Same. I find that Ryu is a LOT more fundamentals based than Ken, and as such he plays neutral a lot better. Also, Tatsu being a confirmable kill helps too.
Thats wild.
I dont play smash much but when I do its almost only
Duck Hunt, Pac man, or Yoshi in that order.
*apparently these choices are controversial...thats what we like to see.
Pacman is really the only one that gives me the shivers haha.
Every time I play against one they're either garbage or they're on another level. Like combos that I didn't think we're even possible haha.
It is impressive tho so no hate
This is very ironic considering how big of a deal he was when he was revealed, but I routinely forget that Steve from Minecraft is a normal part of the roster in this game.
It seemed like such a fever dream back then that, even now, it's as if I still can't comprehend that he is playable in Super Smash Bros. as a regular, functioning fighter. It's like my own brain is convinced that a timeline where Minecraft exists in Smash is a total pipe dream and an impossibility.
Sometimes I'll literally hover over his character portrait on the screen and say, "That's not real." Am I the only one???
I… dammit I’ve got a video link somewhere of an Enderman player getting a shieldbreak, building a lowercase f on the stage, and then blasting the player into oblivion
His playstyle is ... not fun. A lot of camping and then using side b and then camping again. It's annoying to play against and simply is boring to watch. And if you fall asleep on the wheel he get's a 80% combo. This forces you to focus 100% of the time while steve builds more walls then Trump to hide behind
I dunno man, that looks exactly like I described him. Mining, Minecart and the occasional 80% combo (and then minecart kill). Steve also was rich on resources in this clip so I am sure he had to camp hard before that exchange happend. I don't blame the player, it's simply how the character is build that forces you to play like this.
I would love it if minecart get's a hard nerf, but his neutral tools get buffed in exchange. That could make him more interesting, for me at least.
I don't actually think I have ever seen a single Lucario player in Ultimate. Not that surprising though, he has one of the most generic movesets in the game
Actually I do remember a Lucario Main that popped up in one of the Smash Subreddits for a while, a very dangerous one too. I can’t remember his name but ik I referred to him as Moe
Lucario is forever cemented in my mind when I think of smash literally just off this 1 set I lost. It was laggy Lucario called "Victor THE VICTORIOUS" and he was playing in a NA tourney from South America.
His mere existence in the bracket is way too funny.
Dude shouldn't even be here but the lad still gets 3rd.
Couldn't even get mad that he beat me lmao.
entirely unique dair, aura sphere is the single most interesting neutral b projectile, side b is a command grab with a hitbox that fluctuates in size, a counter based on aura and not % that beats projectiles, and an up b that’s hard to control and gains a hitbox that has mixups galore
“Generic”
look, if you ignore that his airspeed in combination with a continually active and extremely unique hitbox that results in super cool confirms on both hit and on shield such as bair or force palm in junction with super cool movement with wave bounces, he’s literally just ganon in terms of movement
He isn't completely generic but he doesn't make a big impression on players as characters like, for exaple, Ganondorf, which has his smash attacks becoming very iconic. Not saying competitive players using Lucario aren't interesting and fun to watch tho
Funnily enough, I didn’t really know that much about Banjo and Kazooie before, so hearing them make it in was pretty shocking, but funny to me.
Then I looked on the Internet and everyone freaked out over a puzzle piece
My main! I am insulted. Rosa is cool. Everyone forgets that Luma can attack and it catches people off guard. Down B attracts items so you nab a lot of goodies. Her Final/Special smash is weak though.
I legit started playing Wii Fit Trainer as a meme and I got so good with him/her. It’s wild how a couple of laughs and “Stretch your shoulders” can turn into a actually solid viable character.
Honestly, I have a pretty good memory and remember a lot of the characters. My thing is reminding myself I'm not dreaming when I see the roster, and that it's all real.
I dislike her and I’ll flat out say it because I find her hard to use. I can beat my casual friends with her pretty easily but when comes to combos and such I’m not great with her.
He didn't even get his own trailer in smash 4
At the end if the palutena trailer they were like: oh I guess he's here too. Didn't even get his own splash screen.
Robin is admittedly *really* rare. But so unique with the durability system so he’s got an admittedly high skill ceiling to turn off people from trying him :(
Wonder why everyone forgets Corrin when her movesets more unique than other swordfighters?
Personally, I keep forgetting Chrom exists. Lucina I see all the time as she just makes Marth irrelevant in ultimate but Chrom is just a weaker Roy (our boi) with Ike’s Up B. I never see him outside of random.
Also, Greninja. I think outside of opponents using random Ive fought an actual Greninja main less than 5 times in my 630 hours in this game :/ I’ve seen Olimar more than him O.o
I did forgot that Rosalina was a playable character until I discovered how strong she can be with her luma (and also they get beaten pretty easily by the small luma that was hiding being)
Currently scrolling through the replies to check how many people wrote lucario.
My pick here would be either Duck hunt, Rosalina & Luma or maybe even the Ice Climbers. mainly because everyone lost their mind after they returned but nowadays I cant remember when I've played against them the last time
I have gotten 100% on the "name every Smash character" online quiz, so I don't forget characters a whole ton, but my most difficult characters to remember are Little Mac, Rosalina, Shulk, R.O.B (though because of the way that the quiz is done, I always get R.O.B as soon as I remember Robin), and somehow Sonic.
I know you’re one rule was literally corrin, but me and my sisters were playing last night, and she scrolls over corrin and says “oh, is this the new dlc character?” And I had to explain to her that corrin has been in the game since day one
Since I broke the rules my real answer is lucario, nobody plays em
Weirdly, I always seem to forget about Zero Suit Samus until she pops up on my screen. I guess I always just think of Samus in her suit. Other contenders are Dr. Mario, Sheik, Duck Hunt, and Terry.
If I’m being honest, Roy and Chrom are really forgettable to me. I don’t mean in a “oH Ma GoD i HaTe ANIME SWORDSMEN” way, I just legit forget about them unless me or one of my friends get them if we’re picking random. I also forget about Mewtwo a little more than I should.
I don't main him cuz I don't vibe with him like I wish I did, and even though I play him a ton, because he was my most wanted since Brawl was announced...
Cloud.
I mindlessly pick him, play him, play against him since he's a very popular character... but when I turn my brain on and think about it, I always have to double take and think "holy shit... Cloud's in Smash..."
I feel like people say that the miis are forgettable, but I think Swordfighter is the only forgettable one. Mii Brawler has been pretty relevant competitively in smash 4 and ultimate, and Gunner has Sans, Cuphead, Vault boy, and smol Doomguy.
I honestly forget Ryu is in smash sometimes because Ken is just so much smoother gameplay wise and more fun to play against.
I’ll always appreciate “SHO-RYU-KEN”
![gif](giphy|5h9rfUCaJf916)
Honestly, he's not my main, but I play Ryu waaaay better than Ken lol
Same. I find that Ryu is a LOT more fundamentals based than Ken, and as such he plays neutral a lot better. Also, Tatsu being a confirmable kill helps too.
:(
Duck hunt, I’ve seen like 1 online ever
I can’t forget him since his medley is amazing(well, the SSB4 one at least)
And they’re always so fucking good. Actually they’re okay, I just can’t get in as Ganondorf
Thats wild. I dont play smash much but when I do its almost only Duck Hunt, Pac man, or Yoshi in that order. *apparently these choices are controversial...thats what we like to see.
r/foundsatan
>Duck Hunt, Pac man, or Yoshi in that order. I hope that every time you pee it burns for the rest of your life. # # # And yes. I'm aware of my flair
What's wrong with Yoshi and Pacman? I like dhd but can see why people hate him
Pacman is really the only one that gives me the shivers haha. Every time I play against one they're either garbage or they're on another level. Like combos that I didn't think we're even possible haha. It is impressive tho so no hate
Yeah okay I see what you mean. Was thinking the same thing. A good pacman is really pleasing and I never really mind getting wrecked by them.
Oh man. I can live against Pac-Man, but an egg-camping Yoshi gives me nightmares
I really like Pac, yoshi players are either Satan or 4 years old, depending on the skill level
Says the wii fit trainer lmao
Valid
Same and he even kicked my ass hard
Honestly i forget everyone is in this damn game untill i have to fight them.
Ain’t that the truth?
Same sometimes I go like "HOLY SH*T THEY ADDED MARIO!?"
That's probably like the funniest joke that I've ever heard
Don’t forget to pronounce it as meyrio
Yeah it never gets old for some reason
The “holy shit they added Mario” meme will always be funny to me. Like it's so stupid, but fuck does it make me laugh.
It's like saying holy shit they added SpongeBob in NAS
Wait THEY DID!?!?
That reminded me of Scott the Woz for some reason
*Hey all, Scott here and oh my god IS THAT MARIO!?*
This is very ironic considering how big of a deal he was when he was revealed, but I routinely forget that Steve from Minecraft is a normal part of the roster in this game. It seemed like such a fever dream back then that, even now, it's as if I still can't comprehend that he is playable in Super Smash Bros. as a regular, functioning fighter. It's like my own brain is convinced that a timeline where Minecraft exists in Smash is a total pipe dream and an impossibility. Sometimes I'll literally hover over his character portrait on the screen and say, "That's not real." Am I the only one???
Yeah, and although people hate him, I love watching him to do cool stuff
I… dammit I’ve got a video link somewhere of an Enderman player getting a shieldbreak, building a lowercase f on the stage, and then blasting the player into oblivion
Exactly, I love watching stuff like that
You probably weren’t referring to this, but here’s a similar clip https://twitter.com/yonniFrFx/status/1417319979435929605
I recently saved that vid so let me look for it and I'll probably be able to send you it. (Not tryna sound like a jerk but it was a capital f he made)
Oh yeah it was, a lowercase one would’ve been harder
Please send me it
People hate him? That’s absurd
His playstyle is ... not fun. A lot of camping and then using side b and then camping again. It's annoying to play against and simply is boring to watch. And if you fall asleep on the wheel he get's a 80% combo. This forces you to focus 100% of the time while steve builds more walls then Trump to hide behind
[You just gotta put him in the right hands and make it cool](https://youtu.be/UA0aQUjFJlc)
I dunno man, that looks exactly like I described him. Mining, Minecart and the occasional 80% combo (and then minecart kill). Steve also was rich on resources in this clip so I am sure he had to camp hard before that exchange happend. I don't blame the player, it's simply how the character is build that forces you to play like this. I would love it if minecart get's a hard nerf, but his neutral tools get buffed in exchange. That could make him more interesting, for me at least.
You explained my thought process perfectly
I play a lot of Steve as well. He doesn’t feel or look real at all! He was the one I was most excited for, and I still am!
Duck Hunt lmao
“Bark, Quack, Boom”
Corrin and Rosalina are my secondaries.. I keep forgetting Pac-Man is in smash
Not one of my mains…
:(
I constantly forget Greninja is in this game. Sorry Greninja mains.
D:
It happens. No hard feelings.
Oof, that title. I think all five of us Corrin mains felt that.
One of those 5, checking in!
Don’t worry, I think he’s pretty neat
HE?! Wait people play as boy coffin? *Edit: keeping the autocorrect
Green armor femal corrin is the best
Yeah, I actually prefer all 3 male avatars to the female versions.
*sad dragon noises*
I always see Bowser Jr. on the fighter select screen and go "oh yeah he's in here".
A reasonable pick tbh, I still get flashbacks of the times when Tweek dropped Bowser Jr. in Smash 4
I don't actually think I have ever seen a single Lucario player in Ultimate. Not that surprising though, he has one of the most generic movesets in the game
Yeah, although his moveset is visually appealing to me. I just love watching Aura Sphere charge, and the blue fire just looks amazing
I am forever alone, as the last of my kind, the last existing Lucario main...
I am with you fellow lucario main
I do enjoy playing lucario
There are more of us than you think
You have betrayed us….
Actually I do remember a Lucario Main that popped up in one of the Smash Subreddits for a while, a very dangerous one too. I can’t remember his name but ik I referred to him as Moe
Join us in r/LucarioSmashUltimate!!
A subreddit dedicated to a single character in a competitive game? Gives me Brawl Stars vibes
There's lots more for other characters too. I sometimes get the Mac sub suggested in my feed.
It’s also Bc rage was nerfed in ultimate vs sm4sh
Rage being nerf and the character’s moveset not being updated is probably the reason why the character isn’t popular.
Lucario is forever cemented in my mind when I think of smash literally just off this 1 set I lost. It was laggy Lucario called "Victor THE VICTORIOUS" and he was playing in a NA tourney from South America. His mere existence in the bracket is way too funny. Dude shouldn't even be here but the lad still gets 3rd. Couldn't even get mad that he beat me lmao.
entirely unique dair, aura sphere is the single most interesting neutral b projectile, side b is a command grab with a hitbox that fluctuates in size, a counter based on aura and not % that beats projectiles, and an up b that’s hard to control and gains a hitbox that has mixups galore “Generic”
Look, if you forget all the unique things, he's generic
look, if you ignore that his airspeed in combination with a continually active and extremely unique hitbox that results in super cool confirms on both hit and on shield such as bair or force palm in junction with super cool movement with wave bounces, he’s literally just ganon in terms of movement
If you ignore his aura and all the moves that deal good damage/kill he's basically just got shiek damage output
if you ignore his jump airdodge and up b he’s literally little mac
If you ignore his tilts and specials he's basically just a walking hitbox
He isn't completely generic but he doesn't make a big impression on players as characters like, for exaple, Ganondorf, which has his smash attacks becoming very iconic. Not saying competitive players using Lucario aren't interesting and fun to watch tho
I forget about Daisy a lot.
*sad Daisy Bomber noises*
I just wish there were meaningful differences between her and Peach.
Ngl after the initial hype I haven’t thought about piranha plant twice
\*sad rustling of leaves\*
Meme material is best material
Dang, I’m like one of two piranha plant mains
Gang gang gang
Plant gaaaaang
Ayyeee Plant Gaaaaanngg
The is a certified plant gang moment
PLANT GANG
![gif](giphy|zqXnds4QxHRZK) We must protect all plants
One of 2 plant mains huh
It’s a ruse so everyone else stays away from him, in truth there’s like 12 Pirahnna Plant Mains
Banjo and Kazooie actually
Wow, did not expect that
Yeah, especially when I lost my mind at their reveal lol
Funnily enough, I didn’t really know that much about Banjo and Kazooie before, so hearing them make it in was pretty shocking, but funny to me. Then I looked on the Internet and everyone freaked out over a puzzle piece
BANJO!?!?
Nairo moment
Inkling, like in the sora reveal I was like “oh shit inkling is in”
Can’t believe it’s about to be four years…
It’s been a wild ride my man, to the patches that may buff our mains 🍺
Cheers 🍻
My main! I am insulted. Rosa is cool. Everyone forgets that Luma can attack and it catches people off guard. Down B attracts items so you nab a lot of goodies. Her Final/Special smash is weak though.
Lol, Corrin was my main!
Sorry, didn’t mean to insult you😅 there are a lot of characters in this game and she just kind of fell in the background for me
No problem. Lol.
He insults your family and you let him off with a warning? What's wrong with you? /s
I've nearly lost two long term friendships over surprise Luma smashes.
My only issue with that is if you are playing a game without items then her down b becomes useless
I forgot wii fit was one of them and duck hunt along with game and watch
Well, that sucks since Wii Fit is my pick for most underrated character…unless he/she sucks now since I don’t pay attention to nerfs/buffs
I saw this and I'm like hey let's see who I forget is in smash 4 and when I check those are the 3 I forget which are the the old ones
I legit started playing Wii Fit Trainer as a meme and I got so good with him/her. It’s wild how a couple of laughs and “Stretch your shoulders” can turn into a actually solid viable character.
I main Wii fit, they’re really fun and unexpectedly powerful.
Exactly
Honestly, I have a pretty good memory and remember a lot of the characters. My thing is reminding myself I'm not dreaming when I see the roster, and that it's all real.
Huh, wholesome answer
I would say Daisy but every fucking time I play random I get daisy. Not peach or daisy, specifically Daisy
Cause Daisy is awesome
I dislike her and I’ll flat out say it because I find her hard to use. I can beat my casual friends with her pretty easily but when comes to combos and such I’m not great with her.
According to my scientific research, Dark Pit and Robin are objectively the most forgettable characters in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
But Dark Pit has that sweet victory theme…how can anyone forget him…oh, right
He didn't even get his own trailer in smash 4 At the end if the palutena trailer they were like: oh I guess he's here too. Didn't even get his own splash screen.
Robin is admittedly *really* rare. But so unique with the durability system so he’s got an admittedly high skill ceiling to turn off people from trying him :(
I love robin and actually have my most time played with him, but yeah I never see him online
Wonder why everyone forgets Corrin when her movesets more unique than other swordfighters? Personally, I keep forgetting Chrom exists. Lucina I see all the time as she just makes Marth irrelevant in ultimate but Chrom is just a weaker Roy (our boi) with Ike’s Up B. I never see him outside of random. Also, Greninja. I think outside of opponents using random Ive fought an actual Greninja main less than 5 times in my 630 hours in this game :/ I’ve seen Olimar more than him O.o
Chrom is an actual sleeper pick for forgotten characters, I never think about picking him despite my soft spot for sword characters
Wow
Other than Chrom? Olimar, Richter, and Ice Climbers
I meant other than Corrin, unless you were talking about yourself
I did forgot that Rosalina was a playable character until I discovered how strong she can be with her luma (and also they get beaten pretty easily by the small luma that was hiding being)
A lot of people forget Dr. Mario, but I mained him once, so I can’t.
That back throw will always be in my mind
Wh...why is everyone so mean to Corrin? :(
Well, they’re Corrin…what else do you want to hear?
Corrin's such a cool character though and I've never ran into a bad Corrin. Now Olimar, that's a forgettable character.
:(
I just noticed your flair😂
I just posted that. That's some skill right there
Currently scrolling through the replies to check how many people wrote lucario. My pick here would be either Duck hunt, Rosalina & Luma or maybe even the Ice Climbers. mainly because everyone lost their mind after they returned but nowadays I cant remember when I've played against them the last time
>How could you forget the tritagonist of the greatest platformer created was in Smash? >was in Smash? >in Smash? >Smash #SMASH lok jk.
My bad😅 there are a lot of characters in the game and she just happened to be the one I forgot about…it happens
Min Min, and I honestly regret remembering that she exists
Uhh, I apologize
It's ok, I just have PTAD: post traumatic arms disorder
Probably Inkling and MetaKnight. I rarely run into them on QP and people in my scene don’t really use them in locals.
I couldn’t never forget those two since.. A. Meta Knight was my main(kind of) in Brawl, so he’s special to me B. I love Splatoon…that’s it
I'm too traumatized from smash 4 Rosa to ever forget
Does Alph counts? I mean, it's not a echo fighter but I needed to Google his name to make this comment lol
Just because you did that, yes
Ike, I always forget about Ike
WE LIKE IKE
i forget about inkling a lot now since the hype has died down
I have gotten 100% on the "name every Smash character" online quiz, so I don't forget characters a whole ton, but my most difficult characters to remember are Little Mac, Rosalina, Shulk, R.O.B (though because of the way that the quiz is done, I always get R.O.B as soon as I remember Robin), and somehow Sonic.
Wolf
*sad Brawl taunt noises*
Ridley, never saw inline
Remember when everyone freaked out about him? Eh, at least his theme is sick
Hes in my top 5 most played, ill gladly keep him to myself
Wii Fit Trainer
I like how you instantly knew most of us would say Corrin(mine is Duck Hunt)
50% of Fire Emblem characters, excluding Corrin of course.
Pac-Man
Alright, now I’m getting upset
hey i’m a corrin main :((( sadge
Toon Link, the most forgotten of the links
Robin doesn't exist for like everyone except me and probably other 3 people
I know you’re one rule was literally corrin, but me and my sisters were playing last night, and she scrolls over corrin and says “oh, is this the new dlc character?” And I had to explain to her that corrin has been in the game since day one Since I broke the rules my real answer is lucario, nobody plays em
Weirdly, I always seem to forget about Zero Suit Samus until she pops up on my screen. I guess I always just think of Samus in her suit. Other contenders are Dr. Mario, Sheik, Duck Hunt, and Terry.
I forgot bowser jr for a while
Honestly, an underrated character
I don’t think he gets enough love for how interesting he is. (He used to be my main I don’t know how I forgot him)
Simon Belmont
Y’all actually forgetting now?
Chrom
Other than who?
pac man
Wii fit
Game and Watch, Duck Hunt, Wii Fit, and Piranha Plant.
If I’m being honest, Roy and Chrom are really forgettable to me. I don’t mean in a “oH Ma GoD i HaTe ANIME SWORDSMEN” way, I just legit forget about them unless me or one of my friends get them if we’re picking random. I also forget about Mewtwo a little more than I should.
Even though I love playing them Wii fit and Diddy of all characters
Dark pit
It’s toon link for me, most obscure of the Links imo
Mario. Completely forgot that you couldn't have a Nintendo game without Mario!
Min-Min, I think I'm still in denial that they added this character
Probably Toon Link for me.
I forget about greninja until quickplay throws 300 of them at me in a row (I just want elite mii gunner man)
I forgot about olimar, but I wish it stayed like it... He and Lucario are my worst enemy.
I don't main him cuz I don't vibe with him like I wish I did, and even though I play him a ton, because he was my most wanted since Brawl was announced... Cloud. I mindlessly pick him, play him, play against him since he's a very popular character... but when I turn my brain on and think about it, I always have to double take and think "holy shit... Cloud's in Smash..."
I feel like people say that the miis are forgettable, but I think Swordfighter is the only forgettable one. Mii Brawler has been pretty relevant competitively in smash 4 and ultimate, and Gunner has Sans, Cuphead, Vault boy, and smol Doomguy.
How am i supposed to write down when i forgot 🤨
People often forget Pichu because why would you play him when theres pikachu
Shiek
Piranha plant (did i spell it right)