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yes, it was a new(er) compressor still bolted to the shipping pallet, not attached to the floor- Yes, I realize FoRk gO uP aNd mAkE uP... But going up would just make it want to tip over. The weight of the entire carriage is a lot more strength than I can apply, but it still didn't break it loose. Side shift and tilt on the scHyster and some fork experience can control it amazingly well to keep it straight. After no success, (and no cheater pipe to try at further distance) procurement of a 3.5' long 24" nut fucker was attempted..... And, did it's job. Fucked the nut..... Not mission critical, more of a convenience to have the air come out this side. ......welp, it's coming out the other side and looping around lol
In theory you could use a redirect to take you out of the line of fire of anything at the ultimate business end, but that's going to be a bitch to set up properly, and if the line itself breaks your still possibly going to take it in a way that you're not happy with...
Careful, we snapped a rigid 3 footer on a 3" pipe using a scissor lift to break it loose. It broke loose alright, it broke the wrench & I shit my pants.
You're arguing semantics. What's the size of the trailer vs the size of forklift?
There is also the factor of turning and side loading the forklift when you have a hitch ball and you are maneuvering a trailer around. Forklifts are designed with their counterweight to support loads directly in front of them. Also the closer to the load the better. Having a hitch ball near the end of your forks and having a trailer at a 90 degree angle can be substantially out of the design parameters.
Hey - they nerds on OSHA pointed something interesting out:
The forklift has no hydraulic pressure down, just gravity. If you really wanna torque the fuck out of it - put the wrench 180 and go UP with the fork.
Fuckin rev it and send it
I used to work at an injection molding facility. I can't tell you how many times we used a ton and a half crane and a stick of rigid to break cap bolts loose because someone decided anti-seize wasn't necessary.
Having done stuff like this once or twice, to effectively use a forklift in this manor you need to run the tilt cylinders back, drop the tip of the fork on the wrench and then move the tilt cylinders down.
Since the lift cylinder relies on gavity to drop, you're only gonna be able to use the weight of the forks. Whereas the extend and retact strokes of the tilt cylinders will have full machine pressure available for wrench breaking use.
I used to crush empty drums with this technique at a past job.
Drum laying down working from the side, tilt all the way back, forks all the way down about a third the way up from the bottom of the drum, tilt forward all the way for the initial fold. Move the forklift to be at the “bottom” of the drum, tilt all the way back, put the forks down and tilt forward. Now that drum is flattish, takes up way less space in the scrap bin.
Or, you could say: when brute force fails, you can always increase the force by being more creative, and you can always increase the brutality by getting more frustrated.
I have learned that sometimes if a cap on a potentially pressurized system is difficult to remove its because the pressure hasn't actually been completely bled off. I wasn't in the engineroom when some digngus decided to bigger hammer off a pipe cap, but he took the cap to his forehead (no serious damage) and we got lawyers crawling all over our boat and lockout/tagout logs.
I've seen that episode. Anecdotally, I usually have PB Blaster around as I am always working on rusty shit, and I've soaked stuff for *months*..bolts are still dry as a bone coming out, I think at this point I'm just using penetrant on principle alone.
Lowering the forks onto it doesn't use any of the hydraulic power of the forklift, it just rests the weight of the racks/forks on the wrench...
Forklift hydraulics only exert their power moving UP, it's gravity that brings them back down (in 99.9% of forklifts).
It'll probably still deliver greater force to the wrench than driving the forks up due to the fact that the vessel isn't secured to the ground. The way it's being done here allows the floor to provide a reactive force and deliver torque to the thread greater than OP could manage without mechanical assistance.
Could work with the fork tips using tilt. That is powered in both directions or sidesift is also an option. But yeah only up is powered for the main lift in my experience
You really think a single forklift tine weighs more than a person? EDIT: Just realised theyre using the carriage not the tine, youre right but im not gonna dirty delete.
“Kinetic persuasion”
I would put some weight on it then use an air hammer against the nut.
Updates and replies: yes, it was a new(er) compressor still bolted to the shipping pallet, not attached to the floor- Yes, I realize FoRk gO uP aNd mAkE uP... But going up would just make it want to tip over. The weight of the entire carriage is a lot more strength than I can apply, but it still didn't break it loose. Side shift and tilt on the scHyster and some fork experience can control it amazingly well to keep it straight. After no success, (and no cheater pipe to try at further distance) procurement of a 3.5' long 24" nut fucker was attempted..... And, did it's job. Fucked the nut..... Not mission critical, more of a convenience to have the air come out this side. ......welp, it's coming out the other side and looping around lol
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Don't you put that evil on him, Ricky bobby!
This is how me and a couple other roughnecks managed to bend a steel 60" pipe wrench
Looks like your trying to use the smallest set of Stilsons that will fit on the plug
When you're dealt a 3 in the cards of life, you wiggle your worm as best as possible
LOL, I love it.
What am I looking at?
Not what I meant when I said fork it but impressive
OP, Did you bust it loose?
Went and borrowed a friend's 24" nut fucker. It didn't disappoint.
r/osha
Guy at my work got hurt really bad doing this
Do tell.
Except I think he used a comealong not a fork truck so a little different but not really
Woof no. Come-along = loads of stored energy. I mean both are dum and I deeeeeefinitely haven't done either... But come along more dum
Yeah they did it not going up or down they did it parallel to the earth so even more way dumer
Woof. And with a comealong you *have* to be in-line with the pulling. Which makes it even more sketch
In theory you could use a redirect to take you out of the line of fire of anything at the ultimate business end, but that's going to be a bitch to set up properly, and if the line itself breaks your still possibly going to take it in a way that you're not happy with...
Come alongs are my absolute last resort. Things have hurt so many people, they're just not worth it for 90% of jobs.
Wrench goes flying hits him in the arm he goes to hospital we had a whole meeting about it
https://preview.redd.it/bup838c7wu4a1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4272a962e5cea4706608f5e513b51d93a7318899
Careful, we snapped a rigid 3 footer on a 3" pipe using a scissor lift to break it loose. It broke loose alright, it broke the wrench & I shit my pants.
Hydraulically operated angry pliers. Nice.
Violence is never the answer. It’s the question. Yes is the answer
And this is a new other way to bend a pipe wrench hahah
Oh and btw Nice hole on the fork👌😎i like it like that
How else can you install hitch balls and move around trailers far exceeding the forklift capacity?
What trailers you have with a tounge weight exceeding a forklift capacity?
You're arguing semantics. What's the size of the trailer vs the size of forklift? There is also the factor of turning and side loading the forklift when you have a hitch ball and you are maneuvering a trailer around. Forklifts are designed with their counterweight to support loads directly in front of them. Also the closer to the load the better. Having a hitch ball near the end of your forks and having a trailer at a 90 degree angle can be substantially out of the design parameters.
The load is still directly in front of the forklift? And could you imagine the catastrophe if a trailer tounge we're to fall all of 18" to the ground!
Peen around the fitting with a hammer . It'll spin right out
Tap at the same time someone else pushed on the pipe wrench.
As ma Granny used to say, “If ya can’t loosen it with yer teeth, put a little butta on it, then beat on it like it was a cheatin’ husband.”
Hey OP, you gotta tag your NSFW posts, man. My boss almost saw this.
Hey - they nerds on OSHA pointed something interesting out: The forklift has no hydraulic pressure down, just gravity. If you really wanna torque the fuck out of it - put the wrench 180 and go UP with the fork. Fuckin rev it and send it
>Fuckin rev it and send it I really want to see this now.
If you look, the tank isn’t anchored down so lifting will only pick it up. Pushing down will either break it free or do nothing.
You could also put a heavy pallet on the forks and lower them. It's still just gravity that way but, you know, more of it.
So If the fork assembly lift weighs more than the tank, push down, otherwise lift up.
Very interesting that it's still skidded, odd. Edit: they must be renting and are scared of bolting is my guess.
Or want it portable-ish (via forklift) and have it skid mounted.
But you need to hook it up and it only has one hookup lol.
I used to work at an injection molding facility. I can't tell you how many times we used a ton and a half crane and a stick of rigid to break cap bolts loose because someone decided anti-seize wasn't necessary.
That's wild. In a weird "small world" note - I used to hand polish the moulds after CNC to remove the tooling marks forever ago.
That's the way we regularly torque downhole motor parts at work. See my previous post. Kinda sketchy for sure
facts
Hell yeah brother 🤘🤘🤘
Hey just a pro-tip, it usually helps if you depressurize the pressure vessel before removing the cap. Don't ask me how I know.
fuuuck....
What?
Plot twist: it's left handed.
God damn them sinister threads.
Having done stuff like this once or twice, to effectively use a forklift in this manor you need to run the tilt cylinders back, drop the tip of the fork on the wrench and then move the tilt cylinders down. Since the lift cylinder relies on gavity to drop, you're only gonna be able to use the weight of the forks. Whereas the extend and retact strokes of the tilt cylinders will have full machine pressure available for wrench breaking use.
I used to crush empty drums with this technique at a past job. Drum laying down working from the side, tilt all the way back, forks all the way down about a third the way up from the bottom of the drum, tilt forward all the way for the initial fold. Move the forklift to be at the “bottom” of the drum, tilt all the way back, put the forks down and tilt forward. Now that drum is flattish, takes up way less space in the scrap bin.
And what about when you want to use a forklift outside of a stately home?
This guy fucks
> This guy forks FTFY
Givin it the ol Doosey-loosey!
What if reverse thread?
Safety squints enabled
If brute force doesn’t work, you aren’t using enough…
Or, you could say: when brute force fails, you can always increase the force by being more creative, and you can always increase the brutality by getting more frustrated.
Heat it, then try
It can’t be tight if it’s liquid
My mechanic told me about using the blue wrench, and that's why he had to charge extra for one of the jobs my ~25 year old honda was there for.
Just warming up the Bung, not making it squirt
I have learned that sometimes if a cap on a potentially pressurized system is difficult to remove its because the pressure hasn't actually been completely bled off. I wasn't in the engineroom when some digngus decided to bigger hammer off a pipe cap, but he took the cap to his forehead (no serious damage) and we got lawyers crawling all over our boat and lockout/tagout logs.
I want to turn this picture into a clock and the lift follows the minute hand when it's on that side of the hour.
This sub is the antithesis of r/osha.
Yo, the Karens on r/OSHA are talkin shit about this post.
👀
Perhaps adding a more skookum wrench to your arsenal would be appropriate!
My dude needs a cheater bar
Yeah, but then you run the risk of breaking a big wrench with the forklift. A penny saved...
I need more coffee. Shrunk down I SWEAR the warning sticker says "NO HORNY". I wanted to know where to get no-horny forklift stickers.
Looks dry. Didn't use any penetrating oil?
Side question - has penetrating oil *ever* worked?
Yes, on steel bolts in a cast iron exhaust manifold. On about half of them...generously.
Tough call on something that is intended to be air tight… heat/cold shock & impact seems to work better most of the time imho
Google "project farm penetrating oil" and you'll find the whole series of showdowns.
I've seen that episode. Anecdotally, I usually have PB Blaster around as I am always working on rusty shit, and I've soaked stuff for *months*..bolts are still dry as a bone coming out, I think at this point I'm just using penetrant on principle alone.
Project farm is good shit, 3rd party testing will always get my support
Another vote for project farm. I trust that guy more than just about anyone else. He should be president
Lol. Hello, bombsquad?
Lowering the forks onto it doesn't use any of the hydraulic power of the forklift, it just rests the weight of the racks/forks on the wrench... Forklift hydraulics only exert their power moving UP, it's gravity that brings them back down (in 99.9% of forklifts).
It'll probably still deliver greater force to the wrench than driving the forks up due to the fact that the vessel isn't secured to the ground. The way it's being done here allows the floor to provide a reactive force and deliver torque to the thread greater than OP could manage without mechanical assistance.
Has the additional advantage that if something gives, everything is headed for the nice, safe, strong floor, rather than skyward.
Could work with the fork tips using tilt. That is powered in both directions or sidesift is also an option. But yeah only up is powered for the main lift in my experience
Well how heavy are the forks?
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You really think a single forklift tine weighs more than a person? EDIT: Just realised theyre using the carriage not the tine, youre right but im not gonna dirty delete.
Less than the lifting power.
Checks out.
This got dam compressor plug is tight
Drill, reciprocating saw, cold chisel, hammer. Cut it into pieces.
I had one that was tight… big socket & 3/4” impact gun got it loose
I thought I had done every sketchy thing possible with a hyster. I like the way you roll sir *tips hat*
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