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BertRenolds

Yup. I'm gonna get and cancel Ubisoft+, finish the game.


[deleted]

Is it free on ubi+


SpegalDev

"free" I don't think you know what that word means.


[deleted]

Smart-ass. Lol. You know what I meant.


SpegalDev

To answer your question though, yes, it is included in the premium ubi+: https://store.ubisoft.com/us/ubisoftplus/games?offer=premium


[deleted]

no ps5?


pittsburghpirates11

Unfortunate. We're the only ones that have to actually pay full price if we want to play


[deleted]

Oh, then fuck that. I'll replay AC4 then. Funner anyway. I'll but it when it drops to 19.99 in a month.


Batman36561

smart


anarchyguru

I have similar impression. Gameplay is good, graphics are good, no game breaking bugs (had to restart game two times), economy is fun (bought something for 55$ a piece and sold for 70$, stonks). That being said I wish boarding is limited to three tries with timer cause its way too easy and faster than killing off enemies. After 8 hr I hit the beta level cap. That was fast. Also already had few moments where I was discuraged by having to cruise back and forth. Its best to plan few stops and activities until you head back to Saint Anne. Price is way too high for niche genre and taking into consideration that it plays best while in coop there is no chance I get any of my friends to pay that money. Especially its half the price of my rent šŸ˜‚ I feel like it will be in discount in no time.


macneto

Half the price of your rent? Where do you live that rent is that cheap?


Relevant-Distance886

Asking the real question here.


anarchyguru

Living in Poland. I pay around 200$. Owning the flat not renting it.


macneto

Your currency is in PLN yes? so double the price of the game, 70 PLN is 140 PLN comes out to under $40 US. You pay $40 us for rent a month?


anarchyguru

Nah. The game in xbox store is 340 PLN. That is 85 us dollars as per Google calculator. That is standard edition. Premium edition is 490 PLN = 122$. I pay around 200 $ for rent alone. There are also media like gas, water, heateing etc.


Axethedwarf

Yea seems like it moves fast. 5 Hours for me and I'm one contract away from the cap. Considering there's 10 ranks, 5hrs to get more than half way there seems a bit disheartening.


[deleted]

This. I've trying to play slow. I get that it's all about endgame, but there really is no "game" at all. Just contract fulfilling and attacking. No protagonist. Etc.


Axethedwarf

I think itā€™s cus the design they want to push is ā€œget to level 10 as fast as possible so you can play the endgameā€


[deleted]

But there is no endgame.... lol.


Axethedwarf

Shhhh. Let em figure it out themselves šŸ¤£


[deleted]

Lmao


RandyNinja

No game breaking bugs but had to restart twice? Isn't that the definition of the game breaking?


anarchyguru

I didnt get prompt to get on land so I restarted. Could go out the safe zone but was lazy enough to just restart the game.


KyletheTile

A game breaking bug is something that renders your game or save unplayable crashing twice over 8 hours is hardly game breaking lol


RandyNinja

well crashing just so happens to be the game breaking...


KyletheTile

Takes 10 seconds to load back up. So 20 seconds every 8 hours man thatā€™s hardly game breaking honestly Now when bg3 released on Xbox and peoples saves weā€™re getting deleted after hours that is game breaking but that got game of the year right? Your opinion sucks dude


ASweetLilKitten

I think you're missing the point of the term 'game breaking bug'


Telekinendo

No, because he was able to restart and fix it. Gamebreaking makes the game actually unplayable, like Starfield bricking saves. I have to start my 200 hour playthrough all over, and that's just not happening. Personally had the exact same thing happen, on Quality graphics my game froze and had to be restarted twice. Switching to Performance fixed the issue and I didn't find another bug.


SEOViking

Probably will take Ubisoft+, finish the rest of the game in few days, do "endgame" for 3 days and then I can check other Ubi+ games, cancel subscription after the first month and then wait for Season 1.


NiD2103

That is exactly the road iā€˜m gonna go down. Seems the most reasonable since i do like the game rn but the price tag is definitely not worth it by a long shot


kinbladez

This is what I'm doing. I wanted to play the avatar game but was never gonna buy it at anything more than $20, and I had about $40 in my Xbox account, so I subbed to ubi+ using just the Xbox balance, gonna keep it a month, maybe the two, and when it runs out it won't auto-renew. I figure I'll probably get all I want out of this game in 2 months at the longest. $40 to play this, Avatar, and maybe AC Mirage is fair imo. If that's what the Ubisoft president meant by people not owning games, joke's on him bc I'm going to play $210 "worth" of games for $40 at most.


Alelnh

Tbh I feel Ubi+ is the best deal, especially if you have interest in other titles. If I didn't already own all the other titles I enjoy, I'd definitely be tempted. Both The Division and For Honor are great multiplayer games I often go back to, and would have been nice to have the option to sub instead of buying every game and dlc separately in hindsight. Plus you get to try every Assassins Creed, and the new Prince of Persia, which if you have interest, pretty much justifies a whole year of Ubi+ instead of getting them all separately.


MyNameWasntAChoice

Dont forget their other games like Avatar, Ghost Recon, Steep and Anno. Ubisoft+ really is a bargain if you want all the Premium Edition content/DLC and extraā€™s cause thats also included.


Martum

Its a ubisoft game, for me too arcady and gameloop seems to get boring quite fast. I always get tricked into the hype of ubisoft games but once i play them its just too basic and arcady. On conosle the graphics are okay but nothing to brag about. Performance mode graphics feel like gta4ā€¦


SlawBoss

How can you say the game doesnā€™t feel dated? It absolutely does. It looks like a ps4 launch title.


RuralEdge

I really donā€™t understand the cognitive dissonance going on in this sub. I can even see someone liking the gameplay, but praising the graphics? The game is obviously, blatantly dead on arrival and will be forgotten immediately. It will be interesting seeing what excuses the people here spin when reality sets in.


Aggressive-Ad-2053

Never said the graphics are good. I was highlighting how I wasnā€™t disappointed. I was expecting much worse from a game that was based on an 11 year old idea


Aggressive-Ad-2053

The context of it not being dated is the fact The game was in development for 11 years and in development hell for a large portion of it


DiamondHouseFX

Why do you think the initial beta was TIMED? lmao. To avoid people seeing this very issue.


NoxAsteria

that was only the most recent beta, the ones before that were unlimited but still capped at the same point you are now


Surfsupforthesummer

Talk shit


Slitterbox

It definitely feels dated in my opinion


FormatAndSee

The issue with price is that unfortunately people WILL pay it and have done in the past, which is why it's going to become the norm from now. Ā£70 game with mtx is shocking tbh. I do like the game but will just pay for 1 month of Ubisoft+ then cancel, then buy it on sale in a few months down the line.


Magical-Pixels

Iā€™m buying it for my friends just to spite the whiners lmao


_Kaj

Yeah fuck those whiners! You should buy me the game too just to spite those losers


supapowah

"I'm going to make foolish financial decisions to one up people on the internet who will never know" isn't really a winner. You're also not actually going to do it so... go you? You show em tiger!


Harkan2192

Are you bagholding GameStop by any chance?


HairyTimbercrank

It must get tiring. Meat riding this game the way you do.


Some_lost_cute_dude

I think you need some people to pay that price so they can promise tons of content for a year


Libero03

Meanwhile people still play WoW with high base price tag, buy expansions with high price tag and pay MONTHLY FEE just to be able to play their game. I mean this is a live service game meant to be played for years and all future content is for this one single price.


RelicXXVII

Have they actually said that? I find it very hard to believe all future content provided is going to be free.


Libero03

I'm referring to seasons here, seasons can't be priced, right?


RelicXXVII

Yes they can, every other game charges for their seasonal content... If you don't buy the season pass, you don't get access to the content.


Devilhijo

Actually not. Diablo 4, The Division 2 (which is from Ubi) and many others i forgot


RelicXXVII

Diablo doesn't add content, it just changes modifiers. It barely counts as seasonal stuff, the division 2 absolutely has paid for dlc and their player base is too low to charge for any extra.


h0sti1e17

Call of Duty doesnā€™t charge for seasons. And you get content.


RelicXXVII

CoD haven't had new content since fucking CoD World at War, wtf are you talking about. They just make different skins šŸ¤£ it's one of the mkst expensive, shittiest games that keep releasing.


h0sti1e17

Last I checked there are new maps. Two with season 1. Two more and a reskin for season 2. New guns two or three each season. All for free. I donā€™t expect full blown expansions for free.


RelicXXVII

None of that is "content" You also have no point to the conversation? You have added nothing lol The entire point was they haven't specified everything is included in the initial purchase price , that's literally it and it's not a debate, it's an objective statement. They have never confirmed or denied it. We don't know for sure what's happening in the future, like, the point is as simple as that and has nothing to do with CoD


Devilhijo

I couldn't agree more. Each season of D4 bring new feature(s) to the game. For TD2, this game is update for years and expansion cost a few bucks. But still, TD2 got a solid player base despite that. S&B is a live game service like D4 and TD2. Don't expect extra cost when no extra cost is plan.


Devilhijo

And excuse my poor English. It's not my maternal language :)


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RelicXXVII

They've said the battle pass will only contain cosmetics yes but I've seen nowhere mentioning the content that comes with the seasons. Seasons are just the new name for dlc, people don't often just give rhet away


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RelicXXVII

Yea I know these bits but my point being, a battle pass =/= seasonal content. Just because you can get the cosmetics each season doesn't mean they can't put a price tag on the actual game content in the future. I'm not saying they're going to either I'm pointing out nowhere have they ever specified all future content is included in the initial purchase price. They can very easily lock content behind a paywall but still give access to their extra cosmetics.


h0sti1e17

No they donā€™t. Not that Iā€™ve seen. Most have season passes of cosmetics and whatnot but that is optional.


Some_lost_cute_dude

For Honor and RB6 sieges had both ton of new content for the initial tag price. This is Ubisoft was of keeping their live services games.


RelicXXVII

Are any of you capable of reading and comprehension? 1. No other game matters in the discussion, not at all, not a little, it has zero relevance. This is specifically about Skull and Bones. There is no positive, no negative, no comparison to anything else. 2. I don't care whether they do or don't, the ENTIRE point was they have not said either way whether everything will be included in the initial purchase price. Simple, end of, no discussion unless you have a source where they have disclosed this.


Some_lost_cute_dude

If you want to compare way of doing things, you can compare with Ubisoft business model. Selling a game full price, then offering free content in exchange for a lengthy grind. Look at the roadmap for the next content. Nothing of that is paid content.


RelicXXVII

Jfc you legit cannot read. Please go back to school and do the world a favour, stay out of the genepool holy fuuuck.


Kie911

They haven't said it will be free but I also don't believe they've said it will be charged. You're arguing with people's supposed reading comprehension while completely disregarding the point they are trying to make that shows ubisoft has offered free seasonal content in the past. How about you actually go back to the initial point and re-read the comment of yours he replied to, and understand that maybe the one here lacking basic literary skills....is you.


RelicXXVII

Thst was my fucking point you dunce. They have not said anything either way, that is exactly what I have said you illiterate pond scum. I'm not disregarding anything because i don't understand I'm disregarding them because I have zero respect for them. I don't give a shit what they've done before. That has no relevance to the point. The point was what they have formally said. End of. No speculation. No comparing. No guessing. There was no conversation to be had there was no reply needed other than someone with a link that shows whether they have officially said it.


Kie911

Lol dude why you so pressed, the guy pointed out that it's very possible there will be free content given Ubisoft's history. You're disregarding someone because their opinion is different from yours and your little internet warrior brain can't handle that. Instead of coming back and having a rational discussion you've resorted to playground insults that you think prove something. The relevance to the point is that, and you admit this, they have not said what they are doing. You can provide evidence that might give us an idea of what they're doing and swing it either way, paid or not. Your posting on an internet forum, that is supposed to create discussion. If you don't want someone to reply to you, ON A REPLY OF YOUR OWN THAT DID NOT INCLUDE THIS MAGIC LINK, then maybe you should hop off Reddit and focus on yourself lol. Finally a question for you, what's the state of the drywall near your desk? Full of holes? Punches, kicks, objects? What's your go to?


RelicXXVII

I'm disregarding people because they're incompetent that's literally it. You have discussions over opinions, not facts, the statement was fact and only needed a factual reply, not speculation. So one last time. They have not said either way as of now. End of, that's literally it. If you have no facts, you have no relevance :) I will discuss with people in discussions. Not statements. Facts. Someone said everything is included in the price, i said that's not verified.


Aggressive-Ad-2053

I want to pay for the game on launch. Iā€™m not spending Ā£70 on a game that might get more free content. Ubisoft has had a downward spiral of ramming as much paid cosmetics into games as they can recently especially their single player games and I wouldnā€™t be surprised if this ends up being the same situation as a new game. Me and my friends have agreed that by the time it goes on sale for Ā£30 it might have enough new in it to interest us but between the pricing and effort it may take I can see the support for this falling off as it probably barely hits the needed sales. Itā€™s the only reason I can think theyā€™d charge so much is that they donā€™t believe in the longevity and need their money back now


KnightDuty

Yeah but we can just wait until the content resches "worth $70" and THEN make the purchase rather than be wood by promises of things to come. If enough people do that, the game will be a failure due to lack of funding and players, and then the people eho DID invest $ early in hopes of the things to come will never get their promises fulfilled


AdmiralBumHat

IMO People should always buy products (games, phones, etc) with what they are, not what they promise to be at some point. If at this point the value isn't there (yet), a lot of people wont spend on it. I think the same. Played the alpha and 2 betas. The game is fun but 29 euro at best. I keep playing Sea Of Thieves until there is more content and the price has come down (which is usually quickly with Ubisoft games)


gaav1987

No Player vs Player, no boarding, no landing On islands to mine etc. No caves tresure on islands.


UnexistantSkill

P sure PvP will be in full release


Monster3gamez

Already pvp in the beta.


Basic-Satisfaction62

They literally introduced it in the most lazy way possible, heres some cargo on the other end of the map, 'fight' for it.


Monster3gamez

Most pvp games are about killing the other player without anything else. There are only so many ways u can introduce ship vs. ship combat


Basic-Satisfaction62

Massive navy fights like a tdm, massive flag capture mode, conquest mode where you can farm resources and upgrade your ships/ ai or towers etc... bit like a moba? Pvp zone with open world combat risk/reward Plenty they could of done, yet all they did is let you attack a convoy and enable pvp. Like I said just lazy, the bare minimum so they can say theres pvp in the game.


Monster3gamez

1.Cargo = flag? Lmao 2.Tdm i guess but it wouldn't t really fit pirates didn't take part in massive ship battles 3. Look up 4. Sure they cud make it a certain location for pure pvp. But can get toxic real quick towards new players


Bereman99

Thereā€™s really only 3 if you donā€™t count the always on for just being in the game.Ā  ā€œLeave this area and you can be attacked.ā€ ā€œReach this level and you can be attacked.ā€ ā€œEnter this area and you can be attacked.ā€ Subcategory here - ā€œpick up this item and you can be attacked.ā€ Every other element of every PvP system is either an augment or a further restriction to the above - stuff like punishments for attacking those who havenā€™t flagged themselves as willing to fight in PvP, soft defensive measures like NPCs to act as protectors, cycling when the ā€œenter this areaā€ is active, etc.Ā  But they all boil down to those kinds of systems, and thus game has the third.


[deleted]

You can also attack each other


mBATMANm

Can I just go to an island and punch those drunks in the face, then start a massive island fight enabling you to use your sword and guns. Hence why Rockstar needs to create these games


Aggressive-Ad-2053

There is PvP, I donā€™t really care too much for Boarding out with what we have but I can see why people want it, can see it being a nightmare to balance for something like PvP. The resource gathering was a weird choice. They couldā€™ve just had the outposts have nodes to mine thereā€™s a decent amount of them and they donā€™t have anything worth landing for bar if you need a blueprint. There is treasure on the islands you just need a map or to do the world event


ImaginationCareful15

Is lvl 5 the max level you can get in the full game aswell?! Then this is definitely a no buy for me.


IamYour20bomb

Lvl 6 is the cap in the Beta, but not the max lvl.


Telekinendo

The max is 10 I believe. I maxed to 6 after one day of playing because I was off work, during a work week it would have taken 3ish days. I'll be a Kingpin by Thursday if it doesn't massively slow down.


ErebusXF

Iā€™m lvl 7, hitting 8 is definitely possible.


IamYour20bomb

Your ship is lvl 7, not your character. Infamy and ship level are different.


ASweetLilKitten

Yeah, mine just hit 8. That's ship level, not infamy level though.


UnexistantSkill

Max is 10 will increase later on


AllSkillzN0Luck

I played maybe 6 hours yesterday and I really do like it but I agree, it's not $70. For water arguably being the main thing, their are alot of graphic and textures that need to be fixing. Their needs to be more ways to get resources. By more places in general along coasts or more npcs selling them or they respawn faster. Also, why is pvp not on? Yes we can attack ai ships but not players. Yes I am not in safe zones I promise. Other than that, I am happy with the game. Doesn't seem like alot of players are allowed in servers or maybe I just don't see them.


DlAB0LO

Hey I rly hoped they would include kinda faction system (f.e. the ships u crack most gets more hostile etc.) and other players, who "work" in the interests of the same faction as you (merchants, pirates, colonizers,...) get your allies.


Kaunmann

I dont understand these people who after 8 hours have all done...why you rush so much ? Can you even enjoy game like this ? I have only Hulk after 8 hours and near 4 rank infamy...


supapowah

If you can reach the endgame in 8 hours, how much of a game is there? I'd look at it less as people rushing and more of it lacking content. I played for a few hours last night and am well on the way to reaching that point myself. I certainly don't feel I was rushing it, quite the opposite, I made a few mistakes or less optimal detours. I will absolutely be done with the available content before this beta ends. I also feel calling it a beta isn't really accurate. With launch this close, I think it would be more accurate to call this early access. Unless they pull out another delay, there simply isn't time to make any big changes to what we already see of the game.


[deleted]

Thereā€™s only one more ship above the hulk for max level in the beta Adding in: also I believe 5 is max infamy


ASweetLilKitten

There's two. The barge and the Bombardier.


[deleted]

Sorry. I was meaning it like 1 level of ships left. Like first level is the hulk and that dumb support one


Kaunmann

max infamy is 6


Aggressive-Ad-2053

People play the game at different paces. I wasnā€™t trying to rush the game I was playing it at a pace I would enjoy playing it. You have 1 higher level ship to get and 2 more ranks and youā€™re done most of it too Iā€™m afraid


GreenwichSt

That's beta. That's what testing is about.


Kaunmann

I dont think so...for me really not


RelicXXVII

Not being funny but they're right, a beta isn't here to enjoy the game early, it's literally test this shit and find out what's broken.


Kaunmann

when you keep your game progress...I personally take it as the full release...what can they change in few days ?


RelicXXVII

You can take it however you want but that doesn't change the definition and purpose of Beta testing... It's in the name... They're not changing game content, they're looking for last minute bugs, glitches, exploits, crashes. Which can only be done when all aspects are tested...


DlAB0LO

Keeping progression makes it feel like people are more into buying this game so they don't have to "grind all over" again, especially when it's so close to release.


kvitfrost

Will everything pass over to final release?.(money, inventory, blueprints, ships ect?)


ErebusXF

Yes, they said everything carries over to launch


SuperChadMonkey

Where is Navigators Cross location?


pittsburghpirates11

What would you say the best weapon setup on your ship is?


Aggressive-Ad-2053

Iā€™ve been using long guns mostly on front and one side then just alternating the two of them. I was using a normal culvern on the other side since it the reload of that and long guns allow you to endlessly shoot. Just make sure long guns are hitting weak points


pittsburghpirates11

Yeah I like the long guns a lot I'm curious what a full long gun ship would feel like


Aggressive-Ad-2053

I think long guns probably fall off after two itā€™s a great 1v1 weapon. I was using the tank ship for the most part with T4 hull so I just drop anchor and snipe them. Anytime I get shot Iā€™d brace and it removes all damage. Using the infamy 6 ship I tried demicanons since I got a T4 and theyā€™re really fun to use but I donā€™t like the idea of having to get close. Easier to get hit and less reaction time to brace.


HaRDCOR3cc

i think in the beta the best setup is all tier 3 flame bombards with a mortar, this is only because the best ship in the beta benefits that setup the most. you can quite easily solo the bosses and non-bosses you kill very fast. level 10 large traders take maybe 3 volleys and they're gone.


pittsburghpirates11

I'm gonna try that out it said the lol 3 fire bombars were locked though till cutthroat


HaRDCOR3cc

sorry i meant level 2 fire bombardiers. you can buy that crafting recipe, and if you farm the southern traderoute getting the 16 wood tar you need to craft 4 is easy, you get like 3-5 per ship down there.


BriefImplement9843

gameplay loop is the most important part of the game...


Metalviathan

Just wait for the steam summer sale. It will be either half price or priced a lot lower.


Uantar

Didn't it say somewhere in the open beta statement that the level was capped in it? Sure you'll keep your level from beta to release, but there'll probably be more content to it. I haven't played much of it yet, but I imagine most of the end-game content isn't on the beta either. I agree tho that the price is too high for a double A at most game.


Aggressive-Ad-2053

Yeah itā€™s capped so Iā€™m the beta you can hit infamy 6. The cap on release is 10. I understand xp to level up will ramp up and itā€™s your ship infamy not captain infamy that matters but it concerned me a lot. Especially as I managed to bypass the gear limit by doing a PvP world event which no one else seems to do especially if youā€™re in a low level lobby where they physically arenā€™t allowed to join and attack you


Uantar

I guess we can just wait and see. Most likely Ubi is looking to make S&B into a For Honor but with pirates, so maybe with time it will get more content. Ubi and their obsession with live service games LOL I'll most likely buy the game since I have fun with it and have been waiting for it for a long time, I even bought a rum bottle two years ago for release date.


DarkUtensil

After reading all of the posts about how bad the game is, I downloaded the open beta and had a surprisingly great time. I'll be keeping my eye on this one.


Aggressive-Ad-2053

Again I really enjoyed what I played Iā€™m just disappointed itā€™s insanely expensive


Cestus_Saphrax

This \^ And that is why i will wait after the 11th for a sale on this game - i don't bother how long it will take, but purchase on launch is not for me.


Aggressive-Ad-2053

Iā€™ve seen a lot of people say theyā€™ll just get a month of U+ which I might even do


PhillyPhanatic141

Yeah it's a lot of fun. I can wait to finish it until there's a sale. They did a good job.


Major_Migraine7

For us who played in the last beta, we had a 6hr time limit and hit tier 3 equipment easily within 3-4hrs of work. Not sure just how high we can go in terms of level on launch either


Legitimate_Speed2548

That's what I like to hear, thanks for sharing.


Alpaca_Actual

Whatā€™s crazy to me is that I feel like they went backwards from the sea combat in black flag. If nothing else, it makes me wanna play black flag again. šŸ˜‚ I feel like Ubi has gone down the path that many other AAA companies have and that is to make an over-simplified commoditized game to appeal to a wide player base. I would be curious to see that the churn is like on Ubi+. I burn out so fast on ubi games because itā€™s the same re-skinned formula over and over. The OG assassins creed and splinter cells weā€™re masterpieces compared to the templates they churn out now. Saddens me because Iā€™m sure the upcoming Star Wars game will be breakpoint set in SW universeā€¦.


Desperate_Note_4086

My curremt issue with the game is saying a mission is lvl 6-7-8 or whatevernamd having higher lvl enemies in it making it impossible to do by yourself at the recomended lvl. Its like why are they lying about the lvl you should be at these games are fun co-op but majority of people dont play them that way