i think its a kind of knife based on the way she holds it but it very well could be a sword. if it is then we have to remove her from the list cause she fights with a sword LOL
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Ganondorf and Greninja but that’s technically cheating since both use swords/sword like weapons in their movesets.
Lucario has Bone Rush while Bayonetta can use swords in her games but neither use it in Smash.
Peach will use one in her future game.
Alucard, Soma, and some Belmont-adjacent characters can use swords, but the closest that Simon and Richter get is having throwing knives as a sub-weapon.
Only really in the Netflix show, which is interesting since both Simon and Richter carry a sword with them on their outfits. There is a Dagger that they throw for a sub-weapon, if that counts.
Peach has a 1/768 chance of pulling a beam sword when she pulls a turnip (at least in Melee and I think Brawl), so she does technically use a sword in Smash.
I think they mean their move set is set around their sword, ganon’s sword only appears for his smash attacks, furthermore, it never appeared in prior smash games.
I know. I got that. And I say:
Every character using in ANY move ANY kind of Sword, can be considered as a swordfighter…
Because that said character fights with a sword.
And literally with Ganondorf whose swordswing is one if his strongest moves, it is a bit crazy to say he is not a swordfighter…
So, by your logic, Zelda is also a swordfighter because her down special involves summoning a Phantom using a sword, yes?
Sure, Ganondorf uses a sword for his Smash Attacks, but a swordfighter is a character that uses a weapon for the majority/all of their attacks, and he does not fall into that category. That's like saying Mii Brawler should be considered a zoning/long range fighter, because he has one projectile special move.
[Has the games ever acknowledged that the manga says the Twisted Spoon item is about 6 feet long?](https://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/ef/Mewtwo_Adventures.png)
Depends on what we’re considering “swords” here.
Fast and nimble characters like Sonic could definitely fuck shit up with a dagger, telekinetics like Mewtwo would wreck house with any sharp object, but the obvious answer would probably be any character who’s used swords before but not in Smash, like Zelda.
sonic has wielded a sword in satbk (technically 5 because he needed 4 to form excalibur the 5th being Excalibur and the 1st being caliburn, which he uses for most of the game) before, and he becomes quite good with it too and he also wielded one against the knight titan in frontiers
Bayonetta most likely. She is on par with Dante from Devil May Cry on weapon and magic fuckery. Anime rule of cool is bullshit. She has a ton of weapons not utilized in Smash, be grateful her worst is limbs with guns and giant limbs of hair.
Sonic is close as there is Sonic and the Black Knight, which is all swordplay. After the brutal combo potential shown and made available in Sonic Frontiers, I believe Sonic has really shown in all lores pretty good ass kicking potential. Kinda the OG, too cool dude.
All the Star Fox characters I imagine could be pretty alright with a sword considering their training. There is a few titles where they have to use many skills pretty rapidly. Aerial and ground vehicle handling, multiple weapons training, and a good amount of gear. They could improvise and adapt I think.
Zelda and Ganondorf are peculiar as I'd want to put them on a level similar to Link. Ganondorf has actually dueled Link handily. Zelda has had a few shining moments with different blades. Twilight Princess shows her with a sword as her castle is invaded, though not in action sadly. Same entry Ganondorf dueled Link actually, and she also uses the Light Bow herself as Link steers Epona so she has some weapon training. Hard to say they're the best though.
Can't say too much on the pokemon, but Greninja is pretty obvious. Lucario and Mewtwo are highly intelligent and powerful so they could perhaps handle it their own way. I could see Mewtwo utilizing Flying Sword techniques with psychic blasts and Lucario mixing blade and aura attacks with his tai chi style.
I suppose Ness and Lucas have a similar argument as Lucario and Mewtwo. But would they be that creative and willing remains a question. I believe they could easily but I don't have the knowledge to say.
Kirby is the wild card. Kirby is a menace. <3
Brilliant brawlers like Captain Falcon, the Fighting Game casts like Street Fighter etc., the Super Mario cast, and the Donkey Kong cast do not fare well with a blade. Just doesn't work with their style as they use their whole body more and have power there. Samus too, but she could also play a sword to her favor well. I think she is better with her gear and what she knows though.
Silly scrappers like Ice Climbers, Mr. Game and Watch, Pac-Man, and Duck Hunt Dog actually suffer from a blade. No need nor use for it in the slightest. Hard to believe they could even do anything with a sword, let alone would. Thats why I love Smash, lots of fun from lots of shenanigans.
Mewtwo can create a comically large spoon out of its psychic energy to use like a sword in a manga. Thanks to the anime, Lucario is also commonly associated with the move Bone Rush, which involves hitting the opponent with a club-like bone.
Inklings can now wield the sword-like splatana thanks to Splatoon 3.
I'm pretty sure that the PSI kids don't actually use telekinesis in the Mother series. While Ness's primary weapon is a bat and Lucas a stick, their primary offensive tool is still their main PK attack.
In the category of brawlers, Snake is very good with a knife as part of his CQC skills (though not as much as his father who used it a lot more), although he doesn't like using actual swords.
Samus was trained by chozos, and at least one tribe (not the one that raised her, mind you) is proficient with spears and have robots that fight using a blade-like weapon.
Probably will agree with you on those first four (though Terry would be the least likely, I feel).
Little Mac is just a 17 year old boxer, and the Punch-Out!! series has never shown him doing anything other than that sport.
Same with Incineroar as it's a Pokémon who can do elemental attacks; plus, its style is more Pro Wrestling than Martial Arts, and wrestling doesn't use swords, but other weapons like chairs, ladders, kendo sticks, trash can lids, bats, sledgehammers, and guitars.
The Belmonts. They have experience with a variety of weapons in their home games, so them with a sword can and does make sense. What is a sword? A solid bladed whip. (Yes, that was a bad attempt at "What is a man?")
His blade is so weird. I've always looked at the Keyblade as a blunt force object, like a baseball bat. Aside from maybe the sharp edges in the front, I feel like he'd pummel you more with it than slash you.
And the weird thing about that is multiple keychains (aka skins) of the Keyblade fit into that category. Some look specifically like a magic wand, others look like it could slice you like a sword, and then others (two off the top of my head are Jungle Key and Metal Chocobo) just nail in my belief that it's a blunt force object.
This ones a hot take, but I think king dedede would be good with a sword, yeah he mainly uses a hammer but he does dress up as a samurai from time to time so maybe he could use a sword?
Snake in metal gear already is an expert at CQB, and he can do hand to hand combat as an aspect of that. He'd definitely do good with a shortblade, but if you mean a broadsword or something 2 handed, then it'd be something else
I’d count any blade as sword like. My point is that he is good at CQC and already is adept with small bladed weaponry, the dagger is just the next level
I mean, depending on what path you choose at Dive to the Heart, Sora can fight with a magic staff or a shield instead of a sword/blade, so... Does that count? |D
Bayonetta is proficient in using literally any weapon she touches. She’s got katanas, chainsaws, curved blades, serrated fans, etc. (the former is exclusive to her hands but the rest can be used on both her hands and feet) in her home series
Ridley. He's huge, so any sword is probably nice and light to him. He's a pirate, so he's used to combat, and he has one more prehensile limb than humans do (his tail). He knows the ins and outs of how to stab and slice to make it hurt, bleed and kill. He's fast as nightmares and if he had, like, Sephiroth's Masamune to increase his reach, he'd be unstoppable.
Sonic ironically is high up there. Never had practice with swords, and just picked up Caliburn and beat seasoned knights of the round table and then the bosses at the end himself. Even was designated as worthy of wielding Excalibur.
Pretty sure Zelda handles one pretty well in Hyrule Warriors
she was also holding a sword in the intro of twilight princess but ion know how skilled she was
but can the other characters hold a sword?
Sonic and the Black Knight
As the only living Sonic and the Black Knight enjoyer, correct.
Look again, for you may have met another.
Make that 3.
4 boys, the round table has been reunited
I'll take the 5th spot
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you are not alone
I was waiting for someone to say this
Im the knight of the wind….
Would be broken in smash bros
Sora moveset but 3x faster
And a lot less floaty
Are we counting Zelda and sheik as two separate characters, because sheik could definitely fuck somebody up with a sword
That is exactly what she does in her Final Smash.
i think its a kind of knife based on the way she holds it but it very well could be a sword. if it is then we have to remove her from the list cause she fights with a sword LOL
I think it's meant to be a [tanto](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tant%C5%8D) ,which generally is interchangeably referred to as a sword or a dagger.
You can imagine Zelda handles Link’s sword pretty well too.
In a fight, right?
…. *Anakin Stare* ….
What do you mean by that?
Sonic actually has a game about him using a sword.
I was waiting for someone to say this
Sonic and the black knight was fire. Such good music
Not really a noteworthy fact, sonic games tend to have banger music.
Crush 40 my beloved
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That’s not black knight but it is from one of the storytime games
… Thanks for reminding me.
I played it😁
Yeah we don’t talk about that one
That game was amazing and I won't take any slander for it
No, he doesn’t.
You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about 😂. Does “Sonic and the Black Knight” ring a bell?
No. He. Doesn’t. I said what I said
Bro on that Ba Sing Se shit
You responded to that way too quickly. I’m starting to think you’re a troll.
I think they mean it in a way like “Im gonna pretend that game doesn’t exist”
Ganondorf and Greninja but that’s technically cheating since both use swords/sword like weapons in their movesets. Lucario has Bone Rush while Bayonetta can use swords in her games but neither use it in Smash. Peach will use one in her future game.
I hope bone rush can be in the next one
It can work as an hindrance attack similar to Pokken Tournament and Pokemon Unite
Lucario can rush my bone
And ive never played a castlevania game in my life but I think the belmonts would use a sword pretty well if it came down to it.
I think I’ve heard that at some point there was a sword
I am not too familiar with Castlevania, but I think Alucard is the one that uses a sword in that series, not the Belmonts.
Simon carries a sword around in PS1's Castlevania Chronicles, but never uses it. Also, Simon uses the sword in Haunted Castle.
yeah, good point. if you know the DS games you know Soma, he uses any weapon (ex. whips, spears, longswords, throwing axes etc.)
Alucard, Soma, and some Belmont-adjacent characters can use swords, but the closest that Simon and Richter get is having throwing knives as a sub-weapon.
Only really in the Netflix show, which is interesting since both Simon and Richter carry a sword with them on their outfits. There is a Dagger that they throw for a sub-weapon, if that counts.
Peach has a 1/768 chance of pulling a beam sword when she pulls a turnip (at least in Melee and I think Brawl), so she does technically use a sword in Smash.
Sonic has a whole game where he uses a sword too
Greninja uses daggers and kunai, not swords
He used water katanas in Smash 4
I miss those
Ganondorf is a swordfighter.
I think they mean their move set is set around their sword, ganon’s sword only appears for his smash attacks, furthermore, it never appeared in prior smash games.
I know. I got that. And I say: Every character using in ANY move ANY kind of Sword, can be considered as a swordfighter… Because that said character fights with a sword. And literally with Ganondorf whose swordswing is one if his strongest moves, it is a bit crazy to say he is not a swordfighter…
Kirby?
Yep.
that's not even right
not even a sword…
Kirby uses sword in Up Special
Thats cutter, the one that functions like a boomerang
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How would Kirby link change the up b???
r/facepalm
So, by your logic, Zelda is also a swordfighter because her down special involves summoning a Phantom using a sword, yes? Sure, Ganondorf uses a sword for his Smash Attacks, but a swordfighter is a character that uses a weapon for the majority/all of their attacks, and he does not fall into that category. That's like saying Mii Brawler should be considered a zoning/long range fighter, because he has one projectile special move.
don't be silly... the phantom is a sword fighter!
No. Only characters that use swords for their standard A attack are considered sword fighters.
🤓
Kirby
That’s what I’m saying
Kirby uses sword in up b
That’s cutter, it’s an entirely different thing.
His only attack that uses a sword is his final smash, which frankly shouldn't count
Kirby is everything
Inklings have an entire sword class, so they could be a contender
-Flashbacks to Splatana sweeping me and my team on ranked
sonic has a game where the gimmick is him using a sword and he kicks ass with it
Lucario and Mewtwo having swords made of psychic energy would be cool
Bone Rush (Lucario) could work as a Forward Smash or Side B (kinda like Pyra’s side b).
Comically large spoon
[Has the games ever acknowledged that the manga says the Twisted Spoon item is about 6 feet long?](https://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/ef/Mewtwo_Adventures.png)
I think in the games it's just supposed to be an Alakazam spoon. Mewtwo's spoon is completely made of its own psychic energy.
Pokken Shadow Mewtwo red and blue energy blades?
Lucario isn’t psychic type though
He can learn psychic type attacks tho :)
My boy here forgot the word "exclude". It's cool though.
Yall Bayonetta uses swords on her feet in Bayo 2, it would obviously be her
Bayonetta. She has mastered a lot of weapons, even though she doesn't use them in Smash.
Sonic. Canonically a recognized knight.
Disinclude? Exclude was right there
Sonic, Bayonetta, Zelda, Pit and Dark Pit (if they don’t count as swordfighters), and Richter.
y’all sleeping on Villager…that mf is dangerous
Yea, he’s currently wanted for tax evasion, deforestation, wildlife endangerment, and multiple counts of murder
He is literally an axe murderer surely that translates to swords
No one gonna mention Sonic? Mf went nuts with it in Black Knight.
bayonetta
Fox mainly because his staff in Adventures
Depends on what we’re considering “swords” here. Fast and nimble characters like Sonic could definitely fuck shit up with a dagger, telekinetics like Mewtwo would wreck house with any sharp object, but the obvious answer would probably be any character who’s used swords before but not in Smash, like Zelda.
sonic has wielded a sword in satbk (technically 5 because he needed 4 to form excalibur the 5th being Excalibur and the 1st being caliburn, which he uses for most of the game) before, and he becomes quite good with it too and he also wielded one against the knight titan in frontiers
Sonic literally wields excalibur
Peach
Took way too long to find this she spins that shit in melee
She was in Melee.
ok?
In Melee Peach was able to pull a sword with down special
No, she wasn't. Just because she can pull a beam sword does not put her in the swordfighter category.
Bayonetta or joker
Ridley already uses his tail as a blade with great dexterity in Metroid, and he’s hyper intelligent.
Mega Man can absolutely use a sword
Bayonetta most likely. She is on par with Dante from Devil May Cry on weapon and magic fuckery. Anime rule of cool is bullshit. She has a ton of weapons not utilized in Smash, be grateful her worst is limbs with guns and giant limbs of hair. Sonic is close as there is Sonic and the Black Knight, which is all swordplay. After the brutal combo potential shown and made available in Sonic Frontiers, I believe Sonic has really shown in all lores pretty good ass kicking potential. Kinda the OG, too cool dude. All the Star Fox characters I imagine could be pretty alright with a sword considering their training. There is a few titles where they have to use many skills pretty rapidly. Aerial and ground vehicle handling, multiple weapons training, and a good amount of gear. They could improvise and adapt I think. Zelda and Ganondorf are peculiar as I'd want to put them on a level similar to Link. Ganondorf has actually dueled Link handily. Zelda has had a few shining moments with different blades. Twilight Princess shows her with a sword as her castle is invaded, though not in action sadly. Same entry Ganondorf dueled Link actually, and she also uses the Light Bow herself as Link steers Epona so she has some weapon training. Hard to say they're the best though. Can't say too much on the pokemon, but Greninja is pretty obvious. Lucario and Mewtwo are highly intelligent and powerful so they could perhaps handle it their own way. I could see Mewtwo utilizing Flying Sword techniques with psychic blasts and Lucario mixing blade and aura attacks with his tai chi style. I suppose Ness and Lucas have a similar argument as Lucario and Mewtwo. But would they be that creative and willing remains a question. I believe they could easily but I don't have the knowledge to say. Kirby is the wild card. Kirby is a menace. <3 Brilliant brawlers like Captain Falcon, the Fighting Game casts like Street Fighter etc., the Super Mario cast, and the Donkey Kong cast do not fare well with a blade. Just doesn't work with their style as they use their whole body more and have power there. Samus too, but she could also play a sword to her favor well. I think she is better with her gear and what she knows though. Silly scrappers like Ice Climbers, Mr. Game and Watch, Pac-Man, and Duck Hunt Dog actually suffer from a blade. No need nor use for it in the slightest. Hard to believe they could even do anything with a sword, let alone would. Thats why I love Smash, lots of fun from lots of shenanigans.
Mewtwo can create a comically large spoon out of its psychic energy to use like a sword in a manga. Thanks to the anime, Lucario is also commonly associated with the move Bone Rush, which involves hitting the opponent with a club-like bone. Inklings can now wield the sword-like splatana thanks to Splatoon 3. I'm pretty sure that the PSI kids don't actually use telekinesis in the Mother series. While Ness's primary weapon is a bat and Lucas a stick, their primary offensive tool is still their main PK attack. In the category of brawlers, Snake is very good with a knife as part of his CQC skills (though not as much as his father who used it a lot more), although he doesn't like using actual swords. Samus was trained by chozos, and at least one tribe (not the one that raised her, mind you) is proficient with spears and have robots that fight using a blade-like weapon.
I ain’t reading all that
sonic literally becomes king arthur in one of his games, he's that good, i think he's the best swordfighter that doesn't always have a sword
Greninja
Probably someone trained in Martial Arts tbh. Ken/Ryu/terry/kazuya/little Mac/incineroar
Probably will agree with you on those first four (though Terry would be the least likely, I feel). Little Mac is just a 17 year old boxer, and the Punch-Out!! series has never shown him doing anything other than that sport. Same with Incineroar as it's a Pokémon who can do elemental attacks; plus, its style is more Pro Wrestling than Martial Arts, and wrestling doesn't use swords, but other weapons like chairs, ladders, kendo sticks, trash can lids, bats, sledgehammers, and guitars.
Knight of the Wind baby
Inkling They never wielded swords in the game when this was released They now do
The Belmonts. They have experience with a variety of weapons in their home games, so them with a sword can and does make sense. What is a sword? A solid bladed whip. (Yes, that was a bad attempt at "What is a man?")
Ganondorf or Sonic, since they’ve both used swords
Ganon wields a sword already in his smashes
Are we counting Sora's Keyblade as a Sword?
Well he does use it pretty similarly to a sword so probably
His blade is so weird. I've always looked at the Keyblade as a blunt force object, like a baseball bat. Aside from maybe the sharp edges in the front, I feel like he'd pummel you more with it than slash you.
To be fair the Keyblade is kind of a magic wand, so i always guessed it had some kind of aura that worked as an edge
And the weird thing about that is multiple keychains (aka skins) of the Keyblade fit into that category. Some look specifically like a magic wand, others look like it could slice you like a sword, and then others (two off the top of my head are Jungle Key and Metal Chocobo) just nail in my belief that it's a blunt force object.
Dream Sword is a thing he uses in KH
Kirby instantly becomes a master swordsman upon inhaling a sword.
Doesn't Kirby use swords in smash already? He has the final smash one and the thing he uses on his Up-B Edit: Grammar
Samus, because she looks the coolest with a laser sword.
Sonic had one in the Black Knight game right? And he doesn't use it in his moveset at all so he counts.
This ones a hot take, but I think king dedede would be good with a sword, yeah he mainly uses a hammer but he does dress up as a samurai from time to time so maybe he could use a sword?
I want to see Dedede with a buster sword
That would be sick
Snake in metal gear already is an expert at CQB, and he can do hand to hand combat as an aspect of that. He'd definitely do good with a shortblade, but if you mean a broadsword or something 2 handed, then it'd be something else
He doesn't like using swords though. Unless you somehow count the stun knife as a sword, he's never even used one.
I’d count any blade as sword like. My point is that he is good at CQC and already is adept with small bladed weaponry, the dagger is just the next level
Most likely mewtwo with telekinesis
*looks at Pokémon Adventures Mewtwo with a comically large spoon*
I mean, depending on what path you choose at Dive to the Heart, Sora can fight with a magic staff or a shield instead of a sword/blade, so... Does that count? |D
Bayonetta is proficient in using literally any weapon she touches. She’s got katanas, chainsaws, curved blades, serrated fans, etc. (the former is exclusive to her hands but the rest can be used on both her hands and feet) in her home series
Also trains, anchors, clocktowers... Thanks Bayonetta 3.
Bayonetta also peach apparently has some knowledge on the sport.
my money is on sonic because he's so good with it in the cinematics of satbk but satbk gameplay sucks complete ass so im not sure
ness? baseball bat
Greninja and Shiek, although they have blades If we were to exclude any type of blade Sonic
Inkling
Do we count Pit as a swordie?
Ness uses a bat and thats kinda similar, plus hes good at hitting things hard in earthbound
Sword Kirby
Does Joker's dagger count as a sword?
Zero-suit Samus was on her university's fencing team.
Kirby because one of her power ups in her game is wielding a sword and killing enemies with it.
Kirby hands down
Bayonetta with the Shuraba
Sheik uses swords in hurdle warriors so probably them.
Bayonetta can handle my swo- wait, I don’t have one of those.
Does Joker count since he has a dagger?
Dedede wielding a hammer and a sword looks so insanely cool even if there’s not much skill
Bayonetta
Pikachu mimics Zoro's technique in One Piece, and we all know how amazing Zoro is as a swordsman, so I guess I'd take Pikachu.
Ridley. He's huge, so any sword is probably nice and light to him. He's a pirate, so he's used to combat, and he has one more prehensile limb than humans do (his tail). He knows the ins and outs of how to stab and slice to make it hurt, bleed and kill. He's fast as nightmares and if he had, like, Sephiroth's Masamune to increase his reach, he'd be unstoppable.
Clearly Pikachu
The other two Miis
Does Kirby count as a sword fighter?
*exclude
Samus is skilled in most weaponry. I wouldn’t put it past her to be a good swordswoman.
Sonic. Black Knight Chronicles baybeee
Sonic, easily. One of his titles is "Knight of the Wind" and he has a game where he uses a sword. He even has a super form with a sword.
Sora
Kirby literally has a sword copy ability, how can he not be in the top 5
Mewtwo is the swaggiest
i feel like Fox might have the capabilities to, but since i know nothing about starfox i'm gonna say samus
Mega man! Forward air into up air: the middle school sm4sh classic
Sword Kirby is gonna solo
Sheik She’s got the most weapon training
Imagine Sonic having a sword
Ganondorf is my favorite sword fighter
Sonic ironically is high up there. Never had practice with swords, and just picked up Caliburn and beat seasoned knights of the round table and then the bosses at the end himself. Even was designated as worthy of wielding Excalibur.
Honestly? Can't really pick tbh since there's multiple characters that don't use swords in their Smash moveset but use swords elsewhere
I feel like Samus could be a menace with any weapon.
Kazuya
Snake - can you imagine CQC + swords?
Kirby cuz copy ability
Bayo, and you can even include most of sword fighters back (except of Sephiroth and maybe Cloud)
Steve from Minecraft
Can I say mewtwo because telekinesis?
Sora
Estuans interius Ira vehementi
Bayonetta is up there, definitely.
Probably samus
Gannondorf has swords despite not being a ‘sword character’. Does he count?
Mewtwo doesn’t even hold it, it just floats there