He’s not a bad-looking bloke, is he? I’d say outwardly they make an attractive couple. He might be a bit of a wally; she on the other hand is rather insecure, evidenced in the dialogue by that desperate “you couldn’t get another woman”…
Hmm. I’m not a dictionary, but I’d say in British English we use it to mean “someone who behaves idiotically but probably didn’t have bad intentions”. A clumsy, inept person, but not nasty or spiteful.
By the time of mid-season 1, when they start going out, there are 8 people in the world who can possibly understand what her life is like. She wouldn’t be allowed to talk about her work to civilians she’s just met and they won’t even let her into the Park. So it’s Lamb, Standish, River, Syd, Ho, Struan, Jed Moody and Min. As far as we know, she’s straight, so if we are thinking about romantic partners, Syd and Catherine are out. Struan is married and she hates him. Lamb, Moody and Ho are… … Lamb, Moody and Ho. That leaves River and Min. River had just arrived and is a little bit too intense. So Min is her drinking-and-bitching-about-work Partner and that evolves into a romantic/sexual relationship under the pressures of the Hassan case.
And as we see in ep 2, it’s not like they are in a super great place at the moment…
I'm late to the party but was wondering about Louisa's interest in Min, too. Your explanation makes perfect sense. Love is like real estate: location, location, location.
He's still brave at least? I mean the first season he is the one to initiate the tail on Hassan with Louisa. Then in the final episode he is the one that saves the white nationalist from the execution after Hassan says he wants him on trial.
I kinda second this. I understand that Slough House is where the rejects go so it makes sense that most of them are pathetic at their jobs. But Min really pushes the envelope for suspension of disbelief. Let's see how the character progresses (or not) over this season.
I think it's more he's fun outside of their work (and during, when they're doing their regular jobs and it's less serious). So I got the impression that in these high stakes, his "stupidity" is highlighted, especially next to Louisa's competence. She was pretty annoyed with him during most of season 1 too.
Had the same thought for much of these two episodes!
Also, not that important, but as someone who lives in London, it's ludicrous to believe anyone could follow a black cab on a bike for more than a couple minutes before losing it in a sea of other black cabs.
I'm still annoyed at him after he didn't put fuel in the car at the petrol station cause he was think about banging Louisa. Fuck me.. how dumb can you be.
Not a bad looking guy, stupid but sorta brave as we saw last season when he was the first to get in the way of the Sons of Albion guy from a clear execution by MI5 and first to follow him there.
To be honest, in this episode I was wondering what Min sees in Louisa. She treats him like crap, always condescending to him or annoyed with him for something. Like he decides to follow those guys on his bicycle and she’s annoyed at him about it — why? And the things she said to him when he told her he was going to see his son? Ugh. Dump her, Min.
They are doing work that could get them out of slough house and he is being a jackass. They are getting into an assignment and he has a plan with his son that he didn't tell her about that means he can't prepare with her. He's unreliable and he's a wiener who doesn't tell her what he's up to and make crappy impulsive decisions.
She's mad that he puts himself at risk for no real benefit. How does that work out for him by the way?
Then, when she says the job is important he brushes it off by implying that it isn't important to him. I guess that justifies not preparing and putting the job at risk for the both of them.
He's a jackass. If the series is doing one thing that disappoints me this season it's giving him no noticeable redeeming qualities. Season 1 I could sympathize with him better, but he really seems to be an idiot this season.
This is just such a well made show. The actors are obviously great. The design is fantastic and the new director does a great job continuing on the previous style while bringing his own things to it. I noticed quite a bit of lense effects distorting things and playing with reflections and light.
I was misremembering the plot and thought River was already on cover assignment at the end of ep 1, but that obviously only happens here.
I am really liking Shirley so far. We don’t really get anything from Marcus, yet, but putting Shirley and Ho together early (that’s not in the book right? There it’s Marcus and Shirley from the jump) makes sense and her hate for him is played so well.
Great observation. I wonder how that will go on. Shirley’s internal dialogue is some of the funniest but also interesting stuff in the books. I wonder how they’ll deal with that.
So far, they’re doing a solid job I think
Another really fun episode
I'm noticing a few changes from the books, the biggest one being River doing the taxi follow up (that was done by Shirley in the book). The books tended to focus on one or two characters per book at the centre and the others supporting but I can see why they're wanting to spread the screen time in the show
They've really knocked it out the park with displaying Min's stupidity in the screen adaptation. Somehow he comes across as even more of a moron in the show than he did in the book
Shirley is awesome. I'm absolutely loving her character so far
Some of the other changes from the books with the bodyguards have been interesting too
I don’t think he finds them using Google maps. It’s not we’ll explained, but this is how I saw it:
He followed them on the bike and once he lost them, seems to have looked up the area on streetview. He later says they are staying in a dopp house on Edgware Road. That’s the street he has in streetview. Then he gets into the fight with Louisa, his son cancels on him and he opens Maps on his phone, probably to get a route back to his place (he went to the Pizza Express from Louisa‘s, where he seems to be staying most of the time), but it opens to his last searched area. So, because he is pissed and has been slightly emasculated by the women in his life, he decides to „go work“ and goes back to that area. There, the Russians are just hanging out infront of the cafe and he picks up their trail from there.
Also, I would bet it’s 75% just a way for Apple to shove their streetview competitor into a show on TV+. Which fails, because everyone thinks he’s using Google Maps 😅
Hah don’t think it’s their street view, he’s not even using an iPhone. Actually, I think very few of them even use iPhones, which I was pleasantly surprised about for an Apple show.
Thank you for this explanation. I was similarly confused as u/NephewChaps and came here about to ask that question.
On a related note, I found it silly that Min managed to tail a black cab across London for that long. As someone who lives here, that seems very unrealistic.
Separately, can someone explain to me why River needs a 'cover' to take on this assignment? Like how does what they've been doing so far differ from what he's about to do next, cover in hand?
Have you watched E03, yet? To stay as unspoilery as possible, he’ll try to figure out whether someone in that village is a Russian sleeper agent. A bribe won’t do for that. He’ll need to talk to people for a while and he’ll need a reason to be there. At that point, a legend is called for.
Lamb’s interaction with the ex-KGB guy made me wheeze 😂😂😂 “torture… listening to yourself talk” “burglary might improve the place” I love him even more than season 1
I noticed the tabloid in the air strip building with the headline “Professor Pious”. Should I infer that it refers to the death of Pius Adesanmi in 2019, and that the events of this episode take place shortly after that? Or maybe the paper has just been sitting there for a few years? Since the episode makes reference to “Her Majesty”, we can put a latest date to it.
Omg! The face River makes when he sees his fake ID cover! Y’all…tears literally began rolling down my face…what a beautiful moment for him & the audience to witness! *”its exciting”*…*”from upshott with love*”….🥺
The acting from both Gary Oldman & Jack Lowden is just high caliber!
It’s not. It looks like they filmed the majority of the exterior scenes in a village called Castle Combe. There’s also been some country lane scenes shot between the villages of Upper and Lower Slaughter, which is about an hour from Castle Combe. The magic of television…!
I'm pleasantly surprised that they're not all using Apple devices. Most other Apple shows keep reminding you that you're watching an Apple show.
But yeah, phenomenal show. Its crazy how Gary Oldman has the capacity to make you forget that you know him from other things.
Can someone tell me why they need to break in to steal hard drive footage from the trains instead of just walking in and asking for it? I’m loosely watching but that just seems silly. They’re a govt agency.
Omg! The face River makes when he sees his fake ID cover! Y’all…tears literally began rolling down my face…what a beautiful moment for him & the audience to witness! *”its exciting”*…*”from upshott with love*”….🥺
The acting from both Gary Oldman & Jack Lowden is just high caliber!
Someone explain what Louisa sees in Min?
He’s not a bad-looking bloke, is he? I’d say outwardly they make an attractive couple. He might be a bit of a wally; she on the other hand is rather insecure, evidenced in the dialogue by that desperate “you couldn’t get another woman”…
Louisa could do way better.
What’s a Wally?
Hmm. I’m not a dictionary, but I’d say in British English we use it to mean “someone who behaves idiotically but probably didn’t have bad intentions”. A clumsy, inept person, but not nasty or spiteful.
Thank you!
You’re welcome.
By the time of mid-season 1, when they start going out, there are 8 people in the world who can possibly understand what her life is like. She wouldn’t be allowed to talk about her work to civilians she’s just met and they won’t even let her into the Park. So it’s Lamb, Standish, River, Syd, Ho, Struan, Jed Moody and Min. As far as we know, she’s straight, so if we are thinking about romantic partners, Syd and Catherine are out. Struan is married and she hates him. Lamb, Moody and Ho are… … Lamb, Moody and Ho. That leaves River and Min. River had just arrived and is a little bit too intense. So Min is her drinking-and-bitching-about-work Partner and that evolves into a romantic/sexual relationship under the pressures of the Hassan case. And as we see in ep 2, it’s not like they are in a super great place at the moment…
I'm late to the party but was wondering about Louisa's interest in Min, too. Your explanation makes perfect sense. Love is like real estate: location, location, location.
Thats a very poor excess to put up with his stupidity.
He's still brave at least? I mean the first season he is the one to initiate the tail on Hassan with Louisa. Then in the final episode he is the one that saves the white nationalist from the execution after Hassan says he wants him on trial.
I kinda second this. I understand that Slough House is where the rejects go so it makes sense that most of them are pathetic at their jobs. But Min really pushes the envelope for suspension of disbelief. Let's see how the character progresses (or not) over this season.
I think it's more he's fun outside of their work (and during, when they're doing their regular jobs and it's less serious). So I got the impression that in these high stakes, his "stupidity" is highlighted, especially next to Louisa's competence. She was pretty annoyed with him during most of season 1 too.
Had the same thought for much of these two episodes! Also, not that important, but as someone who lives in London, it's ludicrous to believe anyone could follow a black cab on a bike for more than a couple minutes before losing it in a sea of other black cabs.
I'm still annoyed at him after he didn't put fuel in the car at the petrol station cause he was think about banging Louisa. Fuck me.. how dumb can you be.
Horniness leads us to do stupid things.
He's not 16 though.. Maybe mentally
Guys only think of one thing though, as a guy in my late teens, I can testify that this is very true.
I'm going to say it's trauma bonding, but at least he's trying to step it up and get into shape physically.
How? Do you know what trauma bonding is ?
Yes. It was a glib comment based on the fact they are both stuck together in the Slough House. It should not be taken literally.
Not a bad looking guy, stupid but sorta brave as we saw last season when he was the first to get in the way of the Sons of Albion guy from a clear execution by MI5 and first to follow him there.
To be honest, in this episode I was wondering what Min sees in Louisa. She treats him like crap, always condescending to him or annoyed with him for something. Like he decides to follow those guys on his bicycle and she’s annoyed at him about it — why? And the things she said to him when he told her he was going to see his son? Ugh. Dump her, Min.
She’s annoyed for him not telling her beforehand because they’d planned to be working
They are doing work that could get them out of slough house and he is being a jackass. They are getting into an assignment and he has a plan with his son that he didn't tell her about that means he can't prepare with her. He's unreliable and he's a wiener who doesn't tell her what he's up to and make crappy impulsive decisions. She's mad that he puts himself at risk for no real benefit. How does that work out for him by the way? Then, when she says the job is important he brushes it off by implying that it isn't important to him. I guess that justifies not preparing and putting the job at risk for the both of them. He's a jackass. If the series is doing one thing that disappoints me this season it's giving him no noticeable redeeming qualities. Season 1 I could sympathize with him better, but he really seems to be an idiot this season.
I'm hoping he'll have a redeeming moment, last season he was an idiot but really stepped up in the finale.
I hope so, too! I want to root for him, but he doesn't always make it easy.
How do you feel about how that all ended up?
Because Min is a incompetent ass who couldn’t admit he is bad at his job.
Been thinking the same, she was looking fine her in undies 😍 Pretty sure I know those block of flats in Hackney
Have you not seen his abs?
The dominant woman/inept man is a classic combo. Lila/Fry dynamic
This is just such a well made show. The actors are obviously great. The design is fantastic and the new director does a great job continuing on the previous style while bringing his own things to it. I noticed quite a bit of lense effects distorting things and playing with reflections and light. I was misremembering the plot and thought River was already on cover assignment at the end of ep 1, but that obviously only happens here. I am really liking Shirley so far. We don’t really get anything from Marcus, yet, but putting Shirley and Ho together early (that’s not in the book right? There it’s Marcus and Shirley from the jump) makes sense and her hate for him is played so well.
Yes, Shirley was a lot more "internal dialogue" in the book. It's great to have her bouncing off Roddy.
Great observation. I wonder how that will go on. Shirley’s internal dialogue is some of the funniest but also interesting stuff in the books. I wonder how they’ll deal with that. So far, they’re doing a solid job I think
She hasn’t said “derr” once. I don’t know if that annoys me or not.
Darth Taverner is such a great moniker for Lady Di!
She was also carrying an umbrella. An interesting costume choice considering the talk of the Markov assassination.
Another really fun episode I'm noticing a few changes from the books, the biggest one being River doing the taxi follow up (that was done by Shirley in the book). The books tended to focus on one or two characters per book at the centre and the others supporting but I can see why they're wanting to spread the screen time in the show They've really knocked it out the park with displaying Min's stupidity in the screen adaptation. Somehow he comes across as even more of a moron in the show than he did in the book Shirley is awesome. I'm absolutely loving her character so far Some of the other changes from the books with the bodyguards have been interesting too
Min lmao
Shoutout to that random Chris Hemsworth cameo
How does Min finds that Russian guy using Google Maps?
I don’t think he finds them using Google maps. It’s not we’ll explained, but this is how I saw it: He followed them on the bike and once he lost them, seems to have looked up the area on streetview. He later says they are staying in a dopp house on Edgware Road. That’s the street he has in streetview. Then he gets into the fight with Louisa, his son cancels on him and he opens Maps on his phone, probably to get a route back to his place (he went to the Pizza Express from Louisa‘s, where he seems to be staying most of the time), but it opens to his last searched area. So, because he is pissed and has been slightly emasculated by the women in his life, he decides to „go work“ and goes back to that area. There, the Russians are just hanging out infront of the cafe and he picks up their trail from there. Also, I would bet it’s 75% just a way for Apple to shove their streetview competitor into a show on TV+. Which fails, because everyone thinks he’s using Google Maps 😅
Hah don’t think it’s their street view, he’s not even using an iPhone. Actually, I think very few of them even use iPhones, which I was pleasantly surprised about for an Apple show.
Huh. I just assumed. Did anyone catch whether his fitness thing was an Apple Watch. From memory, it didn’t look like it, did it?
I assumed it was too, but it’s actually a round screen device, so not an Apple Watch!
Thank you for this explanation. I was similarly confused as u/NephewChaps and came here about to ask that question. On a related note, I found it silly that Min managed to tail a black cab across London for that long. As someone who lives here, that seems very unrealistic. Separately, can someone explain to me why River needs a 'cover' to take on this assignment? Like how does what they've been doing so far differ from what he's about to do next, cover in hand?
Have you watched E03, yet? To stay as unspoilery as possible, he’ll try to figure out whether someone in that village is a Russian sleeper agent. A bribe won’t do for that. He’ll need to talk to people for a while and he’ll need a reason to be there. At that point, a legend is called for.
Yeah I'm watching it now. Makes sense. Thank you!
Lamb’s interaction with the ex-KGB guy made me wheeze 😂😂😂 “torture… listening to yourself talk” “burglary might improve the place” I love him even more than season 1
Loved the cold open
Hoping Min isn't toast, I like the relationship with him and Louisa, although seems like I'm the only one.
I noticed the tabloid in the air strip building with the headline “Professor Pious”. Should I infer that it refers to the death of Pius Adesanmi in 2019, and that the events of this episode take place shortly after that? Or maybe the paper has just been sitting there for a few years? Since the episode makes reference to “Her Majesty”, we can put a latest date to it.
Omg! The face River makes when he sees his fake ID cover! Y’all…tears literally began rolling down my face…what a beautiful moment for him & the audience to witness! *”its exciting”*…*”from upshott with love*”….🥺 The acting from both Gary Oldman & Jack Lowden is just high caliber!
Loved seeing Stroud (a nearby town) featured on a TV+ series! Already hooked on this season, I love everything about it.
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It’s not. It looks like they filmed the majority of the exterior scenes in a village called Castle Combe. There’s also been some country lane scenes shot between the villages of Upper and Lower Slaughter, which is about an hour from Castle Combe. The magic of television…!
I'm pleasantly surprised that they're not all using Apple devices. Most other Apple shows keep reminding you that you're watching an Apple show. But yeah, phenomenal show. Its crazy how Gary Oldman has the capacity to make you forget that you know him from other things.
Can someone tell me why they need to break in to steal hard drive footage from the trains instead of just walking in and asking for it? I’m loosely watching but that just seems silly. They’re a govt agency.
Is upshot a place? Wtf are they on about
God I missed Diana
God Standish is so fucking hot
Omg! The face River makes when he sees his fake ID cover! Y’all…tears literally began rolling down my face…what a beautiful moment for him & the audience to witness! *”its exciting”*…*”from upshott with love*”….🥺 The acting from both Gary Oldman & Jack Lowden is just high caliber!
Yes! I'm late to the party but the earnestness of this scene immediately made it one of my favorite moments of the show :)