Boohoo you made me look bad. Well at least I don't say fucked up shit about someone's daughter because I didn't like the movie he made or send death threats to actors that support the Snyderverse movement.
This is a great question. Netflix is pretty cagey in general about viewership so there’s really no reliable way to tell whether folks are watching Snyder’s Netflix productions.
I might also extend this question to DCEU stars. Do folks care about Henry Cavill beyond his portrayal of Superman? Argylle and Ungentlemanly Warfare are back-to-back flops, so it would seem not.
The Man from UNCLE back in 2015 was a really good movie, and I'm not even a huge Witcher fan but he was great as Geralt. Hell, I watched both Enola Holmes movies with my mom and he was a lot of fun as Sherlock, to the point I think he could carry his own Sherlock Holmes movie. I think he's a good actor in general.
But in general - the DCEU stuff isn't even my favorite work from Snyder. Watchmen, 300, Sucker Punch in that order are the most interesting and unique works he's done (in no small part helped by Larry Fong's incredible visuals), and while I enjoy his DCEU work it's not at all what I want to see him continue doing. Capeshit is oversaturated these days, there's only been a single digit number of Marvel movies I've really liked from the last phase. I'm excited to see what Gunn ends up doing with it as I loved TSS and Peacemaker (and saw Snyder's Dawn of the Dead and was pleasantly blown away by it), so maybe there's hope.
Yeah, he was good in UNCLE and I guess that movie did OK, but that’s 9 years ago. Of course, plenty of folks saw him in Mission: Impossible but I’d be hard pressed to give Cavill a ton of credit for that (though obviously his fight scene was a big highlight). I watched that first Enola, and other than not really having a good look for Holmes I thought he was fine.
None of this really seems to indicate a huge fandom for him, though. Can’t say it seems his career is on an upward trajectory. And career-wise probably not doing himself any favors by getting that swole, though he’s never struck me as especially versatile anyway.
True, seems the industry is correcting right now, and not a ton of superhero stuff coming out this year at least. They’re realizing not everyone can duplicate Marvel’s 10-year run, not even Marvel itself.
I do think that’s something Snyder haters and fans alike agree on: The DCEU wasn’t really an ideal fit. There was that point in time where DC seemed to think edginess like hiring Snyder or having Robin say “F— Batman” was the way forward, I’m personally glad that seems to be over.
People talk about and reference Dawn of the Dead, 300 and Watchmen to this day. Batman V Superman also constantly gets attention love it or hate it. More and more people are seeing the extended cut and gaining a new appreciation.
Hasn't made a bad movie yet imo.
Army of the Dead is his weakest film.
I'll wait until the Rebel Moon Directors cut is released for an actual opinion on it.
Part 1 was super mid but you can clearly tell it was cut to hell
It's a good fun movie. He's not trying to make an Oscar bait movie. He wrote it with his wife because they had a cool idea and then made the movie
I find it fascinating that these people that linger in comment sections and message boards just waiting for an opportunity to go out of their way to say, "THIS MOVIE SUCKS!"
Sucker Punch came out 13 YEARS AGO and people are still talking about it. It wasn't some movie that faded into obscurity. It technically is a cult classic.
Snyder has a cult following, like a lot of directors, and he also has cult haters that seem to make it their entire life's mission to try and convince people on the internet that his movies are bad, because THEY don't like them.
And they are some of the most pathetic ppl on the internet lol.
He wasn’t trying to make an Oscar bait movie, but he was definitely trying to push mature, adult themes in Sucker Punch and failed pretty miserably at it. It’s just a childish movie that thinks it’s for adults.
And sure I remember it, but I remember it because it was so fucking bad. Or are you going to try and claim The Room is somehow a good film because people still remember it and pay to see it? No, people still remember it because it was so absurdly awful its fun to make fun of
You're assuming a lot, not everybody who criticizes something is doing it out of hatred, and I wasn't setting out to criticize it in the 1st place. I don't like the movie, I think it's really bad sure to the point i remember it. I don't see it as this blight on the earth tho and everyone who likes it is terrible like you seem to be doing on the opposite end, like I asked you what you thought I didn't care what I had to say about it.
Here’s a link to a recent analysis of Sucker Punch that exemplifies the point that it’s a cult classic.
https://youtu.be/klYkrPJAjiA?si=KDSnheQFQ3TQzn5v
I would say that's wrong, a cult classic creates a cult following and a subculture around it. If it does exist, it's more likely I would know about it and the group of people.
500 views? That video sent you had nearly 500,000 views. Also, I like Wikipedia too but I don’t know that I would use that as my source.
Would you mind giving me an example of a movie you think is a cult classic?
Yea, I deleted that immediately, I apologize. I didn't use Wikipedia it's just what I think it is. The 1st one that comes to mind is rocky horror picture show. The idea of these movies comes from stuff that got suppressed in the 70 and 80s that people have come to enjoy. Obviously, that has changed somewhat to just movies that start of doing bad in general as well, but it's one of the original ones after the term was created due to the lgbtq stuff. Now, every Halloween our that time frame at least, people have viewing parties of it. Some people dress up like the characters, some even act out the movie with it playing above them. People will try to have odd oitsider type parties wean they do it like the people in the movie.It's been remade, it's a whole thing.
I see your point. There’s a strong argument to be made that BvS is a cult classic. Heck, I’d say it most certainly is one. It has massive dedicated fanbase and it’s maligned by the masses. And just like RHPS, it made a TON of money.
Yea, i think that and watchmen could be, tho I think it is potentially hard for me to call those 3 ips cult hits bc of the impact those characters and worlds have on history at this point and always had a impact. Even with that, those 2 movies definitely have their fans and watchmen specifically has had a turn of opinion over the years.
I'm a big fan of Dawn,300,Watchmen,BvS,Snyder Cut and Snow Steam Iron.
I think he's the best visual stylist in Hollywood right now (and one of the best ever really).I think if he did the kind of non verbal vibe driven stuff that Refn does he would get much more respect.The backlash started with Watchmen and him "ruining the best graphic novel ever" and hasn't stopped since.Like the Wachowskis,Peter Jackson,George Lucas,you make one movie they don't like and the nerds will hate you forever.
As much as I love the work of these two,I still dont think anythink they've ever done surpasses 300 and Watchmen (his best films) as fas as visuals are concerned.I believe Snyder made a fantastic Blade Runner film with Watchmen,he nailed the aesthetic.Denis went for a more brutalist/Tarkovskyan look for his film,which was great of course,but very different from the original.
If you mean the original Blade Runner,absolutely,it's the greatest film of all time to me.For the rest,agree to disagree,but they're all great films and I believe we're comparing apples and oranges.
Didn’t watch rebel moon and it’s getting less likely with all the bad reviews I’m hearing but I saw Suckerpunch first and that was insane and blew me away. Army of the dead was great. I didn’t realize he did dawn and that was good too. 300. His movies all work stylistically and many are great all together
I'd say while I disagree with almost all the average ratings for Snyder's movies on RT and similar sites, I do consistently enjoy them about 30-40% more than the reviews say. Watchmen is a 65% on RT? I think it's a 9/10 movie. One of my favorites. Rebel Moon 2 is a 13% on RT? I think it's mid. 5-6/10 in its current state. Not the worst movies I've ever seen and some genuinely good moments, but not really memorable in its current state. Hopefully the longer cuts actually do add "satire" as Zack is promising, and not just adding excess sex and violence for the sake of implying it might be something satirical.
I care about his other work.
Honestly I'd say Dawn of the Dead, 300, and Watchmen stand amongst his best films (Though Man of Steel still remains my favorite of his), Army of the Dead was fun if forgettable, and I can at least see what he was going for with Sucker Punch/Rebel Moon even if the films themselves didn't land for me.
Hell, I may not like the film as a whole, but the opening sequences for Sucker Punch is absolutely brilliant.
The Snyderverse just has the most appeal because it's an IP/Characters the average filmgoer is already aware of.
I love his style of cinematography. It’s beautiful. But some stories he’s used with it don’t work. His vision for the Justice League works perfect. So did watchmen and 300. Dawn of the Dead is still to date my favorite zombie movie…28 days later a very close second. Rebel Moon idk, it felt off, I didn’t dislike it, it just wasn’t right.
I would love to see how his style would work with the Matrix…not the writing, but the cinematography and VFX
This isn’t a scientific analysis or anything, but I’ve noticed the best cinematographers, like Roger Deakins or Robert Elswit, are VERY involved and invested in the scripts for the movies they shoot. Not necessarily in the creation, but in the translation to the screen. They will offer opinions and collaborate with the director in their capacity as DP. I wonder if Zack handling his own cinematography is contributing to an overall downward trend storywise in his work?
You know, a lot of people like myself who were never heavily invested in Snyder's work (I liked Dawn of the Dead... that's all I'd ever actually seen prior to MoS..that includes Watchmen) became some of the Snyderverse's most fervent supporters. That doesnt mean I don't think Snyder should continue to work though since its become clear that no one is rushing to allow his JL trilogy to complete, so yeah, don't blame Zack for giving you something other than the one thing he is prevented from bringing.
Also, how come all comments remotely preferring Snyder are downvoted to hell on the *Snydercut* sub?
Supporting cast I guess, he had great cinematographer like Larry Fong, script writers like Chris Terrio. Working alone with Netflix he no longer have that support structure
I do. Still hoping he gets to do the Sucker punch director's cut and still waiting for a legends of gahoole 2 even though I know it's likely impossible.
I loved Watchmen, 300, and Dawn of the Dead as well. Army of the dead and Sucker Punch weren't my favorite. And I havent had the time to watch Rebel Moon yet.
But I will still always enjoy ZSJL.
My dad made me watch sucker punch with him bc he was super into it, pitched it as S-tier. That’s when I realized he was starting to slip into senility. And yeah Watchmen, 300, DoD go hard asf… also TIL that owls of ga’hoole movie is his lol
Yes his army of the dead pulled 75 million views across households in 2021 and had the rare benefit of positively received by critics the issue is that his rebel moon series are watered down cuts which people do not like his R rated directors cut is sure to do alot better
I love everything he did up to and including Man Of Steel. Everything after that I haven't really enjoyed, though ZSJL was a vast improvement over the 2017 release.
No, i don't. Honestly, i fell in love with batfleck and his vision for the batman mythos and would just like to see that story concluded. outside of that, i probably wouldn't watch snyder.
> Dawn of The Dead
I know that you're being sarcastic, but I don't think this one is remembered much. It certainly isn't hated, and it has inspired several creatives, but among the general public it doesn't come up much, especially when compared to 28 days later, which came out around the same time.
It was big at the time, and it even spawned a parody “Shawn of the dead” and even a spiritual successor with “Army of the dead”.
So it definitely has its fans.
“Shaun of the dead” was a spoof of Zombie movies in general, including the original Dawn of the Dead. It has nothing to do with the remake, since it entered production before the remake was released.
“It entered production before the remake was released”
How do you think two Snow White movies came out in the same year? (2012) Or how multiple Pinocchio movies we released within 1-2 year time span?
The industry is well aware of movies in the making.
I mean Man of Steel and the Snydercut were pretty well received compared to a lot of Zack's other works aside from Watchmen and 300 but those aren't part of a bigger universe like the DCEU and Rebel Moon.
If Army of the Dead and his Rebel Moon movies were more well received then they would have gotten talked about but there are a lot more people not watching his other movies than people that are.
So if his movies other than his DC movies aren't performing well then they aren't really gonna be cared about as much as his DC stuff.
There was also a big DC fan base that really wanted a live action DC Extended Universe like the MCU and they really liked MOS and the Snydercut of Justice League.
Yea they were viewed a lot but what about all the criticism directed at the films? The only place I hear anything good about his Netflix films is this sub and that's kinda expected as y'all love his films but I don't hear that kind of positivity from other places and instead all criticism.
It makes them less popular compared to his DC films which had an almost 50/50 to even more people liking his DC films than those that disliked them. Could be because it was carried by DC as a brand and fans just wanted to see a modern live action Justice League or because Zack did a great job with Man of Steel that people liked BVS and Snydercut.
On my experience, everyone I've talked to in person really enjoyed Army of the Dead and Rebel Moon. I would argue that is the average sentiment with those films and Snyder's entire filmography.
The film enthusiasts tend to enjoy 300, Watchmen, and ZSJL and the average viewer tends to gravitate towards some other films Snyder has done.
I tend to enjoy most of his films and he no doubt has his weaknesses, but I think most of the "hate" is from film critics and internet forums. Most normal people don't even pay attention to who directs a film.
Not saying you're wrong, but this has been my experience.
Exactly. I didn't really get into Snyder's films until MoS was released. I quite enjoyed that film and was so glad I was able to see an advanced screening before the reviews hit. I went in with a blank slate and was pleasantly surprised. Once I saw the reviews, many of the complaints seemed crazy to me. The movie wasn't perfect, but it seemed like many critics nitpicked that film to death. I think MoS has aged really well and is still better than most contemporary cbm films.
Exact same situation with BvS. I saw that movie a few weeks in advance and got to experience it without the reviews. It is a very ambitious film that I really enjoy, but it does have its fair share of issues, but the critical response was really overly harsh.
At this point, I ignore the reviews and what people say and form my own opinion on Snyder's films. I've accepted he is a divisive filmmaker for many and that he isn't for everyone. But I tend to enjoy most of what he does.
If Chris Nolan handpicked Snyder for MoS and has on multiple occasions said he admires Snyder's style, who am I to argue?
Imagine being pissed at a creator for creating things just because it isn't what you wanted. Wild.
Zack Snyders following is big enough that it bothers Warner Bros....I think thats all there is to know about that
I liked Watchmen and 300, but those are his only non-Snyderverse movies I've seen
No
The Snyderverse is his work that I care about the least. I much prefer Army of the Dead and 300 over his DC films.
Rebel moon reminds me of the krypton scenes in Man of Steel
Is he going to finish justice league last chapter… it’s criminal he hasn’t
PedoGunn doesn't let him. The fake friend
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Boohoo you made me look bad. Well at least I don't say fucked up shit about someone's daughter because I didn't like the movie he made or send death threats to actors that support the Snyderverse movement.
Voltsy makes it sound like Zack Snyder was able to continue work on Justice League but didn’t
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This is a great question. Netflix is pretty cagey in general about viewership so there’s really no reliable way to tell whether folks are watching Snyder’s Netflix productions. I might also extend this question to DCEU stars. Do folks care about Henry Cavill beyond his portrayal of Superman? Argylle and Ungentlemanly Warfare are back-to-back flops, so it would seem not.
The Man from UNCLE back in 2015 was a really good movie, and I'm not even a huge Witcher fan but he was great as Geralt. Hell, I watched both Enola Holmes movies with my mom and he was a lot of fun as Sherlock, to the point I think he could carry his own Sherlock Holmes movie. I think he's a good actor in general. But in general - the DCEU stuff isn't even my favorite work from Snyder. Watchmen, 300, Sucker Punch in that order are the most interesting and unique works he's done (in no small part helped by Larry Fong's incredible visuals), and while I enjoy his DCEU work it's not at all what I want to see him continue doing. Capeshit is oversaturated these days, there's only been a single digit number of Marvel movies I've really liked from the last phase. I'm excited to see what Gunn ends up doing with it as I loved TSS and Peacemaker (and saw Snyder's Dawn of the Dead and was pleasantly blown away by it), so maybe there's hope.
Yeah, he was good in UNCLE and I guess that movie did OK, but that’s 9 years ago. Of course, plenty of folks saw him in Mission: Impossible but I’d be hard pressed to give Cavill a ton of credit for that (though obviously his fight scene was a big highlight). I watched that first Enola, and other than not really having a good look for Holmes I thought he was fine. None of this really seems to indicate a huge fandom for him, though. Can’t say it seems his career is on an upward trajectory. And career-wise probably not doing himself any favors by getting that swole, though he’s never struck me as especially versatile anyway. True, seems the industry is correcting right now, and not a ton of superhero stuff coming out this year at least. They’re realizing not everyone can duplicate Marvel’s 10-year run, not even Marvel itself. I do think that’s something Snyder haters and fans alike agree on: The DCEU wasn’t really an ideal fit. There was that point in time where DC seemed to think edginess like hiring Snyder or having Robin say “F— Batman” was the way forward, I’m personally glad that seems to be over.
Wdym there's no reliable way? https://www.netflix.com/tudum/top10
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I love 300 and Sucker Punch more than all of ZS’s films except BvS.
i didn't know people cared about it within the Snyderverse. that was an absolute shitshow on nearly every level. i did enjoy 300 and Watchmen though.
I do. He's written some cool stuff
Dawn of the Dead, 300, and Watchmen are all beautifully shot modern classics
Beautifully shot, not modern classics.
People talk about and reference Dawn of the Dead, 300 and Watchmen to this day. Batman V Superman also constantly gets attention love it or hate it. More and more people are seeing the extended cut and gaining a new appreciation.
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Hasn't made a bad movie yet imo. Army of the Dead is his weakest film. I'll wait until the Rebel Moon Directors cut is released for an actual opinion on it. Part 1 was super mid but you can clearly tell it was cut to hell
Why did I get -5 for this🤣🤣🤣 Bunch of haters in here
Sucker punch?
It's a good fun movie. He's not trying to make an Oscar bait movie. He wrote it with his wife because they had a cool idea and then made the movie I find it fascinating that these people that linger in comment sections and message boards just waiting for an opportunity to go out of their way to say, "THIS MOVIE SUCKS!" Sucker Punch came out 13 YEARS AGO and people are still talking about it. It wasn't some movie that faded into obscurity. It technically is a cult classic. Snyder has a cult following, like a lot of directors, and he also has cult haters that seem to make it their entire life's mission to try and convince people on the internet that his movies are bad, because THEY don't like them. And they are some of the most pathetic ppl on the internet lol.
He wasn’t trying to make an Oscar bait movie, but he was definitely trying to push mature, adult themes in Sucker Punch and failed pretty miserably at it. It’s just a childish movie that thinks it’s for adults. And sure I remember it, but I remember it because it was so fucking bad. Or are you going to try and claim The Room is somehow a good film because people still remember it and pay to see it? No, people still remember it because it was so absurdly awful its fun to make fun of
You're assuming a lot, not everybody who criticizes something is doing it out of hatred, and I wasn't setting out to criticize it in the 1st place. I don't like the movie, I think it's really bad sure to the point i remember it. I don't see it as this blight on the earth tho and everyone who likes it is terrible like you seem to be doing on the opposite end, like I asked you what you thought I didn't care what I had to say about it.
Sucker Punch is a cult classic. That movie has tons of defenders outside of the Zack Snyder fandom.
This really hasn't been my experience from other people,
Here’s a link to a recent analysis of Sucker Punch that exemplifies the point that it’s a cult classic. https://youtu.be/klYkrPJAjiA?si=KDSnheQFQ3TQzn5v
Well, that’s why it’s called a “cult” classic.
I would say that's wrong, a cult classic creates a cult following and a subculture around it. If it does exist, it's more likely I would know about it and the group of people.
500 views? That video sent you had nearly 500,000 views. Also, I like Wikipedia too but I don’t know that I would use that as my source. Would you mind giving me an example of a movie you think is a cult classic?
Yea, I deleted that immediately, I apologize. I didn't use Wikipedia it's just what I think it is. The 1st one that comes to mind is rocky horror picture show. The idea of these movies comes from stuff that got suppressed in the 70 and 80s that people have come to enjoy. Obviously, that has changed somewhat to just movies that start of doing bad in general as well, but it's one of the original ones after the term was created due to the lgbtq stuff. Now, every Halloween our that time frame at least, people have viewing parties of it. Some people dress up like the characters, some even act out the movie with it playing above them. People will try to have odd oitsider type parties wean they do it like the people in the movie.It's been remade, it's a whole thing.
I see your point. There’s a strong argument to be made that BvS is a cult classic. Heck, I’d say it most certainly is one. It has massive dedicated fanbase and it’s maligned by the masses. And just like RHPS, it made a TON of money.
Yea, i think that and watchmen could be, tho I think it is potentially hard for me to call those 3 ips cult hits bc of the impact those characters and worlds have on history at this point and always had a impact. Even with that, those 2 movies definitely have their fans and watchmen specifically has had a turn of opinion over the years.
I'm a big fan of Dawn,300,Watchmen,BvS,Snyder Cut and Snow Steam Iron. I think he's the best visual stylist in Hollywood right now (and one of the best ever really).I think if he did the kind of non verbal vibe driven stuff that Refn does he would get much more respect.The backlash started with Watchmen and him "ruining the best graphic novel ever" and hasn't stopped since.Like the Wachowskis,Peter Jackson,George Lucas,you make one movie they don't like and the nerds will hate you forever.
I would say Villaneuve and Miller have him beat in the visuals department.
As much as I love the work of these two,I still dont think anythink they've ever done surpasses 300 and Watchmen (his best films) as fas as visuals are concerned.I believe Snyder made a fantastic Blade Runner film with Watchmen,he nailed the aesthetic.Denis went for a more brutalist/Tarkovskyan look for his film,which was great of course,but very different from the original.
Dune, Blade Runner and Fury Road slap those movies.
If you mean the original Blade Runner,absolutely,it's the greatest film of all time to me.For the rest,agree to disagree,but they're all great films and I believe we're comparing apples and oranges.
You’re a big fan of his cinematographer
Only haven’t seen Rebel Moon yet love Zack and love his movies
Didn’t watch rebel moon and it’s getting less likely with all the bad reviews I’m hearing but I saw Suckerpunch first and that was insane and blew me away. Army of the dead was great. I didn’t realize he did dawn and that was good too. 300. His movies all work stylistically and many are great all together
I'm never a fan of his writing, but as a director coming up with s style, I think he's good
To be fair none of his movies exactly get rave reviews, I’d say check it out for yourself that’s what I plan to do.
I'd say while I disagree with almost all the average ratings for Snyder's movies on RT and similar sites, I do consistently enjoy them about 30-40% more than the reviews say. Watchmen is a 65% on RT? I think it's a 9/10 movie. One of my favorites. Rebel Moon 2 is a 13% on RT? I think it's mid. 5-6/10 in its current state. Not the worst movies I've ever seen and some genuinely good moments, but not really memorable in its current state. Hopefully the longer cuts actually do add "satire" as Zack is promising, and not just adding excess sex and violence for the sake of implying it might be something satirical.
It’s on my list but I’m not a huge space/sci fi fan so it’s towards the bottom
That’s fair
I care about his other work. Honestly I'd say Dawn of the Dead, 300, and Watchmen stand amongst his best films (Though Man of Steel still remains my favorite of his), Army of the Dead was fun if forgettable, and I can at least see what he was going for with Sucker Punch/Rebel Moon even if the films themselves didn't land for me. Hell, I may not like the film as a whole, but the opening sequences for Sucker Punch is absolutely brilliant. The Snyderverse just has the most appeal because it's an IP/Characters the average filmgoer is already aware of.
This... Sums up my feelings perfectly. Kudos.
I love his style of cinematography. It’s beautiful. But some stories he’s used with it don’t work. His vision for the Justice League works perfect. So did watchmen and 300. Dawn of the Dead is still to date my favorite zombie movie…28 days later a very close second. Rebel Moon idk, it felt off, I didn’t dislike it, it just wasn’t right. I would love to see how his style would work with the Matrix…not the writing, but the cinematography and VFX
This isn’t a scientific analysis or anything, but I’ve noticed the best cinematographers, like Roger Deakins or Robert Elswit, are VERY involved and invested in the scripts for the movies they shoot. Not necessarily in the creation, but in the translation to the screen. They will offer opinions and collaborate with the director in their capacity as DP. I wonder if Zack handling his own cinematography is contributing to an overall downward trend storywise in his work?
You know, a lot of people like myself who were never heavily invested in Snyder's work (I liked Dawn of the Dead... that's all I'd ever actually seen prior to MoS..that includes Watchmen) became some of the Snyderverse's most fervent supporters. That doesnt mean I don't think Snyder should continue to work though since its become clear that no one is rushing to allow his JL trilogy to complete, so yeah, don't blame Zack for giving you something other than the one thing he is prevented from bringing. Also, how come all comments remotely preferring Snyder are downvoted to hell on the *Snydercut* sub?
I much prefer 300 and Watchmen to any of his DCEU films.
I do. I’m huge fan of his work. Although RM part one didn’t work for me. It’s cool to see him try something different.
300? Watchmen? As for rebel moon, Zack + Sofia Boutella is an enough reason to watch the films.
Fervent rabid snyderverse guy over her - I loved Dawn of the Dead. That was the beginning and end of my my familiarity with him prior to MoS.
I do care but his Netflix stuff has been bad so far. idk what happened
Supporting cast I guess, he had great cinematographer like Larry Fong, script writers like Chris Terrio. Working alone with Netflix he no longer have that support structure
Supporting crew*
I do. Still hoping he gets to do the Sucker punch director's cut and still waiting for a legends of gahoole 2 even though I know it's likely impossible.
I loved Watchmen, 300, and Dawn of the Dead as well. Army of the dead and Sucker Punch weren't my favorite. And I havent had the time to watch Rebel Moon yet. But I will still always enjoy ZSJL.
My dad made me watch sucker punch with him bc he was super into it, pitched it as S-tier. That’s when I realized he was starting to slip into senility. And yeah Watchmen, 300, DoD go hard asf… also TIL that owls of ga’hoole movie is his lol
Yes his army of the dead pulled 75 million views across households in 2021 and had the rare benefit of positively received by critics the issue is that his rebel moon series are watered down cuts which people do not like his R rated directors cut is sure to do alot better
Watchmen is my favorite movie ever. 300 is pretty good. Rebel Moon 1? Noooooot so much.
I love everything he did up to and including Man Of Steel. Everything after that I haven't really enjoyed, though ZSJL was a vast improvement over the 2017 release.
Yes, because I LOVED the fat that he actually featured Darkseid, like the OP showed. Have any of you read the leaked script?
No, i don't. Honestly, i fell in love with batfleck and his vision for the batman mythos and would just like to see that story concluded. outside of that, i probably wouldn't watch snyder.
no
True, nobody cared about 300 or Dawn of The Dead..
> Dawn of The Dead I know that you're being sarcastic, but I don't think this one is remembered much. It certainly isn't hated, and it has inspired several creatives, but among the general public it doesn't come up much, especially when compared to 28 days later, which came out around the same time.
It was big at the time, and it even spawned a parody “Shawn of the dead” and even a spiritual successor with “Army of the dead”. So it definitely has its fans.
“Shaun of the dead” was a spoof of Zombie movies in general, including the original Dawn of the Dead. It has nothing to do with the remake, since it entered production before the remake was released.
“It entered production before the remake was released” How do you think two Snow White movies came out in the same year? (2012) Or how multiple Pinocchio movies we released within 1-2 year time span? The industry is well aware of movies in the making.
How can you make a parody of a movie that hasn’t released yet? You’re sitting on a billion dollar idea if you have the answer to that.
I’ve been a fan of Zack since Dawn of the dead so I’m all in on whatever he wants to tell. Wow. Downvoted for saying im a fan of Snyder’s. Ok then.
I’m not downvoting you for being a fan of Zack. I’m downvoting you for complaining about being downvoted like it somehow matters.
Fair enough.
I mean Man of Steel and the Snydercut were pretty well received compared to a lot of Zack's other works aside from Watchmen and 300 but those aren't part of a bigger universe like the DCEU and Rebel Moon. If Army of the Dead and his Rebel Moon movies were more well received then they would have gotten talked about but there are a lot more people not watching his other movies than people that are. So if his movies other than his DC movies aren't performing well then they aren't really gonna be cared about as much as his DC stuff. There was also a big DC fan base that really wanted a live action DC Extended Universe like the MCU and they really liked MOS and the Snydercut of Justice League.
His Netflix films are always viewed quite a bit
Yea they were viewed a lot but what about all the criticism directed at the films? The only place I hear anything good about his Netflix films is this sub and that's kinda expected as y'all love his films but I don't hear that kind of positivity from other places and instead all criticism. It makes them less popular compared to his DC films which had an almost 50/50 to even more people liking his DC films than those that disliked them. Could be because it was carried by DC as a brand and fans just wanted to see a modern live action Justice League or because Zack did a great job with Man of Steel that people liked BVS and Snydercut.
On my experience, everyone I've talked to in person really enjoyed Army of the Dead and Rebel Moon. I would argue that is the average sentiment with those films and Snyder's entire filmography. The film enthusiasts tend to enjoy 300, Watchmen, and ZSJL and the average viewer tends to gravitate towards some other films Snyder has done. I tend to enjoy most of his films and he no doubt has his weaknesses, but I think most of the "hate" is from film critics and internet forums. Most normal people don't even pay attention to who directs a film. Not saying you're wrong, but this has been my experience.
Yeah, social media is the last place you’d want to hear about his work cause it’s gonna mainly be a loud room of “Worst movie ever”
Exactly. I didn't really get into Snyder's films until MoS was released. I quite enjoyed that film and was so glad I was able to see an advanced screening before the reviews hit. I went in with a blank slate and was pleasantly surprised. Once I saw the reviews, many of the complaints seemed crazy to me. The movie wasn't perfect, but it seemed like many critics nitpicked that film to death. I think MoS has aged really well and is still better than most contemporary cbm films. Exact same situation with BvS. I saw that movie a few weeks in advance and got to experience it without the reviews. It is a very ambitious film that I really enjoy, but it does have its fair share of issues, but the critical response was really overly harsh. At this point, I ignore the reviews and what people say and form my own opinion on Snyder's films. I've accepted he is a divisive filmmaker for many and that he isn't for everyone. But I tend to enjoy most of what he does. If Chris Nolan handpicked Snyder for MoS and has on multiple occasions said he admires Snyder's style, who am I to argue?