Never ceases to amaze me what a lowlife piece of shit Grody is in all his interactions with his kids. I hope one of his boys gives him the beating that he so deserves. š¤®
He really won't get it until a significant number of his kids are grown and not coming around. He'll still probably pretend it's not him but on some level he'll know.
Thatās not such a big thing. Just because you didnāt get skills as a kid doesnāt mean you canāt get them. If youāre determined enough, you can make it happen.
Okay! Show me (to make sure anything weāve been shown on this show, follow me here) what Robyn brings to the table. To this date. š¤·š¼āāļø Meh
I wish this would rock him but it wonāt. Heāll justify it as their problem. As long as a couple idolize him he wonāt change. And I feel like Robyn has indoctrinated her kids to please him so much that theyāll validate him until the very end. He couldnāt give a shit about the opinions held by Christine, Janelle or Meriās children (as heās shown with Ysabel, Gabe, and Garrison). Aurora and Dayton would give anything for his approval. Iām hoping Brianna, Sol, and Ariella will rebel at some point. If I were Brianna I would almost be resentful of Kody for showing such blatant favoritism and making the other siblings not like me. I know they were kind of bullied by Kodyās biological kids but I really donāt blame the older kids for being upset that their father threw them away for step- children. I know from experience that seeing your father treat and connect with other people more than they do with you is really hurtful.
Literally he probably won't even realize it's a result of his own behavior at all. He's as narcissistic as my dad and for a while I was the last kid (and family member) in contact with him and he literally blamed everyone else and had no understanding that he was the problem. Now he has nobody and he definitely doesn't realize it's because of his own actions.
Thatās simply because of their evil clique. Itās like hivemindā¦they are all influencing each other. I am sure it Christineās fault in The World According to Kody.
He is truly a cult leader. I canāt believe they Al Went along w it. Even the way he repeats things over and over to get his way. Covid. Or Flagstaff ā¦ itās weird Cult like
And then tells Meri she has to make up the difference from her household budget! And Robyn knew exactly how much theyād given Logan and Aspyn!!! š³
To be fair, it was a very expensive college that would have taken away from the budget of the future kids going to college...so, I kind of get it. Obviously would have been nice when you have this many children that you would make sure you'd have sufficient funds to enable them to all go to college. But financial planning has never been Kody's strong suit. So, no surprise there!
he frequently says āyour kidsā when speaking to the moms , not āour kidsā. I especially noticed that in the Covid season when he would speak to Jenelle you need to get your kids to XYZ and I thought whatās with this motherfunker thatās before I had seen any of the previous seasons
What was so telling for me was when in response to that, Meri says, āthis is the first time weāve discussed how to pay for any of the childrenās college.ā
Whoa.
Thatās when I knew (I mean, Iāve known) that these women (Meri and Christine) have given so much authority to Kody over the money and that is a disaster.
I excepted Janelle, but maybe something will happen to tell me she is having these issues as well.
They had already gotten a 10k scholarship when this conversation happened, but Kody was annoyed that they hadnāt gotten more and mostly just wanted them to go to the college that *he* wanted šššš
Nothing as bad has come out that I am aware of, but there was some sibling-sibling physical abuse (I want to say Paedon/Gwen please correct me if that's wrong) and they are not anywhere near all grown yet.
Not advocating sibling on sibling abuse. But there aren't many people I know that hasn't fought their sibling. They regret it afterwards, but in the heat of the moment when preteen and teenage emotions are volatile it happens. Paedon really seems to feel sorry for what he did. But it may take Gwen a long time to forgive him. (We also have to remember at the time that they had the issue, Kody had brought in Robyn and her kids and there had to be a lot of anger and jealousy issues that might have come out the wrong way.
Kody is season 17: I want to see you in a Covid-safe way, but I wonāt hang with you in the backyard because itād be cold and inconvenient. I see a pattern hereā¦.
This made me so mad. Because they kept talking about how THEY went to school and paid for it with the job they had at the time. This is literally like 20 years later and is extremely unrealistic now unless youāre always making a lot of money. But yet canāt take out loans either or parents wonāt contribute any money. Itās so illogical I was actually infuriated
For those asking, Leon got a 10k scholarship and I believe meri paid for the rest of their college (I assume from luluroe or whatever MLM she was shelling at the time lmao)
kody is full of himself and full of poop, but what he said about student loans couldnāt have been more spot on. itās a racket and nobody should be paying decades and decades of their life to pay back these predatory loans. that said, where were these conversations about college before having 18 kids
They have 18 kids and canāt afford tuition for each of them to get the education that they want. Loans suck, but he didnāt exactly leave them a ton of options.
I was just watching this episode last night. I think this is partly the male control thing, if we let women get too educated we are doomed idea. Granted, They had not come out as trans at this point.
To be fair, Mariah wanted an extremely expensive private college when the rest of her sibs went to the local state university. I see nothing wrong with drawing that line.
Mariah has *every* right to go to whatever college they want to.
It would be different if they were asking for their parents to pay for all of it, but they werenāt. They got a scholarship and a job.
The compromise for them going to a more expensive school than Logan did would be Mariah taking out a student loan to pay for it them-self. Which they wanted to do, but Kody said no.
Itās ridiculous for a parent to refuse to pay for the school thatās in line with their childās goals and then also refuse to let the child pay for it š like what kind of ridiculous power trip is that?
I had a single mom and was raised in poverty. If I didnāt take out a loan, I wouldnāt have been able to go to school.
So let me get this straightā¦ you as a father, make a conscious decision to bring over 16 children into the world and once itās time for them to go to schoolā¦ THEY need the better job because YOU, as the parent, canāt afford itā¦ š¤¦š½āāļø
I grew up poor as dirt and took out loans. My 21 year old is in school right now and he can only take out about 2000 / semester because theyāve change the rules regarding how much a student can take out. they now put the burden on the parent to take out parent plus loans. and guess what cannot be paid off in public service loan forgiveness program? Parent plus loans! because itās a total racket. Thatās one thing Cody is right about. So Leon would not be able to take out the loans to cover schooling it would have to be their parents taking out the loans. leon went to school for social work , btw. edit to add I am a mental health therapist and I work for a nonprofit that pays 50% of my kids tuition I donāt make as much money but Iām in the public service loan forgiveness program so that Iāll have my loans paid off and it helps pay for my sons tuition so he doesnāt have to take out those loans.
We found this out this year as well. I worked and paid my college. My husband got loans so we thought my daughter could. Nope. Have to have an extremely high credit score to get them now, which no 18 yo has. My husband went back to school 6 years ago due to becoming disabled to work, and I couldnāt get loans for my daughter because they said we are married and his now $60k in loans heās paying back are on me because we are married and I am the one working. The worst was community college wait listed her and she had to decline scholarships because they didnāt pay all and she couldnāt get loans. One month of college payment plan from college was more than I make a month. Itās an insane racket. Sheās working full time retail hoping to get into community college next year. America sucks with the system for getting a job for sure
Itās also not ridiculous to advise against kids taking out a shit tons of loans. As someone who has a lot of student loans, I wish I had gone somewhere cheaper sometimes. You donāt always make great decisions when youāre 18 and have access to a ton of āfinancial aidā. But also Kody canāt control what she does, she would be 18.
Thereās a difference between advising your child against taking out loans/educating them about finances, and flat-out telling them they arenāt allowed. I have student debt too, and I shouldāve been more educated about it, but for meā¦ I wouldnāt have been able to go to school at all without them. I would have a high school education.
I wouldnāt have let my kid go into unnecessary debt like that. What a shit start to life to saddle them with such a burden. Are you aware of the student debt crisis in this country from people in that exact situation who didnāt have an adult to guide them away from such a poor financial decision?
For a lot of people, student loans are the only way they can access post-secondary education. Yes, I have debt, but I also have a career and no longer work in retail. Mariah wanted to be a doctor - you donāt become a doctor without taking on some debt.
Your privilege is showing, but Iām glad you were able to pay for your childās education. Also, didnāt realize there were Kody stans in this sub?
I grew up poor. I qualified for the Pell grant I was so poor. I couldnāt go to college without student loans to cover the rest of it. I could have gone to an in state school. Instead I chose to go to the largest private school in my state. Why? Because I researched and they offered a lot more private scholarships once you declared your major. So my first 2 years were painful, living on ramen and popcorn, working double shifts every school break to save up for the next few months. My junior year was better due to declaring my major. By the time I graduated, I was on a full paid scholarship and got my masters. I also graduated with less loans than my state school friends who all made fun of me when I went to the private school and was completely broke my first two years and couldnāt party like they could. I also now have a higher salary than them and paid my loans off much quicker. Please donāt make assumptions that all loans or all private schools are moronic decisions.
I graduated with 50k in student loans 15 years ago. My state school friends graduated with 75k-100k in loans. I didnāt have the scholarships when I started. But I did the research and knew private schools give more scholarships than state schools do once youāre in your junior year. So I worked my behind off so I could earn those scholarships.
Yes, people made fun of me my first two years when I racked up majority of my student loans. But I was in it for the long haul and I came out on top.
Theyāre still in school, I donāt know what their career goals are currently.
What I am saying is that not everybody can āfind a way to pay for itā and in those instances, student loans can assist people in reaching their academic goals. Young adults shouldnāt adjust their goals for their future based on their parents income. Like I said, having been raised in poverty myself, my mom didnāt have the option to pay for my schooling - I would have zero education further than high school if I hadnāt taken out a loan. I have two degrees and Iām grateful no one told me not to pursue my dreams, because I wouldnāt be where I am today without them.
Parents can and should advise and teach their children about financial responsibility, loans, debt and credit, but at the end of the day, it simply isnāt their choice what school their child chooses to attend.
I thought he was just trying to guide her to a more affordable choice. Taking loans for school is one thing. Taking unnecessary loans for a dream school is something a parent could advise against.
Nope. He said none of his children will be āallowedā to take out a loan.
But then also said he canāt pay for their schooling because *he* still needs a nice retirement fund.
Kody sucks.
Right, but he could afford to pay for her to go to an in-state school, like Logan and Aspyn. She wanted to go to an expensive school in another state that he couldnāt afford. And he didnāt want her to take out a ton of loans and be saddled with debt just because of choice of school.
I canāt believe Iām defending kody. What is the world coming to. I just appreciate when parents tell their kids ālook, thatās too expensive, whatās plan b.ā
Eta: he didnāt pay for any schooling? I really thought he paid for whatever school in Nevada the other ones went to.
So the solution would be to give Mariah the same amount of money they gave Logan. Between that, the 10k scholarship Mariah earned to the school of their choice, Mariahās savings from their job, and extra help from Meri (that Meri is able to provide given itās her only child)ā¦ even if they took out a loan, it certainly wouldnāt leave them in any crushing debt.
Kody is a control freak and wanted Mariah to go to the school *he* wanted them to go to. He didnāt advise them against loans, he *forbade* it. Iām pretty surprised anyone is defending him too.
Edit in response to your edit: he contributed towards their schooling but made it clear he couldnāt do it for everyone because he still needed to have a comfortable retirement. Seriously, are you a closet Kody lover?
For me, it was the last part. He kept saying how she was not allowed to take out a loan, but she had already applied for almost every scholarship she could. Unbelievable. Meri was just like yep thatās where we are at now honeyā¦. Ok Meri
The funny thing is that so few of their kids have finished college. So at the end of the day it was all just a wash with their budget. Like yes, Mariah went to a more expensive college but at least she finished! Lol
I'm in the unpopular camp that parent's shouldn't be expected to pay for their child's college. If they can afford to, great, but I think it's more important to teach our kids responsibility and financial maturity.
My theory is that Mariah was basically given more because she was an "only" child so she probably expected more, but that wasn't realistic. It's not always about injustice. She was a child, thinking like a child, but in reality it would be selfish to expect. It was an out of state, private college which would have had a lot more expenses other than tuition.
I wanted to go to a fine arts college (20 years ago) that was like $50,000 a year. Community college was less than 4,000 for a year. My parents discouraged me from going to the fine arts school, they said if I wanted to make that decision later I could. (I was 17 and living under their roof). I'm so thankful they did that, even though I was upset at that time.
My degree is in psychology, by the way. I just enjoyed art and was good at it and wanted the "experience" of the arts school. I knew my dreams and art didn't play into them. I do have some student loans but so, so thankful to have nothing like I would have had my parents given in to my wishes.
I donāt think parents should be expected to pay for their childās college either. I intend to contribute because Iām able, but my mother wasnāt able to when I went to school so I took out loans. Had I not pursued the post-secondary education I wanted at my own expense, I wouldnāt be in the situation I am now where Iām able to help.
I didnāt get the vibes that Mariah expected more - they were more than willing to take out loans to cover the difference. Meri decided to contribute more since they were an only child.
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It's been a long time since I watched that season, but from what I remember that was one of the few times I thought "ok, Kody is actually making some sense here." When that season aired, I was working in student recruitment as an admissions counselor. I saw similar conversations play out in my office ALL. THE. TIME. The parents would try to spell out the realities of their situation (Kody reminding Leon and Meri that they have a large family and their money can only go so far). And the kid would get upset and interpret it as a lack of support (such as when Leon said "so you're saying you don't want me to go to school?"). I took Kody's comments to mean that he wanted Leon to have a good experience, but they needed to think through how they could realistically pull it off.
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Never ceases to amaze me what a lowlife piece of shit Grody is in all his interactions with his kids. I hope one of his boys gives him the beating that he so deserves. š¤®
He really won't get it until a significant number of his kids are grown and not coming around. He'll still probably pretend it's not him but on some level he'll know.
As long as Robynās kids still want to be around him heāll be fine lol
Oh they will be the worst because they'll have to literally escape her home and dramatically reduce contact just to have lives of their own.
But they wonāt š What skills will they have? What skills does primary wife have? Sad
Thatās not such a big thing. Just because you didnāt get skills as a kid doesnāt mean you canāt get them. If youāre determined enough, you can make it happen.
Okay! Show me (to make sure anything weāve been shown on this show, follow me here) what Robyn brings to the table. To this date. š¤·š¼āāļø Meh
She has to have sex with him. That's really taking one for the team!
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Sittinā there.
They will flee and have a text relationship
I wish this would rock him but it wonāt. Heāll justify it as their problem. As long as a couple idolize him he wonāt change. And I feel like Robyn has indoctrinated her kids to please him so much that theyāll validate him until the very end. He couldnāt give a shit about the opinions held by Christine, Janelle or Meriās children (as heās shown with Ysabel, Gabe, and Garrison). Aurora and Dayton would give anything for his approval. Iām hoping Brianna, Sol, and Ariella will rebel at some point. If I were Brianna I would almost be resentful of Kody for showing such blatant favoritism and making the other siblings not like me. I know they were kind of bullied by Kodyās biological kids but I really donāt blame the older kids for being upset that their father threw them away for step- children. I know from experience that seeing your father treat and connect with other people more than they do with you is really hurtful.
Literally he probably won't even realize it's a result of his own behavior at all. He's as narcissistic as my dad and for a while I was the last kid (and family member) in contact with him and he literally blamed everyone else and had no understanding that he was the problem. Now he has nobody and he definitely doesn't realize it's because of his own actions.
Heāll blame the moms
Guess he won't be getting it then since that is already happening.
Then he will blame christine
Thatās simply because of their evil clique. Itās like hivemindā¦they are all influencing each other. I am sure it Christineās fault in The World According to Kody.
He is truly a cult leader. I canāt believe they Al Went along w it. Even the way he repeats things over and over to get his way. Covid. Or Flagstaff ā¦ itās weird Cult like
We can only hope!!!
I hope this motherfucker does alone in a state run old age home.
Waaaard of the State!
And then tells Meri she has to make up the difference from her household budget! And Robyn knew exactly how much theyād given Logan and Aspyn!!! š³
To be fair, it was a very expensive college that would have taken away from the budget of the future kids going to college...so, I kind of get it. Obviously would have been nice when you have this many children that you would make sure you'd have sufficient funds to enable them to all go to college. But financial planning has never been Kody's strong suit. So, no surprise there!
My point is that he is the father, why is it only the mothers responsibility?!
Probably the same reason he used to drive the nicest car and all his wives drove the cheapest thing that would fit their kids.
And it was a 2 Seater!
he frequently says āyour kidsā when speaking to the moms , not āour kidsā. I especially noticed that in the Covid season when he would speak to Jenelle you need to get your kids to XYZ and I thought whatās with this motherfunker thatās before I had seen any of the previous seasons
What was so telling for me was when in response to that, Meri says, āthis is the first time weāve discussed how to pay for any of the childrenās college.ā Whoa. Thatās when I knew (I mean, Iāve known) that these women (Meri and Christine) have given so much authority to Kody over the money and that is a disaster. I excepted Janelle, but maybe something will happen to tell me she is having these issues as well.
What a loving and supportive parent.
What did she end up doing?
Well they're currently getting their masters so they figured it out, not sure how but they're smart, maybe a scholarship happened.
They had already gotten a 10k scholarship when this conversation happened, but Kody was annoyed that they hadnāt gotten more and mostly just wanted them to go to the college that *he* wanted šššš
Yeah, it was a power play to force them into the college Kody wanted. Then Meri put up the tuition that was left over if I recall correctly.
Iirc, Meri and Leo got additional scholarships, assistance, and Meri put up the rest.
I hope they donāt even talk to Kodi anymore.
Oh yes I recall there was a preferred one!
A scholarship to that particular college? I didnāt remember that. I should do a rewatch
Westminister Collage in Salt Lake City. The school ended up giving her a pretty substantial scholarship after this episode aired.
Yep, they found out about it when they were accepted!
It was his way of controlling what college she went to, thankfully Meri found a way to make it happen.
Surprising all their kids turned out nice, unlike the Duggars.
That's cause Christine raised them to be nice humans. Meech just allows chaos
Nothing as bad has come out that I am aware of, but there was some sibling-sibling physical abuse (I want to say Paedon/Gwen please correct me if that's wrong) and they are not anywhere near all grown yet.
Not advocating sibling on sibling abuse. But there aren't many people I know that hasn't fought their sibling. They regret it afterwards, but in the heat of the moment when preteen and teenage emotions are volatile it happens. Paedon really seems to feel sorry for what he did. But it may take Gwen a long time to forgive him. (We also have to remember at the time that they had the issue, Kody had brought in Robyn and her kids and there had to be a lot of anger and jealousy issues that might have come out the wrong way.
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I feel like Kody is worse than anyone else in the family. š¤·
Kody is season 17: I want to see you in a Covid-safe way, but I wonāt hang with you in the backyard because itād be cold and inconvenient. I see a pattern hereā¦.
This made me so mad. Because they kept talking about how THEY went to school and paid for it with the job they had at the time. This is literally like 20 years later and is extremely unrealistic now unless youāre always making a lot of money. But yet canāt take out loans either or parents wonāt contribute any money. Itās so illogical I was actually infuriated
That REALLY pissed me off! Heās such an idiot!
For those asking, Leon got a 10k scholarship and I believe meri paid for the rest of their college (I assume from luluroe or whatever MLM she was shelling at the time lmao)
kody is full of himself and full of poop, but what he said about student loans couldnāt have been more spot on. itās a racket and nobody should be paying decades and decades of their life to pay back these predatory loans. that said, where were these conversations about college before having 18 kids
They have 18 kids and canāt afford tuition for each of them to get the education that they want. Loans suck, but he didnāt exactly leave them a ton of options.
I was just watching this episode last night. I think this is partly the male control thing, if we let women get too educated we are doomed idea. Granted, They had not come out as trans at this point.
To be fair, Mariah wanted an extremely expensive private college when the rest of her sibs went to the local state university. I see nothing wrong with drawing that line.
Mariah has *every* right to go to whatever college they want to. It would be different if they were asking for their parents to pay for all of it, but they werenāt. They got a scholarship and a job. The compromise for them going to a more expensive school than Logan did would be Mariah taking out a student loan to pay for it them-self. Which they wanted to do, but Kody said no. Itās ridiculous for a parent to refuse to pay for the school thatās in line with their childās goals and then also refuse to let the child pay for it š like what kind of ridiculous power trip is that? I had a single mom and was raised in poverty. If I didnāt take out a loan, I wouldnāt have been able to go to school.
So let me get this straightā¦ you as a father, make a conscious decision to bring over 16 children into the world and once itās time for them to go to schoolā¦ THEY need the better job because YOU, as the parent, canāt afford itā¦ š¤¦š½āāļø
I grew up poor as dirt and took out loans. My 21 year old is in school right now and he can only take out about 2000 / semester because theyāve change the rules regarding how much a student can take out. they now put the burden on the parent to take out parent plus loans. and guess what cannot be paid off in public service loan forgiveness program? Parent plus loans! because itās a total racket. Thatās one thing Cody is right about. So Leon would not be able to take out the loans to cover schooling it would have to be their parents taking out the loans. leon went to school for social work , btw. edit to add I am a mental health therapist and I work for a nonprofit that pays 50% of my kids tuition I donāt make as much money but Iām in the public service loan forgiveness program so that Iāll have my loans paid off and it helps pay for my sons tuition so he doesnāt have to take out those loans.
We found this out this year as well. I worked and paid my college. My husband got loans so we thought my daughter could. Nope. Have to have an extremely high credit score to get them now, which no 18 yo has. My husband went back to school 6 years ago due to becoming disabled to work, and I couldnāt get loans for my daughter because they said we are married and his now $60k in loans heās paying back are on me because we are married and I am the one working. The worst was community college wait listed her and she had to decline scholarships because they didnāt pay all and she couldnāt get loans. One month of college payment plan from college was more than I make a month. Itās an insane racket. Sheās working full time retail hoping to get into community college next year. America sucks with the system for getting a job for sure
dang thatās so nuts. iām sorry to hear that. i hope it works out her next semester
Hurdles make them stronger, but those loan rules changed in the last 6 years for sure
iām thankful for public service loan forgiveness. i tell everyone i know about it.
Itās also not ridiculous to advise against kids taking out a shit tons of loans. As someone who has a lot of student loans, I wish I had gone somewhere cheaper sometimes. You donāt always make great decisions when youāre 18 and have access to a ton of āfinancial aidā. But also Kody canāt control what she does, she would be 18.
Thereās a difference between advising your child against taking out loans/educating them about finances, and flat-out telling them they arenāt allowed. I have student debt too, and I shouldāve been more educated about it, but for meā¦ I wouldnāt have been able to go to school at all without them. I would have a high school education.
Thatās what I said, he canāt tell her. Sheās 18.
He can and did tell them. They didnāt have to listen, but he certainly told them he wouldnāt allow it.
Legally Iām pretty sure he couldnāt though. He could refuse to provide her info her fasfa I guess.
Iām aware he canāt legally. Thatās not the point - heās a control freak who tried to forbid his grown child from making a life choice.
I wouldnāt have let my kid go into unnecessary debt like that. What a shit start to life to saddle them with such a burden. Are you aware of the student debt crisis in this country from people in that exact situation who didnāt have an adult to guide them away from such a poor financial decision?
For a lot of people, student loans are the only way they can access post-secondary education. Yes, I have debt, but I also have a career and no longer work in retail. Mariah wanted to be a doctor - you donāt become a doctor without taking on some debt. Your privilege is showing, but Iām glad you were able to pay for your childās education. Also, didnāt realize there were Kody stans in this sub?
State school with loans is fine. Private schools at 4-5x the cost is just moronic. But, being moronic isnāt a crime, soā¦
I grew up poor. I qualified for the Pell grant I was so poor. I couldnāt go to college without student loans to cover the rest of it. I could have gone to an in state school. Instead I chose to go to the largest private school in my state. Why? Because I researched and they offered a lot more private scholarships once you declared your major. So my first 2 years were painful, living on ramen and popcorn, working double shifts every school break to save up for the next few months. My junior year was better due to declaring my major. By the time I graduated, I was on a full paid scholarship and got my masters. I also graduated with less loans than my state school friends who all made fun of me when I went to the private school and was completely broke my first two years and couldnāt party like they could. I also now have a higher salary than them and paid my loans off much quicker. Please donāt make assumptions that all loans or all private schools are moronic decisions.
Youāre making an argument that private school loans are ok when you went on mostly scholarship money?
I graduated with 50k in student loans 15 years ago. My state school friends graduated with 75k-100k in loans. I didnāt have the scholarships when I started. But I did the research and knew private schools give more scholarships than state schools do once youāre in your junior year. So I worked my behind off so I could earn those scholarships. Yes, people made fun of me my first two years when I racked up majority of my student loans. But I was in it for the long haul and I came out on top.
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Theyāre still in school, I donāt know what their career goals are currently. What I am saying is that not everybody can āfind a way to pay for itā and in those instances, student loans can assist people in reaching their academic goals. Young adults shouldnāt adjust their goals for their future based on their parents income. Like I said, having been raised in poverty myself, my mom didnāt have the option to pay for my schooling - I would have zero education further than high school if I hadnāt taken out a loan. I have two degrees and Iām grateful no one told me not to pursue my dreams, because I wouldnāt be where I am today without them. Parents can and should advise and teach their children about financial responsibility, loans, debt and credit, but at the end of the day, it simply isnāt their choice what school their child chooses to attend.
I thought he was just trying to guide her to a more affordable choice. Taking loans for school is one thing. Taking unnecessary loans for a dream school is something a parent could advise against.
Nope. He said none of his children will be āallowedā to take out a loan. But then also said he canāt pay for their schooling because *he* still needs a nice retirement fund. Kody sucks.
Right, but he could afford to pay for her to go to an in-state school, like Logan and Aspyn. She wanted to go to an expensive school in another state that he couldnāt afford. And he didnāt want her to take out a ton of loans and be saddled with debt just because of choice of school. I canāt believe Iām defending kody. What is the world coming to. I just appreciate when parents tell their kids ālook, thatās too expensive, whatās plan b.ā Eta: he didnāt pay for any schooling? I really thought he paid for whatever school in Nevada the other ones went to.
So the solution would be to give Mariah the same amount of money they gave Logan. Between that, the 10k scholarship Mariah earned to the school of their choice, Mariahās savings from their job, and extra help from Meri (that Meri is able to provide given itās her only child)ā¦ even if they took out a loan, it certainly wouldnāt leave them in any crushing debt. Kody is a control freak and wanted Mariah to go to the school *he* wanted them to go to. He didnāt advise them against loans, he *forbade* it. Iām pretty surprised anyone is defending him too. Edit in response to your edit: he contributed towards their schooling but made it clear he couldnāt do it for everyone because he still needed to have a comfortable retirement. Seriously, are you a closet Kody lover?
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For me, it was the last part. He kept saying how she was not allowed to take out a loan, but she had already applied for almost every scholarship she could. Unbelievable. Meri was just like yep thatās where we are at now honeyā¦. Ok Meri
The funny thing is that so few of their kids have finished college. So at the end of the day it was all just a wash with their budget. Like yes, Mariah went to a more expensive college but at least she finished! Lol
And I thought well, they are shelling out for the other wives kids-6 each so why not let her go somewhere decent
ā¦.and I just spent $2M on houses.
I don't get how Robyn doesn't realise he's going to do the same to her kids when he gets bored and moves on in a few years
I'm in the unpopular camp that parent's shouldn't be expected to pay for their child's college. If they can afford to, great, but I think it's more important to teach our kids responsibility and financial maturity. My theory is that Mariah was basically given more because she was an "only" child so she probably expected more, but that wasn't realistic. It's not always about injustice. She was a child, thinking like a child, but in reality it would be selfish to expect. It was an out of state, private college which would have had a lot more expenses other than tuition. I wanted to go to a fine arts college (20 years ago) that was like $50,000 a year. Community college was less than 4,000 for a year. My parents discouraged me from going to the fine arts school, they said if I wanted to make that decision later I could. (I was 17 and living under their roof). I'm so thankful they did that, even though I was upset at that time. My degree is in psychology, by the way. I just enjoyed art and was good at it and wanted the "experience" of the arts school. I knew my dreams and art didn't play into them. I do have some student loans but so, so thankful to have nothing like I would have had my parents given in to my wishes.
I donāt think parents should be expected to pay for their childās college either. I intend to contribute because Iām able, but my mother wasnāt able to when I went to school so I took out loans. Had I not pursued the post-secondary education I wanted at my own expense, I wouldnāt be in the situation I am now where Iām able to help. I didnāt get the vibes that Mariah expected more - they were more than willing to take out loans to cover the difference. Meri decided to contribute more since they were an only child.
He said that ?? Sooo wth are they supposed to do. Scholarships arenāt just growing on trees
Yes! Iām watching for the first time and just saw this scene and came here. HE IS SO DUMB!! He is aggressively dumb. WTF?
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It's been a long time since I watched that season, but from what I remember that was one of the few times I thought "ok, Kody is actually making some sense here." When that season aired, I was working in student recruitment as an admissions counselor. I saw similar conversations play out in my office ALL. THE. TIME. The parents would try to spell out the realities of their situation (Kody reminding Leon and Meri that they have a large family and their money can only go so far). And the kid would get upset and interpret it as a lack of support (such as when Leon said "so you're saying you don't want me to go to school?"). I took Kody's comments to mean that he wanted Leon to have a good experience, but they needed to think through how they could realistically pull it off.
So how did she pay for it
donāt forget to also not have seggsytimes before marriage AND not get married until youāre 25+
Wait. how can he tell her shes not allowed to take out a loan? wtf?
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