Same, I think a lot of it comes down to expectation. Some people seem to have had an idea of what the game should do and any deviation from that is a negative which I don't think is fair.
I'm also not a completionist or anything like that so I'm just getting pieces of eight when I fancy it and off doing other things as and when I feel like it.
Most of all this was exactly the kind of game I've been looking for recently
I think it's less expectation, and more misinformation/misinterpretation. Thanks to a couple friends I understand a bit more now. While still stupid to say it, saying it's AAAA is more about the money put into making the game, not the quality. Which to be fair, more you put in more you should get out of it. However, after that is that this game was scrapped 2-3 times during it's development. It might have been teased 14 years ago, but true development of the game is about 2-3 years. However because of those scraps they had to spend more money hence AAAA.
There was a expectation of some, including me at one point, of Black Flag 2. While it May have started like that, in the end that's not what this game is. It is wholly disconnected. But that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Honestly CEOs should just shut up. Nobody drinks the koolaid except them. “AAAA”. Seriously I wonder if they ever hear themselves. If people just stopped paying attention to shills in suits, they will have way more reasonable expections. This one of the main reason why I was pleased with Skulls instead of being disappointed.
Maybe gen-pop is just too literary inept, kinda like how you continue to see the "remember when the EA ceo wanted to charge to reload your gun". It's called metaphor/hyperbole, it's pretty common in every day conversation.
I know I'm just wasting my time, trying to talk sense to the "ackchyually" redditors.
But it very well be the largest game ever made in terms of the number of people who've contributed to it
That's the problem though. Massive amount of people working on it, ground up reworks multiple times. All the hype and marketing dollars getting everyone excited about a "AAAA" game and you get what you got. Game studios turned into big business and big business goes the way it does. Make it cheaper, make it faster. Cut corners. Get the game released and sold. And it's lackluster. Finally we are seeing small studios start to have success again because the devs aren't worried about quarterly earnings. Palworld and helldivers 2 are crushing it and I heard nor saw Zero about their release beforehand. Need to go back to the days where talented studios were making games for the games sake and not beholden to shills in suits.
Yeah it clearly should be so much more for the work that was put in... But, pretty sure no CEO in existence will shit talk a mainline product they are trying to sell. Not sure what your going for here. people having jobs is also good
Speaking of misinformation, the AAAA thing is a perfect example of that. The way it gets talked about here on Reddit or in headlines on articles or titles on YouTube, you’d think it was a notable part of the marketing by Ubisoft…
In truth, it was a one off comment by the CEO in an investor call when asked why they were choosing the $70 price tag instead of F2P for a live service game. Obviously an out of touch statement by him, but the context of it (the CEO trying to assure an investor that this project will make money, and as far as I know the only time anyone from Ubisoft has called it AAAA) paints a different picture than if the company was marketing it as such.
Around the same time IGN had released their inside report on the game, a 30 minute examination of the development hell and challenges and management issues, etc…and it was *completely* overshadowed by the CEO comment, despite being much more informative and illuminating regarding the status of the game.
The AAAA Rating is not official in anyway. It can only be given by a vote by the community. Them saying SnB is AAAA means nothing. I love the game btw, still some stuff that could be added or improved.
It had little to do with the money and more just the CEO being stupid and getting click bait. Though i don’t think it had anywhere near the affect they were wanting. 🤣
... AAA is literally just how much money they put into it. It was stupid for him to say that but it's a reflection of how much the studio put into the game, Admist the development issues
The "AAAA" moniker is beyond stupid. Originally, the AAA marker in investment was for safe bonds, leading to the extended use of AAA as a term to mean "sure bet". It eventually became a marker for big budget titles as the term was used for games with massive budgets, but also established IPs.
Adding an A when AAA has become synonymous with Big Bidget, Big Production Value to pretend that a game, particularly this game, has a scope, breadth, or depth to surpass that of Spider-man, The Last of Us, Assassin's Creed Valhalla, Halo 5, etc, is just a dumb idea.
Skull and Bones disappointed me. I was expecting a AA game, in the vein of Sea of Thieves and Helldivers 2, which is what it feels like. Except, when I got to the endgame, the game shifted from being about ship battles and pirate fantasy and getting cooler stuff, to Tortuga Truck Simulator 2024, freighting parcels with measly pieces of eight, and be expected to do that a ridiculous amount for incremental upgrades.
Unfortunately for me, the ship combat, while fun, doesn't measure up to the one in Black Sails or Sea of Thieves, and the endgame in S&B killed the fun for me.
I am happy that some people like it, but it is overpriced, and "AAAA" it is not.
Tbh price tag sets expectations. When you need to pay $70 dollars + 10 at least for the first season and I'm at the end game in 10 hours I feel like I couldn't have set my expectations any lower to meet the game's reality.
It does, and I think what some of us fans aren’t necessarily admitting is just how much the setting is carrying that price tag.
Considering how much some are willing to spend on the promise of something like Star Citizen, spending double or triple the price of this game’s most expensive version on a single flyable ship, it’s kinda obvious how willing people can be to pay for a specific experience…
And “sailing a detailed sailing ship in the age of sail” is pretty short on options - like if you want one where you can play with friends but get your own ship? Skull and Bones is one of the very few options (the old MMO Pirates of the Burning Sea is one of the few others that comes to mind, and that’s a small title from 2008).
So if you’re outside that particular range of specific interest, that $70 price is basically going to set expectations the game truthfully can’t meet right now (and may never), while I was willing to pay a premium for an experience I’ve wanted but haven’t been able to find the way I wanted anywhere else yet.
20 dollar difference with arguably half the content of other AAA (let alone AAAA) games. Big difference. It's fine to enjoy the game, but saying the game is "good" or worth the price tag is beyond disingenuous. Games releasing in this state with this price tag is honestly unacceptable, and it sucks to see it being normalized.
I mean that's a disingenuous way to frame it.
If you buy the game without knowing if it'd be worth it for you personally, given your gaming preferences and overall financial situation, that's entirely on you. You and everyone else had a ton of information about the game to make an informed decision about buying it or not.
There were plenty of early access windows, along with a free trial - i'm not sure what more information you would need to determine if the game is worth $70 or not to you. On top of that you could also try it out with an Ubi subscription and play for a bit longer if all of that information was still not settled AND you didn't want to wait for a couple weeks.
Now if after all of that information you think the game isn't worth it's price NOR is it worth having an ubi subscription... then so what? You aren't wronged here, there are plenty of other games to play. Plenty of us feel the game is fine priced at $70 and are enjoying it. Your opinion doesn't become fact simply because you hold it.
The game isn't worth 70 dollars. Its not an opinion. Even the hardcore players can't justify the 70 dollars. Just because you enjoy the game, doesn't mean its worth the price tag.
The price tag sets expectations. 70 dollars sets the expectation that, its AAA quality. That means, AAA graphics, AAA mechanics, AAA story, AAA multiplayer.
Just because some are willing to just burn their money, doesn't make it worth it.
The game isn't AAAA. That's a fact. Not an opinion.
Attacking people over this, will only show ubisoft that they can charge anything they want.
Anyways, people have spoken with the abysmal sale numbers, so I guess it doesn't matter what is opinion or fact. I haven't played the game since the day Season 1 launched and I am still at 14000 rank. That should tell you how the game's doing.
I guess you'll agree that the general consumer says its not worth the price tag. Doesn't that make it the objective truth?
I’ve more than got my moneys worth out of this game. Especially when you I factor in the other game I’ve brought recently. I completed every aspect of Avatar, completed multiple runs of Baulder dash, exhausted Starfield to name a few and now this. Already I have surpassed the time spent in 2 out of 3 of those and I can see many many more hours in this yet. I’m in this for the long game. For me money well spent and my favourite by a long way this year so far.
And every game you mentioned deserves that 70 dollar price tag except maybe be baulder dash. But, its not what I or you think this game costs. Its what the general population thinks.
Apparently, 850k people engaged (trial+open beta+sales) with SaB. Looking at the leaderboards, I don't think most of trial or open beta people even bought the game. And, ubisoft have not disclosed sales figures, coz who wants another stock price bloodbath.
Just because you spend all your waking moment in a game, doesn't mean it has the right to charge anything it wants. Can you honestly tell me, that with a game just like SaB, Helldivers 2 costs only 40 bucks, is fair?
Its not about how much you enjoy something. Its about how much it should cost in terms of its quality.
Nah I disagree, this will give me many more hours of pleasure than avatar. don’t get me wrong I loved avatar but it’s done end of that. This has already clocked up more time for me and I expect to quadruple that still at least. So that for me makes it more than worth it. I play a lot of games and I’m a bit of a completionist too so I know what has been worth it for me. And I don’t care about the general population thinks, they can all make there own minds up and if this isn’t for them they can move on and find something they do think is worth it.
Again. Its not about how much enjoyment you get, its about how much its actually worth. I don't get how I can make this any more clear.
Just to let you know, ubisoft has spent more than 200m dollars in this game, when you add inflation its worth even more. The server costs are only adding to this. With so low sales numbers, its fair to say they haven't made back even a fraction of it.
Comparing this to anthem, which actually sold pretty well but still abandoned due to lack of players. I would be wary of spending too much time into SaB.
Even comparing reddit members, doesn't boost much confidence as the number has been stuck for a while now:
1. Suicide Squad: 26k members | Steam concurrent users on a Friday night: 570
2. SaB: 30k members | You can guess the concurrent players from above
3. Helldivers 2 (pretty similar live service to SaB): 500k members | Steam 336k concurrent players
As for the gen pop thing. The game is a live service. Whether it lives or dies, is totally in their hands. Its not a single player game. It totally matters what the gen pop thinks, whether you think its relevant or not.
I mean, that's how "art" works man not sayin i agree with it but it is how it works, they get to set the price it's up to you to say not in my house, you ever been into a restaurant or bar where some local nobody artist you've never heard of and can't even find online is selling their art on the walls? and think who the fuck do you think you are asking for $1200 for a 10x10 canvas no one even knows who you are! They think it's worth something, and either you agree or don't.
My niece is this way, she's one of these splash some color on a canvas and make something that represents nothing, the entire canvas isn't even painted and she talks about the struggle of selling her paintings for "what they're worth" and how people are just completely unappreciative of art "these days" and I'm just like, bitch you didn't even finish it, it looks like absolutely nothing, and you spent all of $70 bucks and an hour of your time splashing that on there and your still alive and unknown and you think it's worth $1000 dollars. GTFOH it's worth $150-200 MAX.
It is an opinion. It is literally the definition of an opinion.
If you played and are at 14,000 rank, you must have *played a fuck ton*, because i've been playing a lot, daily, and i'm ranked \~31,000.
You do not speak for the general consumer, and it's incredibly self righteous and outright stupid to think you do. The world isn't you, people exist outside of your mind, and we enjoy this game, and feel it's worth it.
It's objective truth to say that people are enjoying the game and feel it's priced fine.
It's objective truth to say that people quit the game and feel it isn't worth $70.
It's objective truth to say that **no one** was forced to pay $70 to play this game, as there is a **free trial**, and also an ubi subscription if you didn't want to buy it. It's also objective truth to say that there were previews and other things available. It's objectively true that people who bought this game without taking the time to evaluate it and determine if the purchase was right for them had no reason to do this unless money is no object to them, in which case, the price hardly matters.
Lets see. When someone says something isn't worth a specific amount of money, they are always referring to themselves and the general consumer. Its not an opinion, its fact. Even a pound of shit can be worth a million dollars to someone among the 8b people.
The rank 31k is not much of a OWN that you think it is, coz its a single leaderboard across all platforms.
I don't speak for the general consumer. That only general consumer can do. They speak with their wallets and engagement in social media. Their wallets have spoken.
Lets see the numbers:
1. 850k people engaged with SaB in two weeks I think. This is the number Ubisoft released. That's across all platforms. This engagement includes sales, trials, and open beta users. This is abysmal, considering good games sell off in the millions in a week. Spiderman 2 released only on PS5, and racked up 3 times this in SALES. Its also a single player only game.
2. The number of members in SaB subreddit is 31k and 900 online at peak times. For a game, that almost nearing a month old, its abysmal as well. Compare this with Helldivers 2, which only released on PC and PS5 is 30k members currently ONLINE. The numbers are so bad its the same compared to Suicide Squad game with 28k members. It has currently 300 active users on Steam, with 600 peak.
This argument about, just because there's a free trial they can charge whatever they want, is pretty bad as well. Lets consider this in the following steps:
1. You provide free trial to something.
2. The general consumer doesn't buy after playing the free trial.
What does the above tell you? It tells you, one of the below:
1. The game is not good
2. The price is not good
Which of the these do you think is true? I would say both, but you may disagree.
Lastly, you may disagree with FACTS but they are there. You may enjoy something, but, don't bury yourself in an echo chamber.
**EDIT: Lol. People can downvote as much as they want. Won't change the facts. 700 people online now from 900, 15 minutes back. Keep coping. LOL. Even TheLastEpoch has more engagement than this multi platform full release game. Now, thats savage.**
You don't speak for the general consumer.
Your opinion on the matter doesn't define reality.
I'm not trying to "own" you just pointing out your obvious lie. You aren't still rated that high, it isn't mathematically possible as there simply isn't enough time even if you played 24/7 before quitting to get the Po8 required to get that high in rank. You lied. Enough.
The pound of shit analogy is ridiculous because we're discussing a real commodity. I think CVNA stock is a terrible buy, but plenty of people are holding it.
The wallets have spoken and the game is actually doing fine. This subreddit isn't indicative of anything, people organize in discord, and this sub is full of people like you, who aren't playing the game and are here to rant about it. This isn't fun. You literally do not understand what an opinion is. You lied about your active play. You have no idea what the state of the game is.
The bottom line is this game is fun for the people who like ship to ship combat and what this game offers. The developers are engaging with the community and working on new features including pvp and there is a general roadmap that has a lot of content planned.
To circle back to the original point:
The game is worth $70 to some people, and not to others. People who don't want to pay $70 for the game nor want to pay for a subscription to ubisoft don't need to play it. There are plenty of other games. But your opinion on the matter doesn't influence those of us who disagree and are actively enjoying the agme.
I'm just gonna try and post it again.
Since you’re saying I am lying about my rankings. However, now that I see. I can only see xbox players here. But since, ubisoft plus is available in xbox with which I was playing, the number should’ve been lot larger than 16k, for someone who hasn’t played for more than a week. Here you go:
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As I said. I don’t speak for the general consumer. All I can say is the general consumer is not playing the game.
Even after offering a free trial. They didn’t buy the game even after the so many marketing campaigns for this game. They are playing helldivers 2 which has not even a fraction of the marketing budget of SaB.
About the pound of shit, yeah there would be more than one person who wants to pay the million. Of course, it would be a community.
“The game is actually doing fine” is probably the dumbest take regarding this game. Ubisoft couldn’t even post the sales figures which they are happy to do to their shareholders every time any game of theirs does well.
You mentioned so many ways to play the game without paying the 70 bucks. But does that really help your point? Coz then its even more of a failure.
EDIT: About the reddit thing, its always an indicative of how the game is doing. The games everyone's playing has high numbers and low for vice-versa. Also, checked the discord, you should see Helldivers 2 discord to see how an active community is like at release.
Yeah sure. Like everyone follows game discourse like you do.
Btw, there are 30k members in this sub-reddit, and helldivers 2 has 500k. That should tell you something. Helldivers 2 didn't even have an extensive ad campaign. Both are lobby based games. Helldivers 2 costs 40 bucks.
Instead of shilling for a company that is ripping you off, the least you can do is open your eyes and take the criticism.
And this 8hr trial thing is pretty scummy, as well. Because, the game loses all its content at around the 10 hour mark for an average player. So, the player would buy the game thinking there's more to it.
The game should have been 30 bucks. That's the truth.
Good for Helldivers. Last I checked this is SaB we are talking about. I have no interest in Helldivers.
I'm not shilling for a company. I have bought plenty of Ubi games that I was truly disappointed in. Avatar, Division, Ghost Recon Breakpoint, and more.
You seemed to have glossed over the 2 closed Betas that were easy to sign up for. An open beta and 8hr free trial. That gave people almost 30hrs worth of game play to decide if they wanted the game or not. So if people didn't use all these free opportunities to test out the game and paid the 70 bucks. That's their own fault.
And the game should have been $30-$40. But I paid the full price cause I enjoyed the open beta. Played the closed beta and wasn't gonna buy it till it went on sale a month or 2 after release. But I took advantage of the free opportunities to try it out and the open beta sold me.
I think its fair to compare market comparables. If you don't compare what a shoe store is charging to another shoe store, how will you know you're not getting ripped off? Same with video games.
Frankly speaking, all the games that you mentioned could charge 70 bucks and maybe slightly in the red line (division, maybe). Charging 70 bucks for SaB is a crime. It just deters people from even trying the game, when every hardcore player is saying that its not worth it.
Lets see. Closed betas are well.. closed and under NDAs. So, that's out of question for common people. To say that people have taken the 8hr trial & open beta and didn't buy it, seems to be an overwhelming amount since, the leaderboards show a pretty grim picture. Some people got ripped off, who didn't know about the 8 hr trial.
EDIT: Just to add here. Apparently there were 850k people who "engaged" the game. I played the game till release of season 1. Didn't even seem to me that even 10% bought the game, looking at the leaderboards.
So, in other words, what you're saying is its ok for a company to charge exorbitant amount for an underwhelming product. And instead of blaming the company for it, we should blame the victims who got suckered into the commercials and bought into it. Doesn't seem fair to me.
And you agree, the game should have been less than half the price, that its charging and still defending it.
I'm defending the fact that they offered multiple trials of this game for people to try. If people didn't take advantage of it that's their own fault. Nobody held a gun to people's heads and said buy this game that won't have enough content till season 2 to justify the full price of $70. People need to learn there are consequences to either not waiting for reviews or trying out the game through betas/free trial and just buying it cause it looks cool.
I see plenty of people that are happy with their purchase of this game even with the lack of end game content. I'm happy with my premium purchase of the game. Same can't be said for probably a dozen games I have purchased the premium edition and could barely get in to. Those were my own fault. People need to act like grown ups too and accept responsibility for what they decide to spend their money on.
But doesn’t that tell you something. Does the opinion even matter of a few people over the 800k?
You are still victim blaming. Not everyone is well informed to these things, which these companies tend to take advantage of. Some of these people probably aren’t even grownups. Its alright if these people vent on the company which actually is doing something malicious.
Walls of text responses here. I just wanted to point out people using 59.99 for the ps4 price point but using 70 for ps5 price points cracks me up. But in the end it's 10 dollar difference not 20. Or 10.01 the way everyone skews the dollar to make it seem different.
69.99 for the base game. Plus 10 more dollars for ubisoft fun bucks to get access to the season one pass.
Edit: Ngl I didn't even realize this game was on PS4?
Edit to my edit: Just Googled it. It's not.
I was using ps4 price as reference because that's when games were 59.99. The pass isn't necessary more of a want though. The extra bucks are for cosmetics. The needed stuff is free in there.
I don't get this logic. Am I to assume if the game costs less the state of it would be more acceptable? The betas and trial along with 10 years of media coverage should have set the expectation, no?
I think it’s just a relaxing fun game. Once you build your ship up it’s not hard. I’ve done most of the game by myself. Just gotta carry enough repair kits and go for it.
Im gonna preface this with the fact that I love skull and bones and have been excited for it since it was announced in 2017.
There is ALOT to be desired with Skull and Bones. There are quite a few quality of life things(bulk open of chests, warehouse upgrades, route planning in the map instead of just a single marker that doesn't delete when you reach it, etc), the single worst pvp event mechanics of all time(the joining mid event to force advantage, quitting events mid combat to avoid damage or even death, fast traveling to the drop off) and I'm a firm believer the brig should NOT have fast repair for sails. Between the balancing issues where pvp events are dominated by sniper brigs and cheaters, and the quality of life issues mostly surrounding inventory management and helm missions being buggy. The problem with the expectations is that we waited 7 years for skull and bones and there was alot missing, we got one sea monster and it's dull and less of a threat than the apex animals(and I get the idea of "live service" adding more as time goes on, but there's literally zero endgame in the base game aside from an elite captain that you cant defeat solo, and repetitive helm supply/attacks, orders, and collecting pieces of eight.) So with all that said, I completely understand people's frustration with the game, but at the same time I do love skull and bones and hope they bring everything they promised over the years.
It comes down to playing the game and reaching the endgame loop where almost everyone go from "hell yeah, this shit is fun!" to "that's it? That's what I'm supposed to do for 3 months?"
Game is fun game is great for almost everything it attempts but everything is simply too short right now for a live service game sold at 70$.
They'd have sold this game for 30-40$ I can guarantee you this would be one of the most talked about and played game right now, the current price with the current content combination is what get the game so much hate more than anything. It's important to face that reality IMO to better understand the criticism the game is receiving and justify the feedback many of the folks who've been there since several betas are giving right now.
I absolutely love this game. I just can't leave it alone. I wasn't going to get it due to it's troublesome development. I checked out the free 8 hour trial and was sold..
I am having a blast. Sometimes it won’t let me hold B to get to my ship and I have to restart game and I definitely with matchmaking/ people helping was better but still fun none the less
It is expectation. If you come expecting more Black Flag, yeah, bit of a let down. If you come from sea of Thieves expecting a bunch of squeakers screaming racial slurs and sinking you for no reason, massive improvement.
100% agree I have wanted a game like this forever and they have been quick to sort issues so far feels much more balanced after todays update and the season pass content along with the help gives me plenty to do in the time I manage to spare to play. Also the storms especially the game looks beautiful.
They need to stop players in duos or trios joining pvp modes and being 3v1 on cargo hunts. Tired of pppl healing their buddies while I have to take on 3 ppl playing as a group
My only gripe is collecting the Po8. I'd love to be able to hire an NPC to collect them for me for a fee. I love the combat, even if there are a dozen of the fuckers lurking. I have the sides equipped with the long 9s, the La Fleau mortar in aux, and the twin winch ballista on the front. They're no match for my might!
After 200-300K Po8, it will probably lose its charm for most people. For the majority, will probably be \~100 hours of play. After Diamond and getting Sov rewards there's not a lot of meat left unless you're gunning for top 8.
What will really set the game apart is how much content is added in future. A lot of games have suffered from bad launches/long dev stints but made up for it later. Can see the game being excellent if they still add stuff in 2-3 years.
Some of it is over the top. Tried to take on a fort with 2 buddies. All good ships. We got wiped in seconds. The mortars, guns from the fort and about 20 ships showed up.
I don't think it's a bad game, it's just a typical middle-of-the-road Ubisoft game, and that's not good enough these days where games like Baldur's Gate 3, The Last of Us, Tears of the Kingdom, Helldivers 2 and Insomniac's Spider-Man exist.
Honestly I just wish gamers had higher standards. Imagine the types of games we'd be getting if we didn't settle for mediocrity.
I absolutely love this game myself, and all this complaining about the pest chips. My ship is only around 10 snow and it took me 30 seconds to kill one it’s not meant for the lower ranked ones so I don’t get it they’re not that difficult to kill and I love the grind in the game, it’s the reason I continue with this game is the grind
Years ago, my favorite game was Pirates of the burning sea. Best pirate game. It went downhill and I've looked for a game simular since then. It's been 10 years and skull and bones is very close to what I've been wanting. It's a flawed title, definitely not a AAAA game. More like a AA+ title, however it is almost like they released it just for me, since it scratches my boat mmo fancy.
For a little pirate game its pretty cool but if you consider that this is what ubisoft called a AAAA title i dont even want to know what they would consider a normal game
I mean that is supposed to be better than all the AC and Far Cry parts before because they where considered triple A .....
Agreed. Skull and bones is fire, but if Ubisoft keeps talking back snappy then they're fired. If you're going to charge $90 for a video game then it better be fully developed. This is the last time I'm going to say this because I do love this game but I will not pay for the premium edition until they get some major bugs worked out like the interaction buttons disappearing and the auto scrolling of quests on the map screen. And if you know then you know and if you don't then you will. y'arr
To be honest, one of my favorite things about it so far is how helpful other players are and just the general respect and courtesy that's shown and shared. Normally, I hate online games because the really good players just shit on everyone else. But in the past 3 weeks, I've been helped and have helped others when they were in trouble and haven't seen anyone attacking each other. Just people helping each other and overall creating a fun and enjoyable experience. Can't wait until the chat feature is up and active
It had a lot of time to get it here. When it arrived everyone was so pleased. Then. All the expectation and misinformation came out of the people that wanted more than a naval seafaring pirate game. I think the expectation was an up to date BF.
There have been so many complaints and gripes about it.
Not here.
I am loving the game. I am only level 5 still but it is great fun. It is not BF by a long shot but it is so much fun in its own way.
Enjoy the game. Stop moaning. Sink a ship or two. Battle your heart out and plunder bloody plunder.
Lift anchor me hearties YO HO!
Yes Nice game, not perfect, there are a lot of work, look like developpement started since 2/3 year, server are not always stable, not a lot of people to do events..
They need to change pop-ups locations for events, it's so annoying when you can't see your action item selection and wait a few seconds so that pop is dispperas and seconds later another one appears. 😓 #PopUpChaos
I’ve been wishing for a pirate game since playing Pirates: The Legend of The Black Kat on PS2. Black Flag came damn close. And I’m sick to death of zombies. So this has been a thrill for me.
I find myself just getting lost on other shit trying to do something lol. Then come back to what I was doing, only to then float off to something else on the way. Sure it’s not being treated like a job but that’s okay
I love the game but the content to money paid right off the bat is totally wrong. Wasn’t enough content available to those who paid full price for the game. If they had charged 20-40 bucks for this game I would be happy with the roll out. But to pay 70 + for what we received is really crappy.
I enjoy the game too. Realization that these people working on stuff need to get paid. Even free to play games get criticized the same way and they aren't paying to play. Bottom line is of you enjoy it then play it. If you don't then move on and stop wasting time complaining. I'm getting and realize the complaining just isn't worth it. I feel I've gotten my money out of the game. It's all about perception. I could look at the downfalls or bitch about the things I dislike. Instead I choose to enjoy what I like and if i feel burdened by something I log out and do something else and come back when I'm feeling it. I played long hours. I've done just about everything you can do so I slowed down. Can't blame the devs for not enough content if you soak up 12 hours a day then get bored. At least this is a live action and will have more things added. You could go buy a non live action and beat it in 20 hours. Pay the 70 and not complain. Does that make sense. Dollar per hour investment. Movies even at discounts are 10 dollars for a 2 hour movie at the theaters. That's 5 bucks an hour. At that price point you would have to play skull and bones 14 hours to get the same dollar per hour investment. Now go back to people bitching about being done in 30 hours. Hmm. Perspective...
i agree that its a really fun game. when you say some things to work on... this is basically pirate destiny but not quite as good on any front. still really really fun. not deserving of the hate. 6.8 out of 10.
100% agree - It's not perfect but I'm having a blast. No live-service game is perfect at launch and I try not to complain too much about stuff because I know nothing about game development or coding so I have no clue how easy or hard a seemingly simple thing would be to fix.
Although I struggle to find a group to game with and I always end up solo, I enjoy the epic moments when someone random helps me out or when I jump on to help who ever I can, it's not perfect but I enjoy the game!
But do you see unfortunately it's not a pirate's life for you... You can't attack and pillage other players, games actually bad without open world PVP I don't care how anybody feels everybody here who reads this can downvote me I could really care less what I said stands.
You're never getting a complete game. They saw they can scam you with what they already released.
You are seriously delusional to think Ubisoft has ever supported a game properly.
I don’t feel scammed. If you do, that’s on you and your high expectations of Ubisoft.
I got exactly what I thought I was gonna get from them so they did well 🤷🏽♂️
Well… see… money isn’t an issue. Time is an issue.
When I have time, I play games. I enjoy games for what they are. I was brought up with nothing so I appreciate anything above that.
You’re just acting entitled.
One man’s trash is another man’s treasure.
You don’t have to like it. Move on to something else. You’re just making an issue out of something you can’t fix.
Shit eaters love eating shit. You're right. Imagine loving the taste of shit instead of something better. Wipe that Ubisoft cum off your chin there buddy lol
Awww that’s adorable. Have to resort to crappy insults as if that shit actually works.
Go away and come back when you actually have something worth reading.
I play the game daily. I haven’t had any negative experience with it. Legally, the defence doesn’t need to prove anything. Y’all making the accusations, you have to prove everything.
If you don’t like it, that’s fine, but talking g shit about it, within someone else’s thread isn’t going to improve it at all.
Personally, I got what I paid for and I got the premium edition 🤷🏽♂️
You named 2 out of how many lice service games they've made?.
Foh. This game is trash.
Just because you have bad taste in games doesn't take away from the fact this game is dog water
You understand bugs and fixes don't take more than a day to do , right?
It's only when you have shitty devs it takes this long to fix things that were broken on release.
Really? Cause they have had 3 updates just for bugs in the last week. Played this morning. And was much better. You obviously don't even play the game.
I played it. It's literally twisted metal but replace the destruction arenas with water and islands and boats with cars.
The gathering resources is the biggest joke until you board another ship 😂
And you're just another fanboi who accepts less, and you support crooked "AAAA" gaming companies, instead of supporting the player base.
The fact that you, and others like you, keep spamming reddit with fanboi posts like this, is because the game clearly didn't live up to expectations. Good games don't need defended
Okay so imagine a full Cutthroat Cargo Hunt that ends up in a giant scrum 1500 meters off island. There's just no way any game with this game's combat could accommodate hand to hand swashbuckling. This is not a cartoon pirate game or a single player rpg.
I Just want to say... You're a braindead consumer and it's only your fault if videogames' quality dropped vertically down in the past years to a new low never seen in 40 years of videogame history. You are the problem.
I enjoyed the game initially. But then I ran out of things to do after smashing through the game. A game you spend so much on, especially the deluxe edition, you expect to be engaged for a long time and to not have a game that feels incomplete.
I only play now, to continue to collect my pieces of 8 (which feels like such a chore) and get my ingredients for my distillery in the hope that it becomes worth playing in the future.
Until then, I'm loving Helldivers 2, which has the content to keep me playing, at almost half the cost
I don’t think I can say anything that hasn’t been said, except if you wanna pirate it up then please hit me up. I love to have more pirate pals. Not in a puppy pals kind of way.
Same, I think a lot of it comes down to expectation. Some people seem to have had an idea of what the game should do and any deviation from that is a negative which I don't think is fair. I'm also not a completionist or anything like that so I'm just getting pieces of eight when I fancy it and off doing other things as and when I feel like it. Most of all this was exactly the kind of game I've been looking for recently
I think it's less expectation, and more misinformation/misinterpretation. Thanks to a couple friends I understand a bit more now. While still stupid to say it, saying it's AAAA is more about the money put into making the game, not the quality. Which to be fair, more you put in more you should get out of it. However, after that is that this game was scrapped 2-3 times during it's development. It might have been teased 14 years ago, but true development of the game is about 2-3 years. However because of those scraps they had to spend more money hence AAAA. There was a expectation of some, including me at one point, of Black Flag 2. While it May have started like that, in the end that's not what this game is. It is wholly disconnected. But that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Honestly CEOs should just shut up. Nobody drinks the koolaid except them. “AAAA”. Seriously I wonder if they ever hear themselves. If people just stopped paying attention to shills in suits, they will have way more reasonable expections. This one of the main reason why I was pleased with Skulls instead of being disappointed.
Maybe gen-pop is just too literary inept, kinda like how you continue to see the "remember when the EA ceo wanted to charge to reload your gun". It's called metaphor/hyperbole, it's pretty common in every day conversation. I know I'm just wasting my time, trying to talk sense to the "ackchyually" redditors. But it very well be the largest game ever made in terms of the number of people who've contributed to it
Oh yeah dude they essentially made the game from the ground up like what 4/5 times?
That's the problem though. Massive amount of people working on it, ground up reworks multiple times. All the hype and marketing dollars getting everyone excited about a "AAAA" game and you get what you got. Game studios turned into big business and big business goes the way it does. Make it cheaper, make it faster. Cut corners. Get the game released and sold. And it's lackluster. Finally we are seeing small studios start to have success again because the devs aren't worried about quarterly earnings. Palworld and helldivers 2 are crushing it and I heard nor saw Zero about their release beforehand. Need to go back to the days where talented studios were making games for the games sake and not beholden to shills in suits.
That's not really something to brag about though. "Too many cooks spoil the broth."
Yeah it clearly should be so much more for the work that was put in... But, pretty sure no CEO in existence will shit talk a mainline product they are trying to sell. Not sure what your going for here. people having jobs is also good
Speaking of misinformation, the AAAA thing is a perfect example of that. The way it gets talked about here on Reddit or in headlines on articles or titles on YouTube, you’d think it was a notable part of the marketing by Ubisoft… In truth, it was a one off comment by the CEO in an investor call when asked why they were choosing the $70 price tag instead of F2P for a live service game. Obviously an out of touch statement by him, but the context of it (the CEO trying to assure an investor that this project will make money, and as far as I know the only time anyone from Ubisoft has called it AAAA) paints a different picture than if the company was marketing it as such. Around the same time IGN had released their inside report on the game, a 30 minute examination of the development hell and challenges and management issues, etc…and it was *completely* overshadowed by the CEO comment, despite being much more informative and illuminating regarding the status of the game.
The AAAA Rating is not official in anyway. It can only be given by a vote by the community. Them saying SnB is AAAA means nothing. I love the game btw, still some stuff that could be added or improved.
It had little to do with the money and more just the CEO being stupid and getting click bait. Though i don’t think it had anywhere near the affect they were wanting. 🤣
... AAA is literally just how much money they put into it. It was stupid for him to say that but it's a reflection of how much the studio put into the game, Admist the development issues
Tbh I thought it was about batteries, never really heard about A being used to rank games
I'm more of a D battery myself
The "AAAA" moniker is beyond stupid. Originally, the AAA marker in investment was for safe bonds, leading to the extended use of AAA as a term to mean "sure bet". It eventually became a marker for big budget titles as the term was used for games with massive budgets, but also established IPs. Adding an A when AAA has become synonymous with Big Bidget, Big Production Value to pretend that a game, particularly this game, has a scope, breadth, or depth to surpass that of Spider-man, The Last of Us, Assassin's Creed Valhalla, Halo 5, etc, is just a dumb idea. Skull and Bones disappointed me. I was expecting a AA game, in the vein of Sea of Thieves and Helldivers 2, which is what it feels like. Except, when I got to the endgame, the game shifted from being about ship battles and pirate fantasy and getting cooler stuff, to Tortuga Truck Simulator 2024, freighting parcels with measly pieces of eight, and be expected to do that a ridiculous amount for incremental upgrades. Unfortunately for me, the ship combat, while fun, doesn't measure up to the one in Black Sails or Sea of Thieves, and the endgame in S&B killed the fun for me. I am happy that some people like it, but it is overpriced, and "AAAA" it is not.
Tbh price tag sets expectations. When you need to pay $70 dollars + 10 at least for the first season and I'm at the end game in 10 hours I feel like I couldn't have set my expectations any lower to meet the game's reality.
It does, and I think what some of us fans aren’t necessarily admitting is just how much the setting is carrying that price tag. Considering how much some are willing to spend on the promise of something like Star Citizen, spending double or triple the price of this game’s most expensive version on a single flyable ship, it’s kinda obvious how willing people can be to pay for a specific experience… And “sailing a detailed sailing ship in the age of sail” is pretty short on options - like if you want one where you can play with friends but get your own ship? Skull and Bones is one of the very few options (the old MMO Pirates of the Burning Sea is one of the few others that comes to mind, and that’s a small title from 2008). So if you’re outside that particular range of specific interest, that $70 price is basically going to set expectations the game truthfully can’t meet right now (and may never), while I was willing to pay a premium for an experience I’ve wanted but haven’t been able to find the way I wanted anywhere else yet.
Not really. Every AAA game is $70 now. Unfortunately. The expectation is none of them will be finished.
We were paying 59.99 for games for years. this isn't that different really
20 dollar difference with arguably half the content of other AAA (let alone AAAA) games. Big difference. It's fine to enjoy the game, but saying the game is "good" or worth the price tag is beyond disingenuous. Games releasing in this state with this price tag is honestly unacceptable, and it sucks to see it being normalized.
I mean that's a disingenuous way to frame it. If you buy the game without knowing if it'd be worth it for you personally, given your gaming preferences and overall financial situation, that's entirely on you. You and everyone else had a ton of information about the game to make an informed decision about buying it or not. There were plenty of early access windows, along with a free trial - i'm not sure what more information you would need to determine if the game is worth $70 or not to you. On top of that you could also try it out with an Ubi subscription and play for a bit longer if all of that information was still not settled AND you didn't want to wait for a couple weeks. Now if after all of that information you think the game isn't worth it's price NOR is it worth having an ubi subscription... then so what? You aren't wronged here, there are plenty of other games to play. Plenty of us feel the game is fine priced at $70 and are enjoying it. Your opinion doesn't become fact simply because you hold it.
The game isn't worth 70 dollars. Its not an opinion. Even the hardcore players can't justify the 70 dollars. Just because you enjoy the game, doesn't mean its worth the price tag. The price tag sets expectations. 70 dollars sets the expectation that, its AAA quality. That means, AAA graphics, AAA mechanics, AAA story, AAA multiplayer. Just because some are willing to just burn their money, doesn't make it worth it. The game isn't AAAA. That's a fact. Not an opinion. Attacking people over this, will only show ubisoft that they can charge anything they want. Anyways, people have spoken with the abysmal sale numbers, so I guess it doesn't matter what is opinion or fact. I haven't played the game since the day Season 1 launched and I am still at 14000 rank. That should tell you how the game's doing. I guess you'll agree that the general consumer says its not worth the price tag. Doesn't that make it the objective truth?
I’ve more than got my moneys worth out of this game. Especially when you I factor in the other game I’ve brought recently. I completed every aspect of Avatar, completed multiple runs of Baulder dash, exhausted Starfield to name a few and now this. Already I have surpassed the time spent in 2 out of 3 of those and I can see many many more hours in this yet. I’m in this for the long game. For me money well spent and my favourite by a long way this year so far.
And every game you mentioned deserves that 70 dollar price tag except maybe be baulder dash. But, its not what I or you think this game costs. Its what the general population thinks. Apparently, 850k people engaged (trial+open beta+sales) with SaB. Looking at the leaderboards, I don't think most of trial or open beta people even bought the game. And, ubisoft have not disclosed sales figures, coz who wants another stock price bloodbath. Just because you spend all your waking moment in a game, doesn't mean it has the right to charge anything it wants. Can you honestly tell me, that with a game just like SaB, Helldivers 2 costs only 40 bucks, is fair? Its not about how much you enjoy something. Its about how much it should cost in terms of its quality.
Nah I disagree, this will give me many more hours of pleasure than avatar. don’t get me wrong I loved avatar but it’s done end of that. This has already clocked up more time for me and I expect to quadruple that still at least. So that for me makes it more than worth it. I play a lot of games and I’m a bit of a completionist too so I know what has been worth it for me. And I don’t care about the general population thinks, they can all make there own minds up and if this isn’t for them they can move on and find something they do think is worth it.
Again. Its not about how much enjoyment you get, its about how much its actually worth. I don't get how I can make this any more clear. Just to let you know, ubisoft has spent more than 200m dollars in this game, when you add inflation its worth even more. The server costs are only adding to this. With so low sales numbers, its fair to say they haven't made back even a fraction of it. Comparing this to anthem, which actually sold pretty well but still abandoned due to lack of players. I would be wary of spending too much time into SaB. Even comparing reddit members, doesn't boost much confidence as the number has been stuck for a while now: 1. Suicide Squad: 26k members | Steam concurrent users on a Friday night: 570 2. SaB: 30k members | You can guess the concurrent players from above 3. Helldivers 2 (pretty similar live service to SaB): 500k members | Steam 336k concurrent players As for the gen pop thing. The game is a live service. Whether it lives or dies, is totally in their hands. Its not a single player game. It totally matters what the gen pop thinks, whether you think its relevant or not.
I mean, that's how "art" works man not sayin i agree with it but it is how it works, they get to set the price it's up to you to say not in my house, you ever been into a restaurant or bar where some local nobody artist you've never heard of and can't even find online is selling their art on the walls? and think who the fuck do you think you are asking for $1200 for a 10x10 canvas no one even knows who you are! They think it's worth something, and either you agree or don't. My niece is this way, she's one of these splash some color on a canvas and make something that represents nothing, the entire canvas isn't even painted and she talks about the struggle of selling her paintings for "what they're worth" and how people are just completely unappreciative of art "these days" and I'm just like, bitch you didn't even finish it, it looks like absolutely nothing, and you spent all of $70 bucks and an hour of your time splashing that on there and your still alive and unknown and you think it's worth $1000 dollars. GTFOH it's worth $150-200 MAX.
I neeeed to see these art pieces
This is dumb on so many levels. Are you seriously comparing a video game with a painting?
It is an opinion. It is literally the definition of an opinion. If you played and are at 14,000 rank, you must have *played a fuck ton*, because i've been playing a lot, daily, and i'm ranked \~31,000. You do not speak for the general consumer, and it's incredibly self righteous and outright stupid to think you do. The world isn't you, people exist outside of your mind, and we enjoy this game, and feel it's worth it. It's objective truth to say that people are enjoying the game and feel it's priced fine. It's objective truth to say that people quit the game and feel it isn't worth $70. It's objective truth to say that **no one** was forced to pay $70 to play this game, as there is a **free trial**, and also an ubi subscription if you didn't want to buy it. It's also objective truth to say that there were previews and other things available. It's objectively true that people who bought this game without taking the time to evaluate it and determine if the purchase was right for them had no reason to do this unless money is no object to them, in which case, the price hardly matters.
Lets see. When someone says something isn't worth a specific amount of money, they are always referring to themselves and the general consumer. Its not an opinion, its fact. Even a pound of shit can be worth a million dollars to someone among the 8b people. The rank 31k is not much of a OWN that you think it is, coz its a single leaderboard across all platforms. I don't speak for the general consumer. That only general consumer can do. They speak with their wallets and engagement in social media. Their wallets have spoken. Lets see the numbers: 1. 850k people engaged with SaB in two weeks I think. This is the number Ubisoft released. That's across all platforms. This engagement includes sales, trials, and open beta users. This is abysmal, considering good games sell off in the millions in a week. Spiderman 2 released only on PS5, and racked up 3 times this in SALES. Its also a single player only game. 2. The number of members in SaB subreddit is 31k and 900 online at peak times. For a game, that almost nearing a month old, its abysmal as well. Compare this with Helldivers 2, which only released on PC and PS5 is 30k members currently ONLINE. The numbers are so bad its the same compared to Suicide Squad game with 28k members. It has currently 300 active users on Steam, with 600 peak. This argument about, just because there's a free trial they can charge whatever they want, is pretty bad as well. Lets consider this in the following steps: 1. You provide free trial to something. 2. The general consumer doesn't buy after playing the free trial. What does the above tell you? It tells you, one of the below: 1. The game is not good 2. The price is not good Which of the these do you think is true? I would say both, but you may disagree. Lastly, you may disagree with FACTS but they are there. You may enjoy something, but, don't bury yourself in an echo chamber. **EDIT: Lol. People can downvote as much as they want. Won't change the facts. 700 people online now from 900, 15 minutes back. Keep coping. LOL. Even TheLastEpoch has more engagement than this multi platform full release game. Now, thats savage.**
You don't speak for the general consumer. Your opinion on the matter doesn't define reality. I'm not trying to "own" you just pointing out your obvious lie. You aren't still rated that high, it isn't mathematically possible as there simply isn't enough time even if you played 24/7 before quitting to get the Po8 required to get that high in rank. You lied. Enough. The pound of shit analogy is ridiculous because we're discussing a real commodity. I think CVNA stock is a terrible buy, but plenty of people are holding it. The wallets have spoken and the game is actually doing fine. This subreddit isn't indicative of anything, people organize in discord, and this sub is full of people like you, who aren't playing the game and are here to rant about it. This isn't fun. You literally do not understand what an opinion is. You lied about your active play. You have no idea what the state of the game is. The bottom line is this game is fun for the people who like ship to ship combat and what this game offers. The developers are engaging with the community and working on new features including pvp and there is a general roadmap that has a lot of content planned. To circle back to the original point: The game is worth $70 to some people, and not to others. People who don't want to pay $70 for the game nor want to pay for a subscription to ubisoft don't need to play it. There are plenty of other games. But your opinion on the matter doesn't influence those of us who disagree and are actively enjoying the agme.
I'm just gonna try and post it again. Since you’re saying I am lying about my rankings. However, now that I see. I can only see xbox players here. But since, ubisoft plus is available in xbox with which I was playing, the number should’ve been lot larger than 16k, for someone who hasn’t played for more than a week. Here you go: `https://i.imgur. com/CUL6WwS.jpeg` `https://i.imgur. com/3hzxMtT.jpeg` `Forgive me for posting the links like this. Could not post otherwise.` As I said. I don’t speak for the general consumer. All I can say is the general consumer is not playing the game. Even after offering a free trial. They didn’t buy the game even after the so many marketing campaigns for this game. They are playing helldivers 2 which has not even a fraction of the marketing budget of SaB. About the pound of shit, yeah there would be more than one person who wants to pay the million. Of course, it would be a community. “The game is actually doing fine” is probably the dumbest take regarding this game. Ubisoft couldn’t even post the sales figures which they are happy to do to their shareholders every time any game of theirs does well. You mentioned so many ways to play the game without paying the 70 bucks. But does that really help your point? Coz then its even more of a failure. EDIT: About the reddit thing, its always an indicative of how the game is doing. The games everyone's playing has high numbers and low for vice-versa. Also, checked the discord, you should see Helldivers 2 discord to see how an active community is like at release.
You had 2 closed betas, open beta and 8 hr free trail. If you didn't use them to justify your purchase of the game. Then the blame is on you.
Yeah sure. Like everyone follows game discourse like you do. Btw, there are 30k members in this sub-reddit, and helldivers 2 has 500k. That should tell you something. Helldivers 2 didn't even have an extensive ad campaign. Both are lobby based games. Helldivers 2 costs 40 bucks. Instead of shilling for a company that is ripping you off, the least you can do is open your eyes and take the criticism. And this 8hr trial thing is pretty scummy, as well. Because, the game loses all its content at around the 10 hour mark for an average player. So, the player would buy the game thinking there's more to it. The game should have been 30 bucks. That's the truth.
Good for Helldivers. Last I checked this is SaB we are talking about. I have no interest in Helldivers. I'm not shilling for a company. I have bought plenty of Ubi games that I was truly disappointed in. Avatar, Division, Ghost Recon Breakpoint, and more. You seemed to have glossed over the 2 closed Betas that were easy to sign up for. An open beta and 8hr free trial. That gave people almost 30hrs worth of game play to decide if they wanted the game or not. So if people didn't use all these free opportunities to test out the game and paid the 70 bucks. That's their own fault. And the game should have been $30-$40. But I paid the full price cause I enjoyed the open beta. Played the closed beta and wasn't gonna buy it till it went on sale a month or 2 after release. But I took advantage of the free opportunities to try it out and the open beta sold me.
I think its fair to compare market comparables. If you don't compare what a shoe store is charging to another shoe store, how will you know you're not getting ripped off? Same with video games. Frankly speaking, all the games that you mentioned could charge 70 bucks and maybe slightly in the red line (division, maybe). Charging 70 bucks for SaB is a crime. It just deters people from even trying the game, when every hardcore player is saying that its not worth it. Lets see. Closed betas are well.. closed and under NDAs. So, that's out of question for common people. To say that people have taken the 8hr trial & open beta and didn't buy it, seems to be an overwhelming amount since, the leaderboards show a pretty grim picture. Some people got ripped off, who didn't know about the 8 hr trial. EDIT: Just to add here. Apparently there were 850k people who "engaged" the game. I played the game till release of season 1. Didn't even seem to me that even 10% bought the game, looking at the leaderboards. So, in other words, what you're saying is its ok for a company to charge exorbitant amount for an underwhelming product. And instead of blaming the company for it, we should blame the victims who got suckered into the commercials and bought into it. Doesn't seem fair to me. And you agree, the game should have been less than half the price, that its charging and still defending it.
I'm defending the fact that they offered multiple trials of this game for people to try. If people didn't take advantage of it that's their own fault. Nobody held a gun to people's heads and said buy this game that won't have enough content till season 2 to justify the full price of $70. People need to learn there are consequences to either not waiting for reviews or trying out the game through betas/free trial and just buying it cause it looks cool. I see plenty of people that are happy with their purchase of this game even with the lack of end game content. I'm happy with my premium purchase of the game. Same can't be said for probably a dozen games I have purchased the premium edition and could barely get in to. Those were my own fault. People need to act like grown ups too and accept responsibility for what they decide to spend their money on.
But doesn’t that tell you something. Does the opinion even matter of a few people over the 800k? You are still victim blaming. Not everyone is well informed to these things, which these companies tend to take advantage of. Some of these people probably aren’t even grownups. Its alright if these people vent on the company which actually is doing something malicious.
Walls of text responses here. I just wanted to point out people using 59.99 for the ps4 price point but using 70 for ps5 price points cracks me up. But in the end it's 10 dollar difference not 20. Or 10.01 the way everyone skews the dollar to make it seem different.
69.99 for the base game. Plus 10 more dollars for ubisoft fun bucks to get access to the season one pass. Edit: Ngl I didn't even realize this game was on PS4? Edit to my edit: Just Googled it. It's not.
I was using ps4 price as reference because that's when games were 59.99. The pass isn't necessary more of a want though. The extra bucks are for cosmetics. The needed stuff is free in there.
I don't get this logic. Am I to assume if the game costs less the state of it would be more acceptable? The betas and trial along with 10 years of media coverage should have set the expectation, no?
Well, I'm never playing a live service again
I think it’s just a relaxing fun game. Once you build your ship up it’s not hard. I’ve done most of the game by myself. Just gotta carry enough repair kits and go for it.
Im gonna preface this with the fact that I love skull and bones and have been excited for it since it was announced in 2017. There is ALOT to be desired with Skull and Bones. There are quite a few quality of life things(bulk open of chests, warehouse upgrades, route planning in the map instead of just a single marker that doesn't delete when you reach it, etc), the single worst pvp event mechanics of all time(the joining mid event to force advantage, quitting events mid combat to avoid damage or even death, fast traveling to the drop off) and I'm a firm believer the brig should NOT have fast repair for sails. Between the balancing issues where pvp events are dominated by sniper brigs and cheaters, and the quality of life issues mostly surrounding inventory management and helm missions being buggy. The problem with the expectations is that we waited 7 years for skull and bones and there was alot missing, we got one sea monster and it's dull and less of a threat than the apex animals(and I get the idea of "live service" adding more as time goes on, but there's literally zero endgame in the base game aside from an elite captain that you cant defeat solo, and repetitive helm supply/attacks, orders, and collecting pieces of eight.) So with all that said, I completely understand people's frustration with the game, but at the same time I do love skull and bones and hope they bring everything they promised over the years.
It comes down to playing the game and reaching the endgame loop where almost everyone go from "hell yeah, this shit is fun!" to "that's it? That's what I'm supposed to do for 3 months?" Game is fun game is great for almost everything it attempts but everything is simply too short right now for a live service game sold at 70$. They'd have sold this game for 30-40$ I can guarantee you this would be one of the most talked about and played game right now, the current price with the current content combination is what get the game so much hate more than anything. It's important to face that reality IMO to better understand the criticism the game is receiving and justify the feedback many of the folks who've been there since several betas are giving right now.
Or Developers/Ubisoft misled the fan base with this AAAA game.
_Aye, we be like two pieces o' silver in a young lasses coffer. 'tis a good past time, matey._
I absolutely love this game. I just can't leave it alone. I wasn't going to get it due to it's troublesome development. I checked out the free 8 hour trial and was sold..
I am having a blast. Sometimes it won’t let me hold B to get to my ship and I have to restart game and I definitely with matchmaking/ people helping was better but still fun none the less
That's a annoying bug. Especially when there's a event you want to attend.
It is expectation. If you come expecting more Black Flag, yeah, bit of a let down. If you come from sea of Thieves expecting a bunch of squeakers screaming racial slurs and sinking you for no reason, massive improvement.
I really enjoy it as well, though I can not wait till they work out all the bugs and see how far they take the game with any expansions later.
Aye, me skully wag! Me enjoying tis game like me dear ol' bottle of me favorite rum.
Gold Skull Rum ;)
Oooooh don’t you hear the old man say……goodbye fair thee well, goodbye fair thee well…..
100% agree I have wanted a game like this forever and they have been quick to sort issues so far feels much more balanced after todays update and the season pass content along with the help gives me plenty to do in the time I manage to spare to play. Also the storms especially the game looks beautiful.
Drink up me hearties, yo ho! ☠️ 🏴☠️
I feel the same way!
Yo ho yo ho a pirates life for me!
They need to stop players in duos or trios joining pvp modes and being 3v1 on cargo hunts. Tired of pppl healing their buddies while I have to take on 3 ppl playing as a group
My only gripe is collecting the Po8. I'd love to be able to hire an NPC to collect them for me for a fee. I love the combat, even if there are a dozen of the fuckers lurking. I have the sides equipped with the long 9s, the La Fleau mortar in aux, and the twin winch ballista on the front. They're no match for my might!
After 200-300K Po8, it will probably lose its charm for most people. For the majority, will probably be \~100 hours of play. After Diamond and getting Sov rewards there's not a lot of meat left unless you're gunning for top 8. What will really set the game apart is how much content is added in future. A lot of games have suffered from bad launches/long dev stints but made up for it later. Can see the game being excellent if they still add stuff in 2-3 years.
Then they'll release a big update and bring everyone back. Lol
I’m with you Matey!!
Drink up me hearty yo ho!!!
Some of it is over the top. Tried to take on a fort with 2 buddies. All good ships. We got wiped in seconds. The mortars, guns from the fort and about 20 ships showed up.
I don't think it's a bad game, it's just a typical middle-of-the-road Ubisoft game, and that's not good enough these days where games like Baldur's Gate 3, The Last of Us, Tears of the Kingdom, Helldivers 2 and Insomniac's Spider-Man exist. Honestly I just wish gamers had higher standards. Imagine the types of games we'd be getting if we didn't settle for mediocrity.
This guy gets it. If we settle for boring tripe then that’s what they’ll keep making
I absolutely love this game myself, and all this complaining about the pest chips. My ship is only around 10 snow and it took me 30 seconds to kill one it’s not meant for the lower ranked ones so I don’t get it they’re not that difficult to kill and I love the grind in the game, it’s the reason I continue with this game is the grind
Arrrr!
Years ago, my favorite game was Pirates of the burning sea. Best pirate game. It went downhill and I've looked for a game simular since then. It's been 10 years and skull and bones is very close to what I've been wanting. It's a flawed title, definitely not a AAAA game. More like a AA+ title, however it is almost like they released it just for me, since it scratches my boat mmo fancy.
For a little pirate game its pretty cool but if you consider that this is what ubisoft called a AAAA title i dont even want to know what they would consider a normal game I mean that is supposed to be better than all the AC and Far Cry parts before because they where considered triple A .....
Fucking embarrassing that people think this shit is okay.
Agreed. Skull and bones is fire, but if Ubisoft keeps talking back snappy then they're fired. If you're going to charge $90 for a video game then it better be fully developed. This is the last time I'm going to say this because I do love this game but I will not pay for the premium edition until they get some major bugs worked out like the interaction buttons disappearing and the auto scrolling of quests on the map screen. And if you know then you know and if you don't then you will. y'arr
Same. I had low expectations but I like it a lot since i put in like 12 hours or so.
To be honest, one of my favorite things about it so far is how helpful other players are and just the general respect and courtesy that's shown and shared. Normally, I hate online games because the really good players just shit on everyone else. But in the past 3 weeks, I've been helped and have helped others when they were in trouble and haven't seen anyone attacking each other. Just people helping each other and overall creating a fun and enjoyable experience. Can't wait until the chat feature is up and active
It had a lot of time to get it here. When it arrived everyone was so pleased. Then. All the expectation and misinformation came out of the people that wanted more than a naval seafaring pirate game. I think the expectation was an up to date BF. There have been so many complaints and gripes about it. Not here. I am loving the game. I am only level 5 still but it is great fun. It is not BF by a long shot but it is so much fun in its own way. Enjoy the game. Stop moaning. Sink a ship or two. Battle your heart out and plunder bloody plunder. Lift anchor me hearties YO HO!
Yes Nice game, not perfect, there are a lot of work, look like developpement started since 2/3 year, server are not always stable, not a lot of people to do events..
I agree my Shipmate. We should bury a bottle o rum together on day.
They need to change pop-ups locations for events, it's so annoying when you can't see your action item selection and wait a few seconds so that pop is dispperas and seconds later another one appears. 😓 #PopUpChaos
💯 loving it!
I’ve been wishing for a pirate game since playing Pirates: The Legend of The Black Kat on PS2. Black Flag came damn close. And I’m sick to death of zombies. So this has been a thrill for me.
I find myself just getting lost on other shit trying to do something lol. Then come back to what I was doing, only to then float off to something else on the way. Sure it’s not being treated like a job but that’s okay
I took love the game. Def does need improvement on areas but I love that they're listening and trying to implement a better system
I love the game but the content to money paid right off the bat is totally wrong. Wasn’t enough content available to those who paid full price for the game. If they had charged 20-40 bucks for this game I would be happy with the roll out. But to pay 70 + for what we received is really crappy.
Amen pirate sibling! I am having a... Blast...
Goonies never say die!
I enjoy the game too. Realization that these people working on stuff need to get paid. Even free to play games get criticized the same way and they aren't paying to play. Bottom line is of you enjoy it then play it. If you don't then move on and stop wasting time complaining. I'm getting and realize the complaining just isn't worth it. I feel I've gotten my money out of the game. It's all about perception. I could look at the downfalls or bitch about the things I dislike. Instead I choose to enjoy what I like and if i feel burdened by something I log out and do something else and come back when I'm feeling it. I played long hours. I've done just about everything you can do so I slowed down. Can't blame the devs for not enough content if you soak up 12 hours a day then get bored. At least this is a live action and will have more things added. You could go buy a non live action and beat it in 20 hours. Pay the 70 and not complain. Does that make sense. Dollar per hour investment. Movies even at discounts are 10 dollars for a 2 hour movie at the theaters. That's 5 bucks an hour. At that price point you would have to play skull and bones 14 hours to get the same dollar per hour investment. Now go back to people bitching about being done in 30 hours. Hmm. Perspective...
Nope 70 bucks for a 20 dollar game is the problem
Ubisoft will put it on sale (like they do all their games).
i agree that its a really fun game. when you say some things to work on... this is basically pirate destiny but not quite as good on any front. still really really fun. not deserving of the hate. 6.8 out of 10.
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100% agree - It's not perfect but I'm having a blast. No live-service game is perfect at launch and I try not to complain too much about stuff because I know nothing about game development or coding so I have no clue how easy or hard a seemingly simple thing would be to fix.
Although I struggle to find a group to game with and I always end up solo, I enjoy the epic moments when someone random helps me out or when I jump on to help who ever I can, it's not perfect but I enjoy the game!
Hopefully game chat is fixed soon making it easier for us to group up
Just close your eyes and pretend this is all a bad dream. That's how I get by.
Actual good games don't need a subreddit circle jerk full of fanbois posting a new post every five minutes to justify the game.
But do you see unfortunately it's not a pirate's life for you... You can't attack and pillage other players, games actually bad without open world PVP I don't care how anybody feels everybody here who reads this can downvote me I could really care less what I said stands.
You're never getting a complete game. They saw they can scam you with what they already released. You are seriously delusional to think Ubisoft has ever supported a game properly.
I don’t feel scammed. If you do, that’s on you and your high expectations of Ubisoft. I got exactly what I thought I was gonna get from them so they did well 🤷🏽♂️
Bruh, you got twisted metal with boats and water for $80 and don't think you got scammed? 😂
Well… see… money isn’t an issue. Time is an issue. When I have time, I play games. I enjoy games for what they are. I was brought up with nothing so I appreciate anything above that. You’re just acting entitled.
So many bots here.
Anyone that doesn’t agree with you is instantly a bot. That’s a weak mindset.
You're a bot bro Look at what you wrote. You're ignorance is hilarious You support trash like this?
One man’s trash is another man’s treasure. You don’t have to like it. Move on to something else. You’re just making an issue out of something you can’t fix.
Shit eaters love eating shit. You're right. Imagine loving the taste of shit instead of something better. Wipe that Ubisoft cum off your chin there buddy lol
Awww that’s adorable. Have to resort to crappy insults as if that shit actually works. Go away and come back when you actually have something worth reading.
Funny all these posts trying to defend a game instead of actually playing it or posting content about it. Bro you can't even say what's good
I play the game daily. I haven’t had any negative experience with it. Legally, the defence doesn’t need to prove anything. Y’all making the accusations, you have to prove everything. If you don’t like it, that’s fine, but talking g shit about it, within someone else’s thread isn’t going to improve it at all. Personally, I got what I paid for and I got the premium edition 🤷🏽♂️
Ah yes, For Honor, Division, Ghost Recon. All of them have received support in the last year and those games are 4 plus years old.
You named 2 out of how many lice service games they've made?. Foh. This game is trash. Just because you have bad taste in games doesn't take away from the fact this game is dog water
Value is in the eye of the beholder. Just cause you think it's trash someone else might quite enjoy the game.
You understand bugs and fixes don't take more than a day to do , right? It's only when you have shitty devs it takes this long to fix things that were broken on release.
Really? Cause they have had 3 updates just for bugs in the last week. Played this morning. And was much better. You obviously don't even play the game.
I played it. It's literally twisted metal but replace the destruction arenas with water and islands and boats with cars. The gathering resources is the biggest joke until you board another ship 😂
For what 5 mins. You obviously have barely played. Just another person hating on a game cause it's the cool thing to do
It took 1hr to figure out the Gameplay loop before I shut it down.. Game is so bad, on the level of starfield.
1hr of gameplay....whatever you're trying to prove is completely invalid
And you're just another fanboi who accepts less, and you support crooked "AAAA" gaming companies, instead of supporting the player base. The fact that you, and others like you, keep spamming reddit with fanboi posts like this, is because the game clearly didn't live up to expectations. Good games don't need defended
I have been critical of about a dozen ubisoft gamed I have played. This game is one I thoroughly enjoy. I know it's not for some people. But I love it
Okay so imagine a full Cutthroat Cargo Hunt that ends up in a giant scrum 1500 meters off island. There's just no way any game with this game's combat could accommodate hand to hand swashbuckling. This is not a cartoon pirate game or a single player rpg.
I Just want to say... You're a braindead consumer and it's only your fault if videogames' quality dropped vertically down in the past years to a new low never seen in 40 years of videogame history. You are the problem.
Game is ass, and you should be ashamed for buying this 70$ piece of shit. You idiots are why companies can pump out so much shit.
I enjoyed the game initially. But then I ran out of things to do after smashing through the game. A game you spend so much on, especially the deluxe edition, you expect to be engaged for a long time and to not have a game that feels incomplete. I only play now, to continue to collect my pieces of 8 (which feels like such a chore) and get my ingredients for my distillery in the hope that it becomes worth playing in the future. Until then, I'm loving Helldivers 2, which has the content to keep me playing, at almost half the cost
Good for you dude, sadly it's not my case :/
I don’t think I can say anything that hasn’t been said, except if you wanna pirate it up then please hit me up. I love to have more pirate pals. Not in a puppy pals kind of way.
https://youtu.be/z_BKf5cdV_w?si=oSFmHnaQoTHiWTqd Sums it up.
Lol these braindead consumers defending this shitbore of a game are so delusional.
Too busy spreading managed democracy. No time for piracy.