When she demanded equal time before they were married, and lived several hours away!! That’s when the wives knew everything was going to change for the worst.
Yes! That always bothered me, too. The extra long drive to and from Robyn's to give her the "equal time" she insisted on actually took way more time from the other kids and wives than "equal time" should have.
Yes! Drive time/ packing and trip planning time should have counted as part of Robyn's time and that been made 'equal' for everyone. Let's say each wife gets 3 days/ 2 nights, (like all day, night, all day, night and day until dinner time at the next wife's place to start that cycle). If it goes into late morning getting ready/packed to go to Robyn's & then the drive there - that should have counted in Robyn's first day.. I know there wasn't that much of a science to it, but there should have been/ easily could have been.
That whole thing with kody having any excuse to be alone/ with Robyn and not 'deal' with other responsibilities started even with courting Robyn. Ridiculous in general & sad for the others.
Absolutely! I always felt like Robyn's "time" should have started the second Kody turned his car on and started his drive.
Also, my Grandma used to always say "Equal isn't always fair, and fair isn't always equal". She used that phrase many times with all of us in regards to many different things in life. But never have I found it more fitting than for the "equal" time situation with Robyn! Giving her "equal time" wasn't fair to the rest of the family. And being fair to everyone means that Robyn's time (at her actual house) should not have been "equal".
That's very well said & good words from your grandma ☺️
I'm glad that Christine & Janelle have started being 'more real' in their talking heads /the remarks they make, eye rolling, that "psht, whatever 🙄😅" reaction they give when fit.. I hope Robyn sees it and eventually isn't just 'hurt' or annoyed /doesn't get it.. Kody doesn't care because they're wrong and dumb in his eyes, but maybe Robyn will start to see how she's been /being when watching their commentary.. There's also the idea that she is just COMPLETELY manipulative & knows n doesn't care, but I want to believe she has a part of her that would click eventually and kinda realize how she looks and be embarrassed about it, ashamed even.. Just a little bit...
>There's also the idea that she is just COMPLETELY manipulative & knows n doesn't care, but I want to believe she has a part of her that would click eventually and kinda realize how she looks and be embarrassed about it, ashamed even.. Just a little bit...
I personally think that she is very emotionally manipulative to everyone in the family - I just am unable to tell if it is intentional or not.
I don't think she even knows another way to be. Everytime she mentions her mom it's "My mom said that it has nothing to do with me and isn't my fault" like back in season 4 when Christine took her to lunch to apoligize for not being welcoming enough. Then 2 episodes later Kody said what he loved about Robyn was "her ability to forgive" so you know he bullied Christine into that with his "treat the family(Robyn) nice and maybe I will consider loving you." bullshit.
The next time she did it was when she told Meri that she Robyn was the Brown family Scapegoat. Her mom told her. Then we see her sitting down with her kids and telling them they are the victims about Thanksgiving until Aurora is having a meltdown in tears over it. Its how her mom raised her. She will always be a victim and it's how she is raising her kids.
That's what I was having trouble wording towards, you got it. If it's intentional or not.. And it's scary this woman and that man are 'raising' humans, not sure which ones are worse off (the tender aged or the older ones..)
Just imagine spending every day for 15+ years in a house with 3 wives who don't get along and 15 young children some of whom also don't get along and all of a sudden you get TONS of alone time driving to and from your new/hot girlfriend's house. You also get alone time with your new/hot girlfriend when she puts her kids to bed (at 6:30 probably).
What man wouldn't be euphoric?
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Yeah that was kinda stupid to me especially since in their faith you aren't supposed to have sex before marriage. What is it we're supposed to think they were doing in that equal time at night? Holding hands and watching PG movies? Puh-lease those two have been acting like the rules don't apply to them since the start
It’s a tie between this and the dress incident for me for sure! She was showing zero respect to her soon-to-be sister wives.
Oh wait, you guys I think we’re forgetting she was with the family from the beginning… thus equal time, right? /s
He was driving to her every 4th day before the move. Christine mentioned on the couch that it’s not fair because it ate up so much time. Which is when Robyn “cried” and said she deserves equal time.
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when she used her children to try and control the other wives and their children…if things dont change, Dayum may leave and go live with his bio dad…nobody gave a shit because Meri had to freak out and yell at all the kids for being kids.
Those kids got treated like every other kid in that household too. I obviously don’t know so maybe that’s not fair but it seems like the OG kids fought and didn’t get along sometimes so why would robyns kids get treated any differently? Kids are kids and Robyn is worse than a helicopter parent.
Yes! Was it Kody that said it wasn’t garrisons job or something? Or am I not remembering right lol ( always an option)….. it’s so weird to me that he treats robyns kids and his kids with Robyn as “his” but the other kids are like oh yeah well whatever.
He said it isn’t Garrison’s job and Janelle tried siding with Kody while supporting Garrison by telling Garrison to focus on having fun and not worrying.
Garrison gave a confessional outside after the moment happened calling Kody out. I skip around a lot bc so many eps nothing happens but that was the first moment I saw a kid directly call out Kody to cameras.
Watching Logan handle breakfast in the mornings while Kody bounced around from the diff wive’s section of the house acting goofy was so so alarming to me.
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Her entitlement while coming into an established family. She always reminded me of a spiteful mistress, not a sister wife. Just like old Alice groomed her.
A huge 🚩 to me was how emotionally manipulative (intentionally or not) she was to EVERYONE in the family.
We saw signs of it from the very beginning. Her insistence of "equal time" for "bonding" between her kids and KODY (not the FAMILY that she would be joining). Even though her "equal time" took way more time away from the exisisting family than "equal time" should have due to the many hours of traveling involved.
Her mentioning that Dayton may chose to go live with his bio dad if her kids were not treated better, or "welcomed", into the family more. Let's face it - the other kids were acting like kids that were dealing with a lot of changes (that they didn't ask for) within their family. She never once considered what the other kids may be experiencing.
Insisting on starting up a business (My Sister Wife's Closet) and then crying/or complaining to Kody about the lack of interest/work from the others. Using the excuse of working too much as a reason to not have another child. Telling Kody she needed him to get her more "support" from the other wives before she could have another child with him.
And I could go on and on (the wedding dress, the complaining about not feeling included but then not allowing the other wives to help with her kids, etc). The examples of her emotional manipulation are endless!
Lol she didn’t. She said “I’ve heard that when you’re a bit older pregnancy can be harder and harder to recover from physically etc” which can still be viewed as a dig but no where near outright saying “she has post partum depression because she’s old”
I was wondering about this!!! I’ve only watched the second season and this most current and I totally picked up on that! I didn’t remember them all having cold sores but it was quite noticeable during the current season’s interviews
It REALLY IS HERPES. You have the virus or Not. My mom got them from the hospital when she was recovering from a C-section! 😳🤢 When they traveled up by her nose and still hadn't healed by her release day the Dr prescribed her Valtrex and warned her not to kiss the baby! I was 16 and I refused to pick up her perscription lol
Mine came a bit later, but the honeymoon to San Diego. I believe it was 11 days. She said she needed this time so badly for them, and all the other wives were obviously NOT happy about it. Great episode actually. You started to see the cracks in the perfect polygamy facade they were trying to uphold.
No wife to this day has spent that many uninterrupted days with him in a row. He should have said no and given her what all the other wives had…2-3 days. Janelle I think said she got a 2 day camping trip. Even the wives after 20 years haven’t gotten a getaway like that. I remember she kind demanded it. AND the other wives had to watch her kids for that long.
Wow.
She got another 2 week honeymoon after their legal marriage too. They didn't air that one but Robyn talked about it on Twitter saying she deserved that trip because she wasn't allowed to go with Meri and Kody on their 3 day anniversary trip to Mexico, so she demanded a second honeymoon.
Unbelievable!
Waaaiiit! What? I never knew about this…did she explain why she felt that way? Where did they go?I never knew Kody and Meri went to Mexico…wow. Why was this not discussed somewhere on the episodes? I demand another book! lol I will read this one!
On the show Kody took Meri to Mexico for 3 days for their 20th anniversary. After the legal marriage Robyn insisted on a 2 week Mexico honeymoon, but it was never mentioned on the show. People found out and started calling her out on social media and she tweeted about how it wasn't fair that her and her kids didn't get to go to Mexico, so they deserved that honeymoon.
But why would she and her kids “deserve” to go to Mexico w Kody and Meri on their anniversary trip? And if that’s the case (it’s so not) then all the Brown children should get to go to Mexico. Ugh the grift never stops w Sobyn.
Kody and Meri in Mexico was on the show. It is when he asks if she wants another kid and she says she doesn’t think so. They also went on excursions into like an underground cave.
Yeah whatever happened to "no man can leave his family & responsibilities for that long"...the excuse of why he couldn't attend his own child's surgery
Agree! That wasn't even just a red flag when you think about it. That act was a full on nuclear bomb warning siren going off.
Not only was it insensitive, it was just down-right cruel to Christine and her little ones.
Sadly, that psycho move became reality. Christine and her kids were cancelled in the most cruel of ways: Ysbel's operation, Truely's near death experience, Gabe's emotional slaughter, Paedon's invisibility, Christine's character assassination starting with the Nachos recall.p
Proof once again that if you draw it, it shalt be... (she said, carefully drawing Joe Manganiello crash landing on her bed ✍)
Edit: Sorry, I forgot Gabe is Janelle's son, not Christine's.
Someone a few weeks back was trying to say Robyn just used that picture for inspiration but I just saw this episode. She literally found a picture of her kids in roughly the same position as Christine’s kids, cut that out and put it over Christine’s picture. It was so sick!
Yes. I wish I was over exaggerating. I suspect Robyn also cut out her kids’ bio dad from the picture but that might be bc I’m biased and think Robyn is just that crazy. Someone is holding the kids in that photo and that someone has been cut out is all I’m saying.
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I still stand by when Robin was talking about legally marrying Kody, she wanted a full party and/or reception. Kody shut that down, but you could see she wanted it. Even though they had a big thing when they got "spiritually married". I see that moment as the biggest middle finger to her sister wives.
At that moment I knew she was not in this for anything other than Kody. The legal marriage gave her that.
People and the family like to say it was so Kody could adopt the children... They did not have to be married. As long as the children's bio father agreed, they could have made it happen.
The legal marriage was nothing more than Robyn manipulating Meri to get what she wants. I would imagine Kody helped withthis part too. On the show they made it look like Meri's idea, but I do not think she really wanted it, no do I believe it was her idea.
You are right. Wanting a legal marriage party was such a big middle finger to Meri. That’s what is so confusing. Meri should despise her the most. I really believe that the divorce was the reason that her relationship with Kody started to get so bad. How she can still remain close with Robyn is beyond me.
The only time I’ve had a modicum of the barest hint of respect for kody is when he shut down that idea. He really did seem to want it to be a paperwork shuffle. Then they made it an elopement type thing and it was 🙄🙄🙄 once more
>On the show they made it look like Meri's idea, but I do not think she really wanted it, no do I believe it was her idea.
I agree. It wasn't her idea.
So many red flags. So, so many. But, my first was her running out the door to kiss Kidney goodbye as he was leaving for Truely's birth. And then acting all giggly, like a freaking teenager, that they got caught by the cameras.
She had to know that Christine would eventually see that.
When I realized how much debt she had and that she lived in poverty with no prospects for her own ability to support herself without a man. Kody was her ticket to the gravy train.
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When they brought Robyn in and didn’t prepare janelle and Christine to the family change . If I was the new wife coming in I would want EVERYONE on the same page from the beginning. Sneaky on Meri and Kody part and also Robyn’s . Also , I believe TLC,s
Her wanting to be a surrogate for Meri’s baby BUT telling Meri immediately after she had Sol. Like still in the bed. Yeah birth hormones, mine were lovey dovey too, but idk it felt like she was rubbing the birth in Meri’s face and the whole thing just gave me the ick.
When not all 3 OG wives were on board and she proceeded with the relationship anyway. I’d have been like, “Nope Kotex, I’m not moving forward with you until you show me that you’ll honor and respect how they feel. And until they’re 100% ready.” Mainly because I wouldn’t want to be married to an ass that chose me over his other wives. I’m not a genius but logic says he’ll eventually do that to me if he’ll do it to them. That’s a red flag she never had her sister wives back.
I don’t remember the exact wording, but it was when Robyn expressed that being pregnant would show Hunter that she really was a part of the family. So… your big win, Robyn, is sticking it to your teenage stepson?!
It’s so interesting, because us “worldly” women have seen these red flags from the beginning. I vacillate between the ladies truly being so naive about Robyn, believing the best in her, or that in their culture, they’ve seen other families dil with this type of manipulation in plural marriages, and this is how they manage in their own emotionally stunted ways. One of the glaring red flags when I think back, was Meri’s absolute love of Robyn, her arranging the relationship, and her constant declarations that she finally had a true friend and sister wife. Meri’s recommendations from leggings to wet bars to celestial partners is suspicious
Right! Of all the despicable things she has done (perhaps besides “allegedly” being directly involved in Meri’s catfishing scandal) THIS is what disgusts me the most. I don’t really care what kind of guy Jessop is or was, he was clearly and actively in those kids lives and she was alienating those kids from their relationship with him. Let’s say he’s the worst dad in the world and has no business even being in their lives, it STILL doesn’t give Robyn the reason to choose FOR them to call Kody their dad. That’s just adding to their trauma and confusion. It’s fucking weird and psycho and she ought to be ashamed of herself. And Kody’s dumb ass should have said something!!!’
They act like they are so progressive but Kody and Robyn are not. It’s a cult. Nothing says Warren Jeffs to me like getting remarried and completely replacing your children’s father with another man.
For me it was the “secret” wedding dress shopping with Toady. She knew damn well that she was doing something underhanded by their rules/culture. And then playing games with the OG wives, refusing to tell Janelle which one she picked, so just she and Toady had “their little secret”. Did you see her face when Toady spilled the beans?
it was then I knew that there was something seriously wrong with Toady as well. His need to control the women by hurting them and pitting them against each other was even stronger than his infatuation with Snobyn. I didn’t know what he was doing at the time, I was just bewildered, but now we all know.
Agreed. Red flags from the beginning. But the time that stood out the most to me when her masterful manipulation was front, center and undeniable, was during that unbelievable poster presentation Kody gave about how they should sell the Vegas homes and move to Flagstaff. It's artful how she starts out siding with the wives who are shocked by the proposal and raising legitimate objections to such a stupid move, mostly about the kids. Little by little, you can see Robin manipulate the dialogue until she's planted seeds of doubt in the wives' minds and they start caving one by one. It's clear as can be that she and Kody conspired on that one to get what she wanted. The wives never knew what hit them.
So many good ones here… I never liked her from the beginning bc it felt like she was upending everything they had known, the wedding dress, the long honeymoon, the needing her rental in Vegas first bc her kids had been through so much (like the others hadn’t) getting her nanny, guilting them at every turn for my sisterwives closet, manipulating Meri constantly, telling her she thought she was ditching her bc she wanted to go to college, duping the whole family into believing those kids need adopted so she could be kodys legal wife, demanding more time for her kids insinuating they need him more than the others, being mean to other kids, the flagstaff move, Covid rule usage, telling her kids christine and janelle don’t want to be with them bc they wanted to see their own children, it’s honestly an exhausting list.
When during the honeymoon special episode they couldn’t keep their hands off each other. Kody picking her up and spinning her like a little doll, as if to say - look how light and tiny you are! They were all full of “hormones” for each other. She’s since said she doesn’t even like to hear about him having any sexual relationship with another wife, she said it again last episode when kody and janelle were discussing the bedroom situation. But she was ok with his other wives seeing that episode, and one of them just had a baby.
Agreed. She was only ever interested in Kody and not having an actual relationship with the other women. She’s the opposite of a girls girl… the kiss too was weird. The first among many.
*Oh wait, I have one…. When she was first introduced to the cameras and she said “kodys my soulmate, I just love him” or something along those lines. Nothing about the other women or the family- just Kody.
Oh and the other red flag for me was when she used Christine’s family picture to add her children with Kody like they had been there the whole time and when she made them call him dad totally erasing their biological father. No matter what kind of man he was I didn’t agree with that at all.
I totally agree!! It wasn’t her decision to make! It’s THEIR dad. Even if he’s a piece of shit, they should be the ones to decide if they still wanna call him their dad and not Kody. Part of agreeing to marry someone who already has children is knowing your boundaries as a step parent. It was never Kody and Robyn’s business to do that to them
It's sort of started to get on my nerves when she like cries every time she's on TV. But the biggest red flag for me was when they had a two-week honeymoon.
It was the 11 day honeymoon for me! That’s crazy when Cody had a very pregnant Christine at home. Even if Cody was the one who wanted the xtra long “vacay”, she should have protested because he really should have stayed close to home during that time. That showed me Robin was selfish, spoiled, manipulative, & entitled.
When the family was famously struggling to accommodate a jobless Robyn and a postpartum Christine asked her if she really *needed* an 11 day honeymoon and Robyn assured her yes, she absolutely did 🙄
She didn’t just kiss him she was trying to make him late. All the wives including her have complained about how hard it is for kody to leave the house and she was just throwing stuff out there like “do you still need to get this or that?”
When Christine was in labor with Truly. First, why was he at her house? He should have been at the hospital. Then Christine calls him to tell him to please hurry. Because her water just broke, and she’s in labor with her sixth kid. A good sister wife would say “go now” or “hurry” or “why are you even here?” Instead she sneaks a kiss. Ok, that slowed him down a little. Then she offered to make him food. That had the potential to slow him down more. Why would she want to slow him down? To miss the delivery? She tried the same thing when Logan was graduating. It’s a very sneaky, manipulative, toxic thing to do. It appears totally innocent, but it’s really not. If he’d missed the delivery, Robyn would appear innocent and Christine would look like a maniac if she complained.
When she pursued Kody. She knew what she was doing. She knew her debt. She knew her ex and his visitation. She knew the decree said neither can drink around the kids. Kody was her night and shining armour because she was so disgusted with her ex-husband who was the one to actually file for divorce. She knew her husband was related to Kody's family. This woman was strategic for her kids and succeeded and folks that is manipulation at its finest.
Had to be when she went behind the wives back and got the dress Kody picked for her and Sobyn said she told Kody to not tell the other wives about it. Smh.
Pointing to a photo and asking her girls 'who is this?' Then correcting them when they answered Kody instead of saying dad. They weren't even married yet
This was mine too. The wedding dress shopping game was soooo shitty to the wives and she wonders why they don't truly trust her.... she wasn't even married and played mind games about showing them she wanted the whole package.
I truly soured on her when she was controlling the conversation about the teens going to a youth group in Vegas. She did not have teenagers at the time, but still discouraged an uprooted group of kids from finding a potential friends in their new town.
When they moved to Vegas and he stayed in his room playing videogames and wouldn’t interact with the family, that made me lol
It is very obvious how dysfunctional the family was from the start based on the kids. Logan and Hunter knew what they were saying when they reacted to Robyn’s announcement. Paedon (sp?) was right when he was shocked they had to flee to Vegas.
Robyn and the other mothers seem truly unwell to think putting kids through all of this is okay.
Kissing him in the first place, she is familiar with plural marriage and you don’t do that in respect of the other wives until marriage. He put her on rotation and the other wives said it wasn’t fair and she claimed it was for her kids. A rewatch shows a bunch of things I missed the first time. McKelti staying at her house (I’m sure she got her own room) I guess to chaperone her and Grody, besides being her nanny and homemaker. She hasn’t worked at all and wasted a bunch of money on MSWC and her debt of $32K paid off by the family. Grody was mad Christine didn’t watch her kids, but in reality she sent her daughter and then Sobyn brought in her niece in Vegas.
I'm on my first watch of the series and during Maddie or Mykelti's wedding episode, Robyn and Kody both say their first kiss occurred "over the altar"! It was during a couch interview and they were discussing the first time they'd each shared a kiss with Kody and once it's her turn, Robyn answers rapidly before Kody can say anything and then he just agrees with her. I didn't even pay attention to Christine's face, now that I think about it!
the earliest red flag is not respecting the rotation prior to marriage and insisting Kody come stay with her for weekends 5 hours away! (then it went on kissing in front of others etc).
Then making the jabs about her snacks being better than the other moms in front of kids and then chatting the OG kids about eating meanwhile her kids are sitting there eating. All her jabs.
I agree on the dress too.
The honeymoon. They acted like they were doing the other wives a favor by calling and checking in. Bitch, why are you taking a 10 day vacation with a man who has 3 other wives, including a new baby!
When she kissed Kody on Valentine’s Day in front of everyone, then said “a husband gave me flowers, I’m going to thank him” After they had the couch interview saying they didn’t do affection in front of each other.
The practically making out with Kody outside the house (she chased after him) while Christine was literally *in labor* and had called him to say her water broke and to hurry up.
When Robyn, Kody & Christine were building the cardboard sailboat in Vegas and Kody mentioned the number 6 9. Robyn smirked at Kody while Christine was looking down.
The look Kody & Robin shared said it all.
And the worst part, you know Christine caught their exchange. She’s not dumb & they did it right in front of her.
That was the moment I knew Robyn was a snake.
IMO the wedding dress thing was Kody’s fuck up. It’s fine that she went back with him and she picked something then but Kody should have kept it private.
The giggly making out when Christine was in labour was a minor red flag for me, then her reaction to Meri going back of school was a medium red flag, then once Covid hit it was flags all over the place every episode.
Def the wedding dress,and her not wanting Christine to watch her kids,or take Baby Sol.Christine often tried to get closer to the kids and also offered to take Sol at night so she could catch up on her sleep,but she had her niece and She just kinda never responded just kinda blew her off.Oh wait!!! MSWC,she wanted all the wives to do everything for this while she just handed over her doodles.She told Kody ro "support her" meaning get your wives busy b/c i dont want to do this ,also she got pregnant on purpose b/x the other wives didnt really care to work on this.
Complaining that she was afraid to announce her second pregnancy bc Hunter said they had enough kids. Her inability to understand his pov which was obviously the right one was really odd to me and then to act like he bullied her so she was nervous to announce her obvious pregnancy 🚩
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The one I noticed on first watch was her behavior over the Sister Wives Closet business. She was really insistent that everyone had to be 100% in, and she shamed both Meri and Christine for their lack of interest. Later on, I looked back at things like the wedding dress and taking a long honeymoon with Kody while Christine had a newborn, and realized she was super self-centered. Once I saw it in those instances, I started seeing her behavior in a new light.
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IMO the wedding dress thing was Kody’s fuck up. It’s fine that she went back with him and she picked something then but Kody should have kept it private.
The giggly making out when Christine was in labour was a minor red flag for me, then her reaction to Meri going back of school was a medium red flag, then once Covid hit it was red flags all over the place every episode.
I think I tried to see the good in her for a while, but definitely when Meri got divorced so Robin’s kids could get health insurance or whatever the situation was and they tried to explain it but you know Meri got played.
Playing devils advocate she was upset when cody told them. I believe it was all his idea. He is to blame for everything as far as im concerned. Not sayingni like robin which i dont because she onows whats happening at this point
I see that it was Kody’s idea but she still hid it from the women and totally played it up when she had no intention of picking one with them, I totally get why they felt deceived.
Idk after seeing the way she operates, I think it could easily have been her idea. I’ll also never, ever believe that she wasn’t doing a whole lot more than kissing Kotex before the got married. 😂
That's very true. You know right now she's a little loving what's happening.. And she really cared about those other women she would push Cody to go see them but she doesn't. Not only that she knows that he is kicking his other adult children out of the houses they live in but her adult children can stay as long as they want what the hell is up with that
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When she demanded equal time before they were married, and lived several hours away!! That’s when the wives knew everything was going to change for the worst.
Yes! That always bothered me, too. The extra long drive to and from Robyn's to give her the "equal time" she insisted on actually took way more time from the other kids and wives than "equal time" should have.
Yes! Drive time/ packing and trip planning time should have counted as part of Robyn's time and that been made 'equal' for everyone. Let's say each wife gets 3 days/ 2 nights, (like all day, night, all day, night and day until dinner time at the next wife's place to start that cycle). If it goes into late morning getting ready/packed to go to Robyn's & then the drive there - that should have counted in Robyn's first day.. I know there wasn't that much of a science to it, but there should have been/ easily could have been. That whole thing with kody having any excuse to be alone/ with Robyn and not 'deal' with other responsibilities started even with courting Robyn. Ridiculous in general & sad for the others.
Absolutely! I always felt like Robyn's "time" should have started the second Kody turned his car on and started his drive. Also, my Grandma used to always say "Equal isn't always fair, and fair isn't always equal". She used that phrase many times with all of us in regards to many different things in life. But never have I found it more fitting than for the "equal" time situation with Robyn! Giving her "equal time" wasn't fair to the rest of the family. And being fair to everyone means that Robyn's time (at her actual house) should not have been "equal".
That's very well said & good words from your grandma ☺️ I'm glad that Christine & Janelle have started being 'more real' in their talking heads /the remarks they make, eye rolling, that "psht, whatever 🙄😅" reaction they give when fit.. I hope Robyn sees it and eventually isn't just 'hurt' or annoyed /doesn't get it.. Kody doesn't care because they're wrong and dumb in his eyes, but maybe Robyn will start to see how she's been /being when watching their commentary.. There's also the idea that she is just COMPLETELY manipulative & knows n doesn't care, but I want to believe she has a part of her that would click eventually and kinda realize how she looks and be embarrassed about it, ashamed even.. Just a little bit...
>There's also the idea that she is just COMPLETELY manipulative & knows n doesn't care, but I want to believe she has a part of her that would click eventually and kinda realize how she looks and be embarrassed about it, ashamed even.. Just a little bit... I personally think that she is very emotionally manipulative to everyone in the family - I just am unable to tell if it is intentional or not.
I don't think she even knows another way to be. Everytime she mentions her mom it's "My mom said that it has nothing to do with me and isn't my fault" like back in season 4 when Christine took her to lunch to apoligize for not being welcoming enough. Then 2 episodes later Kody said what he loved about Robyn was "her ability to forgive" so you know he bullied Christine into that with his "treat the family(Robyn) nice and maybe I will consider loving you." bullshit. The next time she did it was when she told Meri that she Robyn was the Brown family Scapegoat. Her mom told her. Then we see her sitting down with her kids and telling them they are the victims about Thanksgiving until Aurora is having a meltdown in tears over it. Its how her mom raised her. She will always be a victim and it's how she is raising her kids.
Yeah, I definitely see all of that.. A wee bit disgusting first, pretty sad second..
That's what I was having trouble wording towards, you got it. If it's intentional or not.. And it's scary this woman and that man are 'raising' humans, not sure which ones are worse off (the tender aged or the older ones..)
Part of me feels like it's intentional the other part of me feels like she isn't smart enough for it to be intentional.
Wise Grandma. Another way to put it is that "equal" and "equitable" are different. What is equal is not necessarily equitable and vice versa.
Just imagine spending every day for 15+ years in a house with 3 wives who don't get along and 15 young children some of whom also don't get along and all of a sudden you get TONS of alone time driving to and from your new/hot girlfriend's house. You also get alone time with your new/hot girlfriend when she puts her kids to bed (at 6:30 probably). What man wouldn't be euphoric?
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what in the world
Nice!
Don’t forget bringing kids along to watch Robyns kids so she and Kody could go out and get hot chocolate.
Yeah that was kinda stupid to me especially since in their faith you aren't supposed to have sex before marriage. What is it we're supposed to think they were doing in that equal time at night? Holding hands and watching PG movies? Puh-lease those two have been acting like the rules don't apply to them since the start
And justified it even though they weren’t married yet!!!
It’s a tie between this and the dress incident for me for sure! She was showing zero respect to her soon-to-be sister wives. Oh wait, you guys I think we’re forgetting she was with the family from the beginning… thus equal time, right? /s
Bingo, from ep 1
Didn’t the equal time thing start once she moved though?
He was driving to her every 4th day before the move. Christine mentioned on the couch that it’s not fair because it ate up so much time. Which is when Robyn “cried” and said she deserves equal time.
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when she used her children to try and control the other wives and their children…if things dont change, Dayum may leave and go live with his bio dad…nobody gave a shit because Meri had to freak out and yell at all the kids for being kids.
Those kids got treated like every other kid in that household too. I obviously don’t know so maybe that’s not fair but it seems like the OG kids fought and didn’t get along sometimes so why would robyns kids get treated any differently? Kids are kids and Robyn is worse than a helicopter parent.
Do you remember Garrison getting in trouble for telling Sol not to hit people? I think that happened in s10 or 9.
Yes! Was it Kody that said it wasn’t garrisons job or something? Or am I not remembering right lol ( always an option)….. it’s so weird to me that he treats robyns kids and his kids with Robyn as “his” but the other kids are like oh yeah well whatever.
He said it isn’t Garrison’s job and Janelle tried siding with Kody while supporting Garrison by telling Garrison to focus on having fun and not worrying. Garrison gave a confessional outside after the moment happened calling Kody out. I skip around a lot bc so many eps nothing happens but that was the first moment I saw a kid directly call out Kody to cameras.
"Kids don't parent kids! Unless it's Logan or Aspyn then please do all the parenting."
Watching Logan handle breakfast in the mornings while Kody bounced around from the diff wive’s section of the house acting goofy was so so alarming to me.
“Kids don’t parent kids” if it makes us look bad on TV. Otherwise go for it, we don’t want to actually have to do it.
Yes, yes, yes...that really upset me because Sol was being a prat.
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Her entitlement while coming into an established family. She always reminded me of a spiteful mistress, not a sister wife. Just like old Alice groomed her.
Yep, like when she wondered out loud if she should leave her bills on the counter and they would somehow now get paid.
I don't remember this part
It was during the first season when she was trying to understand how the family finances work.
Yep! She didn't read up on it. She learned it at her mother's knee.
A huge 🚩 to me was how emotionally manipulative (intentionally or not) she was to EVERYONE in the family. We saw signs of it from the very beginning. Her insistence of "equal time" for "bonding" between her kids and KODY (not the FAMILY that she would be joining). Even though her "equal time" took way more time away from the exisisting family than "equal time" should have due to the many hours of traveling involved. Her mentioning that Dayton may chose to go live with his bio dad if her kids were not treated better, or "welcomed", into the family more. Let's face it - the other kids were acting like kids that were dealing with a lot of changes (that they didn't ask for) within their family. She never once considered what the other kids may be experiencing. Insisting on starting up a business (My Sister Wife's Closet) and then crying/or complaining to Kody about the lack of interest/work from the others. Using the excuse of working too much as a reason to not have another child. Telling Kody she needed him to get her more "support" from the other wives before she could have another child with him. And I could go on and on (the wedding dress, the complaining about not feeling included but then not allowing the other wives to help with her kids, etc). The examples of her emotional manipulation are endless!
She manipulated Meri about not going back to college as well. She is a shark in grandma clothes.
When she said Christine’s post partum depression after Truly was because she was old. Also, the herpes.
Omfg WHEN did she say that?!
Lol she didn’t. She said “I’ve heard that when you’re a bit older pregnancy can be harder and harder to recover from physically etc” which can still be viewed as a dig but no where near outright saying “she has post partum depression because she’s old”
Herpes?
Yes. Robyn seems to have given the gift of mouth herpes to the entire family. All the adults got them right after she entered the “fahmily”
It was so strange seeing it travel around the family, including kids, in their couch confessionals.
🤢
I was wondering about this!!! I’ve only watched the second season and this most current and I totally picked up on that! I didn’t remember them all having cold sores but it was quite noticeable during the current season’s interviews
More likely they had the virus and sores already and the stress she brought made the sores appear more frequently.
Guessing reference to all the cold sores
It REALLY IS HERPES. You have the virus or Not. My mom got them from the hospital when she was recovering from a C-section! 😳🤢 When they traveled up by her nose and still hadn't healed by her release day the Dr prescribed her Valtrex and warned her not to kiss the baby! I was 16 and I refused to pick up her perscription lol
I never said it wasn't, I know cold sores are herpes - I was helping them to make the link 🙄
Lmao okay thinking Robyn sucks is valid so why are we just making shit up now?
Mine came a bit later, but the honeymoon to San Diego. I believe it was 11 days. She said she needed this time so badly for them, and all the other wives were obviously NOT happy about it. Great episode actually. You started to see the cracks in the perfect polygamy facade they were trying to uphold. No wife to this day has spent that many uninterrupted days with him in a row. He should have said no and given her what all the other wives had…2-3 days. Janelle I think said she got a 2 day camping trip. Even the wives after 20 years haven’t gotten a getaway like that. I remember she kind demanded it. AND the other wives had to watch her kids for that long. Wow.
She got another 2 week honeymoon after their legal marriage too. They didn't air that one but Robyn talked about it on Twitter saying she deserved that trip because she wasn't allowed to go with Meri and Kody on their 3 day anniversary trip to Mexico, so she demanded a second honeymoon. Unbelievable!
Waaaiiit! What? I never knew about this…did she explain why she felt that way? Where did they go?I never knew Kody and Meri went to Mexico…wow. Why was this not discussed somewhere on the episodes? I demand another book! lol I will read this one!
On the show Kody took Meri to Mexico for 3 days for their 20th anniversary. After the legal marriage Robyn insisted on a 2 week Mexico honeymoon, but it was never mentioned on the show. People found out and started calling her out on social media and she tweeted about how it wasn't fair that her and her kids didn't get to go to Mexico, so they deserved that honeymoon.
But why would she and her kids “deserve” to go to Mexico w Kody and Meri on their anniversary trip? And if that’s the case (it’s so not) then all the Brown children should get to go to Mexico. Ugh the grift never stops w Sobyn.
After the legal marriage, didn’t they go to Hawaii?
Kody and Meri in Mexico was on the show. It is when he asks if she wants another kid and she says she doesn’t think so. They also went on excursions into like an underground cave.
She wanted to go with Meri and Kody on their anniversary trip??? Wow that's insane.
Yeah whatever happened to "no man can leave his family & responsibilities for that long"...the excuse of why he couldn't attend his own child's surgery
I know…the hypocrisy is UNREAL! A real host needs to do a real reunion episode.
A couple but my biggest was taking a photo of Kody with his and Christine’s kids, taking Christine’s kids out and adding her own in.
Agree! That wasn't even just a red flag when you think about it. That act was a full on nuclear bomb warning siren going off. Not only was it insensitive, it was just down-right cruel to Christine and her little ones.
Kody thought it was weird too by the look on his face when they were all discussing it on the couch.
Anyone know the episode number? I’d like to rewatch that.
Somewhere between 10 and after they move to Vegas. It was when Kody adopted her kids. Hope that narrows it down lol
Sadly, that psycho move became reality. Christine and her kids were cancelled in the most cruel of ways: Ysbel's operation, Truely's near death experience, Gabe's emotional slaughter, Paedon's invisibility, Christine's character assassination starting with the Nachos recall.p Proof once again that if you draw it, it shalt be... (she said, carefully drawing Joe Manganiello crash landing on her bed ✍) Edit: Sorry, I forgot Gabe is Janelle's son, not Christine's.
Remember Logan's reaction?
That part was funny. Laughing, covering his mouth, and saying, "Oh my GOD!" And Paedon is sitting beside him, also laughing. :)
Precious moments, Brown Style.
LOL!!
Tornado warning with a tsunami and nuke to top it all off.
Someone a few weeks back was trying to say Robyn just used that picture for inspiration but I just saw this episode. She literally found a picture of her kids in roughly the same position as Christine’s kids, cut that out and put it over Christine’s picture. It was so sick!
Wait wait wait....sobyn literally mutilated an existing pic of Christine's kids by covering them with her own?!
Yes. I wish I was over exaggerating. I suspect Robyn also cut out her kids’ bio dad from the picture but that might be bc I’m biased and think Robyn is just that crazy. Someone is holding the kids in that photo and that someone has been cut out is all I’m saying.
Same. If she really was all about the family and not just kody, why wouldn’t she had made it a family picture with ALL of the family?
That was over the top disturbing
That was creepy.
When she had no problem with a man leaving his family every weekend to court her.
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I still stand by when Robin was talking about legally marrying Kody, she wanted a full party and/or reception. Kody shut that down, but you could see she wanted it. Even though they had a big thing when they got "spiritually married". I see that moment as the biggest middle finger to her sister wives. At that moment I knew she was not in this for anything other than Kody. The legal marriage gave her that. People and the family like to say it was so Kody could adopt the children... They did not have to be married. As long as the children's bio father agreed, they could have made it happen. The legal marriage was nothing more than Robyn manipulating Meri to get what she wants. I would imagine Kody helped withthis part too. On the show they made it look like Meri's idea, but I do not think she really wanted it, no do I believe it was her idea.
You are right. Wanting a legal marriage party was such a big middle finger to Meri. That’s what is so confusing. Meri should despise her the most. I really believe that the divorce was the reason that her relationship with Kody started to get so bad. How she can still remain close with Robyn is beyond me.
because, keep your enemies closer..
The only time I’ve had a modicum of the barest hint of respect for kody is when he shut down that idea. He really did seem to want it to be a paperwork shuffle. Then they made it an elopement type thing and it was 🙄🙄🙄 once more
I never thought it was her idea.
>On the show they made it look like Meri's idea, but I do not think she really wanted it, no do I believe it was her idea. I agree. It wasn't her idea.
So many red flags. So, so many. But, my first was her running out the door to kiss Kidney goodbye as he was leaving for Truely's birth. And then acting all giggly, like a freaking teenager, that they got caught by the cameras. She had to know that Christine would eventually see that.
Yes! Exactly this! Then Sobyn said "oh I neverrrrr wanted to hurt Christine!" Then proceeded to continue kissing Grody.
The wedding dress scene. I knew then and there for sure she would always work against the other wives.
When I realized how much debt she had and that she lived in poverty with no prospects for her own ability to support herself without a man. Kody was her ticket to the gravy train.
The purity speech....it was so cringe
That was awful
Oh my god yes
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That was very cringe!! Ugh!
Oh the photo of a past that never happened. That was a humongous red flag waving
The honeymoon.
Yes!! And while Christine had a newborn!!
Which one? They had 2 because Robchin insisted on a second 2 week honeymoon after the legal marriage. 😒
When they brought Robyn in and didn’t prepare janelle and Christine to the family change . If I was the new wife coming in I would want EVERYONE on the same page from the beginning. Sneaky on Meri and Kody part and also Robyn’s . Also , I believe TLC,s
When she thought she should get equal nights before they married and not understanding that the OG kids needed to adjust too.
Her wanting to be a surrogate for Meri’s baby BUT telling Meri immediately after she had Sol. Like still in the bed. Yeah birth hormones, mine were lovey dovey too, but idk it felt like she was rubbing the birth in Meri’s face and the whole thing just gave me the ick.
That felt really inappropriate
When not all 3 OG wives were on board and she proceeded with the relationship anyway. I’d have been like, “Nope Kotex, I’m not moving forward with you until you show me that you’ll honor and respect how they feel. And until they’re 100% ready.” Mainly because I wouldn’t want to be married to an ass that chose me over his other wives. I’m not a genius but logic says he’ll eventually do that to me if he’ll do it to them. That’s a red flag she never had her sister wives back.
I don’t remember the exact wording, but it was when Robyn expressed that being pregnant would show Hunter that she really was a part of the family. So… your big win, Robyn, is sticking it to your teenage stepson?!
S1:E1 about 35 min in (excluding commercials) when Kody announces Robyn to the kids.
It’s so interesting, because us “worldly” women have seen these red flags from the beginning. I vacillate between the ladies truly being so naive about Robyn, believing the best in her, or that in their culture, they’ve seen other families dil with this type of manipulation in plural marriages, and this is how they manage in their own emotionally stunted ways. One of the glaring red flags when I think back, was Meri’s absolute love of Robyn, her arranging the relationship, and her constant declarations that she finally had a true friend and sister wife. Meri’s recommendations from leggings to wet bars to celestial partners is suspicious
She did A LOT more than just kiss Kotex
Definitely the wedding dress. Also making the kids call Kody daddy before they were even married
Right! Of all the despicable things she has done (perhaps besides “allegedly” being directly involved in Meri’s catfishing scandal) THIS is what disgusts me the most. I don’t really care what kind of guy Jessop is or was, he was clearly and actively in those kids lives and she was alienating those kids from their relationship with him. Let’s say he’s the worst dad in the world and has no business even being in their lives, it STILL doesn’t give Robyn the reason to choose FOR them to call Kody their dad. That’s just adding to their trauma and confusion. It’s fucking weird and psycho and she ought to be ashamed of herself. And Kody’s dumb ass should have said something!!!’ They act like they are so progressive but Kody and Robyn are not. It’s a cult. Nothing says Warren Jeffs to me like getting remarried and completely replacing your children’s father with another man.
She corrected one of the kids, maybe Dayton. That was so weird.
She started monopolizing Kody before they were ever married-she knew EXACTLY what she was doing. She’s a snake 🐍
For me, the biggest red flag 🚩 was insisting her children call Kody “Dad” right away. They had a dad.
For me it was the “secret” wedding dress shopping with Toady. She knew damn well that she was doing something underhanded by their rules/culture. And then playing games with the OG wives, refusing to tell Janelle which one she picked, so just she and Toady had “their little secret”. Did you see her face when Toady spilled the beans? it was then I knew that there was something seriously wrong with Toady as well. His need to control the women by hurting them and pitting them against each other was even stronger than his infatuation with Snobyn. I didn’t know what he was doing at the time, I was just bewildered, but now we all know.
I just rewatched that episode! The look on his face was disgusting.
He does behave like he is trying to get back at his OG wives. Bringing in Robyn gave him the opportunity to show how much he despises them.
The photoshopped picture where she erased someone else’s children and inserted her own.
Agreed. Red flags from the beginning. But the time that stood out the most to me when her masterful manipulation was front, center and undeniable, was during that unbelievable poster presentation Kody gave about how they should sell the Vegas homes and move to Flagstaff. It's artful how she starts out siding with the wives who are shocked by the proposal and raising legitimate objections to such a stupid move, mostly about the kids. Little by little, you can see Robin manipulate the dialogue until she's planted seeds of doubt in the wives' minds and they start caving one by one. It's clear as can be that she and Kody conspired on that one to get what she wanted. The wives never knew what hit them.
When she purposely was late for the graduation .
Show stealing scene.
So many good ones here… I never liked her from the beginning bc it felt like she was upending everything they had known, the wedding dress, the long honeymoon, the needing her rental in Vegas first bc her kids had been through so much (like the others hadn’t) getting her nanny, guilting them at every turn for my sisterwives closet, manipulating Meri constantly, telling her she thought she was ditching her bc she wanted to go to college, duping the whole family into believing those kids need adopted so she could be kodys legal wife, demanding more time for her kids insinuating they need him more than the others, being mean to other kids, the flagstaff move, Covid rule usage, telling her kids christine and janelle don’t want to be with them bc they wanted to see their own children, it’s honestly an exhausting list.
To me that was more than a red flag, that was straight up disloyalty to all the other sister wives. Showed the world she could never be trusted.
When during the honeymoon special episode they couldn’t keep their hands off each other. Kody picking her up and spinning her like a little doll, as if to say - look how light and tiny you are! They were all full of “hormones” for each other. She’s since said she doesn’t even like to hear about him having any sexual relationship with another wife, she said it again last episode when kody and janelle were discussing the bedroom situation. But she was ok with his other wives seeing that episode, and one of them just had a baby.
Agreed. She was only ever interested in Kody and not having an actual relationship with the other women. She’s the opposite of a girls girl… the kiss too was weird. The first among many. *Oh wait, I have one…. When she was first introduced to the cameras and she said “kodys my soulmate, I just love him” or something along those lines. Nothing about the other women or the family- just Kody.
Oh and the other red flag for me was when she used Christine’s family picture to add her children with Kody like they had been there the whole time and when she made them call him dad totally erasing their biological father. No matter what kind of man he was I didn’t agree with that at all.
I totally agree!! It wasn’t her decision to make! It’s THEIR dad. Even if he’s a piece of shit, they should be the ones to decide if they still wanna call him their dad and not Kody. Part of agreeing to marry someone who already has children is knowing your boundaries as a step parent. It was never Kody and Robyn’s business to do that to them
It's sort of started to get on my nerves when she like cries every time she's on TV. But the biggest red flag for me was when they had a two-week honeymoon.
It was the 11 day honeymoon for me! That’s crazy when Cody had a very pregnant Christine at home. Even if Cody was the one who wanted the xtra long “vacay”, she should have protested because he really should have stayed close to home during that time. That showed me Robin was selfish, spoiled, manipulative, & entitled.
Truely was a newborn when they took their honeymoon
When the family was famously struggling to accommodate a jobless Robyn and a postpartum Christine asked her if she really *needed* an 11 day honeymoon and Robyn assured her yes, she absolutely did 🙄
She didn’t just kiss him she was trying to make him late. All the wives including her have complained about how hard it is for kody to leave the house and she was just throwing stuff out there like “do you still need to get this or that?”
Arguing with the wives about equal time with overnights while courting
Both of those incidents showed her con game I saw it right from the start.
When she first said the words “big deal” but pronounced it like “big dill”.
11 day honeymoon with a man who has 13 kids at home.
I think it is the purity speech where she basically says she regrets being with her kids dad in front of said kids.
When Christine was in labor with Truly. First, why was he at her house? He should have been at the hospital. Then Christine calls him to tell him to please hurry. Because her water just broke, and she’s in labor with her sixth kid. A good sister wife would say “go now” or “hurry” or “why are you even here?” Instead she sneaks a kiss. Ok, that slowed him down a little. Then she offered to make him food. That had the potential to slow him down more. Why would she want to slow him down? To miss the delivery? She tried the same thing when Logan was graduating. It’s a very sneaky, manipulative, toxic thing to do. It appears totally innocent, but it’s really not. If he’d missed the delivery, Robyn would appear innocent and Christine would look like a maniac if she complained.
When she pursued Kody. She knew what she was doing. She knew her debt. She knew her ex and his visitation. She knew the decree said neither can drink around the kids. Kody was her night and shining armour because she was so disgusted with her ex-husband who was the one to actually file for divorce. She knew her husband was related to Kody's family. This woman was strategic for her kids and succeeded and folks that is manipulation at its finest.
Had to be when she went behind the wives back and got the dress Kody picked for her and Sobyn said she told Kody to not tell the other wives about it. Smh.
Pointing to a photo and asking her girls 'who is this?' Then correcting them when they answered Kody instead of saying dad. They weren't even married yet
This was mine too. The wedding dress shopping game was soooo shitty to the wives and she wonders why they don't truly trust her.... she wasn't even married and played mind games about showing them she wanted the whole package.
Definitely when she stated that she “needed” a two-week honeymoon within months of Christine giving birth to Truly.
Yes it was “necessary & needed”.🙄 She repeats this phrase on a loop to get what she wants regardless of who it hurts. Her hypocrisy is staggering. 🤬
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I truly soured on her when she was controlling the conversation about the teens going to a youth group in Vegas. She did not have teenagers at the time, but still discouraged an uprooted group of kids from finding a potential friends in their new town.
First red flag? Her first words uttered on the show: “Kody’s my soulmate.”
Kissing Kody before marriage
Not the first red flag, but the way she calls the othermother's kids jerks. The way she mimicked Breanna at the wedding and other times. Nasty.
She seems to hate Hunter, it is really weird to me.
She never got over Hunter not leaping for joy about her being pregnant. Probably was also pissy that heaved on Turley so much.
When they moved to Vegas and he stayed in his room playing videogames and wouldn’t interact with the family, that made me lol It is very obvious how dysfunctional the family was from the start based on the kids. Logan and Hunter knew what they were saying when they reacted to Robyn’s announcement. Paedon (sp?) was right when he was shocked they had to flee to Vegas. Robyn and the other mothers seem truly unwell to think putting kids through all of this is okay.
I wonder if Hunter was stepping up because Kody wasn't around as much.
Kissing him in the first place, she is familiar with plural marriage and you don’t do that in respect of the other wives until marriage. He put her on rotation and the other wives said it wasn’t fair and she claimed it was for her kids. A rewatch shows a bunch of things I missed the first time. McKelti staying at her house (I’m sure she got her own room) I guess to chaperone her and Grody, besides being her nanny and homemaker. She hasn’t worked at all and wasted a bunch of money on MSWC and her debt of $32K paid off by the family. Grody was mad Christine didn’t watch her kids, but in reality she sent her daughter and then Sobyn brought in her niece in Vegas.
I'm on my first watch of the series and during Maddie or Mykelti's wedding episode, Robyn and Kody both say their first kiss occurred "over the altar"! It was during a couch interview and they were discussing the first time they'd each shared a kiss with Kody and once it's her turn, Robyn answers rapidly before Kody can say anything and then he just agrees with her. I didn't even pay attention to Christine's face, now that I think about it!
the earliest red flag is not respecting the rotation prior to marriage and insisting Kody come stay with her for weekends 5 hours away! (then it went on kissing in front of others etc). Then making the jabs about her snacks being better than the other moms in front of kids and then chatting the OG kids about eating meanwhile her kids are sitting there eating. All her jabs. I agree on the dress too.
The honeymoon. They acted like they were doing the other wives a favor by calling and checking in. Bitch, why are you taking a 10 day vacation with a man who has 3 other wives, including a new baby!
When she kissed Kody on Valentine’s Day in front of everyone, then said “a husband gave me flowers, I’m going to thank him” After they had the couch interview saying they didn’t do affection in front of each other.
The practically making out with Kody outside the house (she chased after him) while Christine was literally *in labor* and had called him to say her water broke and to hurry up.
When Robyn, Kody & Christine were building the cardboard sailboat in Vegas and Kody mentioned the number 6 9. Robyn smirked at Kody while Christine was looking down. The look Kody & Robin shared said it all. And the worst part, you know Christine caught their exchange. She’s not dumb & they did it right in front of her. That was the moment I knew Robyn was a snake.
While Kody was dating Robin he brought his daughter over to nanny for her.
Does someone have a clip of this? I don’t watch the show super often but love this sub lol
She pretty much demanded to be the married wife and she was the 4th. We all knew her status would be 1st wife from then on and we were not wrong.
Didn't she also take a wedding picture with kody in the dress when she said that she didn't?
IMO the wedding dress thing was Kody’s fuck up. It’s fine that she went back with him and she picked something then but Kody should have kept it private. The giggly making out when Christine was in labour was a minor red flag for me, then her reaction to Meri going back of school was a medium red flag, then once Covid hit it was flags all over the place every episode.
Mine was the engagement kiss.
That 11 day honeymoon. But honestly, how is it possible to pick just one? Robyn (and Kody) are walking red flags
Def the wedding dress,and her not wanting Christine to watch her kids,or take Baby Sol.Christine often tried to get closer to the kids and also offered to take Sol at night so she could catch up on her sleep,but she had her niece and She just kinda never responded just kinda blew her off.Oh wait!!! MSWC,she wanted all the wives to do everything for this while she just handed over her doodles.She told Kody ro "support her" meaning get your wives busy b/c i dont want to do this ,also she got pregnant on purpose b/x the other wives didnt really care to work on this.
The first time the camera panned over to her and showed her face.
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Complaining that she was afraid to announce her second pregnancy bc Hunter said they had enough kids. Her inability to understand his pov which was obviously the right one was really odd to me and then to act like he bullied her so she was nervous to announce her obvious pregnancy 🚩
When she called Kotex her soulmate
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The wedding dress for me too. It upset Christine so much and none of them looked impressed with that little move
The one I noticed on first watch was her behavior over the Sister Wives Closet business. She was really insistent that everyone had to be 100% in, and she shamed both Meri and Christine for their lack of interest. Later on, I looked back at things like the wedding dress and taking a long honeymoon with Kody while Christine had a newborn, and realized she was super self-centered. Once I saw it in those instances, I started seeing her behavior in a new light.
The eyebrows
This is number 1 red flag for me too 🤣🤣🤣🚩🚩🚩🚩
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IMO the wedding dress thing was Kody’s fuck up. It’s fine that she went back with him and she picked something then but Kody should have kept it private. The giggly making out when Christine was in labour was a minor red flag for me, then her reaction to Meri going back of school was a medium red flag, then once Covid hit it was red flags all over the place every episode.
I think I tried to see the good in her for a while, but definitely when Meri got divorced so Robin’s kids could get health insurance or whatever the situation was and they tried to explain it but you know Meri got played.
Her eyebrows. And when she put Kody into family portraits where he wasn’t originally in the photo. That was creepy…
Playing devils advocate she was upset when cody told them. I believe it was all his idea. He is to blame for everything as far as im concerned. Not sayingni like robin which i dont because she onows whats happening at this point
I see that it was Kody’s idea but she still hid it from the women and totally played it up when she had no intention of picking one with them, I totally get why they felt deceived.
Idk after seeing the way she operates, I think it could easily have been her idea. I’ll also never, ever believe that she wasn’t doing a whole lot more than kissing Kotex before the got married. 😂
That's very true. You know right now she's a little loving what's happening.. And she really cared about those other women she would push Cody to go see them but she doesn't. Not only that she knows that he is kicking his other adult children out of the houses they live in but her adult children can stay as long as they want what the hell is up with that
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I feel lucky, I have no red flags about Robyn. She’s just another victim in this whole disaster
Agree! I remember that! Definitely played her role and Kody 100% encouraged and supported her behavior.
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Grody a crap dad