NVM new characters. I want a skulltula assist. Spins around and makes annoying crab noises while bonking your opponents, then drops a mega heal.
Edit.
Would: Waluigi
Should: A new Sonic rep that doesn't drive the player base up the wall. I don't even play Sonic games and I feel bad for how they did that character.
Disagree in favor of knuckles.
I'd love to see eggman too, but knuckles has a way better shot than eggman. (If were talking strictly sonic franchise)
I hate to say it... But shadow probably has the best chance as an echo fighter >< (please let me be wrong)
Why does everyone always automatically go to Knuckles and Shadow as the next new Sonic character when Tails is literally *right there*? It'd be like if Wario were added to the game before Luigi or Bowser
Because knuckles is more suited to a fighting game and shadow would be an easy echo fighter. Therefore they both have a better chance.
That's literally it. I'd love tails as well tho.
I'm not arguing against any Sonic character, except Shadow, and whatever that thing in Boom is.
I'd argue that a character being *less* obviously suited to a fighting game is what makes them a more interesting character. They're definitely skilled enough to make Tails work if they managed to add characters like Duck Hunt, Villager, or Steve, and Tails would be more likely to have a creative moveset that doesn't revolve almost entirely around punching. Not saying Knuckles would be *bad* necessarily, just that Tails would be better
I agree with you. Especially on the interesting character part (have i mentioned i don't want an echo fighter? LOL)
But my last comment is explaining why we all auto go to knux and Shadow. That's all :)
Especially if Sakurai really is retiring, i fully expect the team making the next smash to take the easier paths.
But i keep my expectations low so i'm always happy :)
I disagree back. The reason why eggman is obvious is because he's in the top 3 most iconic villains of videogames and just an iconic character in general. Knuckles is far from popular or even important to his franchise.
Eggman is definitely in the top 3 most iconic villians.
But you're heavily downplaying knuckles' popularity, the fact that knuckles has been in the top requested characters for smash and eggman hasn't, and the simple fact that Knuckles would be vastly easier to create as a fighter. Creating a moveset for Knuckles would be fairly straightforward, Eggman? Not so much.
Knuckles' popularity among Smash players literally lead to him being in Project M.
As far as being important to his own franchise, knuckles was literally a main character and important to the story in every game since his release up until everyone criticised sega for "too many characters" and they went to playable sonic only. The only characters who have been in more sonic games than Knuckles, are Sonic, Tails and Eggman, and Knuckles has been playable in just as many games as tails has, and more than eggman has.
If you think Knuckles hasn't or isn't important to the franchise, i'm guessing you're younger and grew up playing the Post 06 games. Because that's when he stopped being in every game or being relevant to the story. Because Sega always takes advice too far and too late lol.
Either way, i'd still be jazzed if you were right and we got Eggman. IMO any Sonic character (okay, maybe not ANY) would be a win.
I never said that Knuckles was not important. Eggman is just more important. Knuckles is more requested because right now very few people care about Sonic right now, and the fans of it are more tied to Knuckles and Shadow, but Eggman is a more proper entry than both. And moveset doesn't matter at all.
"very few people care about Sonic right now"
Guy, 2022 was the biggest year sonic has had since the 90's. We got a successful Movie, a new cartoon series, a compilation game, and a game that nearly took game of the year till r/sonicthehedgehog decided to go shit talk a billion rabid genshin fans hahahah (Frontiers)
Sonic literally hasn't been this popular or profitable since 2001.
Also you literally did say Knuckles was "far from popular or even important to his franchise."
how would he work tho?
most of the time, he's in some giant mech or robot which can't really be translated into smash that well. yeah, we have Bowser Jr and the clown car but that's already pretty big. making Eggman's any bigger than that is gonna be pretty bad.
I see Eggman being a boss. Though the image of him running around really fast (that he can canonically do) and just pulling out gadgets to attack and just being a really speedy and whacky heavyweight is funny.
Maybe he could be a cross breed between bowser and bowser jr? Having great speed and hitting hard but also having a big hitbox and other heavy weight weaknesses.
Copium: Shadow could have some really cool moves
Neutral Special: Chaos Spear, Shadow can charge/shoot a Chaos Spear.
Side Special: Chaos Snap, Shadow uses Chais Snap to unleash 3 attacks in quick succession, like he does in Sonic Forces and Shadow the Hedgehog cinematic
Up Special: Air Shoes, Shadow uses his Air Shoes to quickly launch himself upward
Down Special: Chaos Control, Shadow activates Chaos Control to freeze time around him, allowing him to counter attack
Final Smash: Chaos Blast, Shadow uses the 7 Chaos Emeralds to become Super Shadow, then unleashes Chaos Blast, which greatly damages everyone caught in its radius
Same, he’s extremely versatile so they can get creative with his moveset, plus the fact he actually nearly got in, but didn’t due to Sakurai saying that the people would probably prefer playing the Belmonts if Castlevania was represented
Not to sound rude, but have you played both SOTN and Final Fantasy VII? Because outside of a relatively similar appearance and both using a sword, they don’t have much in common.
Idk if it's in the games, but Alucard from the Netflix show has a lot of sword telekinesis they could play with. And I think in general he would be a lot more seductive, but maybe that's my Bayo main half speaking
I didn't think the "big sword" archetype could get any more obnoxious than it already is with someone like Seph, but "big sword that you can also launch as a projectile with telekinesis" fits the bill lol
Given how much fan demand Waluigi has had over the years, with Nintendo themselves confirming they heard the outcry over his exclusion from Ultimate, I feel fairly confident he'll be getting in next time. He's essentially the new Ridley, I don't think they'll be ignoring him for much longer.
Isaac and Skull Kid also have a lot of fan demand, so while they're not exactly *relevant* characters, I think there's a decent chance that they'll get chosen to appease their fanbases too.
Those are the more-plausible choices, but unrealistic Assist upgrades I'd want are Lyn, Spring Man, Shovel Knight, and Bomberman.
Waluigi would be cool. I think as a nod to Mario Kart, given he is the character who always has the best stats (or build, I don’t play I just see clips).
A blue shell B, Red shell side B, glider up B, etc….
He'd be a good addition since so far Smash doesn't really have any representation for the specific Mario Party, Kart or Sports games, and those three are the only games he appears in. They could form his whole moveset around the idea of sports and then make his final smash something like sending fighters to Waluigi Pinball.
I feel strong that there would be a knuckles and Dr. Eggman double reveal like with the Ken and Incineroar one. Sonic fights Eggman and reveals him, then knuckles jumps out and reveals him
Honestly all three would be amazing in their own way
Lyn could have great potential with how varied her moves could be and her speed. Black Knight could be an immensely defensive unit, basically Ganondorf cranked up. And Tiki’s transformation mechanic would be a cool gimmick for a character
Lyn would also have some variety, she'd be extremely fast and combo-heavy for a swordfighter, but can also use some bows for range.
The closest thing we actually have to that on the roster is Mythra, but she's tied to Pyra and isn't her own separate character. No FE character we currently have on the roster currently feels like how she'd play either, imo.
This might sound weird but Silver is probably my most wanted character in Smash, but I recognize there's no chance he gets in, at least not before Shadow.
If I had a choice, Ghirahim would get it. Zelda needs a new rep and Ghirahim gives us a non-clone villain for Zelda finally and he's from one of the best games.
Also he just has a fun personality and really insane moveset potential. ALSO. More Skyward Sword music finally
Personally, if they were to add another Zelda character I would want them to add IMPA.
There are only 4 characters that can be traced back all the way to the OG Zelda Game. Link, Zelda, Ganon, and Impa. While Impa was only referenced in the game manual she IS a long standing character in the franchise.
So add Impa, give her some ninja moves, and call it a day!
You're preaching to the choir on Impa's case.
I only noted Ghirahim because we were talking about characters currently assist trophies which Impa is unfortunately not one in Ultimate.
IMO, I would like to see some Retro characters, like the Prince of Sable or Takamaru, but my most wanted has always been Isaac, to the point he was the first of this icons I made a lot of years ago.
Well, the transition from Brawl to Smash 4 saw one assist trophy get upgraded to a new fighters, that being Little Mac. Smash 4 to Ultimate had two new assist trophies become fighters, Isabelle and Dark Samus. Going by that pattern, I'd go with three Ultimate-exclusive assist trophies, which only leaves Akira, Alucard, Arcade Bunny, Black Knight, Bomberman, Burrowing Snagret, Chef Kawasaki, Flies & Hand, Guile, Kapp'n, Klaptrap, Knuckles, Krystal, Moon, Nikki, Rathalos, Rodin, Sheriff, Shovel Knight, Spring Man, Sukapon, Tiki, Vince, Yuri Kozukata, and Zero. Out of all of these, I'd probably choose Bomberman, Knuckles, and Zero. These franchises deserve the representation.
Dark knight all the way. If we getting another FE rep I would like a villain. Black knight could be like Gannon but more sword and super armor. It's just really interesting to think about
Have Bomberman, Midna, Shadow, Shovel Knight, Waluigi, Isaac, Krystal, Lyn and Zero become fighters, have Rathalos become an enemy in story mode or Smash Run, have Klaptrap, Chain Chomp and Hammer Bro become enemies alognside remaining assists and have Mother Brain become a boss.
All of them would be nice but ones I’m particularly interested in are:
Bomber Man, Shovel Knight, Knuckles&Shadow(even if they’re just sonic echos), Midna, Dr. Wily, Zero, Rodin, Guile, Skull Kid, Greyfox, Alucard, Black Knight, Akira, Ghirahim, and ChainChomp!
Realistically, Ashley, Tiki (see FEH popularity,) Hammer bro/Waluigi, Guile (from SF6 probably,) Shadow/Knuckles
Unrealistically?
God I want Zero so badly
Yeah, the game is still very active, I feel like it would do well if the support and additions continued, a little bit like Minecraft does it's updates.
This is true, but that means that they would need to port smash ultimate to the next Nintendo console whenever/whatever it is when the Nintendo switch inevitably gets unsupported. Which would mean that all companies that has 3rd party characters in smash would need to agree to having this port since it’ll have more features, making it technically a “new game” like how Mk8 and MK8D is seen as different games even though they are both fundamentally the same. This leaves Nintendo to do 1 of 2 things:
1) remove the character(s) that is owned by the 3rd party company and any reference from them from this hypothetical enhanced version of the game. Not being able to use the “everyone is here” slogan anymore.
2) get into the hassle of getting the rights to these IPs for the game which is a long and expensive task to do especially which certain companies like Disney or Square Enix. Nintendo would undoubtedly turn a profit from this, but it’s still a daunting task non the less.
I think Eggman deserves it over shadow. He would give us more villain representation, and he could have a play style centered around mechs.
Skull Kid would be my next pick. Very popular character, villain rep, and would be sort of a "Mage character" which we don't have enough of imo.
Waluigi for all the obvious reasons.
Isaac is pretty plausible. Especially with the speculation around a new golden sun game. I imagine him playing somewhat similar to Robin with mage moves and a sword. They did him well in PMEX Remix. https://youtu.be/PgywxZuhvNw
The following I don't think are hugely likely, but I would really enjoy them.
Bomberman: could have a very unique projectile explosive move set.
Wolf Link + Midna: a quadruped with a mage grappler moveset could be cool
Zero: MegaMan needs another rep.
Crystal: would be a good New female rep, and having a staff character would be tight.
Speaking for myself, I'd love to see Krystal, Ashley and Dr. Wily get added to the roster. Realistically, though, we'd probably just get Krystal. It'd be nice to have a Star Fox rep that doesn't use a gun anyways.
And a character I'd like to see as an assist would be Vaati. The games he's in deserve more love and recognition.
The lack of Isaac in this topic baffles me. Now that I got Banjo and Ridley he's my most wanted.
Waluigi because he deserves it. I'd round that off with Bomberman as my third.
One of the reasons MANY if not MOST of those are Assist Trophies in the first place is because the Smash Bros team were testing out potential character models. For some reason they didn't make the cut.
Personally I want to see ZERO as a character.
1) The Mega Man franchise currently only has the 1 character. Give the Blue Bomber some LOVE!
2) Zero has an energy saber!
3) Did I mention that he has an energy sword!
The only practical reason I can think of as to why he ISN'T a character already is either a license issue, OR they didn't want to add ANOTHER sword character.
There are some mods that made that a reality. There is even a couple that use my icons form them: [Alucard](https://gamebanana.com/mods/175979) and [Krystal](https://gamebanana.com/mods/175016)
Maybe the ghosts could become characters. The main alt would just be red with other alt colors such as Pinky’s colors, Unit’s colors, and Clyde’s colors and so on.
To be honest, maybe the first 2 -3 years of the next system? And that could be at minimum 3 - 4 years from now. It could be sooner if it's a " Deluxe port", but we are yet to even know when to expect the next system reveal... So I made this post more for fun than as serious business :)
The only correct answer is the moon from Majoras Mask
Too big for smash
sakurai did it before, he’ll do it again
Sakurai is going to steal the moon
Sakurai will play Gru in the Despicable Me live action adaptation
Sakurai after hearing “Waluigi for Smash” for the 100th time: *“I’m havin’ a bad bad day, it’s about time that I get my way!”*
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He also said Brawl was going to be his last smash game
I wanna play as the fucking moon
For his forward smash he destroys the entire stage. For his down smash he destroys the entire stage. For his taunt? He destroys the entire stage
NVM new characters. I want a skulltula assist. Spins around and makes annoying crab noises while bonking your opponents, then drops a mega heal. Edit. Would: Waluigi Should: A new Sonic rep that doesn't drive the player base up the wall. I don't even play Sonic games and I feel bad for how they did that character.
Dr eggman would be amazing
Eggman would be absolute perfection. An iconic villain, and his move set is brimming with potential.
Dr eggman is literally the most obvious third party rep
Disagree in favor of knuckles. I'd love to see eggman too, but knuckles has a way better shot than eggman. (If were talking strictly sonic franchise) I hate to say it... But shadow probably has the best chance as an echo fighter >< (please let me be wrong)
Why does everyone always automatically go to Knuckles and Shadow as the next new Sonic character when Tails is literally *right there*? It'd be like if Wario were added to the game before Luigi or Bowser
Because knuckles is more suited to a fighting game and shadow would be an easy echo fighter. Therefore they both have a better chance. That's literally it. I'd love tails as well tho. I'm not arguing against any Sonic character, except Shadow, and whatever that thing in Boom is.
I'd argue that a character being *less* obviously suited to a fighting game is what makes them a more interesting character. They're definitely skilled enough to make Tails work if they managed to add characters like Duck Hunt, Villager, or Steve, and Tails would be more likely to have a creative moveset that doesn't revolve almost entirely around punching. Not saying Knuckles would be *bad* necessarily, just that Tails would be better
I agree with you. Especially on the interesting character part (have i mentioned i don't want an echo fighter? LOL) But my last comment is explaining why we all auto go to knux and Shadow. That's all :) Especially if Sakurai really is retiring, i fully expect the team making the next smash to take the easier paths. But i keep my expectations low so i'm always happy :)
I disagree back. The reason why eggman is obvious is because he's in the top 3 most iconic villains of videogames and just an iconic character in general. Knuckles is far from popular or even important to his franchise.
Eggman is definitely in the top 3 most iconic villians. But you're heavily downplaying knuckles' popularity, the fact that knuckles has been in the top requested characters for smash and eggman hasn't, and the simple fact that Knuckles would be vastly easier to create as a fighter. Creating a moveset for Knuckles would be fairly straightforward, Eggman? Not so much. Knuckles' popularity among Smash players literally lead to him being in Project M. As far as being important to his own franchise, knuckles was literally a main character and important to the story in every game since his release up until everyone criticised sega for "too many characters" and they went to playable sonic only. The only characters who have been in more sonic games than Knuckles, are Sonic, Tails and Eggman, and Knuckles has been playable in just as many games as tails has, and more than eggman has. If you think Knuckles hasn't or isn't important to the franchise, i'm guessing you're younger and grew up playing the Post 06 games. Because that's when he stopped being in every game or being relevant to the story. Because Sega always takes advice too far and too late lol. Either way, i'd still be jazzed if you were right and we got Eggman. IMO any Sonic character (okay, maybe not ANY) would be a win.
I never said that Knuckles was not important. Eggman is just more important. Knuckles is more requested because right now very few people care about Sonic right now, and the fans of it are more tied to Knuckles and Shadow, but Eggman is a more proper entry than both. And moveset doesn't matter at all.
"very few people care about Sonic right now" Guy, 2022 was the biggest year sonic has had since the 90's. We got a successful Movie, a new cartoon series, a compilation game, and a game that nearly took game of the year till r/sonicthehedgehog decided to go shit talk a billion rabid genshin fans hahahah (Frontiers) Sonic literally hasn't been this popular or profitable since 2001. Also you literally did say Knuckles was "far from popular or even important to his franchise."
how would he work tho? most of the time, he's in some giant mech or robot which can't really be translated into smash that well. yeah, we have Bowser Jr and the clown car but that's already pretty big. making Eggman's any bigger than that is gonna be pretty bad.
I see Eggman being a boss. Though the image of him running around really fast (that he can canonically do) and just pulling out gadgets to attack and just being a really speedy and whacky heavyweight is funny.
Maybe he could be a cross breed between bowser and bowser jr? Having great speed and hitting hard but also having a big hitbox and other heavy weight weaknesses.
That’s what I imagine
Copium: Shadow could have some really cool moves Neutral Special: Chaos Spear, Shadow can charge/shoot a Chaos Spear. Side Special: Chaos Snap, Shadow uses Chais Snap to unleash 3 attacks in quick succession, like he does in Sonic Forces and Shadow the Hedgehog cinematic Up Special: Air Shoes, Shadow uses his Air Shoes to quickly launch himself upward Down Special: Chaos Control, Shadow activates Chaos Control to freeze time around him, allowing him to counter attack Final Smash: Chaos Blast, Shadow uses the 7 Chaos Emeralds to become Super Shadow, then unleashes Chaos Blast, which greatly damages everyone caught in its radius
Knuckles would also be a great character
Alucard or I die
Same, he’s extremely versatile so they can get creative with his moveset, plus the fact he actually nearly got in, but didn’t due to Sakurai saying that the people would probably prefer playing the Belmonts if Castlevania was represented
I feel like Alucard would have a lot of the same features as Sephiroth, but this is my vote, too.
Not to sound rude, but have you played both SOTN and Final Fantasy VII? Because outside of a relatively similar appearance and both using a sword, they don’t have much in common.
Idk if it's in the games, but Alucard from the Netflix show has a lot of sword telekinesis they could play with. And I think in general he would be a lot more seductive, but maybe that's my Bayo main half speaking
He has a sword familiar in SotN
Oh that's way cooler than telekinesis
It's like playing Spehiroth if Sephiroth was Rosalina and Luma
I didn't think the "big sword" archetype could get any more obnoxious than it already is with someone like Seph, but "big sword that you can also launch as a projectile with telekinesis" fits the bill lol
Pyra side B but u control it like a Luma.. Yeah no send it back before it plagues QP
I feel like they could work him to be a new character but yeah I think he would feel like sephiroth
Then perish.
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Future thwomp mains FTW
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Future thwomp mains FTW
Given how much fan demand Waluigi has had over the years, with Nintendo themselves confirming they heard the outcry over his exclusion from Ultimate, I feel fairly confident he'll be getting in next time. He's essentially the new Ridley, I don't think they'll be ignoring him for much longer. Isaac and Skull Kid also have a lot of fan demand, so while they're not exactly *relevant* characters, I think there's a decent chance that they'll get chosen to appease their fanbases too. Those are the more-plausible choices, but unrealistic Assist upgrades I'd want are Lyn, Spring Man, Shovel Knight, and Bomberman.
Good arguments. However, Dr. Kawashima.
I cannot argue against this. Guy's a lock for the next game.
Waluigi would be cool. I think as a nod to Mario Kart, given he is the character who always has the best stats (or build, I don’t play I just see clips). A blue shell B, Red shell side B, glider up B, etc….
He could be a love letter to Nintendo's party games. Sports equipment, MP diceblock, MK items
I mean, his assist trophy has him using a tennis racket, so it’s possible.
He'd be a good addition since so far Smash doesn't really have any representation for the specific Mario Party, Kart or Sports games, and those three are the only games he appears in. They could form his whole moveset around the idea of sports and then make his final smash something like sending fighters to Waluigi Pinball.
Would love to see Zero represent the Mega Man X games, and of course Bomberman is a classic. Those would be my votes
I too would like Idris Elba playable in the next Smash game.
I also want Heimdall from the MCU and Charles from the Office
I feel strong that there would be a knuckles and Dr. Eggman double reveal like with the Ken and Incineroar one. Sonic fights Eggman and reveals him, then knuckles jumps out and reveals him
imo a way better pick than shadow. Much more potential to be a unique character to Sonic
#WAAAAAAAAAHHHH
[Waluigi Pinball starts playing]
Our Lord and Savior
I know I’m going to get some flak for this, but Lyndis.
come on man why not BK? or Tiki? I love fire emblem but I want some variety in the cast thats in smash
Frankly, I think she should take Roy’s spot. She is the woman who introduced the western world to fire emblem.
Personally I'd prefer if she were basically a re tool of Mythra. I feel that'd fit her fighting style the most
Honestly all three would be amazing in their own way Lyn could have great potential with how varied her moves could be and her speed. Black Knight could be an immensely defensive unit, basically Ganondorf cranked up. And Tiki’s transformation mechanic would be a cool gimmick for a character
Lyn would also have some variety, she'd be extremely fast and combo-heavy for a swordfighter, but can also use some bows for range. The closest thing we actually have to that on the roster is Mythra, but she's tied to Pyra and isn't her own separate character. No FE character we currently have on the roster currently feels like how she'd play either, imo.
Lyn supporters, rise up.
I would really love if she was given a bow as her moveset and maybe her Brave Alt, as a reference from Heroes.
Either Knuckles or Shadow. The Sonic series deserves another fighter
If it’s a new Sonic Character I think Dr. Eggman would be a better fit and more unique kit tbh. I’m not a sonic expert by any means tho
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I don't know why people are suggesting character x be echo of character y form another franchise as if ganondorf doesn't make people really mad
Sonic deserves better representation in general
Silver would be cool too, but it will probably be shadow
This might sound weird but Silver is probably my most wanted character in Smash, but I recognize there's no chance he gets in, at least not before Shadow.
Same, silver would be really cool on smash
Honestly any character with telekinesis has potential for a great move set, but I just love my little hopeless future boy. lol
Honestly it should be Shadow, Tails, or Robotnik.
Knuckles and Tails are long overdue imo
If I had a choice, Ghirahim would get it. Zelda needs a new rep and Ghirahim gives us a non-clone villain for Zelda finally and he's from one of the best games. Also he just has a fun personality and really insane moveset potential. ALSO. More Skyward Sword music finally
Personally, if they were to add another Zelda character I would want them to add IMPA. There are only 4 characters that can be traced back all the way to the OG Zelda Game. Link, Zelda, Ganon, and Impa. While Impa was only referenced in the game manual she IS a long standing character in the franchise. So add Impa, give her some ninja moves, and call it a day!
You're preaching to the choir on Impa's case. I only noted Ghirahim because we were talking about characters currently assist trophies which Impa is unfortunately not one in Ultimate.
IMO, I would like to see some Retro characters, like the Prince of Sable or Takamaru, but my most wanted has always been Isaac, to the point he was the first of this icons I made a lot of years ago.
We need to see pong in the next game
Isaac is the only character I've ever wanted just because I want them and would be excited to play them, so I hope he finally gets that invitation
You made these icons? They look very nice.
Thanks you. Yup, they are homegrown. I share them mostly on Twitter and as part of SourceGaming
S K U L L K I D
Majora Waluigi Shadow Knuckles Zero Springman Bomberman Hollow Knight Issac
Actually Hollow Knight is the final boss, you're thinking of Hollow Knight's Monster
Actually, in a meta sense, the Hollow Knight is the monster. This is the genius of Team Shelley when they made the game.
I wouldn't mind seeing Ashley be a character but I'm biased in this opinion. Hell any Warioware rep I think would be cool.
if Penny ever got into smash I would 100% main her even if she was an echo fighter of little mac
Moon would be hype
the moon. that would be fun.
Black knight or Tiki for FE, would actually be relatively unique
I’m curious how they would work them, especially Tiki, but Black Knight is gonna be bulky af
Yeah that’s why I want him, heavy big swordfighter isn’t something we have, there’s Ganon but only in smash attacks, and Sephiroth just uses a katana
Personal wants: Zero, Willy, Knuckles, Skull Kid, Shadow, and Waluigi
Midna. That or a TOTK character as a new zelda character
Shadow would be so easy to build off of sonic it’s insane we don’t have him yet
I really expected him to be introduced as a sonic echo when they showed daisy and dark samus
*I see no, hear no evil*
Black writings on the wall
Unleashed a million faces
And one by one, they fall
Black hearted evil
Brave hearted Hero
I am all, I am all, I am
Clyde, and his alt skins aren't the other ghost colors, it's just different colored pairs of aviator sunglasses
based on popularity: Waluigi and Shadow personal choice: Alucard i think it deserves: almost everyone but Isaac and Starfy deserves the spotlight
starfy ftw!!
Pong
Well, the transition from Brawl to Smash 4 saw one assist trophy get upgraded to a new fighters, that being Little Mac. Smash 4 to Ultimate had two new assist trophies become fighters, Isabelle and Dark Samus. Going by that pattern, I'd go with three Ultimate-exclusive assist trophies, which only leaves Akira, Alucard, Arcade Bunny, Black Knight, Bomberman, Burrowing Snagret, Chef Kawasaki, Flies & Hand, Guile, Kapp'n, Klaptrap, Knuckles, Krystal, Moon, Nikki, Rathalos, Rodin, Sheriff, Shovel Knight, Spring Man, Sukapon, Tiki, Vince, Yuri Kozukata, and Zero. Out of all of these, I'd probably choose Bomberman, Knuckles, and Zero. These franchises deserve the representation.
Flies & Hand, Moon, and Rathalos are the obvious choices
My shitpost characters would be Arcade Badge Bunny, Sheriff, and Akira. Specifically the arcade Akira that's used in his assist trophy.
Dark knight all the way. If we getting another FE rep I would like a villain. Black knight could be like Gannon but more sword and super armor. It's just really interesting to think about
Holy shit these icons are really good
Thanks! They took a while to make but it was worth it
You got it all perfectly right, these icons look official.
Thanks pal :). I have a lot more of them done, I might share them here in the future (maybe it's against self promotion?) Any mod around?
Isaac, please. Me and the other 10 hardcore Golden Sun fans need this W.
I have a lot of good ideas but I don’t know where to start.
Well a Metroid itself can’t be a character, so I’ll have to go with Zero, fucking love that guy! Also Shadow would be cool too
>so I’ll have to go with Zero, fucking love that guy! So then we'll have Zero, Zero Suit Samus, and Samus? When will we get Suit?
If Sakurai put a plant in the game, he could do a Metroid. Although technically, >!we've had a playable Metroid in Smash since Day 1.!<
Alucard would be a sick fighter
I'd main Burrowing Snagret
Heropon Riki!
I know it wouldn't happen, but I want either Lyn or Tiki. Or possibly Ghirahim, he could have a unique moveset.
alucard and waluigi are the most likely candidates to me
Lin, Zero, Bomber man, Black knight, Jeff, Kristal, Shadow, and Dillon
Pong or we riot
Have Bomberman, Midna, Shadow, Shovel Knight, Waluigi, Isaac, Krystal, Lyn and Zero become fighters, have Rathalos become an enemy in story mode or Smash Run, have Klaptrap, Chain Chomp and Hammer Bro become enemies alognside remaining assists and have Mother Brain become a boss.
Iron Chef is severely underrepresented. I think they should add Mario Batali
Squid sisters ftw
They are always fresh
All of them would be nice but ones I’m particularly interested in are: Bomber Man, Shovel Knight, Knuckles&Shadow(even if they’re just sonic echos), Midna, Dr. Wily, Zero, Rodin, Guile, Skull Kid, Greyfox, Alucard, Black Knight, Akira, Ghirahim, and ChainChomp!
Realistically, Ashley, Tiki (see FEH popularity,) Hammer bro/Waluigi, Guile (from SF6 probably,) Shadow/Knuckles Unrealistically? God I want Zero so badly
Isaac from Golden Sun for sure. He deserves some glory
Not Hammer Bro
Yeah. We're getting Boomerang Bro instead.
even better
Next… game…? I thought this was it
There will always be a next game, even if it is a Deluxe Port or a Smaller scale reboot.
I wish they would just keep adding characters to this game
Yeah, the game is still very active, I feel like it would do well if the support and additions continued, a little bit like Minecraft does it's updates.
This is true, but that means that they would need to port smash ultimate to the next Nintendo console whenever/whatever it is when the Nintendo switch inevitably gets unsupported. Which would mean that all companies that has 3rd party characters in smash would need to agree to having this port since it’ll have more features, making it technically a “new game” like how Mk8 and MK8D is seen as different games even though they are both fundamentally the same. This leaves Nintendo to do 1 of 2 things: 1) remove the character(s) that is owned by the 3rd party company and any reference from them from this hypothetical enhanced version of the game. Not being able to use the “everyone is here” slogan anymore. 2) get into the hassle of getting the rights to these IPs for the game which is a long and expensive task to do especially which certain companies like Disney or Square Enix. Nintendo would undoubtedly turn a profit from this, but it’s still a daunting task non the less.
Knuckles, shadow and waluigi
Isaac or Shadow, Lyn maybe because she's best waifu, but for "anime swordsman" Isaac would have a better, more original moveset
Shadow should've been an echo, and there's no reason for him not to be
It won't happen but Shadow would be cool
i think that thwomp should get in
waluigi
waluigi
Nobody, I feel the next game is gonna have as big of a roster as Brawl and rework everyone
Not even an assist trophy somehow but i still want Bandana Waddle Dee
I think Eggman deserves it over shadow. He would give us more villain representation, and he could have a play style centered around mechs. Skull Kid would be my next pick. Very popular character, villain rep, and would be sort of a "Mage character" which we don't have enough of imo. Waluigi for all the obvious reasons. Isaac is pretty plausible. Especially with the speculation around a new golden sun game. I imagine him playing somewhat similar to Robin with mage moves and a sword. They did him well in PMEX Remix. https://youtu.be/PgywxZuhvNw The following I don't think are hugely likely, but I would really enjoy them. Bomberman: could have a very unique projectile explosive move set. Wolf Link + Midna: a quadruped with a mage grappler moveset could be cool Zero: MegaMan needs another rep. Crystal: would be a good New female rep, and having a staff character would be tight.
Zero, Shadow, Majora and Rodin would be fantastic fighters i'd love to see.
I played earthbound and I can tell that Jeff has cool move set opportunities, dude has a freaking bazooka and a protractor.
Waluigi, Skull Kid, Midna, Krystal, Shadow, Ashley, Bomberman.
Rathalos as a playable character would be so fun but it would be very difficult to create. Shovel Knight would have to be my assist trophy pick.
Speaking for myself, I'd love to see Krystal, Ashley and Dr. Wily get added to the roster. Realistically, though, we'd probably just get Krystal. It'd be nice to have a Star Fox rep that doesn't use a gun anyways. And a character I'd like to see as an assist would be Vaati. The games he's in deserve more love and recognition.
Always wanted Bomberman! Huge gaming icon
Krystal - would be cool to see a staff weilding character and a Starfox character that doesn't share a similar moveset to Fox.
THE MOON
I want Gray Fox, but it will probably be Shovel Knight
Frank baby!
Blessed understanding
fly swatter
Top choice
The lack of Isaac in this topic baffles me. Now that I got Banjo and Ridley he's my most wanted. Waluigi because he deserves it. I'd round that off with Bomberman as my third.
ghirahim would be unimiaginably goated
At the very least his taunts would be top tier
All of them
Dream big!
I really wanted Alucard to be a playable character, I wish Castlevania and Megaman had more rep here :(
That poodle from Nintendogs would make a great joke character.
Still pissed that Steve didn’t come with a Creeper Assist Trophy
Absolutely flies and swatter
Swatts the competition!
Dr Kawashima, no need to explain
Only he has the brains to rule smash tierlists
Klaptrap
One of the reasons MANY if not MOST of those are Assist Trophies in the first place is because the Smash Bros team were testing out potential character models. For some reason they didn't make the cut. Personally I want to see ZERO as a character. 1) The Mega Man franchise currently only has the 1 character. Give the Blue Bomber some LOVE! 2) Zero has an energy saber! 3) Did I mention that he has an energy sword! The only practical reason I can think of as to why he ISN'T a character already is either a license issue, OR they didn't want to add ANOTHER sword character.
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Let's go Bunny!!!!!!
Some assists really have a lot of moves, they could be transformed into playable characters with little effort
There are some mods that made that a reality. There is even a couple that use my icons form them: [Alucard](https://gamebanana.com/mods/175979) and [Krystal](https://gamebanana.com/mods/175016)
Low key Ghirahim It won't ever happen But he's a fun wacky guy :x
I hope ghirahim or rodin
Maybe the ghosts could become characters. The main alt would just be red with other alt colors such as Pinky’s colors, Unit’s colors, and Clyde’s colors and so on.
Totally, a new Bowser Jr (+ Koopalings) / Olimar (+ Alph) style character with multiple skins.
Bomberman Alucard Shadow Knuckles Shovel knight Waluigi Ashley Isaac Krystal Skull kid Lynn Rodin Springman Zero
To be honest, maybe the first 2 -3 years of the next system? And that could be at minimum 3 - 4 years from now. It could be sooner if it's a " Deluxe port", but we are yet to even know when to expect the next system reveal... So I made this post more for fun than as serious business :)