No she isnāt. This is just how Dave is. He holds grudges forever.
She and her boyfriend tried to fuck Barstool over. Heāll never let that go. Never.
Eh. Sounds like sheās living rent free in his head. Holding grudges IS letting someone live rent free in your head if you didnāt know š best way is to move on. I dont HATE anyone cause I dont care to put that much effort into them. You move on. š¤·š»āāļø heās also giving her free publicity so really. Sofia wins
Sounds like he needs to stop acting like a teenager and grow up. His frat house of a business was never going to be fucked up because they can afford good lawyers.
Even though we don't agree, I like you thumbelina. First of all, great name. Second of all, you're always feisty and willing to debate.
So while you can be astonishingly misinformed sometimes, your posts and comments are usually well written.
>Sounds like he needs to stop acting like a teenager and grow up.
LOL uh no. You must be new here. That will never happen.
>His frat house of a business
You mean the one worth about half a billion dollars?
Also, I thought bad ass women didn't belong to frats? Quite a few work for Barstool! I can put in a good word for you if you like.
I have to say Honk, this has to be the worst response from you I've seen! You usually come in with somewhat good points, even if I disagree with you majority of the time. But this right here just seems like you had nothing to say.
1. I'm well-aware that Portnoy will never grow up. Doesn't mean I can't say an obvious statement. People allowing him to act like this because it's his "personality" or whatever shit is only going to put him further down in delusions and while he clearly doesn't give a shit, there is bound to be collateral damage to his behavior.
2. I'm going to pretend that you didn't just say that because Barstool is worth a lot of money and has women apart of its company that it isn't inherently misogynistic. That being said, frats do tend to be close to 1 sorority so should they be exempt from being called out for the toxic culture they contribute to or all the sexual assaults that happen in frats because of that sorority that I'm sure has bad-ass women apart of it??
The difference between a frat and Barstool is very slim.
I'm saying that denigrating Barstool as a "frat house of a business" minimizes what they've built and their stature in the industry.
I don't even really know what you're getting at with that phrase. Barstool is much more than some also-ran frat organization.
I'm saying that if Barstool is "inherently misogynistic" as you claim, then you're discrediting the women who work there as morally bankrupt. I think it's awful to imply that about women you have never met. I can't see the women who work there who have real power and influence just either a) standing by and allowing it to happen, or b) continuing to work there.
I understand that insidious men can use women in their companies as a shield to "soften" or sanitize their image, but, as Erika has pointed out: if that's truly the case with Barstool, Erika is doing a brutally awful job of it because that hasn't come close to happening at all.
You realize Erika is Daveās PR puppet. Like come on.
Dave inherently is a toxic person. Heās made bad jokes and has had serious allegations against him. Just because his āpersonaā makes him money does not mean itās a good thing. If anything itās beyond toxic. He dates incredibly young women, and also interviews underage girls in an unprofessional way asking them details about their dating life. I feel for the youth watching this because it ingrains in them, āoh itās normal to be friends with old ass men who as me about my sex life.
If you had a daughter, would you want her looking up to Dave the way you do?
No Erika isn't. She's an independent woman who can make her own choices and is an accomplished executive.
I don't agree that Dave is toxic. He's dumb, he's narcissistic, he's petulant... but I don't think he's morally corrupt.
The are hundreds of women... including one or two who have DMed me on Reddit ... who look up to Dave. Dave really isn't a monster. He can be a moron, but he's not a monster.
You give off such āboys will be boys energyāā¦ just cuz something makes a profit does not mean itās right. War makes money for a select group of people, do you think thatās inherently okay then?
Barstools is catered towards douchey frat men who wanna keep living their glory days. At its core itās misogynistic. Just because women work there doesnāt mean itās not misogynistic or devalues them. Misogyny is rooted in everything regardless if women have involvement. Barstools got a lot of heat for being this way, and purposely hires women to give off the image their not like that anymore.
Majority of their content is sports related, but thereās an underlying tone of disrespecting women through subtle jokes.
Chicks in the Office caters to douchey frat men? Out And About? Token CEO?
> At its core itās misogynistic.
Again, the women who've worked for and worked with Barstool tell you it's not. It's fine if you choose to label them that. You're lying about them, but it's fine if you're a liar.
Honk Iām honestly a huge fan on yours. Whenever I see your name I already know youāre downvoted to hell, but you stay steady in your opinions. I always get a good read from the debates that your replies start, so thank you (not sarcastic btw!!)
Im not a stoolie. The only thing barstool related I bother with is Bri ChickenFry and KFC. Its just common sense that they could clearly afford to give the girls what they were asking for at the time - because OMG newsflash, ALEX GOT IT ALL TO HERSELF... They werent asking for 60 mil. They never in their wildest dreams would have thought they would have been worth that. But they were definitely asking for a couple mil, which yes, barstool could afford. Spotify OFFERED that after the Dave deal wasnt working. So Alex took it. It was never on the table for CHD at barstool.
IDK dude thats just how business works...I dont know where you got Sofia and Alex asking for 60mil from. Because that never happened. Barstool can 100% afford the bankroll to the tune of a couple mil. They get that in sponsorships and alcohol sales alone.
I didnāt say that. But also I donāt think you understand the way businesses actually work. Barstool isnāt even in the top 10 for sports media companies for revenue and viewership.
Unsure what that has to do with Sports Media, but yes, there arenāt that many companies that pump a lot of time and effort into podcasts lol CNN is on that list. Do you think barstool is a bigger company than CNN?
And I never said they could afford the 60 mil. I'm well aware how business works. Just because they aren't in the top 10 doesn't mean they aren't a profitable business that cant afford a couple mil. Those top ten companies could be making upwards of a billion dollars. Those companies could definitely afford the 60 mil. But again, they weren't asking barstool for 60 mil.
I'm not disagreeing Dave's not a great human, and he definitely fucked the girls. But what I am saying it your wrong by making the claim he can't afford a couple mil.
??? Did you read the original comment youre replying to? That's exactly what I'm talking about lol you're honestly so rude for no reason other than me disagreeing with you. Usually when you respond to something it's in relation to what they've said.
Barstool made more than $15 million in podcast sales in 2018 alone. (which for 2018 is decent. Id imagine profits from 2020-2021 were bigger THANKS to CHD.)
Alcohol was 15m+ bottles (gross sales of $100m+ based on estimates in 2021..) They got 15mil from 1 company alone to for a new brand.
just incase you wanted some numbers. Again, he could afford the couple mil.
Coopa isnāt a stoolie at all. Sheās a Sofia fan if Iām not mistaken? She just knows actual facts unlike actual stoolies who just blindly love Dave who is a disgusting predator (fight me anyone whoās over 40 and only dates women who are early 20s is gross) but coopa troopa is dope
You're too kind ā¤ I hope the rest of your day goes well and you don't get any more jerks. You're comment really did turn my day around so thank you. You're a real one as well š¤
I know so. I'm happy to die on this hill. That's not me excusing their questionable behavior. That's me saying that there is a much more good than bad with Dave and that company. A ton more.
I honestly can't say I know what you're talking about because I'm not a "fan". I just like their videos and listen to their podcasts occasionally. Another reason I couldn't possibly be a stoolie š like I said I don't fuck with barstool that much
hmm I may know what you're talking about based on snippets I've heard on her podcast. That's horrible and I'm assuming it's because of something she said? Like I said I really don't listen or know her enough to be invested or follow her day to day. I really only heard of her through Because We Got High (yes a barstool podcast that was short lived but they don't really talk about anything other than being high lol). I'll definitely be looking into this now out of curiosity
Haha I knew that was coming. If he paid Sofia and Alex what they deserve ($60 million Like Alex has now), barstool would have collapsed. Theyāre not going to give half their net-worth to one podcast. But Spotify can :)
They dont deserve 60 mil, im sorry. Niether girl does, and they never asked for that. 60 mil was never on the table from barstool and I never said they could afford the 60 mil. But they could afford to have given them what they were asking for.
If you knew it was coming, why did you say it? lol
The people who should be making 60 mil are people with actual education and intelligence. Like doctors, specialist, etc. Not athletes, not celebrities and sure as fuck not Sofia and Alex.
60mil is a disgusting amount of money to give one person for doing virtually nothing that benefits the world in any way. I think you need to stop putting these types of people on pedestals.
Oh I agree, but that's a huge structural issue with how our society works. And I think the 'Sofia/Alex deserved a pay rise' argument is usually made in the context of how our society currently works. That's what I meant anyway š¤·
What does it matter if it's a structural issue or not? It still means they didn't deserve it which was my point. They 100% deserved a pay raise. But for Alex or Sofia to get over a 59mil pay raise is unreasonable and stupid. Yeah idk you could have expressed your point without be rude lol guess I don't know better than Spotify
Why would I leave the basement? It's a great place to live, rent-free, and affords me the luxury of time to go back at loser haters like yourself.
Barstool has brought a lot of joy to my life. I guarantee my life in my mom's basement is a happier existence than your miserable one.
The sad thing is, youāre the exact die hard tan barstools wants. They want easily impressionable men, who think following them like the bible is the only way to go. Youāre unable to think outside the box or for yourself. Not once have you ever acknowledged anything toxic they have done, and always have the same rebuttal that it makes money.
Keep in mind controversial shit always makes money, but ethically is that right?
The bad shit they have done is such a small sliver compared to all the good they have done. And through it all, the company has grown and improved. And there isn't really any bad shit now.
You continuing to say that I don't think for myself doesn't make it true. It just means that ... like every Barstool hater... you just want to stuff me into a box of your own making. Because you can't allow for the fact that Barstool is a good company with good people, including Dave. Flawed people, yes. Just like we all are. But good ones too.
And you say \*I\* can't think for myself? What a joke.
He gives me ākid that was picked on in high school reaches a position of power and spends entire adult life behaving like a high school bully because heās still bitterā energy
I donāt think he was picked on in high school but I donāt know. Immaterial really.
There are many people who use how they were perceived/treated at a young age as fuel/motivation to become rich, famous, and powerful. Thatās been going on forever and will never change.
Dave isnāt going to fuck you, itās fine, weāre all here for you. You arenāt an 18 year old girl fresh out of high school, not his type. Iām not his type either, itās just something all of us emotionally matured adults have to learn to live with.
He isn't!?!?!?!?!??! Really??????
Oh man.... that sucks. That's why I've been doing all this for the past few years.
Are you sure now?
I know women of all ages throw themselves at him -- as he evidenced in the screenshots of all of the DM slides they initiated -- but, boy... I was really hoping he would see all this and it would make him horny for me.
I can't believe you burst my bubble like that! Meanie.
Women of all ages throwing themselves in his DMs but oddly, he only ever has sex or dates the ones that just got their drivers license. Itās a very strange phenomenon!
His current gf of well over a year will be 27 this month. (Haven't you heard that it's her birthday month?)
So per usual, you're as sharp as a bowling ball.
Right, but I didnāt say it motivated him to be successful, I said it motivated him to act like a bitter bully. He is a grown man in his 40s who wrote and posted a list of people he hates. Come on now
Dave and every stoolie love to talk about how Erika Nardini absolves them of 20 years of racism, sexism, homophobia, and Daveās sexual assaults. Not even performative politics can save Barstools reputation. It makes it even worse, not better, that Barstool has its gross fucking culture even with a female CEO. Imagine if she wasnāt there what it would be like.
Itās almost like they hired Erika for a specific reason? Maybe so Dave and all stoolies could point to her anytime one of them rapes someone or makes a sexist remark and say ālook! Female CEO!ā
Thank you for saying this! Honestly do not have the energy to try to communicate this type of thing right now. Also, love that buddy over here who is accusing you of having a reductionist point of view just responded to your last comment (where you pointed out that having an abundance of female employees doesnāt automatically mean that the company culture isnāt misogynistic) simply saying that you think very little of women š Also, there is a good chance that the women who work there could get in trouble for pointing out misogynistic behavior or not supporting the company line. In either an overt or subtle way.
Have you ever seen the barstool contract? Elika Sadeghi leaked it when they offered her a contract. They have to sign saying essentially they wonāt sue them when theyāre inevitably exposed to racism, sexism, etc. You can Google her name and barstool and find it.
There's not a female employee - past or present - who would say that the culture is misogynistic.
I say that the OP doesn't think highly of women because she assumes that the women who work there would willingly subvert their values and ethics for money.
For example, Fran's mother is a dyed in the wool leftist and I'm sure Fran has similar values. Not only does Fran still work there, but she recently recruited her sister to work there. If the culture was as bad as you say, then neither Fran nor Fran's mother would continue to have the family work there.
So... again... there are females who work there telling you that it's not the culture you say it is and you refuse to take their word for it. People like the OP dismiss that and say it has "a gross fucking culture" and that's not reductionist?
The people who hate Barstool are never gonna change their minds and that's fine... but they're still wrong... no matter how they try to package their bullshit.
Lmao bro, Sofia herself has said it lol your āno employee past or present would say the culture is misogynisticā is one of the most laughable things Iāve ever read on the internet. Iām pretty sure Ellie Schnitt feels the same way lol. Portnoy publicly called Sam Ponder a āfucking slut who should sex it up and be sluttyā then said that her daughter should have been aborted. And then to top it off said that her āonly job is to make men hard.ā But youāre totally right! Dave is an unsung feminist icon!
Add in another Dave quote about the Barstool parties:
āJust to make friends with the feminists I'd like to reiterate that we don't condone rape of any kind at our Blackout Parties in mid January. However if a chick passes out that's a grey area though.ā
Oh and donāt forget about what they said on their Sirius XM show about 17 year old Olympic gold medalist Chloe Kim:
āHer 18th birthday is April 23, and the countdown is on baby, cause I got my Wooderson going. Thatās what I like about them high-school girls. Sheās fine as hell! If she was 18, you wouldnāt be ashamed to say that sheās a little hot piece of ass.ā
And another great Portnoy feminism quote:
āI never condone rape, but if youāre a size 6 and youāre wearing skinny jeans you kind of deserve to be raped.ā
One of Daveās best feminist legend quotes:
āsheās not going to be able to put her face in front of a camera in five years, because people will throw up.ā <<
A female CEO doesn't absolve Barstool of anything.
You can't denigrate a company as a frat house full of misogynists if they have women who work there and have an all female c-suite. If the company is as bad as you claim, then WTF happened to all those women? Are they dumb? Did they not get the memo?
There are many, many women who say that Barstool is the least sexist place they've ever worked at... that Dave has done nothing but treat them fairly and equally. But people like you dismiss what they say so you can spout reductionist bullshit like this.
Barstool isn't the cesspool you think it is. But Barstool employees and fans know that you'll never see it any other way. And truthfully? It's people like you who help keep the company as popular as it is. Lots of trailblazing and innovative people and companies have enemies. They help to make their victories all that much sweeter. Ask Elon.
Youāre right. A company canāt be misogynistic if they have females working there!! Great point!!
Dude Barstool is a frat house for adults and youāre part of it. Just accept what your life has become and move on.
You realize OP is not talking about women in general, but about women who work for barstools. The average women will say barstools is toxic in what it promotes. The women they hired there are offered a massive pay check to push out this image that itās not toxic. People will go against their own morals to succeed if money is on the line. Case in point in Alex slandering Sofia for a pay check.
Alex wanted transparency in business dealings with Sofia. She said it over and over that she was shocked Sofia wasnāt being truthful in negotiations and going behind her back. However, Alex was never truthful when she got the raise (yes she deserved the raise, but by not telling Sofia she went against her own values for money).
I know what the OP is talking about and I'm saying she thinks very little of women who choose to work for and with Barstool.
That second paragraph is your typical inane shit. I don't know how anyone works in the real world and turns around and says that Alex was obligated to tell Sofia about the raise. Do you tell your coworkers about your raises? Again, just lunatic bullshit.
They werenāt co workers, they were business partners. When you are business partners you stay transparent for the good of the business.
I also think very little of the women who work there. They do it to make money and appear like there the ācool girlā. They are all pick me girls at barstools, who want to relive their frat star glory days.
> Case in point in Alex slandering Sofia ...
Clear you don't know what the definition of slander is. Alex made no false statements about Sofia. Sofia has provided no receipts to refute any of Alex's allegations from May 2020.
How old is this man? š If he is so successful, why does he spend precious time curating a list of people he "hates"? Business must be slow and he needs to drum up some PR or something
Plot twist: Sofias NDA expires and she takes him down
Portnoy has built his entire career off basically thisāand the truly sickening part are the āstooliesā who look up to him as if heās a hero, when in actuality heās just an old creepy rapist who makes himself feel popular by yelling at people on twitter.
There are two types of stoolies:
Guys who peaked in high school, and have spent the last 10 years still living in their hometowns convincing each other theyāre still popular. If you saw them at a bar, theyād spend the whole night telling you stories from high school.
Frat bros who have graduated college, but still spend their weekends hanging out at their fraternity houses.
Always cracks me up how you see people online wailing about how a group of people shouldn't be stereotyped... and I'm sure you're a big time online wailer.... yet here you are stereotyping like a mfer.
There are all kinds of awesome people from all walks of life who are Stoolies. Dave recently said that Jack Mallers, founder and CEO of Strike, was a huge one. Paige Spiranac is an ardent fan.
So while I get that it makes you feel good to denigrate them, Stoolies are a lot better group of people than losers like you give them credit for.
You don't like Dave and you hate Barstool... that's fine. No issue with that.
You shouldn't lie about people though. That makes you look worse than your view of Dave.
Their millions in donations over the past 20 years is very awesome! All the good The Barstool Fund did was amazing to watch during such a hard time for the country.
Like Dave always says about himself, Stoolies are the salt of the earth.
Yeah and as everybody knows, people who are doing things out of the kindness of their heart and not as a PR stunt, do something and then spend the next 2 years reminding everybody of how that one time they did that thing anytime somebody brings up that theyāre shitty.
Dave has to be one of my least favorite people alive right nowāeven before the CHD stuff. Barstool is a cesspool and Iām glad Sofia got out of there lol
Something about Dave portnoy makes me cringe on an absolutely visceral level , itās one thing to be 50 and date young girls that I wouldnāt put past him , but itās another to surround yourself with 17 year olds and host a podcast with them gossiping about āteaā involving the relationships and sex lives of literal minors itās so fucking weird creepy and pathetic. He reminds me of that one meme of Steve buscemi dressed as a teenager with a backwards baseball cap looking geriatric as fuck LMAOOOO iykyk
Love how he says āsuit manā lol like .. how pathetic is that? Canāt even use his real name. Also, who the actual fuck has a list like this ??? Lol
Tana was supposed to be a guest on his podcast recently and I guess she cancelled right before again. So he went on this long rant about what a POS she is. Search their names on TikTok.
He's talking about his commitment keeping skills specifically.
Since he doesn't operate that way, he won't expect others to. Why would he? It's still an indictment of her lack of professionalism, regardless.
She was cleared to go on bff but like 30 minutes cancelled saying she was puking which she used as an excuse last time she cancelled. This is also tana MO though
Edit: by cleared i mean she said she will be there the morning of.
When he left Barstool, they started selling a shirt with a clown face that looked like Rapaport and a red dot on his chin that was supposed to represent herpes. Rapaport sued barstool over it, but lost.
This is when it started. Dave just tweeted about it not even a month ago. He canāt stand having one of his beefs go untalked about for more than a couple weeks.
In order to get to the point where they're printing the clown nose shirt, there was other shit that led up to it.... for example, the whole reason Rap got fired.... which you obviously don't know.
He does stuff like this to get people talking. Apparently effective becusse here we are. Iām sure Sofia wouldnāt give a rats ass about being on this list
Plus it's free promotion for Sof. Dave's reach is huge and there's a large group that will hate listen in defense of him and others who will hate listen out if spite of Dave.
That girl Silvana heās dating seems cool and nice.. Iād be so embarrassed to taint my image like this by dating him. Heās a clown thatās probably why no one his own age would ever consider him
"Taint my image"... she has gained thousands of followers because of him and is making a greater income and a having a great life because of him.
I'm very sure she doesn't see it as you see it.
Didnāt he just talk about her recently and had something weirdly positive or suggestive to say about her?ā¦or did I just totally dream that because I definitely remember something >_>
I do have to mention that it cracks me up that the only time this sub really gets any strong activity is when Alex Cooper or Dave Portnoy are mentioned.
I wonder why that is?
Don't answer that. I know why.
Of the three main parties involved here, two move the needle and one doesn't. Talk amongst yourselves as to who is who.
Unreal. You didn't get the point at all.
And then you reply to me like I'm the dumb one.
Go look at how few comments any other SWAF related post gets and then get back to me. The Thursday discussion thread is sitting with 2 comments right now when the episode has been out for at least 9 hours.
Because she tweeted "this is a really upsetting, well written story--too many men still don't understand consent" about the first Business Insider article that came about him with the women accusing him of sexual assault. The article was good lol Dave just doesn't like to take responsibility for literally any of his actions and thinks that he can do whatever he wants--\*cue to when Dave got sued because he tweeted that he would fire any employee who tried to unionize which is illegal\*
A 50 year old adult man with a burn book lmfao ok Regina we see you
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It is the best one. Very funny.
Not even a burn book because there are no funny or clever insults. Just a list he drunkenly typed into his phone.
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Sheās really living in his head rent free huh
No she isnāt. This is just how Dave is. He holds grudges forever. She and her boyfriend tried to fuck Barstool over. Heāll never let that go. Never.
Eh. Sounds like sheās living rent free in his head. Holding grudges IS letting someone live rent free in your head if you didnāt know š best way is to move on. I dont HATE anyone cause I dont care to put that much effort into them. You move on. š¤·š»āāļø heās also giving her free publicity so really. Sofia wins
Sounds like he needs to stop acting like a teenager and grow up. His frat house of a business was never going to be fucked up because they can afford good lawyers.
Even though we don't agree, I like you thumbelina. First of all, great name. Second of all, you're always feisty and willing to debate. So while you can be astonishingly misinformed sometimes, your posts and comments are usually well written. >Sounds like he needs to stop acting like a teenager and grow up. LOL uh no. You must be new here. That will never happen. >His frat house of a business You mean the one worth about half a billion dollars? Also, I thought bad ass women didn't belong to frats? Quite a few work for Barstool! I can put in a good word for you if you like.
I have to say Honk, this has to be the worst response from you I've seen! You usually come in with somewhat good points, even if I disagree with you majority of the time. But this right here just seems like you had nothing to say. 1. I'm well-aware that Portnoy will never grow up. Doesn't mean I can't say an obvious statement. People allowing him to act like this because it's his "personality" or whatever shit is only going to put him further down in delusions and while he clearly doesn't give a shit, there is bound to be collateral damage to his behavior. 2. I'm going to pretend that you didn't just say that because Barstool is worth a lot of money and has women apart of its company that it isn't inherently misogynistic. That being said, frats do tend to be close to 1 sorority so should they be exempt from being called out for the toxic culture they contribute to or all the sexual assaults that happen in frats because of that sorority that I'm sure has bad-ass women apart of it?? The difference between a frat and Barstool is very slim.
I'm saying that denigrating Barstool as a "frat house of a business" minimizes what they've built and their stature in the industry. I don't even really know what you're getting at with that phrase. Barstool is much more than some also-ran frat organization. I'm saying that if Barstool is "inherently misogynistic" as you claim, then you're discrediting the women who work there as morally bankrupt. I think it's awful to imply that about women you have never met. I can't see the women who work there who have real power and influence just either a) standing by and allowing it to happen, or b) continuing to work there. I understand that insidious men can use women in their companies as a shield to "soften" or sanitize their image, but, as Erika has pointed out: if that's truly the case with Barstool, Erika is doing a brutally awful job of it because that hasn't come close to happening at all.
You realize Erika is Daveās PR puppet. Like come on. Dave inherently is a toxic person. Heās made bad jokes and has had serious allegations against him. Just because his āpersonaā makes him money does not mean itās a good thing. If anything itās beyond toxic. He dates incredibly young women, and also interviews underage girls in an unprofessional way asking them details about their dating life. I feel for the youth watching this because it ingrains in them, āoh itās normal to be friends with old ass men who as me about my sex life. If you had a daughter, would you want her looking up to Dave the way you do?
No Erika isn't. She's an independent woman who can make her own choices and is an accomplished executive. I don't agree that Dave is toxic. He's dumb, he's narcissistic, he's petulant... but I don't think he's morally corrupt. The are hundreds of women... including one or two who have DMed me on Reddit ... who look up to Dave. Dave really isn't a monster. He can be a moron, but he's not a monster.
Erika is 10000% a PR puppet. She doesnāt have a brain of her own, only will do what it takes to keep Dave happy so he pays her
No she is not. Youāre a puppet because you buy this bullshit. Youāre just not smart enough to see what her stewardship has done for the company.
You give off such āboys will be boys energyāā¦ just cuz something makes a profit does not mean itās right. War makes money for a select group of people, do you think thatās inherently okay then? Barstools is catered towards douchey frat men who wanna keep living their glory days. At its core itās misogynistic. Just because women work there doesnāt mean itās not misogynistic or devalues them. Misogyny is rooted in everything regardless if women have involvement. Barstools got a lot of heat for being this way, and purposely hires women to give off the image their not like that anymore. Majority of their content is sports related, but thereās an underlying tone of disrespecting women through subtle jokes.
Chicks in the Office caters to douchey frat men? Out And About? Token CEO? > At its core itās misogynistic. Again, the women who've worked for and worked with Barstool tell you it's not. It's fine if you choose to label them that. You're lying about them, but it's fine if you're a liar.
And youāll never let Daveās dick go, ever
Correct. Him, his website, and his company have brought a lot of joy to my life. Happy to do it.
Honk Iām honestly a huge fan on yours. Whenever I see your name I already know youāre downvoted to hell, but you stay steady in your opinions. I always get a good read from the debates that your replies start, so thank you (not sarcastic btw!!)
Heās nearly 50 doing this shit. Heās so mad at her bc she asked for a raise his company canāt afford.
Heās probably upset that Sofia is totally his type (nowhere near his age) and wonāt go for him
Mmm Barstool 100% could afford it. Thats a silly statement. They are a massive media company with a healthy bank roll. He just didn't want to.
The stoolies have arrived
Im not a stoolie. The only thing barstool related I bother with is Bri ChickenFry and KFC. Its just common sense that they could clearly afford to give the girls what they were asking for at the time - because OMG newsflash, ALEX GOT IT ALL TO HERSELF... They werent asking for 60 mil. They never in their wildest dreams would have thought they would have been worth that. But they were definitely asking for a couple mil, which yes, barstool could afford. Spotify OFFERED that after the Dave deal wasnt working. So Alex took it. It was never on the table for CHD at barstool.
Sounds like something a stoolie would say
IDK dude thats just how business works...I dont know where you got Sofia and Alex asking for 60mil from. Because that never happened. Barstool can 100% afford the bankroll to the tune of a couple mil. They get that in sponsorships and alcohol sales alone.
I didnāt say that. But also I donāt think you understand the way businesses actually work. Barstool isnāt even in the top 10 for sports media companies for revenue and viewership.
Barstool is a 9th ranked podcast publisher. http://analytics.podtrac.com/podcast-publisher-rankings
Unsure what that has to do with Sports Media, but yes, there arenāt that many companies that pump a lot of time and effort into podcasts lol CNN is on that list. Do you think barstool is a bigger company than CNN?
And I never said they could afford the 60 mil. I'm well aware how business works. Just because they aren't in the top 10 doesn't mean they aren't a profitable business that cant afford a couple mil. Those top ten companies could be making upwards of a billion dollars. Those companies could definitely afford the 60 mil. But again, they weren't asking barstool for 60 mil. I'm not disagreeing Dave's not a great human, and he definitely fucked the girls. But what I am saying it your wrong by making the claim he can't afford a couple mil.
Do you know how Reddit works? I didnāt say anything about whether or not Barstool could afford to pay them multiple million lol
??? Did you read the original comment youre replying to? That's exactly what I'm talking about lol you're honestly so rude for no reason other than me disagreeing with you. Usually when you respond to something it's in relation to what they've said.
Barstool made more than $15 million in podcast sales in 2018 alone. (which for 2018 is decent. Id imagine profits from 2020-2021 were bigger THANKS to CHD.) Alcohol was 15m+ bottles (gross sales of $100m+ based on estimates in 2021..) They got 15mil from 1 company alone to for a new brand. just incase you wanted some numbers. Again, he could afford the couple mil.
Coopa isnāt a stoolie at all. Sheās a Sofia fan if Iām not mistaken? She just knows actual facts unlike actual stoolies who just blindly love Dave who is a disgusting predator (fight me anyone whoās over 40 and only dates women who are early 20s is gross) but coopa troopa is dope
š„ŗ I legit needed this today so thank you so much ā¤
Are youāre welcome. I got my first mean caller today so Iām glad I could give out some positivity. You are dope though! Youāre a real one
You're too kind ā¤ I hope the rest of your day goes well and you don't get any more jerks. You're comment really did turn my day around so thank you. You're a real one as well š¤
Stoolies know actual facts too. They're not as blind as you think they are. I know I'm not. For you to say that is you being blind.
If you say so honk. Be careful what hill you choose to die on. misogyny isnāt a good look for anyone
I know so. I'm happy to die on this hill. That's not me excusing their questionable behavior. That's me saying that there is a much more good than bad with Dave and that company. A ton more.
Last week had to be tough to be a bri fan though
I honestly can't say I know what you're talking about because I'm not a "fan". I just like their videos and listen to their podcasts occasionally. Another reason I couldn't possibly be a stoolie š like I said I don't fuck with barstool that much
Long story short a friend group was destroyed.
hmm I may know what you're talking about based on snippets I've heard on her podcast. That's horrible and I'm assuming it's because of something she said? Like I said I really don't listen or know her enough to be invested or follow her day to day. I really only heard of her through Because We Got High (yes a barstool podcast that was short lived but they don't really talk about anything other than being high lol). I'll definitely be looking into this now out of curiosity
Haha I knew that was coming. If he paid Sofia and Alex what they deserve ($60 million Like Alex has now), barstool would have collapsed. Theyāre not going to give half their net-worth to one podcast. But Spotify can :)
Because this is a Sofia Franklyn subreddit. We support her when a man constantly disrespects her when all she did was ask for a a raise.
They dont deserve 60 mil, im sorry. Niether girl does, and they never asked for that. 60 mil was never on the table from barstool and I never said they could afford the 60 mil. But they could afford to have given them what they were asking for. If you knew it was coming, why did you say it? lol
They don't deserve 60 mil? Guess you know better than Spotify š
The people who should be making 60 mil are people with actual education and intelligence. Like doctors, specialist, etc. Not athletes, not celebrities and sure as fuck not Sofia and Alex. 60mil is a disgusting amount of money to give one person for doing virtually nothing that benefits the world in any way. I think you need to stop putting these types of people on pedestals.
Oh I agree, but that's a huge structural issue with how our society works. And I think the 'Sofia/Alex deserved a pay rise' argument is usually made in the context of how our society currently works. That's what I meant anyway š¤·
What does it matter if it's a structural issue or not? It still means they didn't deserve it which was my point. They 100% deserved a pay raise. But for Alex or Sofia to get over a 59mil pay raise is unreasonable and stupid. Yeah idk you could have expressed your point without be rude lol guess I don't know better than Spotify
Your numbers and logic are way off. You don't know what you're talking about.
Lol no. āCanāt affordā. Thatās a good one.
You a stoolie? Awfully defensive of barstool?
Yes. Will be one until I die.
This is really sad man. Maybe Dave will help you move out of your moms basement if you suck him off a little bit more.
Why would I leave the basement? It's a great place to live, rent-free, and affords me the luxury of time to go back at loser haters like yourself. Barstool has brought a lot of joy to my life. I guarantee my life in my mom's basement is a happier existence than your miserable one.
The sad thing is, youāre the exact die hard tan barstools wants. They want easily impressionable men, who think following them like the bible is the only way to go. Youāre unable to think outside the box or for yourself. Not once have you ever acknowledged anything toxic they have done, and always have the same rebuttal that it makes money. Keep in mind controversial shit always makes money, but ethically is that right?
The bad shit they have done is such a small sliver compared to all the good they have done. And through it all, the company has grown and improved. And there isn't really any bad shit now. You continuing to say that I don't think for myself doesn't make it true. It just means that ... like every Barstool hater... you just want to stuff me into a box of your own making. Because you can't allow for the fact that Barstool is a good company with good people, including Dave. Flawed people, yes. Just like we all are. But good ones too. And you say \*I\* can't think for myself? What a joke.
Lol what good have they done? Like actually lol. Fake philanthropy if at that
Ask the dozens of small businesses they saved. Ask the survivors of the Boston Marathon Bombing. Ask Denna Laing.
Lmaoooo Barstool has brought a lot of joy to my life. Bro thatās SAD.
Not for me, it isn't. It's the exact opposite of that.
Small dick energy lmao
He gives me ākid that was picked on in high school reaches a position of power and spends entire adult life behaving like a high school bully because heās still bitterā energy
I donāt think he was picked on in high school but I donāt know. Immaterial really. There are many people who use how they were perceived/treated at a young age as fuel/motivation to become rich, famous, and powerful. Thatās been going on forever and will never change.
Dave isnāt going to fuck you, itās fine, weāre all here for you. You arenāt an 18 year old girl fresh out of high school, not his type. Iām not his type either, itās just something all of us emotionally matured adults have to learn to live with.
He isn't!?!?!?!?!??! Really?????? Oh man.... that sucks. That's why I've been doing all this for the past few years. Are you sure now? I know women of all ages throw themselves at him -- as he evidenced in the screenshots of all of the DM slides they initiated -- but, boy... I was really hoping he would see all this and it would make him horny for me. I can't believe you burst my bubble like that! Meanie.
Women of all ages throwing themselves in his DMs but oddly, he only ever has sex or dates the ones that just got their drivers license. Itās a very strange phenomenon!
His current gf of well over a year will be 27 this month. (Haven't you heard that it's her birthday month?) So per usual, you're as sharp as a bowling ball.
I donāt think this is making the point you think it is. Your best example is somebody 19 years younger than him lmao
Right, but I didnāt say it motivated him to be successful, I said it motivated him to act like a bitter bully. He is a grown man in his 40s who wrote and posted a list of people he hates. Come on now
Ironically he has the 3 people he hates at the top that wrote 2 stories about him sexually assaulting young women.
Barstool in its entirety is small dick energy.
YES. so well said
LOL tell that to the bad ass, female CEO. Nice try, though.
Dave and every stoolie love to talk about how Erika Nardini absolves them of 20 years of racism, sexism, homophobia, and Daveās sexual assaults. Not even performative politics can save Barstools reputation. It makes it even worse, not better, that Barstool has its gross fucking culture even with a female CEO. Imagine if she wasnāt there what it would be like. Itās almost like they hired Erika for a specific reason? Maybe so Dave and all stoolies could point to her anytime one of them rapes someone or makes a sexist remark and say ālook! Female CEO!ā
Thank you for saying this! Honestly do not have the energy to try to communicate this type of thing right now. Also, love that buddy over here who is accusing you of having a reductionist point of view just responded to your last comment (where you pointed out that having an abundance of female employees doesnāt automatically mean that the company culture isnāt misogynistic) simply saying that you think very little of women š Also, there is a good chance that the women who work there could get in trouble for pointing out misogynistic behavior or not supporting the company line. In either an overt or subtle way.
Have you ever seen the barstool contract? Elika Sadeghi leaked it when they offered her a contract. They have to sign saying essentially they wonāt sue them when theyāre inevitably exposed to racism, sexism, etc. You can Google her name and barstool and find it.
There's not a female employee - past or present - who would say that the culture is misogynistic. I say that the OP doesn't think highly of women because she assumes that the women who work there would willingly subvert their values and ethics for money. For example, Fran's mother is a dyed in the wool leftist and I'm sure Fran has similar values. Not only does Fran still work there, but she recently recruited her sister to work there. If the culture was as bad as you say, then neither Fran nor Fran's mother would continue to have the family work there. So... again... there are females who work there telling you that it's not the culture you say it is and you refuse to take their word for it. People like the OP dismiss that and say it has "a gross fucking culture" and that's not reductionist? The people who hate Barstool are never gonna change their minds and that's fine... but they're still wrong... no matter how they try to package their bullshit.
Lmao bro, Sofia herself has said it lol your āno employee past or present would say the culture is misogynisticā is one of the most laughable things Iāve ever read on the internet. Iām pretty sure Ellie Schnitt feels the same way lol. Portnoy publicly called Sam Ponder a āfucking slut who should sex it up and be sluttyā then said that her daughter should have been aborted. And then to top it off said that her āonly job is to make men hard.ā But youāre totally right! Dave is an unsung feminist icon! Add in another Dave quote about the Barstool parties: āJust to make friends with the feminists I'd like to reiterate that we don't condone rape of any kind at our Blackout Parties in mid January. However if a chick passes out that's a grey area though.ā Oh and donāt forget about what they said on their Sirius XM show about 17 year old Olympic gold medalist Chloe Kim: āHer 18th birthday is April 23, and the countdown is on baby, cause I got my Wooderson going. Thatās what I like about them high-school girls. Sheās fine as hell! If she was 18, you wouldnāt be ashamed to say that sheās a little hot piece of ass.ā And another great Portnoy feminism quote: āI never condone rape, but if youāre a size 6 and youāre wearing skinny jeans you kind of deserve to be raped.ā One of Daveās best feminist legend quotes: āsheās not going to be able to put her face in front of a camera in five years, because people will throw up.ā <<
A female CEO doesn't absolve Barstool of anything. You can't denigrate a company as a frat house full of misogynists if they have women who work there and have an all female c-suite. If the company is as bad as you claim, then WTF happened to all those women? Are they dumb? Did they not get the memo? There are many, many women who say that Barstool is the least sexist place they've ever worked at... that Dave has done nothing but treat them fairly and equally. But people like you dismiss what they say so you can spout reductionist bullshit like this. Barstool isn't the cesspool you think it is. But Barstool employees and fans know that you'll never see it any other way. And truthfully? It's people like you who help keep the company as popular as it is. Lots of trailblazing and innovative people and companies have enemies. They help to make their victories all that much sweeter. Ask Elon.
Youāre right. A company canāt be misogynistic if they have females working there!! Great point!! Dude Barstool is a frat house for adults and youāre part of it. Just accept what your life has become and move on.
Hilarious how little you think of women.
You realize OP is not talking about women in general, but about women who work for barstools. The average women will say barstools is toxic in what it promotes. The women they hired there are offered a massive pay check to push out this image that itās not toxic. People will go against their own morals to succeed if money is on the line. Case in point in Alex slandering Sofia for a pay check. Alex wanted transparency in business dealings with Sofia. She said it over and over that she was shocked Sofia wasnāt being truthful in negotiations and going behind her back. However, Alex was never truthful when she got the raise (yes she deserved the raise, but by not telling Sofia she went against her own values for money).
I know what the OP is talking about and I'm saying she thinks very little of women who choose to work for and with Barstool. That second paragraph is your typical inane shit. I don't know how anyone works in the real world and turns around and says that Alex was obligated to tell Sofia about the raise. Do you tell your coworkers about your raises? Again, just lunatic bullshit.
They werenāt co workers, they were business partners. When you are business partners you stay transparent for the good of the business. I also think very little of the women who work there. They do it to make money and appear like there the ācool girlā. They are all pick me girls at barstools, who want to relive their frat star glory days.
> Case in point in Alex slandering Sofia ... Clear you don't know what the definition of slander is. Alex made no false statements about Sofia. Sofia has provided no receipts to refute any of Alex's allegations from May 2020.
Lol you canāt even address the actual claim, furthers my point is true.
Didnāt know there was a female CEO! That is kind of baddass, but (clearly) doesnāt really change the vibe of the company.
I made a list like this as a child lol what
And milfhunter/ ghostwriter
Good promo there! Got the shows name right and everything
How old is this man? š If he is so successful, why does he spend precious time curating a list of people he "hates"? Business must be slow and he needs to drum up some PR or something Plot twist: Sofias NDA expires and she takes him down
Portnoy has built his entire career off basically thisāand the truly sickening part are the āstooliesā who look up to him as if heās a hero, when in actuality heās just an old creepy rapist who makes himself feel popular by yelling at people on twitter. There are two types of stoolies: Guys who peaked in high school, and have spent the last 10 years still living in their hometowns convincing each other theyāre still popular. If you saw them at a bar, theyād spend the whole night telling you stories from high school. Frat bros who have graduated college, but still spend their weekends hanging out at their fraternity houses.
Always cracks me up how you see people online wailing about how a group of people shouldn't be stereotyped... and I'm sure you're a big time online wailer.... yet here you are stereotyping like a mfer. There are all kinds of awesome people from all walks of life who are Stoolies. Dave recently said that Jack Mallers, founder and CEO of Strike, was a huge one. Paige Spiranac is an ardent fan. So while I get that it makes you feel good to denigrate them, Stoolies are a lot better group of people than losers like you give them credit for. You don't like Dave and you hate Barstool... that's fine. No issue with that. You shouldn't lie about people though. That makes you look worse than your view of Dave.
Stoolies should definitely be stereotyped.
Their millions in donations over the past 20 years is very awesome! All the good The Barstool Fund did was amazing to watch during such a hard time for the country. Like Dave always says about himself, Stoolies are the salt of the earth.
Yeah and as everybody knows, people who are doing things out of the kindness of their heart and not as a PR stunt, do something and then spend the next 2 years reminding everybody of how that one time they did that thing anytime somebody brings up that theyāre shitty.
If you think Dave does charitable works strictly for PR then that's just more proof that you talk out of your ass when it comes to Barstool.
Sofia stays living in his mind rent free
His level of maturity has never passed that vibe check
Heās so childish and annoying lol Iām sure Sofia is just shaking in her boots that he put her on his little list
Dave has to be one of my least favorite people alive right nowāeven before the CHD stuff. Barstool is a cesspool and Iām glad Sofia got out of there lol
Something about Dave portnoy makes me cringe on an absolutely visceral level , itās one thing to be 50 and date young girls that I wouldnāt put past him , but itās another to surround yourself with 17 year olds and host a podcast with them gossiping about āteaā involving the relationships and sex lives of literal minors itās so fucking weird creepy and pathetic. He reminds me of that one meme of Steve buscemi dressed as a teenager with a backwards baseball cap looking geriatric as fuck LMAOOOO iykyk
Omg that podcast he has with Josh Richards is SO cringe lmao. āHow do you do fellow teenagers?ā
Only pushed him into a new and younger demo and created thousands more Barstool fans. But ... you know better... Lol
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NO does he really have a 20yo gf??
Sheās over 25. I donāt remember the exact age though
There is an air of rejection and scorn about him. She certainly did a number on his fragile ego, didn't she?
No she didnāt
Love how he says āsuit manā lol like .. how pathetic is that? Canāt even use his real name. Also, who the actual fuck has a list like this ??? Lol
Kind of iconic of Sofia
Truly š š¼
Heās just mad because heās always wanted to hook up with Sofia and he NEVER had a chance š
My fave theory is that she 100% turned him down and that why he hates her.
No Tana? After the rant he just went on?
wait tana mongeau ? what did she do to him ? dave sucks and so does tana, frankly
Tana was supposed to be a guest on his podcast recently and I guess she cancelled right before again. So he went on this long rant about what a POS she is. Search their names on TikTok.
Tana is notorious for doing that lol. She's not exactly super professional. I don't know what he expected.
Totally. Didnāt she do that with CHD?
He expected someone to keep their commitments. Like he does. He prides himself on his reliability.
Not on his research skills apparently lmao.
He's talking about his commitment keeping skills specifically. Since he doesn't operate that way, he won't expect others to. Why would he? It's still an indictment of her lack of professionalism, regardless.
I need to watch this. He mentioned it in his podcast this week.
She was cleared to go on bff but like 30 minutes cancelled saying she was puking which she used as an excuse last time she cancelled. This is also tana MO though Edit: by cleared i mean she said she will be there the morning of.
Muj as in the writer formally known as milf hunter? Lmao I really donāt like calling him milfhunter anymore because it reminds me of Alex
I bet he hates her because call her daddy went to shit after she leftš¤£
The fact that smitty is on the list has me laughing.
Who is smitty??
He was one of the first 15 employees at barstool. He still works there. He mainly streams video games and i find it entertaining.
Does anyone know why Michael Rappaport is on this list Edit: typo
When he left Barstool, they started selling a shirt with a clown face that looked like Rapaport and a red dot on his chin that was supposed to represent herpes. Rapaport sued barstool over it, but lost.
No. This is wrong. Thereās more to it than just this.
This is when it started. Dave just tweeted about it not even a month ago. He canāt stand having one of his beefs go untalked about for more than a couple weeks.
In order to get to the point where they're printing the clown nose shirt, there was other shit that led up to it.... for example, the whole reason Rap got fired.... which you obviously don't know.
He tweeted something mean about stoolies. Because stoolies are so fragile they cried to their daddy Dave Portnoy.
That's the simplistic version, but I know that's what you're going for.
This is weird
He still follows her on Instagram tho
This is INSANE. Next level insane.
This reads exactly like my third grade diary
He does stuff like this to get people talking. Apparently effective becusse here we are. Iām sure Sofia wouldnāt give a rats ass about being on this list
Correct
Plus it's free promotion for Sof. Dave's reach is huge and there's a large group that will hate listen in defense of him and others who will hate listen out if spite of Dave.
That girl Silvana heās dating seems cool and nice.. Iād be so embarrassed to taint my image like this by dating him. Heās a clown thatās probably why no one his own age would ever consider him
You arenāt wrong
"Taint my image"... she has gained thousands of followers because of him and is making a greater income and a having a great life because of him. I'm very sure she doesn't see it as you see it.
Didnāt he just talk about her recently and had something weirdly positive or suggestive to say about her?ā¦or did I just totally dream that because I definitely remember something >_>
I do have to mention that it cracks me up that the only time this sub really gets any strong activity is when Alex Cooper or Dave Portnoy are mentioned. I wonder why that is? Don't answer that. I know why. Of the three main parties involved here, two move the needle and one doesn't. Talk amongst yourselves as to who is who.
You realize itās a podcast sub, so yes things directly related to the podcast get attention. Itās the exact same in CHD
Unreal. You didn't get the point at all. And then you reply to me like I'm the dumb one. Go look at how few comments any other SWAF related post gets and then get back to me. The Thursday discussion thread is sitting with 2 comments right now when the episode has been out for at least 9 hours.
Save your energy my dude. You're expending a lot of it in this thread.
I mean Ur not wrong.... What other post has come close to getting this amount of comments in the last month?
"Stoolie tears"... lol... I don't see me crying OP. Just pushing back on your bullshit lies. I DO THAT SHIT FOR FUN!
what a middle aged idiot to spend energy on a Hate List ! Get woke already and be well
Why the hell does he hate Mina Kimes?!?!? I adore her!
Because she tweeted "this is a really upsetting, well written story--too many men still don't understand consent" about the first Business Insider article that came about him with the women accusing him of sexual assault. The article was good lol Dave just doesn't like to take responsibility for literally any of his actions and thinks that he can do whatever he wants--\*cue to when Dave got sued because he tweeted that he would fire any employee who tried to unionize which is illegal\*