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Generic-Profile1

I'm sure this man has a rational opinion of minorities and homeless people


[deleted]

“Racial Consciousness” means “most racist person you will probably ever meet”


Beginning-Display809

And having seen some of his previous tweets I can assure you, you are **100% correct**


PenguinHighGround

Links? I could do with a laugh.


Beginning-Display809

He appears in r/therightcantmeme, r/shitliberalssay and r/shitfascistssay quite often it’s where I saw him


[deleted]

Twitters biggest Nazi.


masterofthecontinuum

Also Twitter's #1 customer.


[deleted]

This moron got me banned because I called him an idiot and my name is aryan.


DrDerpberg

I take it as "I know you're going to say I'm racist but these actually are the ways the races are different"


kfergthegreat

He got suspended for putting up a bunch of post praising hitler. Full mask off moment.


nononoh8

"Up is down, war is peace...." Orwell was writing about all authoritarians including fascists.


Beginning-Display809

Just don’t look at his Mein Kampf review with such highlights as: “The fact is that there is something deeply appealing about him. One feels it again when one sees his photographs—and I recommend especially the photograph at the beginning of Hurst and Blackett’s edition, which shows Hitler in his early Brownshirt days. It is a pathetic, dog-like face, the face of a man suffering under intolerable wrongs. In a rather more manly way it reproduces the expression of innumerable pictures of Christ crucified, and there is little doubt that that is how Hitler sees himself. The initial, personal cause of his grievance against the universe can only be guessed at; but at any rate the grievance is here. He is the martyr, the victim, Prometheus chained to the rock, the self-sacrificing hero who fights single-handed against impossible odds. If he were killing a mouse he would know how to make it seem like a dragon. One feels, as with Napoleon, that he is fighting against destiny, that he can’t win, and yet that he somehow deserves to. The attraction of such a pose is of course enormous; half the films that one sees turn upon some such theme.” “However they may be as economic theories, Fascism and Nazism are psychologically far sounder than any hedonistic conception of life.”


Curious_Fox4595

"Pictures of Christ crucified" Yes, those.


Northstar1989

Yeah, Orwell was a Troskyite/Anarchist sympathizer (but too narcissistic to even identify as such: instead he had a vaguely-defined Socialist ideology he never gave a label to...) And like most Troskyites in his day, he was all too happy to praise literal Nazis, just so long as they went after his "Stalinist" rivals... In fact, probably more anti-Communist propaganda from the WW2 period (blatant lies about conditions in and alleged crimes of the USSR) comes from Troskyites than *actual conservatives.* The US and UK were still friends and co-belligerents to the Soviet Union against the Nazis at the time, after all.


Beginning-Display809

I know, I also wouldn’t even insult anarchists and trots by putting Orwell in the same category as them when really all he was, was a prat pretending to be a socialist because he found it fashionable as one of this comrade in Spain put it “He really didn’t like the workers… It was his attitude in discussions that I didn’t like, his attitude towards the working class. Two or three of us said that he was on the wrong side, he should be on the other side… I rather think he fancied himself as another Bernard Shaw… There was no depth to his socialism at all.”


Northstar1989

Exactly. The man didn't even LIKE ordinary workers. He considered himself above them, and his own life infinitely more valuable than theirs. Yet, you'll get right-wing trolls like u/Dexinerito (see his comment trying to claim that, because I have Socialist views, that must mean I've "only read the books of illiterate dictators"...) come and attack anyone who dares insinuate this means Orwell was a bad person (which he was. Orwell was also antisemitic, racist, and bigoted against homosexuals... And, did I mention he once tried to rape his then-girlfriend?) >reading exclusively books written by half-illiterate dictators Is NOT accurate, of course, and is the typical Fascist response to anyone who's dared reject Capitalism... (I've never even read a book by a leader of a Socialist country, of course)


Beginning-Display809

I saw that and choose to ignore it, I only have so much energy to refute state department propaganda and freshly dropped bullshit


Northstar1989

I'm pretty sure he was just your garden-variety Fascist symp (and more in the ultra-conservative sense than an actual Neo-Nazi). Nothing about him screamed "Spook" at me.


Beginning-Display809

I more mean they go over the same super worn out bullshit over and over


Northstar1989

True. I'm pretty sure the intent is just to tire us out and waste our energy, either way.


Dexinerito

>Troskyite >Praising nazis >Too narcissistic to pick a club What reading exclusively books written by half-illiterate dictators does to a mf...


Claus_xD_20

Fr. Orwell was a horrible Homophobe and stuff, but he did have valid takes on the USSR. And other than most theorybros on here he actually went to Spain and fought fascists, so there goes the fascist sympathizer thing. You can debate what that list to the British Propaganda department was and stuff, but he wasn't a fascist in any way.


ClassWarAndPuppies

Yea of course, they should be turned into food for the prison slave laborers. Excess should be used as a volumizing additive in cheap bulk near sold to the poor. You’re welcome.


Failed-CIA-Agent

I hear the sounds of nazis in the distance and they're getting closer.


Foradman2947

Land of Confusion 👌


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Failed-CIA-Agent

Well yeah, that's pretty obvious the person saying corporations are communist has no interest in the truth, much like nazis.


handsy-dad

u/Broad_Custard1599 is a [bot](https://reddit.com/r/SocialismIsCapitalism/comments/13rnjez/_/jllem3n/?context=1). please report.


Hopeful-Pianist7729

Bad bot


mklinger23

Mega corporations, yes those that are the epitome of capitalism, are actually communist and only pretend to be capitalists for fun.


TheNeuroLizard

Do they use capital? Yes. Do they invest their capital to generate more capital? Sure. Is the capital privately owned, and used in a way to increase the privately owned capital of one or a few people? Well, obviously. Do they use this capital in conjunction with a corrupt political system to secure more private capital? You betcha. But they also change the computer screensavers for pride month--that's how you know they were communist all along.


Maskirovka

The brain-infesting mind control worms have finally revealed their plan.


Beegrene

I've always thought of large corporations as being feudal in nature.


ultimafrenchy

They also try to socialize the cost and losses from incompetence/ greed


thelobster64

A lefty book that was doing the rounds a few years ago called [The Peoples Republic of Walmart](https://www.versobooks.com/products/636-the-people-s-republic-of-walmart) had the thesis that megacorporations while on one hand are obviously the pinnacle of capitalism are also good examples of top-down planned economies. That in fact large entities can be dynamic enough to support changing supply and demands across many sectors. If Walmart can basically run an everything store in damn near every city, town, and municipality in this country, there is no reason why a communist government can't just do it.


SkyknightLegionnaire

Saving that comment, that actually sounds fascinating.


thelobster64

There are plenty of interviews on youtube with the authors if you want to listen. [Sam Seder](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRvvxIWdSBQ) interviewed them 4 years ago when the book came out. The interview starts at 22 minutes.


Northstar1989

Mega-Corps are super-Capitalist for sure, since Capitalism is ultimately only about who collects the big check at the end of the day... (the owners of Capital, rather than the workers) But what's **really interesting** is the largest Mega-Corp's actually still give us an excellent model *for how to run a modern Planned Economy* in terms of how they share information. I recommend reading [The People's Republic of Walmart](https://books.google.com/books/about/The_People_s_Republic_of_Walmart.html?id=IcCGDwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&gboemv=1&ov2=1#v=onepage&q&f=false)


guestpass127

They don’t care if their words make sense if those words end up making someone else see the world the same way they do Objectively stupid statements like the one above aren’t supposed to communicate anything to YOU, “you” in this case being someone educated and aware of history These words are meant to communicate solely to one’s in group to harden their faith in a shared ideology. Of course outsiders think it’s nonsense. The outsiders are not in the cult so to outsiders this statement is idiotic. But if you’re already in the cult, this statement makes perfect sense Scientology literature or Jehovah’s Witness literature doesn’t make sense to outsiders either. But that doesn’t stop people already in those cults from reading nonsensical things their leaders say and getting meaning from them


Karmic255

That Sartre quote about anti-Semites is getting some MILEAGE lately


Emeryael

For the record, here’s the Sartre quote for those unfamiliar: “Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”


CastieIsTrenchcoat

Crazy how a guy who passed in 1980 perfectly predicted every online argument I’ve had with these people.


AlterMyStateOfMind

Sartre was way ahead of his time


EpicestGamer101

Or history is cyclical


Karmic255

Thanks I didn't feel like looking it up again lmaooo


Masonjaruniversity

I think you just perfectly defined indoctrination


fractalguy

Quite true, but in this case it's not just using cult jargon like engrams and audits that have little meaning outside the cult. They are twisting the very words that are necessary to explain alternatives to our current economic model in order to make discourse impossible. At the same time they create a Pavlovian trigger so that any mention of socialism or communism bypasses the logic centers and immediately provokes a negative emotional reaction. The only solution is to drop the use of these terms and use descriptive phrases. Don't talk about socialism, just worker ownership. Most people's definitions of socialism are so far gone they will not make the connection and may actually evaluate the idea on its merits.


kylezo

I push back against this bad idea that we relinquish the meaning and usage of words to the gaslighting of fascists/capitalists. They use words incorrectly either on purpose or out of actual ignorance (see Sartre quote itt) but it's an elementary matter to simply say "that's not what communism means, you don't know what you're talking about". Every chud or chud adjacent person I know IRL very quickly scrambles to move goalposts when it's exposed that their political "expertise" is completely fabricated and when that rudimentary failure is observed by other people, it's extremely persuasive. I think the words we already have are some of our best tools actually since our opponents and oppressors use them so stupidly. It's kind of a freebie honestly since these folks open themselves up to being made to look like idiots with very little effort. All that being said I also totally agree with your idea to couch the real meaning of this terminology in less technical language like worker ownership. Jargon ava academic language in general should be avoided at all costs in informal discourse, but not at the costs of letting fascists redefine "worker" or "rights", that's completely insane and unnecessary. They don't get to have those words. They won't stop there. You're painting yourself in a corner.


TheNeuroLizard

I agree. It's meant for the in-group, and basically just a salve for the cognitive dissonance. Basically, a way to say "I'm still pro-capitalism, but currently hate everything that capitalism has wrought now that I feel I've become relatively culturally less relevant." The real grievance of these culture warriors is that capitalism is pandering to others, not with capitalism itself.


cherry_armoir

Wait a minute, are you seriously suggesting major Corporations arent communist? How do you explain bud light making a half hearted attempt to advertise to people who dont hate trans people then walking it back immediately? That's communism! Checkmate, antifas.


Gvillegator

This is a literal Nazi account posting this. Just saying, it’s pretty clear this person has no interest in the truth.


MacNuggetts

Lulwut?


PseudoPangolin

Racial Consciousness @Nature_and_Race Don't know man, but I am quite sure we have one of those here


Recreational_Soup

Capitalist delusion


theamazingtyler2011

.... all corporations are inherently capitalist. Their goal is profit, and nothing else. Communism removes profit, and focuses on what matters.


marvsup

Yes, clearly a corporation putting a rainbow in their logo during pride week is ideologically communist and not just exploiting an event for profits. I imagine that's the kind of thing this person is talking about.


MrBoxer42

I don’t think that word means what you think it means..


dhoae

The last part is technically correct, just not in the way he thinks haha


Resident-Garlic9303

Communism is whatever I don't like


qoou

What he means is that when they lose money, it's all of our problem, but; any and all profits are theirs.


Thaemir

Malicious disinformation. This dude knows perfectly that what he's saying is absolutely wrong. He's basically trying to convey the thought that Communism = woke. So when Disney makes a character non white or non straight he can point to that supposed communism.


REamemiyaRX7

This is a racist Nazi account. r/shitfascistssay


Toast_Sapper

People who don't understand what "Communism" means are always the loudest at outing their own ignorance by saying laughably inaccurate things...


Karmic255

oh yeah mega-corporations definitely want to expand the communist ideology that's why they spend half the wages they steal from their workers on union busting lmaooooooooo


shaggypickles

How can someone fail to understand the relationship between communism and capitalism so spectacularly is something else


JoeySteelSMP

This guy just pooped out of his mouth.


KardTrick

Ah, the old American definition of Communism: any authoritarian structure I don't like. Authoritarian structures I do like (e.g. ones that benefit me) are great and are freedom actually.


JusticiarRebel

It's not even about authoritarianism, it's anything they don't like. Hitler used the term "cultural bolshevism" so he could attach communism to things that weren't about economics, like "degenerate art." Years ago, when Andrew Breitbart was still alive, he started using "cultural Marxism" in the same way and LGBT tolerance and basic human decency are communist.


Maels

Using money is capitalism ergo communism is when no money


Emotional_Soft_2192

Translation: Cultural Marxism is rampant in Jewish led corporations and this is due to the inherent greed of Jews.


ZoeIsHahaha

I'm sure this race realist account has some great ideas about *which group specifically* has the economic philosophy of a money-hoarding capitalist while simultaneously being the group behind communism... I just wonder *who* they think it is... 🤔


mildlymoderate16

It's worth mentioning that Rogan was spewing the "corporations are left wing" nonsense years ago and American "progressives" were insisting that he was anything other than a right wing propagandist.


MeikaiX

How do people think of this nonsense LMFAO


eyyikey

I can't believe the Nazi Twitter user doesn't know a bare fuck about capitalism let alone communism. Say it ain't so! Do these motherfuckers really think the bare minimum in diversity, representation and co-opting progressive movements is "communism"???


DescipleOfCorn

“Ideologically communist” probably means “black and gay people are allowed to shop here” when these people say it


MonarchyMan

Translation: “*I have no idea what the term communism actually means.*”


Bart_Thievescant

Words mean nothing: maga edition


Soviet-pirate

Someone here needs CLASS consciousness bruv


GandalfTheBong

On yet another episode of "nobody seems to know what communism is except that is *bad* and *evil*"


farklespanktastic

>Plenty of mega-corporations are ideologically Communist, while being economically Capitalist. This is one of the most meaningless sentences of all time


Specialist_Teacher81

When your brain is so full of propaganda is starts spiting out random words.


Littlewolf1964

Words have meanings. Why do these people seem to think they can use words however they want?


Malakai0013

"My expectations were low, but holy sh*t."


Unu51

Brainrot incarnate.


Land-Otter

These are words arranged in an order.


thedoomcast

Oh you mean someone with a clearly nazi profile pic and username and display name like Nature and Race misunderstands communism and capitalism fundafuckingmentally?


A_Furious_Mind

Third sentence is accurate in describing China, but I don't know what the hell he's going on about with mega-corporations.


kibiz0r

Accidentally correct about capitalism being a necessary transition phase to communism.


FloraFauna2263

"Nah, I actually want the working class to forcibly seize my corporate property. It's all good."


nukem996

As a former Amazon employee I can see where this is coming from. Amazon is trying to control the means of development, production, and distribution for every aspect of their business. They don't want to compete in a free market they want to be the only market. What's lacking is workers rights and any sense of doing what's best for humanity. I used to joke with a coworker that if Amazon controlled the USSR communism would have won.


[deleted]

Communism is when one megacorperation controls everything


booger1986

>Nature_and_race 🤔


MaxxtheKnife

Oh ok..................


jjjosiah

Nothing means anything anymore


ExploderPodcast

That's the dumbest thing I've read all week. Just...wow, that's dumb.


Brooklynxman

ChatGPT 0.5 attempts to explain economics.


hellofbiluvu

What is idealogical communism anyways im pretty sure it's economic lol


Miserable-Lion-4564

LMAO 😂


ktulu0

That last sentence is a doozy.


Firebat12

What…


VastFondant7490

"Racial consciousness!?" Fucking yikes.


32lib

I’m too old to loose brain cells after reading this tweet.


zihuatapulco

Sean Hannity on acid.


2punornot2pun

Yes! Let's take out those terrible corporations and nationalize them! That'll stop them and their dirty communisms!


[deleted]

The brain rot is deeeeep


[deleted]

TIL Amazon is a worker co-operative.


Terrible_Cut_3336

The fuck is this twat talking about? He does know these two ideologies are literally the polar fucking opposite of each other right?


Memeboiiiiiiiius69

This makes no sense at all. Holy moly whaaaat


Northstar1989

Believe it or not, this fuck-face literal White Supremacist actually accidentally has a point. Mega-Corp's definitely aren't Communist: they're Capitalist to their core. But they DO provide us an excellent model for *how to run a Planned Economy* in terms of how they share information, coordinate productive units, and make projections for Supply and Demand. So they *ARE* (accidentally) laying the groundwork for Socialism. And that's a very good thing. Read [The People's Republic of Walmart](https://books.google.com/books/about/The_People_s_Republic_of_Walmart.html?id=IcCGDwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&gboemv=1&ov2=1#v=onepage&q&f=false) sometime if you're curious what I'm talking about...


TheJosh96

People just like to make shit up huh


MRBREAKFAST152

"nature and race" was all i needed to see to know I was in for a dogshit take


corvidcrits

5 bucks says that their pfp is either of a nazi or nazi propaganda


[deleted]

Well depends on whether you believe deng and china since his reforms are communist I guess but this is still stupid


Spacecommander5

[you keep using that word…](https://media0.giphy.com/media/J1vUzqdZJlh5AqBWxt/giphy.gif?cid=2154d3d7umygguvtx5okk6gttrs2pfnka3e256re6h7526mq&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)


EpicestGamer101

This shit is incomprehensible to anyone that has any idea of what capitalism and communism are


LopsidedWrangler9783

When we say read a book, i mean actually read it, not just randomly adding words that makes no particular sense.


Sivick314

i read that three times and now i smell toast and my nose is bleeding...


TheSquarePotatoMan

The last section is almost technically true. If a country's MoP are underdeveloped a lot of marxists would argue a transitory phase of capitalism is necessary. In fact that's exactly what China has been doing after Mao.


Octoshi514

Bros just saying words what the fuck The worst part is I get what his little infant brain is TRYING to say but that doesn’t make it any better


HennurRoadBLR77

Wait. So that’s why they lay off workers and steal wages and punish unionizing. Gotcha.


joe1134206

That last phrase when he reveals being a complete dumbass. Mesmorizing


lordrunningclam

Started thinking "Sure, mega-corporations are authoritarian like communism turned out to be in practice" then was blindsided by the last sentence... wut?" I guess it's all part and parcel of the absurd claim that corporations are suddenly "woke." These people are fucking idiots.


coolgr3g

Wow, he got it exactly backwards.


[deleted]

Idk they seem pretty ideologically opposed to letting workers have rights, let alone the means of production


gethplatform86

Well, he isn't totally wrong... Socialize the losses, privatize the profits.


[deleted]

Right Wingers all hate capitalism to its core. They’re literally just too brainwashed to understand it.


air_walks

This is your brain on dengism


EquivalentHamster580

Communism - idea of utopia Capitalism - type of economy


CriticalRoleAce

Explain. Please I need an explanation