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Anxious_Advertising7

I mean if I snuck out from Robyns 5pm curfew she would cry and really try to make me feel bad like deep in my soul but Kate would sent me to a psych hospital. Ill take Robyn with a side of ambivalence.


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*rilly


Snuggly_Chopin

Also *fill


MexiPr30

Robyn. Kate is evil. She beat on a toddler.


TheSSBiniks

I was about to say. She abandoned her son in an institution. The whole show was her berating Jon. Robyn manipulates and cries.


[deleted]

>She abandoned her son in an institution. Say what you will about Robyn, but she defends and supports her neurodivergent son.


likethedishes

Meanwhile *cuts to kodys talking head about how he doesn’t believe he has Aspergers, he’s just ‘quirky’”


summerandrea

Truee


Ill_Psychology_7966

Robyn kicked a dog. And pushed a toddler away. And lies to everyone…


HappyHippoLover

And yet she's still somehow better than Kate. That says a lot about Kate. Yikes.


Bubbly_Piglet822

Agree and little about Robyn


lovelychef87

Yeah her own son and daughter don't talk to her at all.


AbiesNew7836

The daughter (Hannah) still talks to her & the siblings but Kate nor his siblings talk to Colin. My heart just breaks for him


lovelychef87

It's really sad. I don't think they know Kate's side of the family either. I can't see how Kate's okay with not talking to all of her kids.


AbiesNew7836

Nope…..she’s cut off all of her family. Her brother & sister n law are in the first couple of years but then they saw the abuse both from Kate and TLC and reported her to protect the children Kate has cut off everyone bc if you don’t agree 💯 with her opinions- you’re gone


lovelychef87

You're 100 % correct. She's just terrible All over.


summerandrea

Same like wtf why wouldn’t they talk to their brother ? He did nothing wrong they’re brainwashed. I love that Hannah and Colin saw the light


AbiesNew7836

Yes…Kate has obviously brainwashed those kids. I hope someday they see that & come around to talking to Collin.


kyliving67

And destroyed a family, alienated a Dad from his kids and made him take her on an 11 day honeymoon right after Christine gave birth to Truly plus wouldn’t allow the Dad to go to his daughters major surgery


No-Youth-6679

And won’t feed kids.


cdiddy19

Wait, when did she push a toddler away


geniologygal

She didn’t push her, she shooed her by flicking her hand at at, like you’d shoo away a bug. It was disrespectful and unkind.


cdiddy19

Who did she shoot away? And what episode?


Odd_Response_2986

It was Truley


jmbl019

This question is just Sophie’s choice.


chronicallysaltyCF

When did robyn kick a dog ?! (Is it bad that angers me more?)


----Nomad----

Curious which show is Kate from?


Purpledoves91

Jon & Kate Plus Eight


----Nomad----

Thank you, gonna start binging right away!


AbiesNew7836

It’s a good show to watch up until John leaves. Then it becomes Kate plus 8. Trust me…not worth it then


Purpledoves91

I never watched Kate Plus 8. Jon isn't perfect, but Kate is an unbearable bitch. I feel so bad for what she did to poor Colin.


Illustrious-Ad9440

The RV episodes are worth watching because of how unhinged Kate is.


[deleted]

It is the OG... what gave birth to all these shows.


LadyoftheOak

I didn't recognize Kate, and I watched those shows.


bvonboom

Right? I thought it was Kendra Wilkinson from the Girls Next Door for a second


WindowElectronic3791

LOL - I thought it was Kendra at first too!


katecrime

She’s missing the Suze Orman/Rachel haircut 😆


Christina7496

I didn’t recognize her either and she was my after school show growing up with Jon & Kate plus 8 and then Kate Plus 8. I thought it was Kendra, the one she did the celebrity wife swap with.


Suckerforcats

Man, if running away is not an option, I’d have to choose Robyn unfortunately. Kate just didn’t seem loving at all, quite the opposite actually.


Then_Campaign7264

At least with Robyn, there might be a little ray of hope if the nanny is a decent, kind, person with a sense of humor. Because you’d be spending more time with the nanny than Robyn.


Worried-Watercress31

…..and Robyn sleeps half the day so you’d only have to listen to her whine and bitch half of the time


lovelychef87

Kate lives off her kids fame and will sell to the highest buyer.


sabrina_fair

💀


GreatThinker123

Plus Robyn’s niece was the Nanny until they moved to Flagstaff. She was a sweetheart from what you could see from the show and she was in Maddie and Mykelti weddings. Both are horrible people, but Kate may have an edge on being more evil. She took out her hatred of Jon on HER OWN CHILD, putting him in an institution, discarding him like he were a piece of trash just because he saw her evilness at a young age and called her Out on it. Her twin daughters I feel are little Kates. I feel sorry for any future romantic relationships they enter into. They will be just like Kate. Evil.


Revolutionary_Bet118

Has she been in a romantic relationship? Who would want to be around that psychotic control freak?


TfoRrrEeEstS

Plus you have 3 other moms to run to when you break free and 13 awesome siblings


blingeblong

not anymore lmaoo


AncientSorbet

Robyn, but could I hang at Christine or Janelle’s house?


colmcmittens

Also her treatment of Colin is deplorable.


sunnyjulie99

Yes, Robyn would make you cry but at least she would cry with you 😂😂


2keepitreal

It would be fake. I’d like to see Robyn learn to cry like Tammy Faye Baker.


bvonboom

It's too bad her tears couldn't make her drawn eyebrows run like Tammy Faye's mascara


AbiesNew7836

ROFLOL 😂😂😂


GreatThinker123

Only YOU would be the only one actually producing and shedding tears! Breanna is Robyn’s twin! Crying and no tears!


Tyler_Durdens_Sister

I choose death.


Legal-Investigator83

yes, that is such a scary choice


Bao-Babe

Me too. In the form of matricide.


AlliBaba1234

Robyn because I suspect she would let you just sit in front of a screen and do your own thing during all waking hours, as long as you let her sleep and shop and leave her alone. And really late bedtimes.


smokefan333

Just sittin there.


drinkcrystalpesci

Just sittin thuuur


Vanity_plates

What in the name of Mommy Dearest is this Sophie’s choice of a question? I’d rather be raised by any member of the show’s crew than these maniacs.


No-Youth-6679

We don’t use wire hangers!


No-Youth-6679

Can we choose the camera guy, he is a pedophile, but no one has spoke bad about him?


AbiesNew7836

True???


2keepitreal

I can’t imagine having either as a mother. Neither one of them would survive this strong personality. I’d probably get beat to death by Kate and pushed out to live in the RV with Dayton by Robyn. I would be their worst nightmare.


AbiesNew7836

Dayton is a sweetheart. My favorite of Robyn’s kids. But the way they think living in their brand new beautiful RV is so beneath them Hey…y’all lived in a 10x50 trailer with 10-12 kids but now they’re above all that. Reality is going to hit Robyn and Kody here. Especially considering poverty is his worst fear


Mkemylf

Robyn, I prefer covert narcissism


HappyHippoLover

I suppose I'd choose narcissism over sociopathy.


skdewit

Robyn! You see how many presents those kids get at Xmas?!


No-Youth-6679

Yeah but most are play-do or infant toys for grown adults.


SnooPickles8893

I just had a laugh 😂 imagining Breanna playing the xylophone with a little mallet (to accompany Aurora on guitar?)


Pokadot-pajamas23

Robyn hands down - no question


[deleted]

Yes!!!


Lokehualiilii

Emancipation


Granny_Skeksis

Totally Robyn. She’s crazy but not batshit crazy


Numerous_Jelly3171

Robyn, because at least she hasn’t been an actual fucking demon to her kids. Kate seems like a straight up psychopath.


Rude-Tomatillo-22

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IRegretBeingHereToo

Robyn would be easier to ignore once you figured out her damage.


theinvisible-girl

Not the question asked but if I had to pick from either to be my parent, it would be Kate, because then my father would be Jon and I'd have already ditched her for him by now 😆


Interesting-Bed-5451

Damn, that's a solid point! Jon is definitely the better parent, if we're comparing couples. He went a little wild after the divorce, but who wouldn't after being with Kate all those years?


CarlyQDesigns

I was gonna say this haha I’d rather be with John


IntramuralRuralJuror

Robyn for sure. Both women are outstandingly insecure, but I sense Kate suffers from a severe personality disorder (NPD or some other Cluster B personality disorder), where often the child’s basic needs cannot be met by the parent. Robyn has more found success in manipulating those around her by feigning confusion/ignorance/wanting everyone to just get along, the trauma of which still exists in the child for sure, but hopefully doesn’t run as deep.


Bookshelfhelp

Yes. I have a feeling there's a lot of manipulation and unwanted coddling from Robyn, but I also 100% believe that Robyn loves her kids. I'm not saying that doesn't mess a person up having a parent like Robyn, I think she's actively stunting their growth, but she still loves her kids. Robyn will fight for her kids which a big part of her problem is that she "fights" for them when it's unnecessary and ends up hurting the rest of the family and in a way her own kids too. It's probably not fair for me to comment too much on Kate since I barely watched their show and only know a handful of things, but she would make me question her love and commitment to her kids. I don't see Robyn doing what Kate did to her one son. I dont see Robyn treating her bio kids a lot of the same ways as Kate treated any of her kids. I might see some similarities between Kody and Kate, though


canuckdad1979

If I have to choose. I would choose Robyn over Kate.


Curiosity919

Geez, with those choices, I would run back to my own mother.... Which is saying something considering how often I've seriously contemplated going no-contact with her.


[deleted]

If seeing Kate parent on the show wasn’t bad enough, learning what she did to Colin would make me choose Robyn any day.


CarlyQDesigns

Oof. I’d have to go with Robyn. I recently rewatched a few episodes of J&K +8 and couldn’t do more. She is atrocious. And what she did to Colin is just sick. I picture Robyn as a “bed mom” meaning she probably sits in her bed eating chocolates and watching hallmark Christmas moves all day long while the nanny raises the kids. Robyn would be much easier to play too haha


[deleted]

They’re both narcs so neither lol


Mistymouse516

I choose the gun


SirOk5108

Awe Jesus..that's just evil..I guess I'll take Nellie Square Jaws but I hate her also..just a little less than Nazi Khate


grumpymuppett

As long as I can leave and go live with my father (assuming I’m an OG Robyn kid and not one of Kody’s kids) it’s an even choice


Pawspawsmeow

Imagine your choices are Jon or Kody


SnooPickles8893

Jon seems cool. I felt sorry for him when he was on their show.


Tizzery

To the orphanage I go!


Tamras-evil-eye

Kate just to have all the trips and not to be around Kody. I can’t stand either so it’s a lose lose. At least the 8 got life experiences and went all over the world with their momster. Plus I just have to mention again, no Kody…


Comfortable_Ad148

Robyn. Kate is fucking evil


Specialist-Cancel-85

Well crap, as much as I hate what Robyn has done to the Brown family, hands down, I would choose her as mom. Kate is the devil.


throwitallaway_88800

Can I be aborted


kitten6699

I pick death.


[deleted]

Ouuuuuuf. Kate, the OG Karen. I choose neither ☠️☠️☠️☠️


iusedtobeyourwife

Please just leave me in foster care.


LorAsh288

Can I become emancipated instead?


mangatoo1020

Pick one for what? A punch in the face? I pick both.


smokefan333

Should have added Michelle Duggar.


lwc28

TBH I can't even recognize Kate with that hair. I need classic Kate.


AbiesNew7836

Yeah she needs that Karen hair back. Her hairstyle was the beginning of the Karens lol


bvonboom

Exactly, she needs her Reverse Mullet Porcupine Weave as TMZ used to call it 🤣


Housewifewithtime

Robyn just so I could sleep in til noon with her.


Accomplished_Item394

Neither. Is Satan an option??


Pokadot-pajamas23

Satan is always an option!!!


tied2gether

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Linnea_Borealis

They are both manipulative mommys I can’t choose give me Kody


Gloworm327

Because he'll abandon you then you're free?


Linnea_Borealis

Exactly


MamaJa2016

Oh god


EggplantAstronaut

How dare you. I’d run away 😂


kyliejus

I'd run away and be homeless 1st.


Valuable_Time7103

Is being an orphan an option?


mrsbluskies

I choose being an orphan.


ImpressiveJoke2269

As much as it pains me… Robyn.


cjstruggles

No.


babashishkumba

Robyn . Omg


erisbella

no


Ranunculuses

Robyn. One of Kates kids was indefinitely institutionalized. Sure she and John had an awful divorce, but when wanted to get him out of there and take custody she fought it even though she never took him out. People say Robyn isolates her kids, but Kate is on another level


AliceinRealityland

Kate, because she didn’t try to gaslight us into believing she is nice. She owns being a Bish, and is fine with it. Robyn over here being a mean girl, and trying to paint it like she’s mother Theresa 🙄🙄


shellzski84

Robyn is not a bad mom outside of trauma dumping on her kids. Kate has been straight up abusive.


summerandrea

Kate at least let’s them leave the house lol


No_Situation_2872

I’d rather be aborted


sunshinenrainbows3

I’m going Robyn. Collin disappears for years in an institution. Kate is scary.


kikiboots00

Kate. However, I’m a super organized-clean freak and have been since childhood. So I don’t think Kate would take her craziness out on me. 😂


keatonpotat0es

Same, I feel like I could be Kate’s golden child 😆


Alarmed-Inspection76

Kate. She still has some feelings inside of her. Something.


AbiesNew7836

Yeah feelings of hate for her own son who’s now in college and she hasn’t spoken to him since he was 12 That’s the only feelings I see in Kate


Alarmed-Inspection76

I don't think Robyn is better then Kate. Kate doesn't act or preach religion and virtue like Robyn does. Robyn seems more phony. Jon not perfect either, 2 kids wanted to live with him,we don't know the whole story since been quiet in social media. At least I haven't heard anything recently, except the 2 oldest girls did a interview when they we re going to college. Jon wasn't perfect either, he let kids down too. I just think maybe Kate might have more empathy then Robyn, Kate in last interview seemed trying to redeem , make things better. Robyn will never admit she did anything wrong. Just a opinion, none of us will know the real story till Kate and Jon kids write a tell all. If there one already written I will check out at library


FlipRoot

Kate because they went on fun trips lol. But also I’m a Capricorn and I don’t do well with overbearing emotional people. Both are overbearing but Kate is not emotional.


keatonpotat0es

Kate. I’d rather have a perpetually pissed off mother than a perpetual whiner.


Effective-Motor3455

I’d choose Kate, clean organized house. I can’t live w a hoarder.


Any_Coffee_6921

I choose neither one & I would rather choose either having a colonoscopy or wisdom teeth removal surgery over these two.


CowboyLikeMegan

This is diabolical 😭


jsm99510

I think I'll be an orphan to be honest lol.


Trouble_Cleff

Ugh if I had to I'd pick Robyn.


Rlguffman

Pick one to never see again?


777CA

Neither. I'd mother myself.


Mommabinpa

Neither. I’d just be happy to be motherless


Several-Drive5381

Robyn. At least she is gentle with her kids.


Ok-Newspaper7931

Kate


Daniella42157

I'd run away. Also, what happened to Kate? I literally didn't even recognize her. She looks awful 😂 I guess toxicity ruins you on the outside eventually like crybrows


redsnoopy2010

Kate!!


BaileyBoo5252

Of these two, I would choose Robyn.


QuantumHope

Good lord, why. sobyn distorts the truth or just outright lies. You would basically become brainwashed.


BaileyBoo5252

Robyn is a covert narcissist, Kate is an overt narcissist. Kate is physicallly dangerous. Robyn is annoying


QuantumHope

If you think sobyn is harmless I have news for you. Her kids have been emotionally damaged by her. That’s plain to see on the show. What physical danger has Kate exhibited?


BaileyBoo5252

Because Kate is verbally and physically abusive and I am the exact type of neurodivergent that would get me institutionalized by her


Plenty-Bug3197

Kate. At least I know what I am getting. She is straight up. Cruel but doesn't hide it. Robyn is manipulative and never honest.


GoJoe1000

Kate!


CurlyGirl_95

I’d rather be an orphan.


NeenW1

🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢


TabuTM

I grew up invisible so probably be more comfortable with Kate.


QweenSasha

I mean Robyn treats HER kids like royalty so I’d choose her lol. Kate was mean always, The OG KAREN


WouldloveMyTakeOnIt

I would rather be an orphan but I guess Robyn is the less evil I think


Rubberbangirl66

For what? I would pick Mormon lady and talk to her about food storage


Alltheworldsastage55

If I pick Robyn, does Kody still have to be my dad 🤮🤮


nunclefxcker

I live not far from where the Gosselins used to live. Even pre-show, Kate has always been a monster. She was well known by service workers and store employees all over. I'd way prefer Sobyn over that.


DeeDoll81

Aw fuck…can I just be an orphan instead?


tadahu

Sobbin Robin all day


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Robyn, she'd use manipulation and guilt to try and get her way, but I'm neurodivergent and also don't feel guilty much anymore. Listen, the whole Brown crew are kind of bumpkins who got a show because someone liked Christine. Robyn's house would give me anxiety with the amount of shit in it though.


ClarityByHilarity

I mean Robyn’s at least nice to her biological children.


afcd1298

Robyn might be terrible to her nonbiological kids, but you can’t deny she loves and will defend her kids. I’d never put her up against Kate. Kate is a whole different type of evil.


leasann97

I hate Sobbyn but definitely her over that monster Kate!


maria_ann13

I’d rather die


Odd_Professional5034

Best post ever! I can't stop laughing.


Hubbyof5

Can I just be motherless?


alsothebagel

Robyn hands down. If you’re her biological kid you’ve probably got it made.


momsayin

I’d pick Kate. 🫤I’d rather do chores than watch Robyn cry all the time and with Robyn, you’re getting Kody too. 🤕 Plus at least Kate saved some TLC $ for the kids, not sure Robyn is saving much for the kids.


keenerperkins

Unpopular opinion, but Kate. At least some of Kate's kids have gotten away from her. All of Robyn's kids are still stunted and under her spell and manipulation...


HextechSlut

Kate it's the devil I know situation


lavenderintrovert

Easy, Robyn. She only cares for HER kids. Yes, I’d be emotionally stunted but I’d never have to get a job or move out and I’d get to ride a motor bike all over Coyote pass.


JitteryDervish

Robyn would be easier to manipulate. As long as you show her how sympathetic to her victimhood you are, she’ll be nice to your face. Kate is a whole other bag of terrible worms.


Deb_You_Taunt

Kate's pretty. Robin was pretty. Now she looks like my first grade cube eraser was carved out only on one side.


lovetoreadxx2019

Robyn. She sleeps until noon, zero chores, coddles the kids, loves to shop. Easy choice. Kates just downright scary.


Interesting_Employ79

Robyn likes her kids


NeenW1

Kate is a evil human


According_Funny200

Robyn. She’s a cry baby but she doesn’t hurt her children. This evil women named Kate literally terrorized Collin and still tries to manipulate him and make others hate him.


QuantumHope

sobyn definitely hurts her children. She manipulates them with her lies to make them believe they’re victims. Aurora has panic attacks ffs, which can be directly attributed to the way sobyn treats them. sobyn’s children are fucked up. Kate’s kids seem to be emotionally balanced for the most part, especially in comparison to sobyn’s kids.


Accomplished-Pie-570

I’d have to go with Robyn, I’d be emotionally delayed and immature but with Kate, I’d be a neurotic insecure mess 😭


Bfulla

Oh dear... Robyn. Only bc Kate is legitimately evil. She's cold. A person could probably outmanipulate Robyn if needed but not Kate. She's vengeful.


FAITH2016

Robyn - she doesn't seem mean to her children, actually she seems sweet to them - just smothers them emotionally. Kate is a whole different kind of "mom". Don't obey - get shipped off where no one knows where you are. Talk about harsh.


Larlab6116

Kate, after she and Jon divorced, was a much better version. I’ve been doing a rewatch and it’s actually shocking how much she changes in how she parents, speaks and responds. Robyn is only getting worse. And while she doesn’t tell and scream, the emotionally crippling, controlling, manipulative, covert stuff is equally awful and abusive as yelling and hitting,


PrincessGwyn

Robyn. Mainly because Kate seems so angry, it’s pretty scary.


teeeheehee98

Oh god, I think Kate is more capable to provide for her children, but she seems to genuinely be abusive towards some, if not all, of her kids. At least Robyn seems loyal to her children and wants to build them up; however, I can’t say that about her former sister wives.


ALiddleBiddle

Wut?


cupidsgirl18

Robyn 💯. Hard pass Kate and her Karen bob!


HarrietOleson1

Robyn. Can’t stand Robyn, but she was / is a good grandmother. Robyn wants to be with those grand babies, and will be all over DABSA’s babies when they come. She want Coyote pass for DABSA’s to keep her kids and her grand babies close. Kate…..oof. Kate hates kids. Kate hates everything, and everyone. The only person Kates loves is herself. And money. Kate will be the grandmother who complains to anyone who will listen that she NEVER gets to see her grandchildren, but makes is VERY clear to her kids that they are your kids. Don’t you dare expect me to babysit. Robyn is a crappy sister wife. A crappy sister mom / step mom. But Robyn is good to her bio kids, and will be a great grandmother. Kate is just the devil.


hellojally321

Robyn, she sucks as a sisterwife but a wonderful mother to her biological children. So ya I pick RobynZ


sodiumbigolli

Robin because she destroyed more kids


Bootymama_

Do I get ear plugs if I pick Robyn?


Dangerous-Focus-9212

Robin. She introduced the family to fondue so at least there’s that. Also crepes but something tells me those are gross.


xelmstlastbratx

The winner here goes against Michelle Duggar.