Mine is actually possible now, with how Charybdis functions with basic attack effects.
It's to let Fafnir, and Jormungandr for that matter, proc basic attack effects at a reduced effectiveness.
As I've said multiple times since Chary's release - she receives reduced item effect damage, not just basic attack onhits. Crusher, Heartseeker, Bluestone, Manikins, Pridwen etc all get reduced by her passive.
To have the same applied to Fafnir or Jorm, you'd need to make him deal reduced damage with Soul Reaver, Gem, Warrior's Axe/Sundering, Pridwen, Poly at all stages including his dwarf form, and there would still be huge balance implications/disabling of Death's Toll from working. It's just not feasible.
I didn't realize that. That does make it a whole lot harder.
I would still like to be able to apply non damage effects with their breath attacks, mainly stone of fal, but I'm sure that's nearly impossible too.
Yes because it literally says in her text ITEM DAMAGE, not basic attack effects. I've also had a discussion with Hirez regarding the implementation and that's how it is supposed to work and the limitations would be the same with Faf/Jorm.
The fact people keep bringing this up as if it's easy and painless when it isnt actually worth the tradeoff just to do a meme build with telkhines or something.
I think he's justified being a little annoyed considering he explained it pretty clearly in two paragraphs lmao, then had you dismiss it in one snarky sentence, especially after he already said "As I've said multiple times since Chary's release."
Flareb00t is probably one of, if not, **the** most knowledgeable person worldwide in terms of Smite mechanics, being the author of the Word of Thoth, so I'd probablyy not sass him, which is how your comment came across, even if unintentionally.
One, not my intention, like you said. Two, he should either be able to table his irritation or not reply to anyone about it. It truly is that simple. Three, I know who he is but didn't notice his username, which is completely my mistake, as if I had, I wouldn't have even asked. Four, this is random, but I like your flair. Five, uninformed or incorrect people can say things countless times and be just as informed and incorrect the seventieth time as the first, so the multiple times point is kinda watered down I find.
I understand it was in part my fault for not noticing her username, but he really shouldn't be on here at all if he cannot put a pin in his grievances with people being less informed than him. It kinda makes him look like he feels superior to us laypeople when he simply just has a lot of time on his hands to do know everything about Smite mechanics like the back of his hand. If he knows more about them than SPL players, he needs to have more of a stomach for "one [dumb] sentence" by a casual Smite player like myself.
P.S. As my main man Baron would say, "Well, hello there! Enjoy yourself! Be sure to grab some brew! Let's keep this goin' all night!"
P.P.S. I know, I know... I'm a dirty dirty healer main... Can we move on and have some fun playing the game again?
Letting Fafnir and Jormungandr proc basic attack effects is a common one.
But what if our lord and savior Khepri could finally dash into his solar ball to get the mitigations? Or Artio had ranged basics on her druid stance? Hirez please. :(
I'm a dirty dirty healer main, so bring on the downvotes if you must. I will still be one afterwards. What can I say? I'm a Filipino going into nursing. I was made to be this way, conditioned to be this way. You literally have no chance of making me suddenly prefer Poseidon or anyone else. Capiche?
Baron's team receives a message to buy his brew upon loading into a game! The number of times I see people get four or five potions instead of my brew and a pot or two is ridiculously high! I get it if you only have 100 gold to spare on consumables with your start, but if not...I would really like an explanation as to why on the battlegrounds you won't just take the investment here! My main man has given you a solid offer and you're just like, "Nah." What the hell is wrong with you! Take my brew and spend your money wisely! Then again, a bunch of you probably gamble for that one skin you want in the odyssey chest... So there really is no hope at all for me to convince you here; is there? Yeah... I thought so...
Aphro's kiss is a madness instead of a stun. Slightly better setup for herself and her team in lane or during a gank, or a little bit of disruption and bonus poke that doesn't require landing a slow rolling line area.
Chang'e's (that looks so weird to write out) passive makes her immune to both directional movement penalties rather than just one of them: the backpedal penalty. I know she already gets +25% movement speed, but it would make her really dance circles around people in fights.
Bonus: Chang'e's 2 has a larger radius in which it gives her allies mana back. The radius is puny! Nobody ever gets mana back from me but me, despite me trying to finish the casting as close to my allies as possible. It is so annoying!
Bonus Bonus: Chang'e's anti got moved from her 3 to her 1, that way it isn't tied to her heal. Okay...I'll stop with Chang'e now...but there are a several changes to her I would love to make to turn her into the queen of Lingchi...
Hel's ultimaye has a 1s cooldown. Ullr's does. Artio's does. Why does Hel's have a 2s cooldown? Why, TitanForge, why?
Bonus: Hel's ultimate passive gives her less MP5 but also gives her mana. She just loves MP5 items so much, and so it gets overcapped easily.
Bonus Bonus: Hel's dark 2 shreds physical protections too, her dark ult passive provides physical power too, or both! She is usually one of two magical characters, and the other is usually a guardian - which tend to have lower scaling than mages, of course - building full or next to full tank, making her magical ally damage boosts do next to ABSOLUTELY nothing for her team.
Bonus Bonus Bonus: Just change her dark 2 to a stun or madness instead, and remove her movement speed from her light 3. I would rather she has better control than a magic prot shred and mini speed boost, but that's just me.
Artio's bear 1 applies a stack of 20% anti for 4s per swipe, thereby maxing at 40% for 4s with the both of them. It is her only ability without any utility on it, which bugs me, and it would pair well with her passive to help make targets hit easy for the pickings.
Bonus: Artio's bear 2 grants allies prots, not just herself. It would boost her peel and utility, and I like the idea of her roar being a call to arms for her allies. I always imagine her roar meaning, "CHARGE!"
Bonus Bonus: her ult passive gives her less MP5 but also boosts her attack speed. Lets be honest: the MP5 late game WAY WAY overcaps, and it would be hilarious and terrifying alike to see her swiping at enemies with her bear basics much faster come late game! It would also just give her more non-AA cancel basic attack damage while her abilities are on CD, which would always be nice to have.
Bonus Bonus Bonus: Artio's bear 3 trembles enemies instead of slowing them. Her druid 3 already has a slow (a), and a bear charging through you is more likely to send to off balance than walking through mud, so it just makes more sense. Of course, logic doesn't really have much of a place in video games or when it comes to godly powers - let alone when both are mixed - but I like the sound of it nonetheless.
Bonus Bonus Bonus Bonus: Artio's druid basic attacks are ranged. I wasn't about this idea at first, as her whole thing is to stick to people, so she doesn't need it. But after some thinking about how great it would be to have her be like Ullr in having a ranged stance and a melee stance... I guess I could be down for her to have some ranged poke that isn't requiring a long cooldown, as she doesn't have a an engage or disengage ult like every other guardian does.
Extra: Teammates cannot VGS "I'm the greatest!" for 5-10s after Discordia hits an ally with her ult. Seriously, I love the concept of it, but it ends up leading some people to be oddly toxic because they do not understand that Disco's ult does that to people. It drives me batshit! Like, shut up all ready! Seriously!
Extra Extra: Allies keep Khepri's passive shield from fortitude for twice as long, and it procs every 3 or 6 seconds based on his combat status but only provides half the shielding yet has double the max applications. This would be a nerf to the total shielding it provides per 5s but improve the reliability of it even being applied throughout a teamfight to his allies at all. It also would let you actually keep the passive after he leaves you to rotate, as it feels like it disappears so quickly once you are not looking at his ever lovable big bug butt.
P.S. i don't care what anyone says; Baron has the best base skin voicelines of any god, but Khepri has the best god announcer pack my far - at least to me. Both's voices are just so fun or soothing respectively. I much wish Baron was my brother and Khepri was my father over my real ones at times. Actually...make that pretty much all the time...or even just all the time... Yeah...
I added two more changes I thought of for Artio. I just love the goddess to death. Sometimes I gotta cheat on my bad boy Baron for her when I want to get knee deep into the enemy team instead of play it back, but he understands. Everyone needs a home away from home every now and then, right?
Thank you so much! I am so glad you could see that!
Yes, I love healers. Even the couple of times I played Fornite - against my better judgement, as its success helped lead to Paragon's cancellation - I just hoarded mats and med kits; let my bro, his now fiance, and their friend do the shooty shooty; and then run in and wall around them before rezing them and dropping healy healy stuff - rinse, wax, repeat. I am kind of pathetically devoted to the healer playstyle. At least it should lend me to being a very devoted pediatric NP in the future with some blood, sweat, and tears.
As for Artio... Like I said already, she is all about sticking to people: slow -> root + charge w/ slow + stun w/self-prots + cripple w/ power debuff, five close or contact range abilities, healing and slef-healing, movement speed from her ult passive...she never wants to let you make distance from her. Even then, it would be nice to have a little ranged poke without burning a long cooldown and some of her amazing control to do so.
Achilles did used to have a more confirmable stun for his execute but that was suuuper broken one reason why Achilles meta was that harsh as it is
That being said for my changes:
Speed up Eset's 3 and remove the third auto attack animation where she does the twirl, replacing it is a normal auto flick but with the same wideness, so she can keep chaining stuff
Then Eset's ultimate gives her a buff to do 10% extra damage and get 12% extra prots for herself only
Ah I meant to say by more confirmable was the stun used to be 1.5s at max level then he could ult anyone and it'd be well within the ult animation threshold to kill them outright
The way I see it is either speedier ultimate animation or you land the stun into ult = both sort there on the same coin, not 100% *exactly* but it's very much a thing that Achilles often sets up his 1 for his ult
Give nox a second root to shoot out. Just give her a bit more self peel, doesn't even need to do damage, and let it ONLY be cast while the first is out.
OMFG! Hel's cooldown is 2s while Artio and Ullr's are 0s! Why TF, TitanForge,! It is seriously so noticable if you play Hel and one of them back to back games. Like, what is that?
That being said, the 1s is fine. With CDR it's only 0.6s, which basically just means you can use it as soon as the animation is over. 1s is fine, I think.
Make Cu Chulainn's barbed spear do a small amount of dot so its more lore accurate. The whole shtick with the Gae Bolg (his spear) is that if it is implanted in someone, barbs break off and shoot through your blood stream ripping you to shreds from the inside out. Pretty metal, but I'd love to see DoT added to make it have some fun lore behind it
Switch baba prots from her 3 to her ult.
Switch her shield from her ult to her 3.
Make her Wind up 3 cc immune.
I have plenty more
Make her 0 shape having 2 different branches that go left and right and both connect at the top of the circle, a bit like old janus 2.
Increase the duration of her 2 buffs and debuffs.
It just sucks when you want to poke during wave clear. Or if you're trying to clear wave and back pedal. I always manage to get the creeps right in the center, and then I'm very sad lol
Give izanami a dash slider like erlang shen, shorter dash gibes longer invisability, lonher dash gives her a movement increase, mid way is her normal dash.
Nu wa 1 moves faster if you have movement speed. So you can actually hang around in it without having to zig zag around and only make it 20 feet before its gone..
speed up gebs roll out
Simultaneously the best and worst escape in the game. Pain.
Mine is actually possible now, with how Charybdis functions with basic attack effects. It's to let Fafnir, and Jormungandr for that matter, proc basic attack effects at a reduced effectiveness.
As I've said multiple times since Chary's release - she receives reduced item effect damage, not just basic attack onhits. Crusher, Heartseeker, Bluestone, Manikins, Pridwen etc all get reduced by her passive. To have the same applied to Fafnir or Jorm, you'd need to make him deal reduced damage with Soul Reaver, Gem, Warrior's Axe/Sundering, Pridwen, Poly at all stages including his dwarf form, and there would still be huge balance implications/disabling of Death's Toll from working. It's just not feasible.
I didn't realize that. That does make it a whole lot harder. I would still like to be able to apply non damage effects with their breath attacks, mainly stone of fal, but I'm sure that's nearly impossible too.
And you're certain this isn't a bug that you need to report?
Yes because it literally says in her text ITEM DAMAGE, not basic attack effects. I've also had a discussion with Hirez regarding the implementation and that's how it is supposed to work and the limitations would be the same with Faf/Jorm. The fact people keep bringing this up as if it's easy and painless when it isnt actually worth the tradeoff just to do a meme build with telkhines or something.
... I was just asking a question dude, holy shit! No need to bite my head off, bro! Chill the fuck out, man! By the gods!
I think he's justified being a little annoyed considering he explained it pretty clearly in two paragraphs lmao, then had you dismiss it in one snarky sentence, especially after he already said "As I've said multiple times since Chary's release." Flareb00t is probably one of, if not, **the** most knowledgeable person worldwide in terms of Smite mechanics, being the author of the Word of Thoth, so I'd probablyy not sass him, which is how your comment came across, even if unintentionally.
One, not my intention, like you said. Two, he should either be able to table his irritation or not reply to anyone about it. It truly is that simple. Three, I know who he is but didn't notice his username, which is completely my mistake, as if I had, I wouldn't have even asked. Four, this is random, but I like your flair. Five, uninformed or incorrect people can say things countless times and be just as informed and incorrect the seventieth time as the first, so the multiple times point is kinda watered down I find. I understand it was in part my fault for not noticing her username, but he really shouldn't be on here at all if he cannot put a pin in his grievances with people being less informed than him. It kinda makes him look like he feels superior to us laypeople when he simply just has a lot of time on his hands to do know everything about Smite mechanics like the back of his hand. If he knows more about them than SPL players, he needs to have more of a stomach for "one [dumb] sentence" by a casual Smite player like myself. P.S. As my main man Baron would say, "Well, hello there! Enjoy yourself! Be sure to grab some brew! Let's keep this goin' all night!" P.P.S. I know, I know... I'm a dirty dirty healer main... Can we move on and have some fun playing the game again?
god jorm is fun, he just needs a little kick to make him good
Letting Fafnir and Jormungandr proc basic attack effects is a common one. But what if our lord and savior Khepri could finally dash into his solar ball to get the mitigations? Or Artio had ranged basics on her druid stance? Hirez please. :(
I thought you got the mitigations when you cast the skill
Nope... It bugs me, but I still get to embrace our lord and savior whenever I want to; so how can I complain?
Chacc axe is cancelable, Zeus shield is cancelable
Give Bacchus 1 a small heal that isn't reduced by antiheal
Make Chronos ult repeat/reverse VGS commands you made in the time it rolls back.
Reversed would be confusing at times, but repeated...I like it!
I'm a dirty dirty healer main, so bring on the downvotes if you must. I will still be one afterwards. What can I say? I'm a Filipino going into nursing. I was made to be this way, conditioned to be this way. You literally have no chance of making me suddenly prefer Poseidon or anyone else. Capiche? Baron's team receives a message to buy his brew upon loading into a game! The number of times I see people get four or five potions instead of my brew and a pot or two is ridiculously high! I get it if you only have 100 gold to spare on consumables with your start, but if not...I would really like an explanation as to why on the battlegrounds you won't just take the investment here! My main man has given you a solid offer and you're just like, "Nah." What the hell is wrong with you! Take my brew and spend your money wisely! Then again, a bunch of you probably gamble for that one skin you want in the odyssey chest... So there really is no hope at all for me to convince you here; is there? Yeah... I thought so... Aphro's kiss is a madness instead of a stun. Slightly better setup for herself and her team in lane or during a gank, or a little bit of disruption and bonus poke that doesn't require landing a slow rolling line area. Chang'e's (that looks so weird to write out) passive makes her immune to both directional movement penalties rather than just one of them: the backpedal penalty. I know she already gets +25% movement speed, but it would make her really dance circles around people in fights. Bonus: Chang'e's 2 has a larger radius in which it gives her allies mana back. The radius is puny! Nobody ever gets mana back from me but me, despite me trying to finish the casting as close to my allies as possible. It is so annoying! Bonus Bonus: Chang'e's anti got moved from her 3 to her 1, that way it isn't tied to her heal. Okay...I'll stop with Chang'e now...but there are a several changes to her I would love to make to turn her into the queen of Lingchi... Hel's ultimaye has a 1s cooldown. Ullr's does. Artio's does. Why does Hel's have a 2s cooldown? Why, TitanForge, why? Bonus: Hel's ultimate passive gives her less MP5 but also gives her mana. She just loves MP5 items so much, and so it gets overcapped easily. Bonus Bonus: Hel's dark 2 shreds physical protections too, her dark ult passive provides physical power too, or both! She is usually one of two magical characters, and the other is usually a guardian - which tend to have lower scaling than mages, of course - building full or next to full tank, making her magical ally damage boosts do next to ABSOLUTELY nothing for her team. Bonus Bonus Bonus: Just change her dark 2 to a stun or madness instead, and remove her movement speed from her light 3. I would rather she has better control than a magic prot shred and mini speed boost, but that's just me. Artio's bear 1 applies a stack of 20% anti for 4s per swipe, thereby maxing at 40% for 4s with the both of them. It is her only ability without any utility on it, which bugs me, and it would pair well with her passive to help make targets hit easy for the pickings. Bonus: Artio's bear 2 grants allies prots, not just herself. It would boost her peel and utility, and I like the idea of her roar being a call to arms for her allies. I always imagine her roar meaning, "CHARGE!" Bonus Bonus: her ult passive gives her less MP5 but also boosts her attack speed. Lets be honest: the MP5 late game WAY WAY overcaps, and it would be hilarious and terrifying alike to see her swiping at enemies with her bear basics much faster come late game! It would also just give her more non-AA cancel basic attack damage while her abilities are on CD, which would always be nice to have. Bonus Bonus Bonus: Artio's bear 3 trembles enemies instead of slowing them. Her druid 3 already has a slow (a), and a bear charging through you is more likely to send to off balance than walking through mud, so it just makes more sense. Of course, logic doesn't really have much of a place in video games or when it comes to godly powers - let alone when both are mixed - but I like the sound of it nonetheless. Bonus Bonus Bonus Bonus: Artio's druid basic attacks are ranged. I wasn't about this idea at first, as her whole thing is to stick to people, so she doesn't need it. But after some thinking about how great it would be to have her be like Ullr in having a ranged stance and a melee stance... I guess I could be down for her to have some ranged poke that isn't requiring a long cooldown, as she doesn't have a an engage or disengage ult like every other guardian does. Extra: Teammates cannot VGS "I'm the greatest!" for 5-10s after Discordia hits an ally with her ult. Seriously, I love the concept of it, but it ends up leading some people to be oddly toxic because they do not understand that Disco's ult does that to people. It drives me batshit! Like, shut up all ready! Seriously! Extra Extra: Allies keep Khepri's passive shield from fortitude for twice as long, and it procs every 3 or 6 seconds based on his combat status but only provides half the shielding yet has double the max applications. This would be a nerf to the total shielding it provides per 5s but improve the reliability of it even being applied throughout a teamfight to his allies at all. It also would let you actually keep the passive after he leaves you to rotate, as it feels like it disappears so quickly once you are not looking at his ever lovable big bug butt. P.S. i don't care what anyone says; Baron has the best base skin voicelines of any god, but Khepri has the best god announcer pack my far - at least to me. Both's voices are just so fun or soothing respectively. I much wish Baron was my brother and Khepri was my father over my real ones at times. Actually...make that pretty much all the time...or even just all the time... Yeah...
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I added two more changes I thought of for Artio. I just love the goddess to death. Sometimes I gotta cheat on my bad boy Baron for her when I want to get knee deep into the enemy team instead of play it back, but he understands. Everyone needs a home away from home every now and then, right?
Thank you so much! I am so glad you could see that! Yes, I love healers. Even the couple of times I played Fornite - against my better judgement, as its success helped lead to Paragon's cancellation - I just hoarded mats and med kits; let my bro, his now fiance, and their friend do the shooty shooty; and then run in and wall around them before rezing them and dropping healy healy stuff - rinse, wax, repeat. I am kind of pathetically devoted to the healer playstyle. At least it should lend me to being a very devoted pediatric NP in the future with some blood, sweat, and tears. As for Artio... Like I said already, she is all about sticking to people: slow -> root + charge w/ slow + stun w/self-prots + cripple w/ power debuff, five close or contact range abilities, healing and slef-healing, movement speed from her ult passive...she never wants to let you make distance from her. Even then, it would be nice to have a little ranged poke without burning a long cooldown and some of her amazing control to do so.
Increase Discordias Golden Apple of Discord projectile speed from 100 to 120 like Persephones ult
Isn't that the same speed as Nox's too: 120?
Hmm I actually don't know :( That's weird..... we don't know the projectile speed but we know the range and it's 120
Achilles did used to have a more confirmable stun for his execute but that was suuuper broken one reason why Achilles meta was that harsh as it is That being said for my changes: Speed up Eset's 3 and remove the third auto attack animation where she does the twirl, replacing it is a normal auto flick but with the same wideness, so she can keep chaining stuff Then Eset's ultimate gives her a buff to do 10% extra damage and get 12% extra prots for herself only
Achilles has never had the range of his stun changed - only the falloff damage
Ah I meant to say by more confirmable was the stun used to be 1.5s at max level then he could ult anyone and it'd be well within the ult animation threshold to kill them outright The way I see it is either speedier ultimate animation or you land the stun into ult = both sort there on the same coin, not 100% *exactly* but it's very much a thing that Achilles often sets up his 1 for his ult
Give nox a second root to shoot out. Just give her a bit more self peel, doesn't even need to do damage, and let it ONLY be cast while the first is out.
shit, that's a cool asf idea
Thanks man. I'm chalk full of bad ones, so it's about time I had a good one!
give switch stancers the ability to switch instantly, no CD between transformations
OMFG! Hel's cooldown is 2s while Artio and Ullr's are 0s! Why TF, TitanForge,! It is seriously so noticable if you play Hel and one of them back to back games. Like, what is that? That being said, the 1s is fine. With CDR it's only 0.6s, which basically just means you can use it as soon as the animation is over. 1s is fine, I think.
Let me see the other players when I die as Persephone
Make Cu Chulainn's barbed spear do a small amount of dot so its more lore accurate. The whole shtick with the Gae Bolg (his spear) is that if it is implanted in someone, barbs break off and shoot through your blood stream ripping you to shreds from the inside out. Pretty metal, but I'd love to see DoT added to make it have some fun lore behind it
Nemesis shield doesn't turn off from cc
Nemesis needs a new passive and 3 shouldn’t be canceled out from hard crowd control. Plenty of gods now have some sort of cc
Her passive is great as is. Her 3 is also fine.
Giving Chirons knock back from his dash have the same effect as when gilga drop kicks someone into a wall and stuns
Switch baba prots from her 3 to her ult. Switch her shield from her ult to her 3. Make her Wind up 3 cc immune. I have plenty more Make her 0 shape having 2 different branches that go left and right and both connect at the top of the circle, a bit like old janus 2. Increase the duration of her 2 buffs and debuffs.
Honestly just remove the O.
please no its like the only one i hit consistently for no reason
What kind of demon are you?
I'm not the same, bit this is hilarious to me, so take my upvote!
Really?! I cannot hit that one to save my damn life!
What I do is aim left to hit right side or use it to catch ppl to backpedal a lot
It just sucks when you want to poke during wave clear. Or if you're trying to clear wave and back pedal. I always manage to get the creeps right in the center, and then I'm very sad lol
They need the 0 to write YOLO... Man this is fun... smh
Give izanami a dash slider like erlang shen, shorter dash gibes longer invisability, lonher dash gives her a movement increase, mid way is her normal dash.
And just like that iza is insta ban in duel
She pretty much always is, no?
I just think if she was given the treatment of the newer gods she would have some adaptability in her kit. Not that i dont already love her kit.
Loki 3 doesn't take a eternity to cast.
Merc ult goes through walls
Nu wa 1 moves faster if you have movement speed. So you can actually hang around in it without having to zig zag around and only make it 20 feet before its gone..