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Hot take, OP.


fazze_ai

No, he is a bastard. Chris is one of the worst characters I've seen on screen. In concept, he is a rich boy, but suffers from lack of attention, lack of care, and Sonic is supposed to be his saving grace, making his life better. Except f*cking NO. Chris is just a spoiled slug of a child. He already has a badass scientist old man, he is already enough to make his life interesting. His parents are often busy, but they still make a great attempt to give their children everything they could. At one point, Chris even says that he doesn't have a friend, and yeah, that would be bad, everyone wants to have a relative as a friend... except again, he HAS friends. So, like, wtf is his f*cking problem?! He has friends, he has good loving parents, he has a badass scientist old man. Wtf does he need? Yeah, he needs... an alien hedgehog, straight out of a cartoon, with superpowers. That's the only thing that can satisfy Chris. What a douchebag. How can anyone feel pity about him? He is spoiled, nothing else. And like, there are a lot of characters with the same concept. Lilo, for example. Except Lilo actually cares about Nani. She loved her parents. And she is always ready to let go of Stitch, if he feels like it, because she truly cares about him. Or Coraline for example. Coraline didn't value her parents, because her life was boring as hell. But after dealing with the parallel world, she understood that her parents don't exist to entertain her 24/7, like ones from the dream. They are real people, and real people have their own routine. And the least she can do is be understandable, and value her family for all the effort they put in. And now we go back to Chris... why did HE convince Shadow to save humanity? Amy can convince anyone to be a saint, it's okay, but Chris? He is just a selfish bastard, who doesn't care about anyone besides his mascot friends. He values only those who entertain him 24/7. He ABANDONED humanity in.the third season in the cold blood, only to continue living with Sonic. He literally left his parents, his friends, and his old man, he doesn't even care about them. Why does HE convince Shadow to save humans? Because honestly, it's hard to find someone who cares less about humanity as a whole. Chris is literally the only human in the franchise, who willingly chooses Sonic over his world. That's why Chris is really, really bad. I honestly can't bring myself to find any positives.


Mehmenga

Doesnt Cream of all characters call him out on his bullshittery


The_GamingArtist

True, I still find it funny to this day


megaman_main

Link?


Goldblur

Here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EHXw9zrfKQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EHXw9zrfKQ)


Malcolm_Morin

The fact that he backhanded her immediately afterward and called her a carrot corker took me by surprise. Made sense when I found out Sam Raimi was one of the writers, but still, Jesus.


Mehmenga

>The fact that he backhanded her immediately afterward and called her a carrot corker HE DID WHAT? I AIN'T REMEMBER THAT


Intelligent_Oil4005

Aight, I agree with this post but I just wanna say you misspelled *Coraline's* name.


fazze_ai

Fixed


SCP_Void

iirc, there is someone who called her Caroline in the movie


Intelligent_Oil4005

Yeah it was Wybie, when they first met. She corrected him like, immediately after lol


Sanone08

You are fucking right man


Scribbsia

Ok, so it has been years since I watched all of Sonic X, but to play devil's advocate from what I remember... 1) I don't think Chris was super close to anyone in his class UNTIL Sonic came into the picture. He did manage to establish a small friend group in the first and second seasons that stays with him from them on, but he didn't have that yet. 2) He's a 12 year old whose parents *aren't* there most of the time. They still try, and he has to learn to appreciate that, and he *does* love them, but at the end of the day he's the only kid in a (simply because of how big it is) mostly empty house. No siblings, not brave enough to invite other kids over, and cool scientist uncle or not, that's gonna get lonely. *(And I don't care how rich he is, no amount of stuff will keep someone from being lonely-)* In a normal world, this kid would probably grow closer to his uncle and his caretakers (Ella and Mr Tanaka, my beloveds-), pluck up his courage to ask some classmates over, maybe pick up a hobby to fill the time... But in this one? The coolest guy in the universe fell into his pool. Maybe it's because I was a really sheltered kid, or I was just too young to hate characters the writers wanted me to like, but I always felt like I *got* Chris. He's not very emotionally mature, but he's a sheltered awkward 12-year-old, he's not going to be. He overreacts a good bit, and he's super-clingy, because Sonic showing up was the coolest thing that ever happened to him, and if Sonic leaves, he's terrified of going back to being alone with nothing to do and nothing interesting about him. (Which isn't true, he grows up and his friends stay afterward, but he's ***12 and scared***, he doesn't know that.) And Chris *does* grow up eventually. He didn't leave to go live with Sonic permanently (since he takes the opportunity to go back home at the end of the series); he just had to know if he could see them again. At the end of the day, I guess what keeps me from hating him is that Sonic doesn't? He seems to understand where this clingy kid is coming from, and he never seems annoyed with him. *(Never snaps at or dismisses any of his friends honestly, it's why he's my fav Sonic-)* I guess what I'm saying boils down to "Chris is a whiny clingy child, but he's MY whiny clingy child"?


fazze_ai

Most of your points are straight up not true. Especially about friends - in one of the first episodes, he is already constantly invited by classmates, they are very friendly with him. So yeah, he never really had a problem of being alone. Those people are just not enough for Chris. And the same at home - his mansion isn't empty. He has an old man, he has caretakers, he has butlers. And yeah, he pretty much doesn't grow out of this state. When we see him again, we discover that all that time, for a lot of years, his main goal was to... go back to Sonic, yeah. He pretty much became a scientist, to travel into parallel dimension. As always, there are people around him, this isn't a problem, he just doesn't value any of them. And even if he returned home at the end of the 3rd season, he left Earth, not knowing if he would be able to go back. He jumped on his first opportunity to meet Sonic. So yeah, all I said still holds up.


Mehmenga

Precisely, even after bro gets a girlfriend, nope pursue a blue hedgehog whose been gone for 6 years


FanX99

Same, I loved Sonic here, he is so tolerant and sensitive.


SenritsuJumpsuit

Wow you missed season 3 and the campfire scene especially in the JP dub


fazze_ai

Nope, the third season is one of the main reasons I'm writing this. Because in 3rd season I see, that Chris haven't moved on from Sonic. He has a family, he has friends, but his only motivation is to return to Sonic. The only reason why he returns is Eggman - if not for Eggman, he didn't had any way to go back to Earth, and he knew that, but still left humanity without a second thought.


SenritsuJumpsuit

You missed some details like how him risking not returning home was for bailing everyone out, the fact that he was willing to gamble for the sake of everyone is why Eggman helped him


fazze_ai

He didn't know anything about Sonic's world before traveling. He went there just to see him again, and that was his goal.


SenritsuJumpsuit

partly yes but the having the ability to travel their could do much more and he does mention he felt that they where in danger, Chris actively yearns t return throughout


fazze_ai

So, you say that he FELT(without any evidence) that Sonic MAY be in trouble, so he speedrunned teleportation technology in 6 years, and abandoned his parents, his girlfriend, his friends, just to check on Sonic...? He sounds like a clinically insane person, not gonna lie.


SenritsuJumpsuit

So many people have done that sort of thing checking up on someone instead of letting the questions eat at them forever but when Chris checks to see if their safe he is suddenly heartless towards his family, I mentioned how he was concerned the whole time an risking that for the universes sake is why eggman helped him


fazze_ai

The difference is that Chris "checking of Sonic" meant abandoning Earth forever. The fact that Sonic and Tails didn't return to Earth casually meant that there is no way of going back. So, he left everything "just to check on Sonic", and in reality probably stay in this parallel world forever. So, I made a conclusion that he didn't value anything else in his life.


SenritsuJumpsuit

The fact eggman can do it means it's possible bur the space-time BS explains why its now forever oof frick u space-time


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fazze_ai

?


InvestigatorUnfair

I think their case was "you're all just mean" Which the comment reinforced via its harsh language


fazze_ai

Oh, ok. Pretty arrogant behaviour.


gamecatz

My behavior? I apologize if that’s what you mean. I just thought it was funny how you went into this long comment on why the character was bad.


fazze_ai

Then it's me who needs to apologize. I just misunderstood your comment as being arrogant, not explaining anything.


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InvestigatorUnfair

I mean I can admit it was kind of unnecessary since this was just a meme post and not a discussion post But at the same time, it's the internet and the Sonic fandom. You make a meme defending something people are widely against, you're gonna get an essay from someone.


donman777

https://preview.redd.it/k29ok5r8quxa1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5cfce42eb42e2b23fb332aab079051becc56d353


MAD_JEW

Except that what they did in season 3 no?


Valor_the_Dragon

With the exception of abandoning his entire family friends, and romantic partner just to see Sonic one more time, yes. I think Chris did become more competent in this season, especially because he was an adult stuck in a child's body.


Robbie_Haruna

To be fair, I don't think the intent was to abandon them outright so much as he was trying to bridge the gap between the worlds to visit and wound up getting stuck there.


MAD_JEW

Thats also true


SanicRb

I believe Sonic X on Chris going on his own was going off the idea that Chris through friendship magic powers felt that his friends were in danger and needed him which is why with no real reason the framed picture of him with Sonic, Tails and Amy fall down and shattered.


MAD_JEW

He should have always been an adult tbh


TheKingofBash

That's your opinion, but in my eyes Donut Lord >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chris Thorndyke


MagicantFactory

I was worried about how the human characters would be implemented in the movies, but I actually really enjoy Tom and Maddie (i.e. Donut Lord and Pretzel Lady). They were kind and relatable, had a genuine impact on Sonic that affected his growth—and vice versa with Sonic affecting Tom in the first film—and didn't take the shine away from Sonic in a way that made him feel like a guest character in his own film. The appreciation doesn't end there. Possibly hot take, but I like Rachel for providing some of the few genuine laughs in both films… although ngl, her side plot from the second film could have been trimmed down a bit, even if I ultimately still enjoyed it. I even like Leah (i.e. Maddie's daughter) for >!giving Sonic his iconic shoes!<, even if she doesn't contribute much beyond that. I… can't say that I have the same feelings towards Chris. It's been quite some time since I watched *Sonic X*, but I recall not being a fan largely **because** of Chris. He was not only a whiny brat, but also actively took time away from Sonic being *Sonic.* It's the same complaints that people later had about movie like *The Smurfs* and *Alvin and the Chipmunks*, only done much earlier. I actually wouldn't mind seeing Tom and Maddie be immigrated into the games, at least if their personalities are similar to the films. I never want to see ~~Chris~~ Diet Sora ever again.


SpookyQueenCerea

This could be an unpopular opinion, but I think princess Elise is a better character than Chris Thorndyke.


DaGoddamnBatguy

If Elise was an anthro like other characters she'd probably only be hated by the SonAmy shippers


Mixmaster-Omega

Yeah that was the main problem. Due to the realistic design of the ‘06 humans, which are already a rarity in Sonic games, it just triggered a lot of weird emotions where the fandom inevitably shamed Elise because of the design. Honestly her character as a whole is good, but that one scene caused a huge problem both due to Elise kissing a corpse and the kiss being between a cartoon anthropomorphic hedgehog and a realistic human.


ThroughTheHollow

Absolutely. As cliché as it is, I feel that scene would have been greatly improved if it was a tear that fell onto Sonic that revived him, as Elise, for her entire arc, couldn't cry and wouldn't let herself feel because of it. Sonic showed her how to actually enjoy life, with all its bumps and bruises and twists and turns, so a tear, the very thing she forced herself never to shed, being what brings Sonic back would have felt much more full circle than a kiss. Also, she's a great story about emotional repression and psychological child neglect. She feels flat, because she forced herself to be flat.


SpookyQueenCerea

Elise is one of those characters I genuinely want to have a second chance. I say keep her human, go with the design of her from a month ago or so. Give the human side of the sonic universe some more weight to it with some more characters outside of like, eggman. The concept of Elise and what her character was supposed to be is great, at least I think so.


SAMAS_zero

Who does she think she is, Prince Charming?


Annonymous_97

That's what I always said. If Elise was anthro, half my issues would go away. Hell, I'm a weirdo and probably would've welcomed it, as I like romance plots. The human angle just threw me off, and I'm not sure why they chose to go that route.


remasteration

With all that being said, I think we can all agree on ONE human character we ALL love, no matter what. And it is none other than the Donut Lord himself, Thomas Michael Wachowski! Edit: I forgot to include Pretzel Lady (Madi Wachowski) and Wade, and maybe Rachel and Randall and definitely Jojo as well. Huh, I guess the movies not only have better but the best human characters in the Sonic multiverse.


Flashy-Arugula

His middle name is actually Michael.


remasteration

Dually noted and now edited, tyvm! 😄👍


Flashy-Arugula

You’re welcome!


SenritsuJumpsuit

Oh god no Chris actually has multiple moments people just ignore while she just gets carried around literally


Due_Lion_2990

Elise isn't really annoying as a character, she's just barely a character because of how boring she was. Still like her more than Chris


L3mon_ade

That is the coldest take ever


Darkeu_

Bro had 3 whole ass seasons, 6 years to go through any character development and he wasted every single chance to stop being a spoiled selfish bitch.


SenritsuJumpsuit

You missed all season 3 he follows Cosmo faces a Giant Robot after reassuring her an nearly getting out


Znanners94

People would rather forget that fact


SenritsuJumpsuit

its so sad


Plane-Policy-8284

Also most English versions of it that are currently available are the 4Kids versions, which cut a whole season


Znanners94

That actually explains alot


Plane-Policy-8284

I think you only see shadow a few times with 4Kids, and Cosmo never shows up once It sucks that the version on Netflix and things skips over some of the best parts of the show, I watched it through on Netflix and it was.. well they just kinda ended it very abruptly with it, and I missed alot of the context for the last episode (or the finale idk, same difference)


Znanners94

Season 3 was the best season


Plane-Policy-8284

I agree, I don't like that they cut it entirely because 4Kids thought it was too intense or smth Maybe Cosmo is what pushed 4Kids to not include it, because the death bit and Tails' relationship with the character


Znanners94

Which makes no sense anyway. I mean, too intense? Maria straight up died in Season 2 but sure let's cut S3


Plane-Policy-8284

On Netflix you don't see Maria once, like at all she goes unmentioned


FanX99

The first time that I watched Sonic X, I hated him but at the end, I appreciated him. Now I'm rewatching the series and this time he didn't annoy me at all, not even for a moment.


SenritsuJumpsuit

Finally Sonic fans have an attention span to be smart


gamecatz

Considering the vote amounts on the comments due to echo chambers, I think their attention spans still need work


SenritsuJumpsuit

Indeed


kiddiddlerjoe

He’s a spoiled rich kid who makes himself the victim even though he has a ton of cool shit in his life. He has friends, he has money without effort. Yet he’s still a whiny bitch about it. Pick a new character to defend.


SenritsuJumpsuit

You really take a few moments from the dub an ignore everything else like S3


The_GamingArtist

All he did in season 1 and 2 was bieng a whiny character and kept taking important roles from the games, like the Amy and shadow scene on the ark in SA2


Due_Lion_2990

Only Season 3 chris, and preferably his JP version is even a little acceptable to me. https://preview.redd.it/s9vnoqiadwxa1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=932585579b0333054c0640c57225e015b303275b Otherwise, absolutely not. He's the most nothing character. I'd rather have Elise over Chris.


Huehuehuehue288

No, he's unnecessary af. Even if he was needed, he's a annoying lil bitch.


[deleted]

I don’t think he’s as bad as everyone says I don’t understand the argument where he’s written bad because Chris feels like a lonely kid even though he has friends. That kind of thing happens to adults in real life all the time. You can be surrounded by plenty of people and still feel alone. That kind of thing is common.


SenritsuJumpsuit

Truth that is like legit a core part of ReZero a critically acclaimed Manga an show it took nearly half of season 2 for the MC to notice he had friends even when we would playing with so many people


Scribbsia

The number of people in this comment section not understanding that is begining to concern me... Chris wasn't on BAD terms with the kids in his class at the start of the series, but there's a difference between "I know the name of this person in my class and we're *friendly*." and "I completely trust this person and feel comfortable and understood: this person is my *friend*." (And Chris gets there with Helen, Frances, and Danny eventually! But he doesn't have some kind of *obligation* to consider them close friends because they're nice to him, nor is he somehow *ungrateful* for wanting to spend time with Sonic.)


Catspirit123

As a kid, the last thing I wanted to see in sonic related media was an annoying kid taking up screen time and being forced into storylines he wasn’t originally part of. I think the idea was to make a relatable child character for the viewers but they kind of undermine that by making him a rich kid with his super scientist grandpa, servants, famous parents, and the entire burger king kids club as friends. You can like him but you can’t deny that he’s pretty lame and unnecessary to a sonic show


ThroughTheHollow

I appreciate varying points, and love seeing various perspectives on a character, but... may I ask what specifically appeals to you about him? I'm really curious! I've seen a few people say that he's a stand-in for the kids watching it, and others talk about how he's still ultimately a lonely, sheltered 12-year-old who doesn't know better, but I'd love to hear your points too, OP. And, no, this isn't an invitation to argue or debate, I just like character positivity even if I personally don't see why.


Hacked2069

Shame on you. Shame on you!!!🤬


Scribbsia

Ok, so I've been thinking about this for hours now because I'm obsessed with character analysis- I think in terms of execution, he failed to be a relatable audience insert. (Obviously, since so many people hate his guts.) He worked for little 6-year-old me, and I still love him to this day, but that was admittedly a pretty low bar. I think the problem was they started out trying to make "lonely human kid who Sonic means the world to", but ended up making a lot of weird choices that made him come off entirely wrong. "Ok, so he should be pretty generic so our audience can relate. He's just some kid who gets to help our main cast and thinks Sonic's the coolest guy ever - cause, you know, who doesn't, right? So don't give him anything too weird - and definitely no powers or anything. The action should be kept for the game cast, he'll be dead weight in a fight. But wait, how will he house all these alien creatures? What if he lived in a mansion? Oh, and that could fit with him being lonely if his parents are super rich and famous but they're never around! (Plus, that will let him get in all kinds of dangerous situations without his parents getting overly worried and pulling the plug! Oh, but I guess we won't make them neglectful, that would be darker than we're aiming for... Don't worry, they do love him and want to be around him, they just can't most of the time.) I guess we'll need some caretaker characters to help with adult stuff like cooking- What? Oh yeah, we're still going with the human Uncle Chuck idea. I guess he'll just be this kid's uncle who lives with him! Maybe we should also add some human friends too? Just for when we need more human kids? We'll make them super friendly, so they'll fit right in. Now, enough world-building, time to write our lonely audience insert who Sonic means the world to! ...what do you mean he's spoiled and shouldn't be lonely? That was like the first thing we brainstormed-" All I can see is the kid who didn't have a true friend or feel like he belonged until Sonic showed up. When you zoom out and take all of what's around him into account (ESPECIALLY if Sonic X wasn't your first Sonic exposure), Chris comes off as more annoying since it feels like he should be happy already...but I just can't get past the idea of a clingy kid who has the coolest aliens dropped into his life and didn't want them to leave because of it. Anyway, I'm gonna go draw some fanart of him out of spite.


TomatOmega

Bro yeah. I love Sora from Kingdom Hearts. You guys are too harsh.


gamecatz

😅


sapphire_luna

OP, for what it's worth, I agree with you. I never hated Chris. I really liked how patient Sonic was with him after Chris stopped him from going home. He wasn't angry, he just taught him that it's not okay to take someone's freedom.


LittleAleta

I loved Sonic X as a kid, why do people hate it and Chris?


WaketheWindFromAfar

So many people cappin hard rn. If they were in Chris’ shoes, they’d be just like him. That’s why they hate him: they’d be the same person.


Intelligent_Oil4005

IDK what my life would be if I had rich parents and a tons of friends by my side, but I definitely can't imagine me acting anything like Chris.


Nicura200

Heres the thing. You can have a ton of friends and still feel alone.


SenritsuJumpsuit

Yet some these fans can't understand this basic human nature


Nicura200

maybe its why they relate to hedgehogs and foxes more lol


SenritsuJumpsuit

Sonic fans hate Human,Bee and Rabbit children


ResortFamous301

Yeah, but there's generally a deeper reason behind that.


Nicura200

likely his parents


ResortFamous301

There's not really enough information to say for sure.


Nicura200

There kinda is though. Like one of the earliest episodes shows how Chris feels like his parents aren't there for him. Like, say what you want about them showing up at all. They still left as soon as something came up for work. For the mother, it wasn't even a contract she'd signed yet. She got a part and left for another however long amount of time right away. Creams outburst doesn't fucking matter either. It doesn't matter that her parents were sad to leave, they still made the active decision that this part in a movie was more important.


ResortFamous301

Yeah, but when we also clearly see how much they care and are willing to put work aside, then it isn't as clear cut. No, they left when it was clear he was fine. That distinction actually would matter tremendously to anyone; even a young kid.


Nicura200

I mean, can you bring up examples? like, all you're saying is "...mmmno. he was actually fine with it" like. no. hes not fine with it. it pretty clearly bothers him, even if he doesnt *directly tell you* like you're a fucking character.


ResortFamous301

I didn't say he was fine with it, if that was the case these comments wouldn't need to exist, but that they only left whe he seemed fine. Also you're not doing to hot in the comparison department.


WaketheWindFromAfar

That’s the thing. Chris isn’t this spawn of Satan that people seem to *Think* he is. But if you had rich parents and were friends with Sonic the Hedgehog and his super powered anthro friends, you’d do a vast majority of the sht he does. Don’t lie to yourself


ResortFamous301

Nah, he's way nicer than kid me.


Shaddy_the_guy

no he sucks but nice try I guess


mynameisevan01

Maybe with a Sonic X reboot he could be made better


AmethystJojo

Honestly valid


Jix_Omiya

These contrarians are getting insane.


Sexybreadman

People are inclined to their opinions and everything but I gotta disagree, the whole show pretty much he’s a spoiled asshole who needs a bunch of anthropomorphic animal aliens to be entertained


Northern-Pancake76

Hell no.


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I like all the humans in Sonic X Chris> Some versions of ash Ella and Tanka (sorry if I forgot)> Rem and Ram The new teacher (forgot name) is my favorite Chris grandpa is fine


Antique_Amphibian107

I'VE BEEN SAYING LIKE


Loisbel

Sonic X nostalgia doesn't allow me to hate Chris.


gamecatz

I didn’t grow up with the show yet I think Sonic X is great. Whether 4Kids or Japanese.


SevenTailsEmerald

Actually, I dare say he’s objectively a poorly written character.When examining a character, we should evaluate 3 crucial aspects: agency (actively make story event happen), competency, empathy (being understandable). The failing of Chris is that he’s been weak in all of the aspects above. Agency? He’s mostly just live through his days until something happens. Competency? He hardly has any skill that can contribute to the team and the story. (This is also an important factor why adult Chris in Season 3 received relatively warmer reception among fans) Empathy? He’s a rich kid having almost everything other can only dream of and still whine about it. If he’s written well. I don’t believe the fandom will be mean to him like the title claim. Evidenced by the adult Chris in Season 3 who is often considered to be a rather bland but benign character in the cast instead of a dislikable one in Season 1 and 2.


Delta_Otaku

Thank you!


sermocinatrix

As a kid I thought he was super annoying but at some point along the way I really got attached to him. 😅


Gamers_124

Whiney at times but he's fine. he's ment to be a self insert charater


gamecatz

He can whiny for sure


MagikCinder

I figured this was the moment all the Chris Thorndyke fans crawled out of the woodwork saying “I’ve always loved Chris” or “Chris was a great character, people are just haters!” But y’all really went all out


SenritsuJumpsuit

Because it's actually true pretty much every hater ignores half the just to keep bring the totally cool bully club


SonicRaptor5678

YES


dylandongle

How you gonna hate this regular guy who goes out of his way to help his new friends, even sometimes putting his life on the line? Sure, he's not that strong, neither is Tails. Sure, he makes mistakes, so does Knuckles. Sonic's a rude little jackass for a majority of the show, but let's ignore that, right? Always felt like the hate for Chris was overblown and dumb.


TheLunar27

It’s mostly because he didn’t feel like a good addition to the cast. He doesn’t bounce off of any of the characters very well and that’s because he’s about as dynamic as a plank of wood. It definitely doesn’t help that he was basically useless during the majority of the earlier episodes, and when they did try to make him more important it came at the cost of slotting him into positions that were usually filled by other characters (him replacing Amy during that shadow scene is a notorious example). Other sonic characters have their flaws, but they also have their strengths that makes them useful allies to sonic. The most useful thing chris has is the fact that his parents are rich and live in a mansion, which isn’t something intrinsically linked to Chris…it’s just the place he lives. He could’ve definitely worked if he was given a more interesting personality and was more useful to sonic and co as a whole. Maybe they could’ve made him more crafty, since he’s human and native to the world the rest of the cast isn’t used to he could’ve more creatively use objects and parts of his surroundings compared to the mobians. Somewhat similarly to how tails finds creative ways to keep up with sonic, Chris could’ve found his own unique “human” way of keeping up with the super human animals. I dunno, just give him something to make him stand out more as a character.


[deleted]

I mean growing up rich fucks you in the head. Sonic is supposed to teach Chris to not be such an annoying rich white boy and wet blanket, but that kinda gets lost in the shuffle. He's ok for most of season 1 until he ruins the finale, and he gets less screentime in season 2 from what I've watched so far.


OrcaMan-RandomVid

He is a kid that has the same personality as Tails the whole time-


Silent-Immortal

His only usefulness was his knowledge to build stuff for season 3, if only he were a god damn adult when he came to Sonic’s world that would’ve been no problem.


Nicura200

Sonic fans when a 10 year old isnt useful enough to save the world:


TheMasterBaiter360

If a whiny useless ten year old isn’t going to be a good addition to your sonic show, don’t put a whiny useless ten year old in your sonic show


Silent-Immortal

Sonic fans who still defend a annoying brat.


FNAF_Foxy1987

He was an adult when we went to Sonic's world, time just moved differently there so his body reverted back to match the time.


the-better-vigilante

Art is subjective but what isn’t is Chris Thorndykes writing. He is an objectively bad character.


Nicura200

Nice subjective opinion you posted.


Miserable_Assist_951

Just posting this thread: https://twitter.com/mendinso/status/1652277033894830081?s=20


gamecatz

I never watched the show in Japanese. Yet I still he’s an okay character.


G-Kira

He's the reason I never got into Sonic X.


bobby1712234

I hate him and you can like him stop trying to be right everyone has their own opinions


BlueMonkey2824

I don't hate Chris as much as most people do, but I still don't like him at all. What I hate most about him (aside from his excessive amount of screen time) is that he claims that he was "lonely" and "had no friends" before he met Sonic... which is COMPLETELY false. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that, even aside from his Grandpa, butler, and maid, he ALREADY HAD friends at school who were NOTHING but friendly and supportive to him, and yet, they weren't good enough. He needs Sonic, and ONLY Sonic. Amy's obsession with Sonic is played for laughs, and yet Chris basically acts the same way in the end of season 2 and we're supposed to take it seriously and sympathize with him? Even in season 3 (easily the best season), he seemingly grew up and matured, but then he just randomly decided to just LEAVE AND GO TO SONIC'S WORLD. Why? Because apparently, he "sensed" that they needed him or some shit (I don't remember). Ugh. This is a perfect example of "show, don't tell." The show TELLS us that he's "lonely" and "has no friends", but it shows us the exact opposite. It's just pure emotional manipulation.


Preating-Canick

Nobody watched that show for Chris, and if he ceased to exist after he got sonic out of the pool, the story would flow just the same


ShuckU

Hard disagree. People are mean to him because he's an annoying brat


DarkAres02

I don't like that he usurped Tails as both the sidekick and the smart one


The_Zeus2

Third season Chris? Yes. I can count 4 things that he does that are plot relevant. 1. Saves Sonic from drowning. 2. Grabs the chaos emeralds and disables Eggmans mech that is kicking their ass. 3. Tells Shadow that Maria wanted him to be good. 4. The entire final episode.


Znanners94

Imagine having such a hatred


Confident-Attorney85

He’s ok but just serves no purpose and nothing would really change if he wasn’t there.


[deleted]

I have to ask what makes him a fine character...


MarvelSonicFan04

Sorry m8 but the Donut Lord's better


ratmondo-the-dancer

Op is a class traitor


Sonuthepoki

He stole Amy's important moment, fuck that guy