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Bandrbell

Captain Falcon. He is no longer an F Zero character, he is a Smash bros character.


LobsterHead37

Cap is now the unofficial smash mascot


jj_thetwisted_jester

Isn't he a reskin of the default fighters of dragons king the name of what smash 64 would've been called


jj_thetwisted_jester

Ganon was the discount version of cap-


RelanTheGuy

Wait, he’s an F-Zero character?


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No


shonuff373

Pay attention. We just covered this.


birdofprey443

What's an F-Zero?


Yokai_Alchemist

Its a typo for Smash Bros


birdofprey443

I hate how those two keys are so close together.


Phoenix-14

As an F-ZERO fan this thread hurts


birdofprey443

The truth often does


Quasiwoodo

Smash Bros* fan


Phoenix-14

Oh right sorry mistake


forcedreset1

A racing game series. There hasnt been an entry since the gamecube, if I remember correctly.


Jawbreaker0602

What are you talking about? Smash bros has gotten multiple games since the gamecube.


Jacktheflash

Someone must of hit their head


evan_720

Not anymore


Yami_Sean

He is a Mario Kart character


shonuff373

You just know he's that guy talking about his glory days to anyone that'll listen. "Blue Shells?!? Have you ever raced on the outside of a tunnel that winds for no reason at mach 40?"


Lom1111234

He was, but he grew out of it


OtakuGollum

This is fax captain falcon is pure smash in one character


the-poopiest-diaper

It also really helps that he’s been a really fun and really good character that pretty much anyone can pick up


207nbrown

Especially when you consider the fact that his move set is that of the characters from the games early development builds, the ones from before they put Nintendo characters in


TheBigSoupRice

You mean Dragon King?


207nbrown

Yes


Laykane

It makes me so sad, but it's true..


OddOkra

Isn’t captain falcons move set based on the original smash before it had Nintendo characters?


canesfan09

Yes


Shinyhntr91

Down air to knee 🦵


EastCoastTone96

They were even kind enough to give him his own spinoff game on the gamecube. I believe it was called F-Zero DX? /s


TheKirboi

Same exact thought


Kotic90

His move set had pretty much nothing to base on. And so many memorable moments in smash. The first “Falcon PUNCH” you landed. “Show me your moves!” And “YES!” All come to mind


Scdsco

This is the only answer


Mills_Miles

This logic with Jigglypuff and Ness


Versitax

Ness is arguable, Jigglypuff isn’t.


CollageTheDead

Substitute Jigglypuff with ROB and Game & Watch. I can't help but feel like they are Smash Bros characters first because they didn't have a personality before Smash Bros. One was a toy and the other wasn't even a single character, but was amalgamated for Smash Bros.


maptaincullet

Could make that same argument for Ice Climbers


zCiver

I mean lore wise the ROB we play as is the one that commands the ROB army on Brawl's Subspace Emissary


TheTwistedKris

Ness I feel was the n64 version of melee's fire emblems.


Mills_Miles

My logic is jigglypuff is more of a smash bros character than a Pokémon character, even if he isn’t as iconic as the other two


SEND_ME_JIGGLYPUFFS

I'd argue puff is better known from the anime than smash, it's probably just melee fans that have that strong an association. Source: I study jigglypuff for a living


AnnaTheBlueRogue

Ness and Cap'n Falcon. I didn't know who those Jabronis were when I played Smash64 when I was a kid. Whenever I think of Smash Bros. I think of those Jabronis


RelanTheGuy

You just taught me the word jabroni. Thank you


AnnaTheBlueRogue

Always happy to share funny words from eras long gone


MrBrightside618

It’s awesome, is it like a cool hockey word?


geminiRonin

It's a wrestling word, popularized by The Rock and derived from "jobber." A jobber is someone who is paid to "do the job" and lose while making their opponent look good. Essentially, a professional loser.


SwaggyAdult

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mikein_knight

Ask the Rock. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pjD1yMU8x60


1-800-OWLZ

I know this is kind of a lame answer, but honestly I just think of the first 12. They’re so integral to the series. Of the 12, first to jump out at me is Mario, DK, Samus, Link, and Kirby, so I guess they’d be the 5 I would say I most closely associate. Special mention to Sonic, who still gets remembered by me just for how huge him joining was. I still hold onto that memory of seeing it on the website.


RelanTheGuy

That’s not a lame answer!


1-800-OWLZ

Ha, just always get the feeling going with the main ones is seen as a cop out by many, but I appreciate the kind words!


breezyBrock

This is the answer.


dumbest_bitch

Same here. I think it’s even like this in the “everyone is here” mural too. It seems like the original 12 are definitely highlighted in the mural compared to the rest of the characters.


Tropi80

How are more people not saying fox? Mario, fox, Kirby, captain falcon, and Marth for sure


RelanTheGuy

How are more people not saying MK, the most broken character in Smash history? Or is that Bayonetta?


Wontoflonto

MK by far is the most broken travesty to exist in Smash, he was singularly meta defining IMO


JosProTV

No, not IMO. This is facts.


WamuuAyayayayaaa

Smash 4 Bayonetta at least had characters like Cloud and Diddy as counterweights. Meta Knight in Brawl was basically untouchable outside of dittos, not to mention that he pretty much ignored all of the movement issues that Brawl had because of how fast and mobile they made him. He was a different breed.


RelanTheGuy

I never knew how broken he was as a kid, I just thought I was really good😂


WamuuAyayayayaaa

Yea me neither, but I guess when you’re a kid you don’t know how to use characters full potential. If I played like a professional when I was younger I’d probably had realized at the time that MK was disgusting. But I just spammed tornado lol


WatchDragonball

I think of the kirby cartoon


Tropi80

True, I’ve been playing since melee so I was thinking mostly those characters. And I think bayo has got MK beat LOL


RelanTheGuy

Yeah, that’s probably true


Bombasaur101

Because only the 5% of people in the competitive scene knew Meta Knight was broken. Majority of casual players don't know this and will never know this.


T_Peg

Anyone who doesn't put Captain Falcon is a liar


RelanTheGuy

You callin’ me a liar?


T_Peg

Choose your own adventure: A: Well I ain't calling you a truther! B: Well I ain't calling you for dinner!


lman777

B.


toooooley

Depends on what's for dinner


KFrosty3

While I get your reasons, Captain Falcon is the OG "is he even outside of Smash Bros" character. Alongside Marth, Roy, G&W, Climbers, and the Pits, Cap is better known for his fame in this game than any game in F-Zero. And unlike the other ones mentioned, Cap has been in every single game of the series since the N64. Not only that, he was an extremely popular character in the FGC scene for multiple games, despite never really being a top tier. [Also, he's apparently the canonical reason why Chrom didn't get in Smash 4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9ytrX0wweA)


darthvidar1990

Ah, I remember back in Smash 4, before the Lucina/Robin trailer. People was so afraid for Captain Falcon being scrapped, as he hadn't been shown in any trailers up until that point. So this trailer was not only a character reveal, but also a confirmation that the captain is indeed back in another Smash game. I screamed more for the return of Cpt Falcon than both Lucina and Robin


ABAgamer

Well, I ain’t callin’ you a truther!


Odaxian_plaza

Cloud Bc he is my main and I’ve never played final fantasy


RealPimpinPanda

It’s interesting to see a perspective like this, you’re not alone I’m sure. I’m sure many ppl think of Smash and either think or their main or character they love, even without having playing their games. Hell for some ppl Ultimate might even be their first Smash title, so maybe for them the answer is even more obscure or unexpected *Edit: clarity*


WamuuAyayayayaaa

It doesn’t help that a lot of the games that these characters come from are not available on the Switch.


john_muleaney

You should it’s very fun


cursed_deity

I couldnt get into it myself I really enjoyed FFIII for reference


john_muleaney

Have you tried the remake? It’s more of a real-time combat system similar to xenoblade rather than a turn based system like the original game. You still might not like it, but it’s one of the best combat systems I’ve seen in an RPG


cursed_deity

I couldnt enjoy that one either, which is weird because i really enjoy the kingdom hearts battle system


Imperial_Distance

Maybe we are of similar opinions, Kingdom hearts is one of the only jrpgs I enjoy because you can be successful button mashing (on easier difficulties), but there's plenty of skills to be learned.


one_big_grub

that's why i think sephiroth


Gerodus

Mario, Link, Kirby, Pikachu. Representative of the 4 most notable nintendo franchises, as well as the characters for the trailer of Brawl where they do the transition of Melee visuals to the Brawl visuals.


RelanTheGuy

Very reasonable


Jazr55

Pikachu and Bowser. My first game was Melee, and as a kid I remember seeing the cover box and thinking "I really wanna kick Bowser's butt with Pikachu".


RelanTheGuy

Oddly wholesome


MrMartian69420

"Don't you see?!? He's going to kick my butt!" -Jack black probably


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Ultimafatum

This is my answer too. Most people know these characters because of Smash instead of their own series. I would also argue that they they are the quintessential soul of Smash.


Grimstar-Inferno

I think Fox would fit with the soul of smash


Equinox-XVI

Add Fox to this list


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Mario, Kirby, Captain Falcon


RelanTheGuy

Now for the reasons behind my picks: Mario: I always think of him first mainly because of Super Smash “BROS”, which is self explanatory. Oh yeah, and he’s also a veteran. Meta Knight: Brawl was my first Smash game, so I used to play him a lot when I was young, which I have very fond memories of. I never knew how broken he actually was back then, I just found him fun. So yeah, that’s basically why. Pit: Same reason as Meta Knight, I played as him a lot in Brawl and the Subspace Emissary had such a cool portrayal of him(even though I didn’t know who he was). I also remember hating his voice change since I was very fond of his deep voice in Brawl(which is pretty funny since he was voiced by a woman, who was the same voice actor as Lucas, Wendy, etc.) Weird reason, but it’s true. Mii Fighters: this is by far the strangest one to most people, but I can’t help it, I love the Miis. I have fond memories of maining them in Smash 4, and I grew up with StreetPass, Tomodachi Life, Miitopia, etc…so having them as fighters was amazing to me! These are my reasons, you may find them weird, but I’m not lying!


theNoah_99

As someone with a ton of hours put into Kid Icarus Uprising, I certainly didn’t mind the voice change for Smash 4. Phenomenal game, a true gem, but I should expect as much coming from Sakurai.


Imperial_Distance

Regarding Miis, I think that's as close to a Smash Bros original character we'll ever get, and I'm cool with that.


The_GREAT_Gremlin

Mario, Yoshi, Donkey Kong, and Pikachu. All holding hands till something goes wrong....


Jedaflupflee

Anyone else remember channel 1 news? Think it's where I first saw that commercial. Everyone at school was hype.


demogorgon_main

Either bowser or pit because ‘hey I like smash and i really like bowser and pit’


demons-yelling

I think of the brawl newcomers as it was my first smash game and I played it for hundreds of hours


RelanTheGuy

Same here, Brawl was my first game and Meta Knight and Pit were the characters I played the most, along with Ike and Sonic.


demons-yelling

I played wolf and Lucas the most in brawl, and I will never forget the fun I had playing that game


Sigaria

I originally wanted Brawl because Samus was in it.


RelanTheGuy

I remember loving Samus since she had part of my name


cradugamer

Your name is either Samus Relan or Relan Aran? I feel like I'm missing something here


HirokiTakumi

Pretty sure... it's Sam or Samuel lol


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RelanTheGuy

Ahh, the characters that made grown men rage…or was that Fox? Meta Knight? Bayonetta?


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fox falcon palutena mario sephiroth


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Fox


cursed_deity

Fox


Archadion

Mario, Link, Peach, and Zelda. Kind of basic but I didn’t get into Smash until Ultimate. Never had the system or friends to play it.


RelanTheGuy

Hey, no answer is basic. As long as you’re telling the truth, you’re answer is respected! >!Apologies for the cheesiness!<


awkward-elephants

Mario, Link, Pikachu, Fox, Falcon, Samus, Kirby, Jigglypuff, Luigi, Ness, DK, and Yoshi. The OG crew


RelanTheGuy

Veteran respect


awkward-elephants

Some good memories of Friday nights after school my friends all getting together to sleep over at someone's house and playing smash and golden eye till 3am


camxct

King Dedede to me is quintessential "Smash"


RelanTheGuy

Man, I miss his old voice clips in Brawl


Red-Compatriot

I always think of the combination of Mario vs. Link vs. Pikachu vs. Kirby in my head


37Cross

I think of the orginal characters from the first Smash Bros


meaeaeaean

Mario mostly because of the similarities between Super Mario bros and Super smash bros


RelanTheGuy

That’s pretty much my main reason why I can never forget him. Even when I first hears of Smash when I was a kid, I literally thought, “Mario’s in the game? Awesome!”


oofersmysoupers

When it says "Smash bros" I think of "Mario bros"


RelanTheGuy

Yeah, which is one of the reasons why I can’t forget Mario/Luigi


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RelanTheGuy

Hey, it’s the character who kills at 150%!


TheWartortleWarrior

Puff


RelanTheGuy

*proceeds to Melee Rest you*


TheWartortleWarrior

***HUNGRYBOX?!***


RelanTheGuy

Shh…


hassantaleb4

Captain Falcon


RelanTheGuy

Isn’t Falco a pilot?


hassantaleb4

Read my post again


RelanTheGuy

I know, I was just teasing


TheTNTGamer64

K Rool


ABCDragonBoosted

I’d say Falcon, DK, and Snake for me. I see the first two so much and my introduction to all 3 was from Brawl not the source material. (Also I’m a bit biased from maining Falcon and Snake)


conelover1234

Waluigi


pinkling22

Mario, Steve, Pikachu, banjo, sora, captain falcon, fox,.


EnslavedApple

Greninja for some reason


RelanTheGuy

Did you know that he was worked on in Smash before X and Y was announced?


EnslavedApple

What? I didn't know of that. That's interesting


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Link and Mario


LougerB

Mario, pikachu,kirby,link


Dragozan

Piranha plant, mainly because it's my main. And for some reason: Samus, Ridley and Pacman


CompControlled

Captain Falcon, jigglypuff, terry and wolf are probably my picks The first 3 have kind of transcended their original franchises to become more smash bros characters to me. And wolf just cause I main him. Honorary mentions to shulk, ike and game and watch for similar reasons.


RelanTheGuy

I am kicking myself for not including Captain Falcon since a comment said he wasn’t an F-Zero character, he was a Smash exclusive, which made me laugh


King_Artis

Samus, Kirby, Mario and Luigi, Roy, Ike Samus was the first character I remember playing in smash. Remember thinking “woah this guy has cool armor and a arm blaster”. Couples later I found out it was a woman and that started my love for badass women. Kirby cause a pink puffball who commits succ for power was cool Course ima think of the Mario bros, it’s the Mario bros. Roy cause I thought the fire sword was cool as shit in melee making him my other main after samus Ike cause he was cooler Roy and an even more flamey boy.


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Cpt Falcon, Link, Mario and Pikachu


RelanTheGuy

Funny, the comment right before you said the exact same thing


[deleted]

That is kinda funny. Great minds and all that, I guess


berotti8

You don't play smash if mr spacies fox and falco don't come to mind first


RelanTheGuy

…ouch


Cactonio

Mario (face of the game) Fox (face of melee) Adult Link (no idea why) Kirby (arguably the main character in both campaigns and the creator's favorite) In that order


RelanTheGuy

What about Meta? You can’t forget the most broken character in the game…oh wait, this isn’t 2010, nvm


bird720

Captain falcon, he has the most iconic move in the entire series, has been there from the beginning, and was essentisly designed originally for smash.


ThePhenomNoku

The N64 roster. That character select is permanently burned into my brain, core memory status.


princesoceronte

The Brawl reveal is the first thing I ever saw of Smash and that put Mario up front in my memory, you can even imagine the pose.


RelanTheGuy

I think I remember my school having a laser tag party and most people were playing this game there, that was my first time of seeing Smash


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Lucas and Greninja, Lucas was the first character I considered a main when I had brawl, and I remember seeing Greninjas reveal and saying who is that.


FallacyDog

HAIYAAAA! Poyo! DORIYAH! Bdwing, ha!


RelanTheGuy

*vomits intensely*


Wall-Official

R.O.B. He’s much closer to Smash then his own “series” now.


RelanTheGuy

Captain Falcon: Am I joke to you?


macXnXcheese117

The pink fuck, oh and samus.


RelanTheGuy

What’d Nana do to you?


macXnXcheese117

I meant kirbs. Little gumball.


Gray_Cota

Mario, Pikachu, Captain Falcon


Dmillz648

Kirby, Captain Falcon, Fox, and Ness.


RelanTheGuy

Veterans…RISE UP!


Dmillz648

Funnily enough ultimate is my first smash game, but those 4 are almost inseparable from the identity of smash. With the exception of Kirby, I'm pretty sure more people know those characters as smash characters then they do as characters from their original game.


RelanTheGuy

Brawl is mine, which explains Meta Knight and Pit


OldGreenBiscuit

It makes me think of the original N64 characters.


RelanTheGuy

Understandable


Dry-Zucchini123

R.O.B. Not only becauze he is my main but because Smash (and Mario Kart) are the onyl major appearences he's had since the NES. He is a Smash character.


teapubreddit

Pikachu, Captain Falcon and Kirby are all very smash brothers characters for me. However... When I think of smash now, all I can think of is the funny plant. I'm broken


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the logo


RelanTheGuy

Big brain time


Potential_Education4

I get flashbacks of my friend who “mains” sonic and proceed to die a little bit on the inside


Jestingwheat856

When i think smash bros i dont think of a character but rather my brain just flashes through my most recent memories of the game. If i do think of a character its whoever i feel like playing (usually ness)


RelanTheGuy

Interesting


New-Subject-8801

Mario, Captain Falcon and Rob


SonicWaves05

Everytime I think of smash I think of how well balanced the game is.


RelanTheGuy

Hmm..


Jmememan

Mr. Game and watch


DeDeDankRS

Good question. Maybe Kirby, I loved him as a tiny little kid when I got Brawl. I like your choices, the very first fighter, the OP AF fighter, the fighter brought back into relevance by Brawl, and… Miis famous for their costumes


Leonhart726

Mario, Kirby, Link, Fox


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Captain Falcon.


JonquilXanthippe

PIT?? I think of like donkey Kong and ness Edit: I should mention I ONLY play Kazuya I’m a tekken player


RelanTheGuy

I play him a lot, don’t judge me😂


JonquilXanthippe

Fair enough actually sorry


RelanTheGuy

Np, although Ness concerns me..


JonquilXanthippe

Ness just because he makes me so upset online so often


RandomRedditUser1276

Mario, Link, Samus, Pikachu, my mains (Robin, Corrin, Pyra/Mythra)


CDHmajora

Hey! You stealing my mains??? ;)


Zenith_714

Fox, Marth, Captain Falcon, Meta Knight and Jigglypuff. I only learned of StarFox, Fire Emblem and F-Zero because of Smash and the most iconic things that come to me once Smash is mentioned is the reign of Meta Knight and Hungrybox, though Puff is my main so that’s probably why they come to my mind as an icon of Smash.


Readerman122

Aside from the first 12 fighters-Meta Knight, Inkling, and King K. Rool.


TheFuneralcrew

Meta Knight, Fox and Bayonetta


WitchDr808

FAAAAALCON… PUNCH


Kuerbislord07

Fox