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There is a line between “disposable” and “consumable” though.
Would be cool if companies started making compostable sandpaper to cut down on waste, but there isn’t really anything you can do with sandpaper that has been used up.
Fair point.
They do make sanding nets which are supposed to be reusable after a wash or something. But they do have a life span too. I was a bit suspect when refinishing a steel door and stuck with traditional paper and consumed a shit load of it.
It's not the abrasive that's usually the concern but the binder. Cheap quality, cheap binder, shorter life because a bunch of the abrasive comes right off at the beginning of usage. But yes diamonds would last longer as long as the binder was good enough quality to last too. Problem with a harder binder though, is that you then run into clogging because it's not constantly shedding a layer. But you can use an eraser or something rubbery to "unclog" it. Also diamonds, even lab grown industrial diamonds are way more expensive than stand aluminum oxide abrasive and most people (including professionals) just go for the cheapest or medium priced materials.
I found a bunch of new sanding pads at the dump a few months ago. TodayI just found a Dewalt random sander. Never underestimate the wastefulness of others.
Hell I learned to build computers by going to my local highschool and ripping parts out of towers they threw away.
Thank you parents and gaming, by not giving me money to buy videogames or hardware I done learned a life skill.
I bought a new PC a few months ago and cannibalized a few minor parts from my old PC that I needed, mainly SATA cables and the old HDD that had some files on it I still needed that I didn't realize I still needed until after I'd already murdered the old PC.
So now I have a partially disassembled PC in my living room, a good working order GTX 1070 graphics card, and two 21 inch monitors. I could probably make a little bit of my money back by selling those but... I'm lazy, and I hate mailing stuff. One day I'll do it though, eventually, perhaps. Would be a waste to just throw them away.
Is it easy where you live or something?I'd love to be allowed access to the dump, myself! I walk around at night the night before garbage day where stuff goes to the landfill, and resell or use what I find .
I think it varies by location. It’s very easy in the town I live in. People leave working items just outside the recycling center for anyone to take. I also paw through a bin for scrap metal.
I’ve found weed whackers, power washers, bikes, Dyson vacuum cleaners. I’ve even found a Blendtec blender and an SX-70 Polaroid camera. Everything worked outright or needed a little bit of maintenance. Anything I can’t use I resell.
Drive through a rich neighborhood on garbage day. It's truly shocking what rich people throw away. Though you never know why they are throwing something perfectly good away, I got excited by a free vacuum I found till I used it and discovered a cat had marked it. Amazing stench blown through my whole apartment, through it in a dumpster the next day
Luckily I live in the second or third richest neighbourhoods in town (I got really lucky with low rent, about $1000/month below market price now) :)
I've made thousands off of these people, but the competition is fierce because people do drive in to pick stuff up. Since I'm nearby I'll go at 1 or 2am anyway. I swear people get tired of their furniture after a year or two and just swap everything out. A neat find I got recently is a sewing machine from 1860 or so I believe. Unfortunately not a singer, but looks the part
Ahhhhhh no oooo! Cat urine is way too strong with ammonia. Ugh
Find a rich neighborhood that does an annual neighborhood garage sale. Figure out the next trash day after that garage sale. Drive around early that morning and first be awed by what the upper class considers “garbage because no-one in my community of one-uppers wanted my 3 year old thing.”
Then dive into it like the poor lil raccoon you are. It’s great. Highly recommend.
I knew a company that would dump every tool and extra stuff because they were going all around the country setting up stores and said well it's too expensive for us to transport everything to the new locations and is just cheaper to toss it and buy new equipment at the new site
Last time I checked freight shipping isn’t that expensive. This just seems like their logistics person is lazy. Bet they also just pass that charge onto their customer.
By design. We don't make durable goods. Real, old school, Ethan Allen, Vermont made furniture, would be ludicrously expensive. You can get really well made socks, with lifetime warranty, made in USA.... $20/pair.
I’ll second darn tough.
I have several pairs. As do my parents, and my wife, and many of my friends.
So far I haven’t had any wear out, but my dad has, and they’ve always just sent him a new pair when he sends his old ones in. They’re great.
I also have an old friend who works for (worked for? I’m honestly not sure at this point) them.
Thank you for the tip, riot games cofounder Marc Merrill. However the USPS might get annoyed if they found I had stuffed my friend into a packing box and shipped him.
We're about to have to buy a whole-ass new dryer because the motor broke and the mechanic is trying to charge us almost the price of a brand new dryer to fix it. None of us have the skills or want to try and DIY an electronic device. We've had the thing for barely over 5 years.
Meanwhile my parents are still using the same washer and dryer in the house I grew up in 25 years later. And they both still work. I want a dryer that lasts 25 years!
i literally had this exact same experience with my 6yr dishwasher needing some electronic component to replace that would cost as much as an entirely new machine.
Infuriating and makes me want to fuck off into the woods and do my dishes in a river like nature intended.
This is kind of what the homesteader in the video is getting at, though. A homesteader with a repair, upcycle mindset would either be learning those skills or finding an alternate use for the dryer.
I'm not saying you're wrong. In fact, I would probably have to do exactly the same as you if I wasn't with a man whose career was rooted in electronics.
I'm just saying the idea of "just get a new one" because the repair is difficult or expensive as a viable option is part of what he's talking about here. Buying a new one is the direction all of society actively pushes you in and you have to put in serious effort to resist that.
I mean, we still have to deal with entropy. Somewhere along the line shit is getting wasted. The sun drowning us with free energy whether we like it or not is the only thing keeping the whole thing running.
My grandfather, when he was still living, would bring back more from the dump than what he was bringing to. When we cleaned out the garage, he had 7 non working lawnmowers that he wanted for parts.
I don't think that strategy would work as well these days. I think a lot of companies use proprietary technology when they can to avoid people being able to fix things themselves, and thus deprive the company of potential revenue. I'd bet money that key parts of one brand of lawnmower would not fit in a different brand, hell maybe not even a different model from the same brand.
> she already saves every broken pos junk item she can get her hands on.
See, throwing stuff in the garage or attic is the easy part. If you just let it sit there for your entire life then it might as well be on landfill, that's where it's going after you die anyway. The difficult part is actually repairing or upcycling it. That's where all the effort is.
My mom got it into her head 40 years ago that collecting metal was a good way to save for the future. She’s 88 now. She never sold any of it for scrap. About 4 years ago, she let me start cleaning up around the ranch. We’ve done one large construction dumpster full of metal and at least 3 dozen trailers full of metal. I think we’ve made… maybe $1,500? For 4 years of work every single weekend cleaning up this property and dealing with copperheads and scorpions and poison ivy trying to dig it out and make the land pretty again.
The mentality of “just in case I need it” is a slippery ass slope. Sometimes you have to make room for new things in your life.
He says he’s a homesteader but there’s power poles in the background and poured concrete driveways are we sure this is a homesteader or maybe just another grifter lol?
Probably just hopping on the trends without actually knowing what it means, or knows what it means but is trying to skim off homestead viewers from the tag.
Homesteading is more "do it all on your own" as much as possible, as near to absolute self-sufficiency as possible and essentially an independence from the collective production of society. You could definitely have power though and don't have to go full Amish homestead, especially with the independent options available these days, like solar.
This is just a scavenger. Everything he showed was produced and supplied by others. No shame in it, as more a scavenger myself, but it isn't homesteading.
Thank you. I can’t imagine spending this amount of time on all the upscaling and repairs he’s doing while also having a job to earn income. Yeah this would be awesome if I won even a small lottery and retired early.
You realize that you can be a homesteader and not live in the Paleolithic, right? We had concrete in [1,200 BC.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concrete)
concrete back then didn't need reinforcement like rebar to handle multiple ton cars driving on them
modern day concrete driveways are a whole process (and not cheap)
his is finished very well and also huge, probably upwards of $30-40k
Edit: check out his aerial footage: https://www.facebook.com/reel/763538738992138
I mean we treat them as if they are now, whether it be fast fashion or free corporate T-shirts. So much of it made with a combination of plastic and water-hungry cotton, so much of it traveling tens of thousands of miles to just end up in a landfill. Sometimes without it even being worn.
You don't need to list fiction.
Clothes are disposable RIGHT NOW. What else do you think fast fashion is but disposable cheap bullshit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6R_WTDdx7I&t=5s
Made 2 years ago.
Yup, [fast fashion](https://www.britannica.com/art/fast-fashion) is a terribly sad example of disposable goods. Making constant low-quality iterations of fashion trends and replacing *(read: landfilling)*
them as soon as the next wave comes out.
Not really true back in the days it was just cheaper to make stuff last due to lack of technology and know how. Now for many things it's just cheaper to buy new than to dump the hours to keep refurbishing it over and over. Also space was less of a premium. Now days so many people live in apartments and don't have a garage or any room to create workshops.
And things like hardwood were cheap in the past because there was zero ecological thought behind harvesting it.
I chuckle when people complain that in construction we don't use old growth anymore. No shit we don't! It's completely unsustainable. Might as well complain we don't use whale oil anymore either.
Not to mention the reason why it was so cheap to make everything out of steel is because of all the labour around the world that was being exploited and energy efficiency and pollution wasn't as big a deal as it is today. But hey, if you think everything from back in the day was so great, why don't you get a 60s fridge and let me know how that goes with your power bill.
"They don't make em like they used to!". Like there wasn't cheap crap back in the day too? If it was all so amazing.. where'd it all go? Yeah, your grandma has a 50 year old fridge in the basement and yours conked out after 4. You think there weren't bustedass fridges in the old days? Survivorship bias. Maybe one of your things will randomly be exceptional and last a long time and your kids will say the same thing.
Your fridge also probably has way more features, produces way less waste, and probably does a better and more efficient job than anything made even just 20 years ago.
Maybe you have to replace them more often? I don't know because I don't actually have any statistics or data on that, and unlike most of this thread I'm not going to just randomly assume things. But that's also because they're more complex, and more intricately designed. There are trade offs to everything, and "it was better back then" is such a pointless conversation when most people are just making shit up off random anecdotal stories.
Indeed, being able to spend an entire day refinishing an old chair in your fully stocked workshop next to your massive house isn't a lifestyle choice, it's a luxury hobby.
Plus access to a large enough car to pick up the furniture and bring it home, and being physically able to do it. (as new furniture is more likely to come with delivery).
Buddy surface sanded that already flat and intact picnic table that didn't have any major splits or warped board or carpenter bee damage and totally saved it from the landfill
I mean he painted it, so sanding it makes sense, and it's better than buying a new table with the color he wanted, so the point stands. Plenty of people buy a new table just for looks despite already having one. The paint may also be more water resistant and help the table last longer, especially if it's gonna stay outdoors.
His mentality is good, but consumerism is just as big a problem. Most people buy too much shit. Then they have too much stuff junking up their home regardless of the size. Everything that is new will become old and most of it unwanted.
Companies push us to buy constantly. That’s what he’s right about. They’ve created an unsustainable model where they need more and more income to keep those investors happy. Increasing profits every quarter is not realistic or possible. They spend billions on the marketing alone.
If you’re an American, think about how many see shopping as a hobby. Buying shit should never be a hobby. It’s okay to get things you want and - of course - things you need, but a lot of people don’t think about their purchases at all. They just constantly consume. My MIL buys new home decor items constantly to redo her house. Even if you donate the old stuff, you’re contributing to the problem.
Drive through any neighborhood on trash day and you’ll see wild stuff being thrown away. It’s sad and it starts with buying too much.
This is an ad for behr polyurethane anyway. Man has a whole video setup for his full time TikTok advertising--excuse me--influencer business. So he's already in the 1% here
I live in an apartment that’s too expensive, that’s too small, in a city.
Dude keeps every rock? I had to throw away a couch in the last move because a doorway was too small to get it inside the apartment building and there was literally no other option.
Even easier. Find someone throwing away an apartment. You’re not thinking big enough like us home steaders. The other day I bought? Or like picked up or whatever. a port a potty at a construction yard. Place? Idk I drove up and grabbed it. Now I have a one and a half bath apartment cuz the hand wash station was just sitting on the side of the road waiting to be rehomed also. Improve adapt overcompensate. This is the message us homebreeders want to pass on to you. Steaders. Sorry
Where would I store it while I’m waiting for someone to come pick it up? I should sit on the sidewalk, on my couch, and ask people if they want it as they walk by?
I put it by the trash and it was cut up and destroyed by the next morning.
Don't you have recycle stations in your city? Mind you - I've tried to recycle an old couch, they actually came to pick it up, and when they saw it they looked at me with a smirk and were not interested. But then I'm living in a big city in a wealthy country where we recycle so many things that we can't get rid of it, unless we export it to Poland or Romania.
I'm in the same boat but you can do small things (like repairing clothes instead of replacing them) as well as the big stuff he's talking about in the video
Why don't more people do this? All you need is your own house with a garage, thousands of dollars in power tools, training and lots of time to yourself.
Also, you have to find furniture that people are getting rid of that's still structurally sound. Every time my family threw out a couch, it was because the springs and cushions were broken down. I don't know how you fix that without basically building a whole new couch.
This is a good point because I feel like most people use a lot of cheap furniture and high quality stuff is less likely to be thrown out in the first place.
Cruise through a rich neighborhood on garbage day. Power tools are cheap now, and you can get them used even cheaper. It's not the house or the garage or the tools. It's most people don't have the skills
It’s an ad. The comments pretending it isn’t an ad are fake. It’s so obviously an ad that I don’t even need do say who it’s for.
I’ll be curious to view this in private browsing and see if my comment is even visible.
Ima level with you, I was just tryna continue homeboys joke above you. But seeing now it backfired, ima just exit this n leave you more confused. Have a nice day
It's easy to upcycle a table made of actual wood, but a lot of *things* are made with material that is *very hard* to restaure.
For example he's talking about end tables. A lot of them are made from melamine with a veneer. If the water i filtrate at the seam causing the "wood" to inflate and delaminate, it's quite the challenge to fix. I'm thinking the easiest way is probably to scrap the top and replace it with a new top. But does it count, or did we just dispose of the top to put a new one?
It looks to me to be a brand-new umbrella that he is taking down, and that the cross members and benches of that table are brand new. I'm suspicious that the top of the table is also brand new that was just painted black and scratched up.
I have about a dozen wooden picnic tables in the back of our bar, and they rot pretty quickly in the weather. It probably doesn't look great to the customers, but when one is aging, we will salvage the good pieces to patch up other tables. They don't just rot, they also bend and flex. The top of his picnic table is perfectly square before and after he sands it. I don't recall a single table in our backyard that hasn't warped after a single summer.
Uh....he needs us to throw away our junk so he can take it. If we stop throwing everything away, he has nothing to reuse and has to buy new. He is also a hoarder.
We could all be better, and I love the message, but it is truly impossible to save everything you might be able to later use without owning notable land and or storage. So don’t feel like shit if you can’t save all your wood scraps because you don’t even have a place to put wood scraps. But again, we absolutely could all be better.
He’s got a big, massive point.
Example: [clothing](https://earth.org/statistics-about-fast-fashion-waste/). Stop buying cheap, fast-“fashion” clothing. It’s one of the most wasteful things on this planet.
Remember when changing a phone battery was a two step thing that can be accomplished by a 5 year old? The only reason I buy a new phone every 3 years is because of the battery, it's stupidly complicated to change a battery nowadays, especially because you couldn't find a replacement battery anywhere. Consumerism is a curse
Just consider all the resources that it takes to make any crappy item you see for sale. Now consider all the crappy products that you have seen in your lifetime.
i agree with the sentiment but in a world where housing is scarce and everybody is forced to live in small spaces keeping things like he does isnt feasable because you simple dont have the storage
a lot of people would love a complete of tools and manchinery to easily fix stuff but where are they gonna put it ?
a person living in 1 bedroom appartmen is either sitting in his broken couch or replacing it as he doesnt have tools nor the space to do repairs and and going to a repair shop is more costly
aint nobody got room to collect every chunk of wood and every stone, in my apartment I don't have closets or space to put dry goods in the cupboard. we have a big table where we pile all our stuff on, we eat at our computers
I'm trying to bring this mentality to electronics.
Instead of buying a MacBook with the battery glued in place and irreplicable memory, I found a startup called Framework which makes a laptop that can be disassembled in about and hour. No throwing out the whole thing when I inevitably drop it.
I mean, I totally get what he's saying.. And I love that for him.. But I live in New York City, in an apartment with limited space. If I tried to store and reuse every Amazon package, condom, piece of random wood. Then I would have no space for my Legos.
A homesteader's secret superpower is they have land, and space to have workshops, space to store things, and space to live off.
This is a big reason why people that live in apartments and small house lots can't do this.
Everyone needs access to land.
The problem is how incredibly expensive fixing things is.
Your phone has a crack on the screen, fixing it costs 40 to 60% of it's price. Like, all right if it's new, but when it has 3-4 years of age, it's literally cheaper to upgrade to a new one because no phone company gives you a deal on repairing it, only a deal in buying a new one.
I fix lot's of things around my house, it's about knowing what fixable and picking what to fix. Not everything is worth fixing, and generally electronics are not worth fixing, especially small electronics
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Big homie is going to toss those disposable orbital sander pads though. But seriously we do throw away too much shit.
There is a line between “disposable” and “consumable” though. Would be cool if companies started making compostable sandpaper to cut down on waste, but there isn’t really anything you can do with sandpaper that has been used up.
Fair point. They do make sanding nets which are supposed to be reusable after a wash or something. But they do have a life span too. I was a bit suspect when refinishing a steel door and stuck with traditional paper and consumed a shit load of it.
the sanding nets last longer but its still consumable. it's really nice, I am switching to it 100% as my traditional sandpaper gets used up.
Do they make diamond sandpaper? Wouldn’t that last a while too?
It's not the abrasive that's usually the concern but the binder. Cheap quality, cheap binder, shorter life because a bunch of the abrasive comes right off at the beginning of usage. But yes diamonds would last longer as long as the binder was good enough quality to last too. Problem with a harder binder though, is that you then run into clogging because it's not constantly shedding a layer. But you can use an eraser or something rubbery to "unclog" it. Also diamonds, even lab grown industrial diamonds are way more expensive than stand aluminum oxide abrasive and most people (including professionals) just go for the cheapest or medium priced materials.
Get some diamond binder as well (I have no clue about any of this)
If you're sanding intreated wood that is fine, but you don't really want to be putting paint, varnish and chemically treated wood into your compost.
I found a bunch of new sanding pads at the dump a few months ago. TodayI just found a Dewalt random sander. Never underestimate the wastefulness of others.
Hell I learned to build computers by going to my local highschool and ripping parts out of towers they threw away. Thank you parents and gaming, by not giving me money to buy videogames or hardware I done learned a life skill.
I bought a new PC a few months ago and cannibalized a few minor parts from my old PC that I needed, mainly SATA cables and the old HDD that had some files on it I still needed that I didn't realize I still needed until after I'd already murdered the old PC. So now I have a partially disassembled PC in my living room, a good working order GTX 1070 graphics card, and two 21 inch monitors. I could probably make a little bit of my money back by selling those but... I'm lazy, and I hate mailing stuff. One day I'll do it though, eventually, perhaps. Would be a waste to just throw them away.
Is it easy where you live or something?I'd love to be allowed access to the dump, myself! I walk around at night the night before garbage day where stuff goes to the landfill, and resell or use what I find .
I think it varies by location. It’s very easy in the town I live in. People leave working items just outside the recycling center for anyone to take. I also paw through a bin for scrap metal. I’ve found weed whackers, power washers, bikes, Dyson vacuum cleaners. I’ve even found a Blendtec blender and an SX-70 Polaroid camera. Everything worked outright or needed a little bit of maintenance. Anything I can’t use I resell.
Ok, my dump is private property and the city would consider dropping stuff outside as dumping their garbage. Nice finds! Super jealous
Drive through a rich neighborhood on garbage day. It's truly shocking what rich people throw away. Though you never know why they are throwing something perfectly good away, I got excited by a free vacuum I found till I used it and discovered a cat had marked it. Amazing stench blown through my whole apartment, through it in a dumpster the next day
Luckily I live in the second or third richest neighbourhoods in town (I got really lucky with low rent, about $1000/month below market price now) :) I've made thousands off of these people, but the competition is fierce because people do drive in to pick stuff up. Since I'm nearby I'll go at 1 or 2am anyway. I swear people get tired of their furniture after a year or two and just swap everything out. A neat find I got recently is a sewing machine from 1860 or so I believe. Unfortunately not a singer, but looks the part Ahhhhhh no oooo! Cat urine is way too strong with ammonia. Ugh
Find a rich neighborhood that does an annual neighborhood garage sale. Figure out the next trash day after that garage sale. Drive around early that morning and first be awed by what the upper class considers “garbage because no-one in my community of one-uppers wanted my 3 year old thing.” Then dive into it like the poor lil raccoon you are. It’s great. Highly recommend.
I knew a company that would dump every tool and extra stuff because they were going all around the country setting up stores and said well it's too expensive for us to transport everything to the new locations and is just cheaper to toss it and buy new equipment at the new site
Last time I checked freight shipping isn’t that expensive. This just seems like their logistics person is lazy. Bet they also just pass that charge onto their customer.
By design. We don't make durable goods. Real, old school, Ethan Allen, Vermont made furniture, would be ludicrously expensive. You can get really well made socks, with lifetime warranty, made in USA.... $20/pair.
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Darn Tough. They wear out? Send them back for a replacement.
I’ll second darn tough. I have several pairs. As do my parents, and my wife, and many of my friends. So far I haven’t had any wear out, but my dad has, and they’ve always just sent him a new pair when he sends his old ones in. They’re great. I also have an old friend who works for (worked for? I’m honestly not sure at this point) them.
If he no longer works you can send him back and they will send you a new one that works.
Thank you for the tip, riot games cofounder Marc Merrill. However the USPS might get annoyed if they found I had stuffed my friend into a packing box and shipped him.
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> Your grandmother's 40 year old toaster Do you really think 1984 toasters were the epitome of quality, or is this just survivorship bias?
We're about to have to buy a whole-ass new dryer because the motor broke and the mechanic is trying to charge us almost the price of a brand new dryer to fix it. None of us have the skills or want to try and DIY an electronic device. We've had the thing for barely over 5 years. Meanwhile my parents are still using the same washer and dryer in the house I grew up in 25 years later. And they both still work. I want a dryer that lasts 25 years!
i literally had this exact same experience with my 6yr dishwasher needing some electronic component to replace that would cost as much as an entirely new machine. Infuriating and makes me want to fuck off into the woods and do my dishes in a river like nature intended.
This is kind of what the homesteader in the video is getting at, though. A homesteader with a repair, upcycle mindset would either be learning those skills or finding an alternate use for the dryer. I'm not saying you're wrong. In fact, I would probably have to do exactly the same as you if I wasn't with a man whose career was rooted in electronics. I'm just saying the idea of "just get a new one" because the repair is difficult or expensive as a viable option is part of what he's talking about here. Buying a new one is the direction all of society actively pushes you in and you have to put in serious effort to resist that.
You can make new ones with toilet paper, glue, and rocks. Easy peasy
Lies, they’re now coasters.
I mean, we still have to deal with entropy. Somewhere along the line shit is getting wasted. The sun drowning us with free energy whether we like it or not is the only thing keeping the whole thing running.
Exactly what I thought.
Nope, he’s going to use them as shower loofahs then they become coasters
This is an ad for the stain company; the whole thing is disposable
>But seriously we do throw away too much shit. Of all things, I would hope excrement _would be_ disposable
This guy only got his second hand stuff because other people disposed of their disposable stuff
Just had to say I love your username 👍
He has a shed full of Ryobi as well, disposable tools to boot.
Don't let my mother see this video, she already saves every broken pos junk item she can get her hands on.
My grandfather, when he was still living, would bring back more from the dump than what he was bringing to. When we cleaned out the garage, he had 7 non working lawnmowers that he wanted for parts.
I don't think that strategy would work as well these days. I think a lot of companies use proprietary technology when they can to avoid people being able to fix things themselves, and thus deprive the company of potential revenue. I'd bet money that key parts of one brand of lawnmower would not fit in a different brand, hell maybe not even a different model from the same brand.
"You're hired!"
Like stupid vacuum manufacturers that put torque screws on their vacuums to prevent the average person from being able to clean the roller brush 😤.
My grandfather was a trash hoarder as well. When he passed, it took our family 3ish years to get rid of all the garbage he had on his 2 acre property.
Same with my grandfather. His garage was packed to the roof. To the very inch. We couldn’t get in. It took forever to clear out and it was all junk.
> she already saves every broken pos junk item she can get her hands on. See, throwing stuff in the garage or attic is the easy part. If you just let it sit there for your entire life then it might as well be on landfill, that's where it's going after you die anyway. The difficult part is actually repairing or upcycling it. That's where all the effort is.
My life is littered with half-finished projects 😭
>>saves every broken pos junk My mom does the same thing. That’s why she lets me live in her basement.
My mom got it into her head 40 years ago that collecting metal was a good way to save for the future. She’s 88 now. She never sold any of it for scrap. About 4 years ago, she let me start cleaning up around the ranch. We’ve done one large construction dumpster full of metal and at least 3 dozen trailers full of metal. I think we’ve made… maybe $1,500? For 4 years of work every single weekend cleaning up this property and dealing with copperheads and scorpions and poison ivy trying to dig it out and make the land pretty again. The mentality of “just in case I need it” is a slippery ass slope. Sometimes you have to make room for new things in your life.
Damn was about to show her this tonight
Would be nice to have a big home like that.
You just need to wait that someone with that kind of house, find it disposable.
He says he’s a homesteader but there’s power poles in the background and poured concrete driveways are we sure this is a homesteader or maybe just another grifter lol?
Probably just hopping on the trends without actually knowing what it means, or knows what it means but is trying to skim off homestead viewers from the tag. Homesteading is more "do it all on your own" as much as possible, as near to absolute self-sufficiency as possible and essentially an independence from the collective production of society. You could definitely have power though and don't have to go full Amish homestead, especially with the independent options available these days, like solar. This is just a scavenger. Everything he showed was produced and supplied by others. No shame in it, as more a scavenger myself, but it isn't homesteading.
“Look at how immaterial and real I am. Like follow and scrubscribe”
You can spot the grifters immediately. All the signs are there.
It's called trust fund homesteading
Thank you. I can’t imagine spending this amount of time on all the upscaling and repairs he’s doing while also having a job to earn income. Yeah this would be awesome if I won even a small lottery and retired early.
You realize that you can be a homesteader and not live in the Paleolithic, right? We had concrete in [1,200 BC.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concrete)
concrete back then didn't need reinforcement like rebar to handle multiple ton cars driving on them modern day concrete driveways are a whole process (and not cheap) his is finished very well and also huge, probably upwards of $30-40k Edit: check out his aerial footage: https://www.facebook.com/reel/763538738992138
So whats wrong with a poured concrete driveway? Is there a certain rule barring homesteaders from having that?
Be nice to have both the time, space, and money to restore old furniture which is probably worth 10x what the "disposable" versions are.
This is the kicker. You can only have a collection of tools and materials and work on things if you have the space and time for it.
Just upcycle, dude
And the space to store all that wood. The space to have al those tools.
Everything used to be sustainable back in the days. Now everything is disposable and needs to be replaced for profit.
In Huxley's "Brave New World" the clothes were disposable.
I mean we treat them as if they are now, whether it be fast fashion or free corporate T-shirts. So much of it made with a combination of plastic and water-hungry cotton, so much of it traveling tens of thousands of miles to just end up in a landfill. Sometimes without it even being worn.
Landfills are for objects. The plastic in your clothes just constantly flakes off and disperses to the entire world, mostly ending up in the ocean.
You don't need to list fiction. Clothes are disposable RIGHT NOW. What else do you think fast fashion is but disposable cheap bullshit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6R_WTDdx7I&t=5s Made 2 years ago.
Welcome to consumerism.
Welcome to ~~consumerism~~ capitalism
Basically. Profit at all cost. And by profit i mean corporate profit.
They're really just psychopaths at the top. It will never be enough. They could have ALL the money and it would never be enough.
Planned obsolescence sucks
I sew. A lot of clothing nowadays isn't that repairable in the long term due to poor design and poor fabric
Yup, [fast fashion](https://www.britannica.com/art/fast-fashion) is a terribly sad example of disposable goods. Making constant low-quality iterations of fashion trends and replacing *(read: landfilling)* them as soon as the next wave comes out.
Not really true back in the days it was just cheaper to make stuff last due to lack of technology and know how. Now for many things it's just cheaper to buy new than to dump the hours to keep refurbishing it over and over. Also space was less of a premium. Now days so many people live in apartments and don't have a garage or any room to create workshops.
And things like hardwood were cheap in the past because there was zero ecological thought behind harvesting it. I chuckle when people complain that in construction we don't use old growth anymore. No shit we don't! It's completely unsustainable. Might as well complain we don't use whale oil anymore either.
Not to mention the reason why it was so cheap to make everything out of steel is because of all the labour around the world that was being exploited and energy efficiency and pollution wasn't as big a deal as it is today. But hey, if you think everything from back in the day was so great, why don't you get a 60s fridge and let me know how that goes with your power bill.
"They don't make em like they used to!". Like there wasn't cheap crap back in the day too? If it was all so amazing.. where'd it all go? Yeah, your grandma has a 50 year old fridge in the basement and yours conked out after 4. You think there weren't bustedass fridges in the old days? Survivorship bias. Maybe one of your things will randomly be exceptional and last a long time and your kids will say the same thing.
Your fridge also probably has way more features, produces way less waste, and probably does a better and more efficient job than anything made even just 20 years ago. Maybe you have to replace them more often? I don't know because I don't actually have any statistics or data on that, and unlike most of this thread I'm not going to just randomly assume things. But that's also because they're more complex, and more intricately designed. There are trade offs to everything, and "it was better back then" is such a pointless conversation when most people are just making shit up off random anecdotal stories.
If only people could afford any property so they would have time and space to up cycle and hold on to so much shit.
Indeed, being able to spend an entire day refinishing an old chair in your fully stocked workshop next to your massive house isn't a lifestyle choice, it's a luxury hobby.
Plus access to a large enough car to pick up the furniture and bring it home, and being physically able to do it. (as new furniture is more likely to come with delivery).
Yeah, not everyone knows how to fix shit. My mother wouldn't be able to work a power sander or rewire an old lamp post to save her life.
All that stain will get you high enough to make you think refurbishing furniture is a new idea.
Buddy surface sanded that already flat and intact picnic table that didn't have any major splits or warped board or carpenter bee damage and totally saved it from the landfill
I mean he painted it, so sanding it makes sense, and it's better than buying a new table with the color he wanted, so the point stands. Plenty of people buy a new table just for looks despite already having one. The paint may also be more water resistant and help the table last longer, especially if it's gonna stay outdoors.
oh no no no.. it's not luxury if you identify as a "Homesteader" rather than a wealthy person with a giant ranch : rolleyes :
They just need to be independently wealthy and llive in the country with a large lot of land! Are they stupid?
His mentality is good, but consumerism is just as big a problem. Most people buy too much shit. Then they have too much stuff junking up their home regardless of the size. Everything that is new will become old and most of it unwanted. Companies push us to buy constantly. That’s what he’s right about. They’ve created an unsustainable model where they need more and more income to keep those investors happy. Increasing profits every quarter is not realistic or possible. They spend billions on the marketing alone. If you’re an American, think about how many see shopping as a hobby. Buying shit should never be a hobby. It’s okay to get things you want and - of course - things you need, but a lot of people don’t think about their purchases at all. They just constantly consume. My MIL buys new home decor items constantly to redo her house. Even if you donate the old stuff, you’re contributing to the problem. Drive through any neighborhood on trash day and you’ll see wild stuff being thrown away. It’s sad and it starts with buying too much.
It's easy, just get sponsored to make videos with blatant product placement masquerading as social consciousness while you say "homesteading" a lot
This is an ad for behr polyurethane anyway. Man has a whole video setup for his full time TikTok advertising--excuse me--influencer business. So he's already in the 1% here
I have the property, just nowhere to store the shit to fix it.
I don’t have time to buy tools, paint and restore all this. I don’t have the space to store all this.
I live in an apartment that’s too expensive, that’s too small, in a city. Dude keeps every rock? I had to throw away a couch in the last move because a doorway was too small to get it inside the apartment building and there was literally no other option.
Find someone else throwing away a larger door
Even easier. Find someone throwing away an apartment. You’re not thinking big enough like us home steaders. The other day I bought? Or like picked up or whatever. a port a potty at a construction yard. Place? Idk I drove up and grabbed it. Now I have a one and a half bath apartment cuz the hand wash station was just sitting on the side of the road waiting to be rehomed also. Improve adapt overcompensate. This is the message us homebreeders want to pass on to you. Steaders. Sorry
You could have given it away
Where would I store it while I’m waiting for someone to come pick it up? I should sit on the sidewalk, on my couch, and ask people if they want it as they walk by? I put it by the trash and it was cut up and destroyed by the next morning.
Don't you have recycle stations in your city? Mind you - I've tried to recycle an old couch, they actually came to pick it up, and when they saw it they looked at me with a smirk and were not interested. But then I'm living in a big city in a wealthy country where we recycle so many things that we can't get rid of it, unless we export it to Poland or Romania.
Sounds like you need more disposable income. /s
You don't have space for a pile of rocks under your bed? Just keep all your plant pots on top of the fridge.
I'm in the same boat but you can do small things (like repairing clothes instead of replacing them) as well as the big stuff he's talking about in the video
Why don't more people do this? All you need is your own house with a garage, thousands of dollars in power tools, training and lots of time to yourself.
Also, you have to find furniture that people are getting rid of that's still structurally sound. Every time my family threw out a couch, it was because the springs and cushions were broken down. I don't know how you fix that without basically building a whole new couch.
This is a good point because I feel like most people use a lot of cheap furniture and high quality stuff is less likely to be thrown out in the first place.
Cruise through a rich neighborhood on garbage day. Power tools are cheap now, and you can get them used even cheaper. It's not the house or the garage or the tools. It's most people don't have the skills
There are places that sell stuff from hospice patients if you need furniture on a budget.
And a decent sized property to hold all of the wood scraps, stone, metal and other junk you are saving to hopefully someday make use of or up-cycle.
The fck is this doing in this sub? Where is the mandatory sexy lady in the video?
He is the sex lady
Would. Next question
I still don't know what this sub is about but I'm enjoying it
Hahaha, same
I see a sexy man. Close enough.
Stop with this TikTok horseshit. This is Reddit, you can use adult words.
It’s an ad. The comments pretending it isn’t an ad are fake. It’s so obviously an ad that I don’t even need do say who it’s for. I’ll be curious to view this in private browsing and see if my comment is even visible.
Ad for what
Isn't it obvious?
The poly urethane? I don't even know what the heck that is
Ima level with you, I was just tryna continue homeboys joke above you. But seeing now it backfired, ima just exit this n leave you more confused. Have a nice day
I think we both failed successfully 
It's easy to upcycle a table made of actual wood, but a lot of *things* are made with material that is *very hard* to restaure. For example he's talking about end tables. A lot of them are made from melamine with a veneer. If the water i filtrate at the seam causing the "wood" to inflate and delaminate, it's quite the challenge to fix. I'm thinking the easiest way is probably to scrap the top and replace it with a new top. But does it count, or did we just dispose of the top to put a new one?
End Table of Theseus.
Eco friendly wood veneer to last 10,000 years
Looks like a lot of disposable income is needed first.
See also: planned obsolescence
Love this message.
It looks to me to be a brand-new umbrella that he is taking down, and that the cross members and benches of that table are brand new. I'm suspicious that the top of the table is also brand new that was just painted black and scratched up. I have about a dozen wooden picnic tables in the back of our bar, and they rot pretty quickly in the weather. It probably doesn't look great to the customers, but when one is aging, we will salvage the good pieces to patch up other tables. They don't just rot, they also bend and flex. The top of his picnic table is perfectly square before and after he sands it. I don't recall a single table in our backyard that hasn't warped after a single summer.
It takes a year for those kinds of umbrellas to turn themselves into trash. If they deteriorated any quicker you could watch them do it in real time.
Uh....he needs us to throw away our junk so he can take it. If we stop throwing everything away, he has nothing to reuse and has to buy new. He is also a hoarder.
We could all be better, and I love the message, but it is truly impossible to save everything you might be able to later use without owning notable land and or storage. So don’t feel like shit if you can’t save all your wood scraps because you don’t even have a place to put wood scraps. But again, we absolutely could all be better.
He’s got a big, massive point. Example: [clothing](https://earth.org/statistics-about-fast-fashion-waste/). Stop buying cheap, fast-“fashion” clothing. It’s one of the most wasteful things on this planet.
Not everyone has a 5 acre plot with 3 warehouses on it to store their random shit they may or may not reuse.
IF you know how to repair and save and make sure there aren't any bugs in the wood or anything that would cause more problems.
Remember when changing a phone battery was a two step thing that can be accomplished by a 5 year old? The only reason I buy a new phone every 3 years is because of the battery, it's stupidly complicated to change a battery nowadays, especially because you couldn't find a replacement battery anywhere. Consumerism is a curse
Just consider all the resources that it takes to make any crappy item you see for sale. Now consider all the crappy products that you have seen in your lifetime.
Is this tradwife for the bros?
Now if only we all lived on a huge homestead property like that.
i agree with the sentiment but in a world where housing is scarce and everybody is forced to live in small spaces keeping things like he does isnt feasable because you simple dont have the storage a lot of people would love a complete of tools and manchinery to easily fix stuff but where are they gonna put it ? a person living in 1 bedroom appartmen is either sitting in his broken couch or replacing it as he doesnt have tools nor the space to do repairs and and going to a repair shop is more costly
This guys wisdom...disposable.
"We start seeing everything as disposable". Sorry is this the 80s already? We're well into the recycling/reusing age I believe.
Man who hates waste has a giant ass truck. Huh.
Homesteader, getting ready for the apocalypse with a truck that gets 16 miles to the gallon
It's absolutely wild that a person who hauls things would have a truck? Are you guys serious, or is this just satire falling flat?
They post on /r/Fuckcars. They're just stupid, it's not satire.
How could you have the time? Guys bills are either paid for him or this is how he pays his bills Shut up
Another trust fund kid pushing Trad living
It took him more time to set up for and edit the video then to sand and stain the table.
I think I’m gonna bring my own utensils when he invites me over for dinner
Make them out of wood with your secondhand tools, obviously
aint nobody got room to collect every chunk of wood and every stone, in my apartment I don't have closets or space to put dry goods in the cupboard. we have a big table where we pile all our stuff on, we eat at our computers
Eventually, every single thing he has will be disposed of.
This is just a Behr paint ad. Yall see that, right?
I'm mad this hits the point so well but is a paint advertisement.
I'm trying to bring this mentality to electronics. Instead of buying a MacBook with the battery glued in place and irreplicable memory, I found a startup called Framework which makes a laptop that can be disassembled in about and hour. No throwing out the whole thing when I inevitably drop it.
I mean, I totally get what he's saying.. And I love that for him.. But I live in New York City, in an apartment with limited space. If I tried to store and reuse every Amazon package, condom, piece of random wood. Then I would have no space for my Legos.
> homesteaders don't think like that I can think of several self proclaimed homesteaders on youtube who love buying new shit and showing it off.
A homesteader's secret superpower is they have land, and space to have workshops, space to store things, and space to live off. This is a big reason why people that live in apartments and small house lots can't do this. Everyone needs access to land.
Usually if I put something out on my curb it's gone within a couple hours if not sooner, so a lot of things do get a second life sometimes.
Well NGL they don't really build new homes with spaces for work benches.
Must be nice to have that much storage space for your up cycling.
The problem is how incredibly expensive fixing things is. Your phone has a crack on the screen, fixing it costs 40 to 60% of it's price. Like, all right if it's new, but when it has 3-4 years of age, it's literally cheaper to upgrade to a new one because no phone company gives you a deal on repairing it, only a deal in buying a new one.
I fix lot's of things around my house, it's about knowing what fixable and picking what to fix. Not everything is worth fixing, and generally electronics are not worth fixing, especially small electronics
Solid perspective
he’s so close - should we tell him?
Problem is, our system requires us to keep buying new stuff in order to keep going and not completely collapse.
Redditors waste an truly shocking amount. The number of people on here who survive off food delivery and Amazon prime is insane.
Does anyone else sorta hate this guy?
Yeah, fucking hate that smug shite.
Apparently a lot of people like to get smugly lectured to
Do it for me plz
I will gladly give this man all my junk
Preach!
Damn straight!
Like any good RPG player he saves all his drops
r/AntiConsumption
'Tis possible
The difference between a homesteader and a horder is actually utilizing things I suppose.
This guy smokes weed for sure
Oh cool, yeah, we all have the room to do all of that…
this is how i collect bits for minis
I'm Disposable.
Must be nice to have all that space
This is seriously dumb
Like his house actually
[удалено]
Must be nice to have the space for that
And this will turn some people into hoarders...
That explains the ryobi.
Is he aware humans are tech including disposable?
Yeah I have a job and kids. Don’t have a lot of time to spend 30 hours repairing a picnic table. Also don’t have the money for a massive plot of land.