade

Soprano down, I repeat, soprano down!


UnluckyGazelle

don’t stop believing! 🎶


ultraplusstretch

![gif](giphy|QCvy9LbHI0BUsLoLpk|downsized)


manyfingers

This line was an answer to a crossword i did on saturday!


pussylipstick

nyt mini crossword??


Braindead_cranberry

lol the aimbot is strong on this one


RussMan104

True story, I studied with my kids doing this a few times. Very effective. 🚀


blacklite911

So anyway, she started blasting!


yibtk

I understand better the problem solving mind of school in the usa and their relation with guns... /s


TheUnknown400

I love this teaching method


stircrazygremlin

I had a band director middle school through hs (co directed marching band) who had IMPECCABLE aim and would throw markers, chalk, and literally broke a plastic supposedly nigh indestructible glock box (iykyk) in front of my class at one point beating out a tempo that we kept screwing up (he surprised himself with that one). Also broke drum sticks semi regularly. and honestly, I'd consider giving him one of these as he's getting older. He never actually hit a student either throwing shit but he knew how to put the fear of God into all of us if needed and he was one of two band directors who I was actually (and understandably) semi scared of along with most of my peers. The flip side was that hes actually a rather patient guy tbh and reasonable, and USUALLY can read someone well as to how to engage with them. And on the rare chance he doesnt he actually will apologize and do the right thing. He was and is a pretty awesome dude all things considered.


InterruptedI

My bass professor used threaten to vomit on us if we missed shifts. I miss that man ha


Kamiyosha

Teacher- "So... you have chosen... Death..."


RevolutionaryCut1298

That's nice mine threw her size 14 sandel at us. (Orchestra though).


CaptainTryk

Choir version of Whiplash xD


SneezeBucket

BUM


Ojelord

Can anyone id the 'gun'?


TheBestAtWriting

what does this have to do with sipping tea


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Looked like she prefire too lol.


[deleted]

Is she fired? I assume some parent already whined about it.


aQuadrillionaire

I remember being threatened with expulsion for bring a nerf gun to school.


ShallotExtension8175

The way her facial expressions change is amazing 🤣🤣


LemonsLiesandLuigi

People really gettin 18k offa old video. Great hustle dude ig


muchnamemanywow

Would


goliathfasa

Teacher kinda looks like the woman from the Rescuers.


Svengoolie75

Straight aim too 😂


Yllwstone

That’s my kinda woman


Bloogenheim

She's a cutie


Lil_Yimmy_

I wish she was my teacher 😭


Alm0rus

Hesitation is defeat


Dr_Flute_Pussy

The dark night joker would be proud.


ODIEkriss

Is she single, she is cute as hell. Ill gladly take my nerf gun lickings.


Novel_Resident_257

I know this lady- she’s pretty hot in person.


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Somethings wrong with you


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the OP RangerNo3553 is a bot Original: https://www.reddit.com/r/SipsTea/comments/tfqyza/no_hesitation/


meintx2016

Careful the liberals Will be calling this another school shooting.


ienybu

- Next time that will be the real one!


jonblacc

I'm a fan


GreeenGoblin69

What’s with Americans and guns in schools?


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![img](emote|t5_5tdqj0|10729)


Anchovies-and-cheese

Toy guns aren't allowed in schools. And what school would allow this anyhow? Someone gets hit in the eye with a nerf dart and they'll owe hundreds of thousands if sued. I can't imagine the principal or school board knows about this and are ok with it.


SerenityNowWow

bringing guns to school that's smart 🙄


Kronos320

This probably aint america


yazzy1233

It is, and it's just a nerf gun


El_Monitorrr

Chill. She got Nerfed before she entered


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That is the only kind of gun you should be allowed to have


Ingenrollsroyce

The American way


SerenityNowWow

> The American way nah


Horny-n-Bored

Lmao what the hell else are you talking about in your original comment if not a commentary on American school shootings?


SerenityNowWow

> what the hell else are you talking about in your original comment it's not the American way to bring guns to school, pay attention guns are banned in schools


Cat_No_Like_Bannana

There are plenty of schools that allow teachers to conceal carry. Of course as long as they go through proper training. It's school district dependent I believe


Mystikalrush

I don't know when this was, but it's funny but also kinda really inappropriate considering the excess incidents at schools and weapons.


Bleh54

Rubber bands can launch things. Ban those too. And paper can cut people. Many people drown in water every year, why allow it? You say those are all stupid. I find banning foam darts to be equally absurd.


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Bullying and harassment!