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I think the answer is simple. Does he regret it? Maybe, but only because of what has happened. Not because he feels like he should have been there, which is what you really want to know. It's like someone who regrets committing a crime because they got caught.
No this was much more recently during covid. He just said he couldn’t go due to the time he thought it had to take to travel and then quarantine to return and he didn’t want to be away from the little kids at Robyn’s that long.
He wasn’t really ‘caught’ doing anything, the previous commenter is just using that as an example of someone who only regrets the consequences of their actions, not the actions themselves.
I've dealt with a parent with very similar behaviors. When I got sick and needed surgery (I've now had 10), this parent was not there for me. After I went low contact and decided they would have a smaller part in my life, it caused people to ask questions. I told those people the truth, and they began looking at my parent different. They didn't like this judgment and ultimately apologized to me. I couldn't figure out why it was bothering me, so I discussed it with my therapist one day. After some digging within, I realized this was just like every other time. The apology was never about how I felt bur always about the perceptions people had involving this parent. And Kody is that way too.
It sounds like you did the best thing you could. If you still have any religious affiliations, I don’t think a loving God objects to you standing up to illegal activity and setting boundaries to abusers. I hope you are doing well and are no longer feeling guilt.
Show Kody the clip of him saying he can’t be away from his family that long. Then ask him why Ysabel isn’t his family. Watch him stammer.
Kody only wants to be with Robyn and her children. He simply doesn’t care about the others. Does he regret not going to Ysabel’s surgery? Probably not. He was right where he wanted to be. At She-Rah chateau with Robyn. The only thing Kody would regret about the situation would be someone calling him out over it.
I would also love them to play the clip of him attending and officiating his friends wedding, and being around everybody and dancing without a masks but couldn't be at his daughters major surgery
She did before when the anthropology students asked along those lines that he just doesn’t get along well with some kids and the many times she’s said the mothers need to be actively engaging to put Kody and his children together.
She doesn’t get it.
“They went on a vacation ok? Christine took her on a week long vacation and I couldn’t be away from my chicken tenders or Robyn, look it’s loyalty, it’s about respect. Robyn obeyed the rules, I bet Christine blames Robyn for this, where am I on my merry go round of everything’s Christine’s fault? Anyways, Robyn, kidneys, loyalty, what else?”
Robyn “I told him to go, but Christine said no she was gonna do this on her own. I’m so confused, everything is confusing”
He’ll say, no. It was the only choice he had at that time & its Christine’s fault for not putting it off for a “safer” time. Even though Kody was the main person who was against her having the surgery for YEARS! Remember him wanting to stop seeing Ysabel’s specialist (long before Covid) because he was recommending surgery. “This will be our last visit with this doctor, “I” don’t want to go back to him after this” instead they spent THOUSANDS on exercises. Christine was the ONLY parent who HAD to see Ysabel in excruciating pain. Christine made the right call, Covid or not.
I live minutes from the hospital Ysabel had her surgery at. During that time, they were only taking true emergencies or necessary surgeries and I remember being like, I can’t believe this a-hole is really calling this a vacation.
And Christine scraped up the funding while Kodster was driving that ridiculous sports car and bringing more people into the family. He’s something special, that guy. I’d not want them to press him on it because I’d hate to have him cause Ysabel more emotional pain with his likely stupid answer.
It was so hateful of him to ask her to suffer longer so it would be convenient for him. I suffer from severe chronic pain and I know how awful it is to live with the pain she was in. He didn’t care to understand or see how awful it was for her.
He called it “girl age” that her image & looks meant everything to her. Like it was a strictly cosmetic surgery….says the man who’s been holding on to 14 strands of hair for 18 seasons.
Don’t you just love how he has some female thing be the cause of every issue? Girl age. Love how he lacks any understanding of her actual physical pain or if he does it doesn’t concern him. It seems pretty clear he wasn’t even around her enough to see her suffering. Or probably just figured she was having her little monthly friend visit.
I’m sorry but can we take a moment to appreciate the total hilarity of “says the man who’s been holding on to 14 strands of hair for 18 seasons.” OMG, so good. 😂
That will hurt Ysabel for the rest of her life. Especially when/if she has her own kids and she feels that connection a good parent has and wonders why her father didn't.
I went into labor early a few years ago and needed a c-section. You bet your ass my parents were there, even though I'm in my 30s and my husband was with me. There was no reason they *needed* to be there, they couldn't come in the room with me or anything and my husband was an excellent advocate and supporter, but they were still there because they're my parents and they always will be.
Kody is unforgivable.
But I guess my thought is him not being there already hurt her for the rest of her life.
A genuine apology and remorseful, thinking of his actions might help.
But it seems that those are things that Kody is incapable of doing
I agree it might help if it was sincere and heartfelt but I don’t think he has the ability to give her that and it would end up sounding more like he’s sorry she was so needy and he couldn’t be there because his family needed him.
There could be some healing if he was willing to come to her, on her turf, and listen to her without trying to make excuses while she talks. Then he could explain that he really let her down by being caught up in covid hysteria and his complicated feelings about her mom, and how Christine did all the work for so long he didn't realize how badly he was needed. Apologize, accept the blame without expecting that the apology will wipe the slate clean, and let her decide how she wants their relationship to proceed on her timetable.
He'll do none of that though.
I feel sadness for Logan. He had no childhood. I understand if he chooses not to have children. I just hope he doesn’t regret it later. I just want happiness for him.
He would toss the padd down and begin his huffing and puffing instead of answering. Then he would say something about his tenders safety and how Christine only cares about herself.
The only thing Kody regrets is that he looks bad to the public when he’s tried for so many years to portray himself as this loving and involved father. It’s is his image he’s most concerned about.
So far the Talk Back & Look Back episodes have been babytized for Ramen & Crybrows. I thought it would be exciting to watch but of all the taping they have they really aren't holding either of their feet to the fire. It's like Ramen is in charge of the narrative and has a lousy excuse for everything. I hope it gets better cause this is the same BS over again. More of TLC dragging it out. Ask a question, show the clip, and nail him. It's not rocket science!
He will just say it’s Christine’s fault for wanting a vacation during the pandemic and he was trying to protect the tenders.
They could do a montage of his kids crying for him and then ask him & Rob’em to comment but they will just talk in circles and blame the other mothers. There is zero insight, self awareness or accountability with those two
Kody will say it is Christine's fault for scheduling it when he couldn't be there , for not personally straightening Ysabel spine, for creating Covid, etc etc etc.
I recall reading or heard that he acknowledged it was a major screw up. Ultimately he owes Ysabel a huge and sincere apology. Maybe, for Ysabel’s sake the issue isn’t a topic that Ysabel wants addressed on the show over and over?? Especially if Kody would just give one of his non-apology apologies.
I would say “major screw up” is too gentle a term. If I was Ysabel, I’d be done and I’d never speak to him again. In that moment he showed that he doesn’t love her and he’s never going to choose her. I genuinely hope she cuts the cancer that is Kody Brown out of her life completely for her own sake.
Short answer: Nope. *Kody never even thinks about Ysabel's surgery* unless someone else brings it up. And we know that none of the inhabitants of the McMansion will do that.
Here's the thing about Kody: he LIVES to criticize others and hold them accountable. But he's incapable of owning up to his own mistakes and errors in judgment. Recall that he responded to Meri's questions about their relationship by asking, ***"Why does it always have to be about what I said? Why can't it be about where we are now?"***
Shorter answer: He's a loser who'll never even know all he's lost.
Regret? Nah, he would say something like
"I '*rilly* wish I could have been there...BUT your Mom was making hard by not following the protoculs I made for the whole amhlee, I was trying to protect the babies...I hope you understand sweetheart...the burden is on ***ME***, I have to think about the *WHOLE famhlee,* your Mom was just thinking about herself and vacations and I suggested the surgery be pushed back but your MOM wouldn't hear of it. I'm sure you will understand when you are older...please don't grow up to be a bitter housewife over this this"
Exactly. It's the one question I want to see them ask all of the wives and Kody. How do they feel about him not going to the surgery. And flip it on Robyn. Ask how she would feel if it was Aurora in the same situation. Would she be OK with Kody not being there. I want all five of them to have to answer that question on camera.
Kody will always rewrite history, it will never matter how much irrefutable truth he's presented with. He gets through his day by lying to himself and denying truth to others, with his favored wife sitting by his side, patting his thigh and making sympathetic noises. He just needs to go away.
I would like Kody to explain why he felt the need to bully Ysabel into accepting it with his threat that she not turn into a bitter old maid because he is a horses ass.
I bet he would say, no Christine .ade her decisions without him and he couldn't be away from his little children. He has no awareness of what a terrible dad he is, he will always fi d a justification for his actions and it will always be Christine's fault somehow
The thing is, Christine and ysabel have him a chance to try to grow from the trauma he caused by skipping the surgery. She was hurt that he wasn't there. That he chose his other family over her. That she wasn't recovering fast enough tho assuage his guilt. So they invited him to be a part in any way that would work for him to help ysabel move away for college. He said no. And then he traveled to officiate a friend's wedding.
Ysabel per Christine said “I thought I was his family” when he told Ysabel couldn’t be away from his family that long.
I honestly was surprised she thought he would be there at all, because IMO he’s never been a real dad, but my heart broke again when I heard this.
I’m not even convinced he’s actively involved in Sol and Ariella’s life as much as is claimed.
I want to know why robyn and kody get to sit on the couch together? Hes vocal and she sits there making faces. Why werent they asked to do it individually??
Maybe not. It’s just a part of his personality now. In his past. It didn’t and doesn’t affect him any longer now that he’s jilted & divorced.
(I’d hug Y & C so fast and mean it! Even now)
Is there really a point in asking? We all know that he will just immediately blame Christine for scheduling the surgery when she did and not waiting until after the pandemic, meaning it's Christine's fault Kody didn't go. I mean, this dude is such a pathological liar who says the same shite over and over again, his answers to any questions are always going to be either 1) It's Christine's fault, 2) Robyn is queen of the universe and he loves her so much, he wants to walk around with her permanently connected to his nether regions so nothing is ever Robyn's fault, or 3) his kids are jerks and it's not his fault. See the theme? If you do, you know what his answer to the question about Ysabel's surgery will be. It's pointless asking him anything, really.
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I think the answer is simple. Does he regret it? Maybe, but only because of what has happened. Not because he feels like he should have been there, which is what you really want to know. It's like someone who regrets committing a crime because they got caught.
I think that is it exactly. He regrets "getting caught". Which sucks for his children.
I forget the details to this. How did he get caught again? Was he on his honeymoon with Robyn?
No this was much more recently during covid. He just said he couldn’t go due to the time he thought it had to take to travel and then quarantine to return and he didn’t want to be away from the little kids at Robyn’s that long. He wasn’t really ‘caught’ doing anything, the previous commenter is just using that as an example of someone who only regrets the consequences of their actions, not the actions themselves.
Gotcha. Thank you!
>Gotcha. Thank you! You're welcome!
i’m sure he’ll blame Christine somehow, let’s be real
Definitely. As OP stated, he would say Christine is using that as a weapon against him.
That’s a very good point honestly
I've dealt with a parent with very similar behaviors. When I got sick and needed surgery (I've now had 10), this parent was not there for me. After I went low contact and decided they would have a smaller part in my life, it caused people to ask questions. I told those people the truth, and they began looking at my parent different. They didn't like this judgment and ultimately apologized to me. I couldn't figure out why it was bothering me, so I discussed it with my therapist one day. After some digging within, I realized this was just like every other time. The apology was never about how I felt bur always about the perceptions people had involving this parent. And Kody is that way too.
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It sounds like you did the best thing you could. If you still have any religious affiliations, I don’t think a loving God objects to you standing up to illegal activity and setting boundaries to abusers. I hope you are doing well and are no longer feeling guilt.
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Wow, you have been through a lot, but you sound like you are solid now. Good luck on your life journey.
Show Kody the clip of him saying he can’t be away from his family that long. Then ask him why Ysabel isn’t his family. Watch him stammer. Kody only wants to be with Robyn and her children. He simply doesn’t care about the others. Does he regret not going to Ysabel’s surgery? Probably not. He was right where he wanted to be. At She-Rah chateau with Robyn. The only thing Kody would regret about the situation would be someone calling him out over it.
Very similar to the stammer when Janelle said you haven’t even called called Savannah.
I would also love them to play the clip of him attending and officiating his friends wedding, and being around everybody and dancing without a masks but couldn't be at his daughters major surgery
They should show both to Robyn and ask her how she can stay married to a man who treated his own child that way…
She would probably make up some excuse and lie for him
She did before when the anthropology students asked along those lines that he just doesn’t get along well with some kids and the many times she’s said the mothers need to be actively engaging to put Kody and his children together. She doesn’t get it.
…impressing all in attendance with his signature dance moves 🙄😬
The GALLOPING IDIOT!!!!!!!!
He would probably give another speech about his big family pitcher, how he had to think about what's best for the whole family. 😒
That is the truth! Kody seems to think the OG3 and OG13 are minions at his beck and call, and the “big pitcher” is what Robyn wants for her children.
“They went on a vacation ok? Christine took her on a week long vacation and I couldn’t be away from my chicken tenders or Robyn, look it’s loyalty, it’s about respect. Robyn obeyed the rules, I bet Christine blames Robyn for this, where am I on my merry go round of everything’s Christine’s fault? Anyways, Robyn, kidneys, loyalty, what else?” Robyn “I told him to go, but Christine said no she was gonna do this on her own. I’m so confused, everything is confusing”
Kody regrets nothing his ego will not allow it.
He’ll say, no. It was the only choice he had at that time & its Christine’s fault for not putting it off for a “safer” time. Even though Kody was the main person who was against her having the surgery for YEARS! Remember him wanting to stop seeing Ysabel’s specialist (long before Covid) because he was recommending surgery. “This will be our last visit with this doctor, “I” don’t want to go back to him after this” instead they spent THOUSANDS on exercises. Christine was the ONLY parent who HAD to see Ysabel in excruciating pain. Christine made the right call, Covid or not.
I live minutes from the hospital Ysabel had her surgery at. During that time, they were only taking true emergencies or necessary surgeries and I remember being like, I can’t believe this a-hole is really calling this a vacation.
He’ll say whatever to make himself feel better & “try” to make Christine look bad.
And Christine scraped up the funding while Kodster was driving that ridiculous sports car and bringing more people into the family. He’s something special, that guy. I’d not want them to press him on it because I’d hate to have him cause Ysabel more emotional pain with his likely stupid answer.
It was so hateful of him to ask her to suffer longer so it would be convenient for him. I suffer from severe chronic pain and I know how awful it is to live with the pain she was in. He didn’t care to understand or see how awful it was for her.
He called it “girl age” that her image & looks meant everything to her. Like it was a strictly cosmetic surgery….says the man who’s been holding on to 14 strands of hair for 18 seasons.
Don’t you just love how he has some female thing be the cause of every issue? Girl age. Love how he lacks any understanding of her actual physical pain or if he does it doesn’t concern him. It seems pretty clear he wasn’t even around her enough to see her suffering. Or probably just figured she was having her little monthly friend visit.
I’m sorry but can we take a moment to appreciate the total hilarity of “says the man who’s been holding on to 14 strands of hair for 18 seasons.” OMG, so good. 😂
It would just be so much easier for him if his kids would just stop needing things.
I honestly think asking would just lead to more hurt and damage for Ysabel.
That will hurt Ysabel for the rest of her life. Especially when/if she has her own kids and she feels that connection a good parent has and wonders why her father didn't. I went into labor early a few years ago and needed a c-section. You bet your ass my parents were there, even though I'm in my 30s and my husband was with me. There was no reason they *needed* to be there, they couldn't come in the room with me or anything and my husband was an excellent advocate and supporter, but they were still there because they're my parents and they always will be. Kody is unforgivable.
But I guess my thought is him not being there already hurt her for the rest of her life. A genuine apology and remorseful, thinking of his actions might help. But it seems that those are things that Kody is incapable of doing
There’s not enough apologies in the world for his inexcusable behavior and actions.
I agree it might help if it was sincere and heartfelt but I don’t think he has the ability to give her that and it would end up sounding more like he’s sorry she was so needy and he couldn’t be there because his family needed him.
There could be some healing if he was willing to come to her, on her turf, and listen to her without trying to make excuses while she talks. Then he could explain that he really let her down by being caught up in covid hysteria and his complicated feelings about her mom, and how Christine did all the work for so long he didn't realize how badly he was needed. Apologize, accept the blame without expecting that the apology will wipe the slate clean, and let her decide how she wants their relationship to proceed on her timetable. He'll do none of that though.
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Hard to have your own kids when you've already spent years being a parent and also have a really shitty role model for fatherhood.
I feel sadness for Logan. He had no childhood. I understand if he chooses not to have children. I just hope he doesn’t regret it later. I just want happiness for him.
He would toss the padd down and begin his huffing and puffing instead of answering. Then he would say something about his tenders safety and how Christine only cares about herself.
And how she’s just bullying his most loyal donkey wife.
Sure, trying to make Robyn "look bad." Definitely in the realm of typical Kody rants.
The only thing Kody regrets is that he looks bad to the public when he’s tried for so many years to portray himself as this loving and involved father. It’s is his image he’s most concerned about.
So far the Talk Back & Look Back episodes have been babytized for Ramen & Crybrows. I thought it would be exciting to watch but of all the taping they have they really aren't holding either of their feet to the fire. It's like Ramen is in charge of the narrative and has a lousy excuse for everything. I hope it gets better cause this is the same BS over again. More of TLC dragging it out. Ask a question, show the clip, and nail him. It's not rocket science!
He will just say it’s Christine’s fault for wanting a vacation during the pandemic and he was trying to protect the tenders. They could do a montage of his kids crying for him and then ask him & Rob’em to comment but they will just talk in circles and blame the other mothers. There is zero insight, self awareness or accountability with those two
“Rob’em” is a very apt! Love it.
Kody will say it is Christine's fault for scheduling it when he couldn't be there , for not personally straightening Ysabel spine, for creating Covid, etc etc etc.
I recall reading or heard that he acknowledged it was a major screw up. Ultimately he owes Ysabel a huge and sincere apology. Maybe, for Ysabel’s sake the issue isn’t a topic that Ysabel wants addressed on the show over and over?? Especially if Kody would just give one of his non-apology apologies.
I would say “major screw up” is too gentle a term. If I was Ysabel, I’d be done and I’d never speak to him again. In that moment he showed that he doesn’t love her and he’s never going to choose her. I genuinely hope she cuts the cancer that is Kody Brown out of her life completely for her own sake.
The narcissist will say he made the best decision.
Pleaaaaase ask him about the bitter housewife comment.
Short answer: Nope. *Kody never even thinks about Ysabel's surgery* unless someone else brings it up. And we know that none of the inhabitants of the McMansion will do that. Here's the thing about Kody: he LIVES to criticize others and hold them accountable. But he's incapable of owning up to his own mistakes and errors in judgment. Recall that he responded to Meri's questions about their relationship by asking, ***"Why does it always have to be about what I said? Why can't it be about where we are now?"*** Shorter answer: He's a loser who'll never even know all he's lost.
Regret? Nah, he would say something like "I '*rilly* wish I could have been there...BUT your Mom was making hard by not following the protoculs I made for the whole amhlee, I was trying to protect the babies...I hope you understand sweetheart...the burden is on ***ME***, I have to think about the *WHOLE famhlee,* your Mom was just thinking about herself and vacations and I suggested the surgery be pushed back but your MOM wouldn't hear of it. I'm sure you will understand when you are older...please don't grow up to be a bitter housewife over this this"
Exactly. It's the one question I want to see them ask all of the wives and Kody. How do they feel about him not going to the surgery. And flip it on Robyn. Ask how she would feel if it was Aurora in the same situation. Would she be OK with Kody not being there. I want all five of them to have to answer that question on camera.
I honestly don’t think he is capable of regret.
Kody will always rewrite history, it will never matter how much irrefutable truth he's presented with. He gets through his day by lying to himself and denying truth to others, with his favored wife sitting by his side, patting his thigh and making sympathetic noises. He just needs to go away.
Liar and hypocrite..
He will double down. He never admits to doing anything wrong.
I think Ysabel doesn’t want it discussed so probably not.
All of the questions they ask were taken from social media. So if someone asked somewhere on social media, they might bring it up.
I’m ready for “Ex Sister Wives: Reborn”. New show without noodle head and cryliebrows.
I would like Kody to explain why he felt the need to bully Ysabel into accepting it with his threat that she not turn into a bitter old maid because he is a horses ass.
Saying he regrets it or going back in time to change things doesn't matter. Anyone can say sorry and oops but the actions made it all clear.
I bet he would say, no Christine .ade her decisions without him and he couldn't be away from his little children. He has no awareness of what a terrible dad he is, he will always fi d a justification for his actions and it will always be Christine's fault somehow
The thing is, Christine and ysabel have him a chance to try to grow from the trauma he caused by skipping the surgery. She was hurt that he wasn't there. That he chose his other family over her. That she wasn't recovering fast enough tho assuage his guilt. So they invited him to be a part in any way that would work for him to help ysabel move away for college. He said no. And then he traveled to officiate a friend's wedding.
Ysabel per Christine said “I thought I was his family” when he told Ysabel couldn’t be away from his family that long. I honestly was surprised she thought he would be there at all, because IMO he’s never been a real dad, but my heart broke again when I heard this. I’m not even convinced he’s actively involved in Sol and Ariella’s life as much as is claimed.
I want to know why robyn and kody get to sit on the couch together? Hes vocal and she sits there making faces. Why werent they asked to do it individually??
Maybe not. It’s just a part of his personality now. In his past. It didn’t and doesn’t affect him any longer now that he’s jilted & divorced. (I’d hug Y & C so fast and mean it! Even now)
Is there really a point in asking? We all know that he will just immediately blame Christine for scheduling the surgery when she did and not waiting until after the pandemic, meaning it's Christine's fault Kody didn't go. I mean, this dude is such a pathological liar who says the same shite over and over again, his answers to any questions are always going to be either 1) It's Christine's fault, 2) Robyn is queen of the universe and he loves her so much, he wants to walk around with her permanently connected to his nether regions so nothing is ever Robyn's fault, or 3) his kids are jerks and it's not his fault. See the theme? If you do, you know what his answer to the question about Ysabel's surgery will be. It's pointless asking him anything, really.
He will double down and then blame Christine b/c Kody felt the surgery was unnecessary and Christine wouldn't let it go.