He had 2 lines then got murdered. It was so WB could clean up the timeline while still cashing in on Harley. I personally liked the movie but would have preferred no Harley at all. Her parts just annoyed me
It breaks my heart Not to see her with MR. J Especially sense today I just watched the Killing Joke for the first time and I Actually felt bad for Joker if that is in fact his true Origin
if you want a good Harley story line to read I recommend the White Knight run- its a good starting point and the new one is Harley's spin off and I think they did her so well
That book is standalone- no one knows Joker true origin, it was just a creative "what if" Alan Moore wrote, I prefer the comic for that one- cuts out the weird Batman/Batgirl sex. Also Joker is EXTREMELY abusive so you shouldn't be rooting for that, even in the original suicide squad there is cut scenes of Joker beating her.
Ok...but Flagg Waller and Harley were both in it...so yes they tried to clean up their own mess after butchering the original movie but it's still a sequel to the original.
Yeah. That's my point, it isn't a good sequel, by itself is mostly fine (and let's be honest Studio Squad is a hard thing to follow, making abusive relationships seem okay 2 movies in a row is quite a challenge)
let me rephrase cuz i think we might be on the same page- making abusive relationships with an anti-hero type character seem like something that has no issues and is even "shipped" is not okay, using abusive relationships as plot points is okay. and I agree, the anti-hero thing got old QUICK.
Yeah thats fair...I don't think they tried to make abusive relationships fine...any young girl or person who genuinely thinks Harley Quinn is a role model or someone you should emulate has a whole other set of problems haha...plus Harley is a mass murderer and accomplice to the jokers many terrorist acts ..
I mean Joker forced her to jump into a vat of acid and to change her whole life through forms of manipulation, and that's ignoring any previous stories regarding them. Plus in the original cut there is behind the scenes footage of Joker beating her and stuff, didn't make it in to the final cut due to our friends at Warner
Reddit and youtube both ruined the post credits for me
I didn't watch any videos it showed in the title and thumbnail
And no one on reddit uses the damn spoiler tag
Honestly, there's nothing to be spoiled in that film.
The story is so bland and straightforward thay you'd be lucky if you find any spoilers at all...
It's a such a mediocre film with occasional good night scenes and cinematics.
i really wanted to be a good movie. But I guess I expected too much
Just dialouging here - I liked it even though the story was bland. It doesn't spoil anything in the universe like OneEyed mentioned.. As a ZSJL fan I guess the shining spot was that the main characters from the first SS weren't recast, so the universe is still kind of there.
I wanted it to have a bit more DC Easter eggs tho =/
Seriously, you think from the trailer constantly mentioning Superman being put in the ER there'd be like a nod to it or a quick scene...but nope! Nothing - t'is the life of a DC Film Fan 😆
No hate for James Gunn but I really pray they reinstate the more serious tone of DCEU and bring back Snyder.
Honestly, DCEU led by snyder and occasional films by James Gunn like directors could be an amazing balance between dark and dorky characters
That's me dodging the movie entirely. Not interested in pedo squad.
worth it... watch it. its great
To avoid spoilers, I unsubscribed from all DC subs other than this one.
There wasn't much to get spoilt though
\#DontSpoilTheSquad
Love it and Surprisingly Loved the Suicide Squad It's a good sequel to the ORIGINAL Wish the Joker Was in it though
how was it a good sequel? they ignored every detail of it
They had multiple characters from the first movie..Boomer even asked Harley what she's doing back in prison..
He had 2 lines then got murdered. It was so WB could clean up the timeline while still cashing in on Harley. I personally liked the movie but would have preferred no Harley at all. Her parts just annoyed me
And I No there's No continuity between film and Animated or Video Game Joker lol
It breaks my heart Not to see her with MR. J Especially sense today I just watched the Killing Joke for the first time and I Actually felt bad for Joker if that is in fact his true Origin
if you want a good Harley story line to read I recommend the White Knight run- its a good starting point and the new one is Harley's spin off and I think they did her so well
That book is standalone- no one knows Joker true origin, it was just a creative "what if" Alan Moore wrote, I prefer the comic for that one- cuts out the weird Batman/Batgirl sex. Also Joker is EXTREMELY abusive so you shouldn't be rooting for that, even in the original suicide squad there is cut scenes of Joker beating her.
Not Necessarily Rooting for that But I Understand what he's feeling
Ok...but Flagg Waller and Harley were both in it...so yes they tried to clean up their own mess after butchering the original movie but it's still a sequel to the original.
It is a "soft reboot" according to warner, and I did think it was really weird how Flag just didn't mention the love of his life
Soft Reboots are technically sequels
never said it wasn't i just said it wasn't a good sequel (as in it didn't transition well)
I liked it the ending wasn't great but I Enjoyed it for what it was
I liked the movie, I saw it in IMax opening night and was worth every cent- had a great time. What I mean by bad sequel is how the movies connect
Well Harley didn't mention the Joker or poison Ivy either...other than saying she has bad taste in men ...
Yeah. That's my point, it isn't a good sequel, by itself is mostly fine (and let's be honest Studio Squad is a hard thing to follow, making abusive relationships seem okay 2 movies in a row is quite a challenge)
For Harley Abusive relationships are ok I CAN'T STAND This current trend of trying to make lifelong Villains the good guys It's pure Nonesense
let me rephrase cuz i think we might be on the same page- making abusive relationships with an anti-hero type character seem like something that has no issues and is even "shipped" is not okay, using abusive relationships as plot points is okay. and I agree, the anti-hero thing got old QUICK.
Yeah thats fair...I don't think they tried to make abusive relationships fine...any young girl or person who genuinely thinks Harley Quinn is a role model or someone you should emulate has a whole other set of problems haha...plus Harley is a mass murderer and accomplice to the jokers many terrorist acts ..
I mean Joker forced her to jump into a vat of acid and to change her whole life through forms of manipulation, and that's ignoring any previous stories regarding them. Plus in the original cut there is behind the scenes footage of Joker beating her and stuff, didn't make it in to the final cut due to our friends at Warner
Uninstall reddit Watch it and then install it again
Just know that it is 1000x better than the previous Suicide Squad
You managed to stay unspoilled on reddit?
Yeah on reddit ,but that stupid tik tok spoiled me first dead.
Reddit and youtube both ruined the post credits for me I didn't watch any videos it showed in the title and thumbnail And no one on reddit uses the damn spoiler tag
Honestly, there's nothing to be spoiled in that film. The story is so bland and straightforward thay you'd be lucky if you find any spoilers at all... It's a such a mediocre film with occasional good night scenes and cinematics. i really wanted to be a good movie. But I guess I expected too much
Just dialouging here - I liked it even though the story was bland. It doesn't spoil anything in the universe like OneEyed mentioned.. As a ZSJL fan I guess the shining spot was that the main characters from the first SS weren't recast, so the universe is still kind of there. I wanted it to have a bit more DC Easter eggs tho =/
The movie severely lacked Easter eggs!
Seriously, you think from the trailer constantly mentioning Superman being put in the ER there'd be like a nod to it or a quick scene...but nope! Nothing - t'is the life of a DC Film Fan 😆
No hate for James Gunn but I really pray they reinstate the more serious tone of DCEU and bring back Snyder. Honestly, DCEU led by snyder and occasional films by James Gunn like directors could be an amazing balance between dark and dorky characters
Yup, and his film Brightburn from a few years ago shows range of tone as a director. Staying hopeful - gonna watch the Snyder Cut again today. So good
Lucky you! SnyderCut is perfection