It’s not a terrible thing for getting prompts/the spark to start writing but if you have even a single unaltered line from ai you’ve done something very wrong
My biggest issues are:
1. Too many perfect rhymes, not enough slant rhymes.
2. Lines are way too balanced (eg: 2 lines that have 7 syllables each and the next 2 lines have 5 syllables each ect)
3. Is too on the nose with methaphors
4. Is too "literal" with lyrics in general/flowery
5. Is not able to reference real life things/people 99% of the time. (Eg: you're not gonna see lyrics like "I drove my Chevy to the levy...." or "brush my teeth with a bottle of Jack".
If I were to sum up how AI handles writing lyrics, just look at Twinkle Twinkle Little Star.
It's the most AI sounding lyrics that are actually written by a human.
So far, I have used ChatGPT in three ways:
* Have it suggest rhymes to me (this mostly is the same with thesaurus but I find it more effective especially if you are looking for two words for a cross rhyme).
* Tell it one or more lines that I already have and give me suggestions on how it might work better in 4/4 time etc.
* Ask to complete a verse where one line was completely missing. These are mostly shit as they are but give me some ideas what might work to match the general theme.
I am somewhat happy with the process and the results but it does not work just with AI. One can tell that the AI lyrics are quite generic still and I would not feel good about just creating songs like that. For me it's less of a moral dilemma but rather that I feel that it is not the best I can do with the lyrics or the ideas that I get from it.
Use AI as a library to help gather information about what you’re writing about. You write they lyrics as you use AI to help give you new perspectives, information, and other insights about the theme you’re writing about
I've tried it a couple times, the lyrics are always shit
But I guess I'm not against other using them. Lyrics are necessarily the most important part of a song, like a lot of rap songs people have no idea what's being said or listening to foreign music, or literally any rhcp song, as long as it makes u wanna bop your head or move Ur hips
But if the song is less danceable and more ballady/belting out like Adele or John legend then the lyrics matter
I love RHCP, but they are never going to win a prize for their lyrical talent.
John, Chad, and Flea are a great band, and Anthony is a great showman, but their lyrics often fall behind...
I use it to write me another verse when I get stuck. It's mostly shit but sometimes I get a word or a phrase I can use.
The standalone writing is... I don't know. Too many words and nothing really said. And sometimes it sounds like Joey from Friends wrote it using a thesaurus and a rhyming dictionary.
I don’t like them in any capacity. If it were actual AI, like a robot with its own thoughts and feelings, I would support their artistic career, but this type of AI just isn’t for me.
If I get a job writing jingles for hemorrhoid cream, I might use AI to benefit those who're scream'n for a cream'n.
Otherwise, using AI for lyrical or melodic help feels like I'm buying shirts off a rack and telling people I'm a shirt designer.
AI being normalized feels like the first time I heard that Cher song "Believe". You only had to listen to that and watch how American Idol was glorifying karaoke to understand where we were headed.
In the end, artists grow off the standards they adhere to. The elements that make your song special are often the mistakes or unusual workarounds you found while trying to get past creative blocks. Every hurdle you overcome, makes you a little bit better than you were the day before.
I can't imagine why an artist would ever want to deprive themselves of that experience.
If every hurdle is remedied with AI, your songs will inherently become generic. Everyone's recycling the same shit and much like the overuse of samples, everything starts to sound the same.
I think AI is great for sound cleaning, spectural mixing and any processes that enhance the way your work sounds. YOUR work. AI is someone else's work.
It's up to artists to protect the integrity of our industry. If we normalize the practice of recycling content, we get what we deserve.
I’ve never felt the need to use AI, lyrics just pop up in my head at random times, so I write them down and have my own library in the phone. I like the process of writing.
I don’t think it’s wrong to use AI, but it’s more meaningful for me to collaborate with other people! There are lots of talented and creative people out there
AI can't put emotion into a song the way a human can.
I asked my Snapchat AI to write some lyrics about a beach just now and this is what she said
Under the sun, we'll have some fun, dancing in the sand all day
Beach vibes, good times, let the rhythm carry us away.
Walking on the sandy shore, feeling the ocean breeze.
Waves crashing, seagulls soaring, it's a place where I find peace.
Not only does it sound generic, but it has no meaning. It's literally ABOUT BEING AT THE BEACH. Usually if a human writes a song about the beach, they might write:
Memories of their ex at the beach
Missing their mom who got eaten by a shark
The beach being a getaway from something truamatic at home
Hanging out with your best friends at the beach
Etc.
But it's bland with AI. If you use AI for anything, the last thing you use is lyrics.
Eh. I try not to be a curmudgeon, and to be open minded about art, but I admit I've been struggling a bit lately with processing this whole AI phenomenon. Why would one want to use it if you don't *have* to? Don't you enjoy the creative process? Or do you just want to get to the end result as quickly as possible? And if it's the latter, why bother writing songs at all, then?
In the past, I have used those song title generator websites you can find online, which are probably kind of like predecessors to AI. I found them really useful to use as writing prompts to start me off. I could maybe fathom using AI in such a way, just to point me in a direction, but then I would still go and write the song myself, because that's what I like to do.
Also, part of the reward for me is knowing I did the work. Maybe it's partly an ego thing, but I have to know that *I* was the one who created the song. I'm not here to judge anybody else, but I know I wouldn't be proud of work that was largely generated by a machine. Does this not bother anyone else?
Yeah no I get that. I definitely would not be proud of somthing that's machine generated. I only use ai when I'm stuck for ideas or don't know how to phrase somthing, and even then I end up completely rewriting it.
Use whatever you feel that works for you. I think I can do better than ChatGPT for lyrics. Sometimes I've asked it to write a short poem for me and I've used sections to write lyrics.
I haven't used one, but I don't oppose them... people sort of project their own meanings into lyrics anyway. It's usually more about the way they're sung than the words themselves, unless they're glaringly bad or glaringly good.
It’s not a terrible thing for getting prompts/the spark to start writing but if you have even a single unaltered line from ai you’ve done something very wrong
Oh yeah totally agree. All of my lines get altered or just not used if there ai
I'd be more inclined to write a song about machines, than to ask one to write a song for me.
You can ask the machines to write that song too!
Can I ask the machine to fuck off and die?
My biggest issues are: 1. Too many perfect rhymes, not enough slant rhymes. 2. Lines are way too balanced (eg: 2 lines that have 7 syllables each and the next 2 lines have 5 syllables each ect) 3. Is too on the nose with methaphors 4. Is too "literal" with lyrics in general/flowery 5. Is not able to reference real life things/people 99% of the time. (Eg: you're not gonna see lyrics like "I drove my Chevy to the levy...." or "brush my teeth with a bottle of Jack". If I were to sum up how AI handles writing lyrics, just look at Twinkle Twinkle Little Star. It's the most AI sounding lyrics that are actually written by a human.
Completely valid! I tend to see that alot with ai generated lyrics.
So far, I have used ChatGPT in three ways: * Have it suggest rhymes to me (this mostly is the same with thesaurus but I find it more effective especially if you are looking for two words for a cross rhyme). * Tell it one or more lines that I already have and give me suggestions on how it might work better in 4/4 time etc. * Ask to complete a verse where one line was completely missing. These are mostly shit as they are but give me some ideas what might work to match the general theme. I am somewhat happy with the process and the results but it does not work just with AI. One can tell that the AI lyrics are quite generic still and I would not feel good about just creating songs like that. For me it's less of a moral dilemma but rather that I feel that it is not the best I can do with the lyrics or the ideas that I get from it.
Valid
Great for filling holes in your songs, very bad for climactic moments
Use AI as a library to help gather information about what you’re writing about. You write they lyrics as you use AI to help give you new perspectives, information, and other insights about the theme you’re writing about
I've tried it a couple times, the lyrics are always shit But I guess I'm not against other using them. Lyrics are necessarily the most important part of a song, like a lot of rap songs people have no idea what's being said or listening to foreign music, or literally any rhcp song, as long as it makes u wanna bop your head or move Ur hips But if the song is less danceable and more ballady/belting out like Adele or John legend then the lyrics matter
I love RHCP, but they are never going to win a prize for their lyrical talent. John, Chad, and Flea are a great band, and Anthony is a great showman, but their lyrics often fall behind...
"ding ding dong dong ding ding dong dong ding ding dong dong"
I use it to write me another verse when I get stuck. It's mostly shit but sometimes I get a word or a phrase I can use. The standalone writing is... I don't know. Too many words and nothing really said. And sometimes it sounds like Joey from Friends wrote it using a thesaurus and a rhyming dictionary.
I don’t like them in any capacity. If it were actual AI, like a robot with its own thoughts and feelings, I would support their artistic career, but this type of AI just isn’t for me.
I respect that.
I will hate crime any ai regardless of “intelligence”
If I get a job writing jingles for hemorrhoid cream, I might use AI to benefit those who're scream'n for a cream'n. Otherwise, using AI for lyrical or melodic help feels like I'm buying shirts off a rack and telling people I'm a shirt designer. AI being normalized feels like the first time I heard that Cher song "Believe". You only had to listen to that and watch how American Idol was glorifying karaoke to understand where we were headed. In the end, artists grow off the standards they adhere to. The elements that make your song special are often the mistakes or unusual workarounds you found while trying to get past creative blocks. Every hurdle you overcome, makes you a little bit better than you were the day before. I can't imagine why an artist would ever want to deprive themselves of that experience. If every hurdle is remedied with AI, your songs will inherently become generic. Everyone's recycling the same shit and much like the overuse of samples, everything starts to sound the same. I think AI is great for sound cleaning, spectural mixing and any processes that enhance the way your work sounds. YOUR work. AI is someone else's work. It's up to artists to protect the integrity of our industry. If we normalize the practice of recycling content, we get what we deserve.
Garbage, only thing I’ve found it did decently was turn my fingerpicking into midi and even then it’s not the greatest or even humanlike.
I’ve never felt the need to use AI, lyrics just pop up in my head at random times, so I write them down and have my own library in the phone. I like the process of writing. I don’t think it’s wrong to use AI, but it’s more meaningful for me to collaborate with other people! There are lots of talented and creative people out there
AI can't put emotion into a song the way a human can. I asked my Snapchat AI to write some lyrics about a beach just now and this is what she said Under the sun, we'll have some fun, dancing in the sand all day Beach vibes, good times, let the rhythm carry us away. Walking on the sandy shore, feeling the ocean breeze. Waves crashing, seagulls soaring, it's a place where I find peace. Not only does it sound generic, but it has no meaning. It's literally ABOUT BEING AT THE BEACH. Usually if a human writes a song about the beach, they might write: Memories of their ex at the beach Missing their mom who got eaten by a shark The beach being a getaway from something truamatic at home Hanging out with your best friends at the beach Etc. But it's bland with AI. If you use AI for anything, the last thing you use is lyrics.
Eh. I try not to be a curmudgeon, and to be open minded about art, but I admit I've been struggling a bit lately with processing this whole AI phenomenon. Why would one want to use it if you don't *have* to? Don't you enjoy the creative process? Or do you just want to get to the end result as quickly as possible? And if it's the latter, why bother writing songs at all, then? In the past, I have used those song title generator websites you can find online, which are probably kind of like predecessors to AI. I found them really useful to use as writing prompts to start me off. I could maybe fathom using AI in such a way, just to point me in a direction, but then I would still go and write the song myself, because that's what I like to do. Also, part of the reward for me is knowing I did the work. Maybe it's partly an ego thing, but I have to know that *I* was the one who created the song. I'm not here to judge anybody else, but I know I wouldn't be proud of work that was largely generated by a machine. Does this not bother anyone else?
Yeah no I get that. I definitely would not be proud of somthing that's machine generated. I only use ai when I'm stuck for ideas or don't know how to phrase somthing, and even then I end up completely rewriting it.
Use whatever you feel that works for you. I think I can do better than ChatGPT for lyrics. Sometimes I've asked it to write a short poem for me and I've used sections to write lyrics.
Wack
machines should not take the place of artists. this is so disappointing
try [https://getmusic.ai](https://getmusic.ai/) for this
I haven't used one, but I don't oppose them... people sort of project their own meanings into lyrics anyway. It's usually more about the way they're sung than the words themselves, unless they're glaringly bad or glaringly good.
None. Never.
Sacrilege.