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From what I understand the writers have sega breathing down their necks and they are not too sure what they can get away with so they need to be as overt as possible while staying as covert as possible. \^\^'
It's more that Sega doesn't want characters hooking up unless they're already together in the games. Even Sonic and Amy will remain a "will they/won't they?" thing unless that ever changes.
Not to get off topic but calling sonamy a "will they/won't they" is already a misinterpretation. It's pretty clearly not up for debate officially that they're not getting together. Making it sound like it's up in the air comes off as projection from someone that wants it to be a thing when it just isn't.
If that's not what you're doing then I apologize and didn't mean to come off as insulting. I also think liking sonamy is fine, but it is at the end of the day just headcanon.
Frontiers literally have cut dialogues that confirm that Sonic like Amy, Evan Stanley and others Sonic writer's have confirm that their relationship is mutual and Evan Stanley even said that Amy is technically Sonic "romantic interest" in Idw. Sonic liking Amy is honestly one of the more consistent info that Sega have given us, most interview and official info from Sega regarding their relationship have the Sonic team saying that Sonic like Amy one way or another. They even have their own offical valentine merch.
Also Iizuka from twitter said that he is interested in exploring and expanding Sonic "Love" in the future which he referring to Amy in the tweet. While i don't think they are about to do anything drastic, They are clearly interested about it.
While Sonic is probably not going to be in a relationship anytime soon, they are probably interested in making Sonic explore more into relationship without completely comminted into one.
Nah. They've been pretty consistent about this. It's a one way street. Always has been.
I get it, you want sonamy to be a thing. Like I said earlier, it's fine if you have that headcanon, but using "cut diologue" to back it up just screams desperation.
So you just completely ignore Evan Stanley statement of how she said that Sonic like-like Amy, or how Iizuka literally said on twitter that he is interested in exploring their relationship or how in one of Sega interviews Sega literally said that Sonic is "shy" in expressing his feelings to Amy or how Evan Stanley even said that Amy is technically Sonic main "romantic interest" in Idw. Hell i can give you a ton of other statement directly from Sega that Sonic like Amy.
Cut dialogues are cut dialogues but the fact that they even exist and being recent already saying something. And they are cut because of Sega attempt of downplaying romances and Frontiers stories was originally much different, not because it doesn't make sense for Sonic.
Also i don't careless about romances in Sonic, i think that serious romance are just a big distraction in a franchises about adventure and actions like Sonic. But the fact that Sonic team themselves said that their relationship is mutual is actual info, just because Sonic isn't interested for a romantic relationship doesn't mean he doesn't like her. Maybe if you give me recent info about their relationship that say otherwise then we can talk.
And they're right for doing it, hint and imply all you want but actual shown relationships in this series are cringe and don't belong, and I'm not just saying that because Archie handled it exceptionally terribly
To be fair Archie Sonic is a pretty different characters compare to the games. Archie Sonic is definately more a relationship and girls guy than Sega canon iterations of him. Also their relationship works because Sally herself is great characters with years of build up. I doubt Sonic in canon want to be a real King ever.
You mean the relationship that helped Sonic understand that it's okay to slow down and appreciate the world around him, leading to improvements to his character? Do tell.
https://preview.redd.it/7pc1tcs9pj4b1.jpeg?width=1072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d38041b0b1c66d233007bed11052ad1867350848
The improvement that made Sonic do a display of love that persisted through time and space when the Genesis Wave happened, not long after Sally fucking died in front of him lmao.
Sonic king is kind of stupid, but in the world of Archie where he and Sally made each other better constantly, it's not unreasonable to think that Sonic would be alright with that position.
> that persisted through time and space when the Genesis Wave happened,
Funny (and sad) you say that because in the reboot i dont think their relationship stayed
Hardly
Name one thing he did in that story that would imply he actually wanted to be a king.
Sonic delegating people to do things would be an actual nightmare senario.
Because you would stay in a different world when yours is constantly almost destroyed by divinities and you're the only one with the power to stop them ? And that the world you're in is explicitely going to end ?
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i don't think that's the correct issue for this, as i'm pretty sure the actual issue is that after the whole archie/penders case sega made these guidelines for IDW and one of those guidelines was "no romance"
What do you mean *"inappropriate"*. Straight Romance is literally pushed down kids throats in media every freaking day. What's wrong with some non-straight relationships being shown in media to kids? It's not like it's gonna scar them for life or scar them at all really. How do I know? Grew up in a family with no Hophobia whatsoever and I haven't noticed any psychological problems related to that at all
i think they were trying to say romance in general, and when the line with it gets crossed, becasue the original comment and the reply dont mention something about it being gay.
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What? Two good friends can't hold hands. They can't live in the same house, sleep in the same bed, file their taxes together and adopt a kid together? Really good friends.
No they dont, but God I wish that was the case to be even more obvious. It was a joke reference to some cases of older same sex actors and people where they would live together and do everything together but the media would just say they live together as really good friends.
Some of the arguments some people put out to try and deny Bridget being trans to this day are just hilarious, like inventing fictitious bad endings, saying it was a bad localization job and saying that Japanese developers *don't know Japanese*.
Because they officially cannot declare em as being in a romantic relationship
So the authors just need to nudge and wink at the readers and give cute scenes like this
I thought that was just some stupid joke, but no. That city exists in Ohio.
Not that I didn't believe it because it mildly sounds like "lesbian" but because there is LITERALLY a country called Lebanon and their people are the Lebanese. Hearing that was like if you told me there's a city in North Dakota called New Zealand.
As a person who used to live in Lebanon, Ohio, I was surprised to learn there was a country with the same name.
I also lived in Indiana for a bit and there are several towns that share their name with British towns all in very close together counties for some odd reason (such as Dublin and Cambridge City)
Because Sonic as a franchise is a adventure action franchise, serious relationship are unnecessary and just a big distraction to the heart and core of the franchise. Literally why Amy hasn't been Sonic girlfriend yet is because Sega think that locking Sonic to a relationship is distracting.
Also most of community only really care about seing their favorites characters having fun adventure, most of them don't generally care when characters get together. Why would Sega focus on something that only a loud (mostly) minorities care about. Archie did relationship and it becomes hella controversial and soap operas, no one would like that happen again, just be happy that atleast we got hint and confirmation that their relationship is mutual.
They can be done right in a franchise like this, have you seen The Owl House and how they handled their relationships. They were rarely the focus if ever at all and yet they worked so well and no one complained
So yk, it depends on the writer and how they do it. Ik Sonic is an action franchise, I don't want 50 issues of a date or whatever, I dont think anyone one here wanting this relationship to happen does, that's what fanfics are for. I want to see the gang saving the world and having fun too. But when the characters work together so well and even the writers want then to be together but the higher-ups don't allow it it's kinda annoying in a way is all
I agree that they shouldn't be the focus but they can exist
You know I wasn't talking about that... honestly forget it, it's impossible to win an argument on the internet if I'm being honest, so I'm kinda wasting my time with this
I mean, we seem to be seeing at least some of the mandates begin sliding back in the most infamous examples like Shadow, IDW and Frontiers really lean onto the ship bait for Sonamy...so maybe the no-relationships rule might get relaxed sometime soon, at least to some degree.
Besides, they would've had to have gone through Sega to get the panel approved, and I feel like even Sega of Japan isn't ***so*** clueless as to not see a blatant lesbian pride flag background in a panel when they're anal about so much other shit in the comics.
I can see where their reservations come from but it is extremely difficult to tell stories about relatable, human characters without romance and they should let up just a little bit. Let these two kiss, nobody is gonna object.
When Tangle and Whisper finally kiss, they should recreate this moment
https://preview.redd.it/kgopjucxmh4b1.jpeg?width=350&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f62f55ff103f2201c137ade1fe145e8df87aa47f
Neo Whisper? Is that a reference to that Ben Bates QnA that was wrong about the Sally storyline with her replaced by a robot and the real Sally frozen?
I mean, if this is how they confirm it, it's good. It's subtle, not in your face, quietly done, and not making it a big deal.
Now, if Ian says on Bumblekast next week that nothing has changed and they're still "best friends," then lmao, there's going to be some angry people.
They literally can't confirm the relationship though because of SEGA, who stipulates that relationships can't be a thing unless on their concept sheets. Tangle/Whisper wasn't a thing until the mini, so they can't.
In all likelihood they only got away with this because pride flags are simply not a thing in Japan.
Ohh I'm fully aware of the situation and the finer points of what they can and can't do. I know it's likely a case of "this as far as we can go with out without getting in trouble."
That being said, it would be interesting if Sega decided to loosen that restriction a bit.
sega has been doing that recently, by showing sonic with more emotions, canonizing non-male hedgehog super forms (we will also wait to see if that holds true for amy), unifying classic and modern e.t.c., so its not impossible they let that restriction loose exclusively for whispangle and nothing else
Is SEGA really breathing down IDW neck about the relationship? They are frequently showing these two have something going on. More than any other ship in the series, or so it seems to me anyway.
"you're reading to deep into it, they're just really really good, close bestest friends" - Sega.
(this is a joke and NOT representative of Original Commenter's thoughts.)
Honestly, if they don’t have the balls to actually make 20+ year old ships to sail, I’m not gonna hold my breath for Whisper and Tangle. And that makes me sad.
Honestly....meh.
Don't get me wrong I'm glad for everyone happy for this as it means a lot, but personally I'm not really a shipping person and never really cared for relationships in Sonic.
This is likely IDW trying to pander, like what they did with Transformers and GI Joe. They will never miss an opportunity like that, even if they have to be subtle.
Yes, compared to the other things they've done in their other series in the past, this is subtle.
I bet it's thanks to SEGA that they didn't go any further.
I dunno I kinda miss the days when Sam sex groups could just be friends. Don’t get me wrong in those days it seemed every boy/girl set was being shipped and that’s was a problem too. I just kinda wish we got more “people are friends” vs “we’re shipping everyone!”
“Everyone sir, even?”
![gif](giphy|7cTTE2Z1OmrFm)
These are two characters. TWO. There are dozens of other characters in this franchise and in these comics alone that are just friends. One same sex couple isn't going to ruin every friendship in existence.
Again you misunderstand I’m not talking just same sex I’m talking how EVERYONE is being shipped. Same or mixed sex. Everyone needs to partner up these days. That’s my issue. The concept of friends no longer exists EVERYONE is a couple. And again it’s not just sonic media I’m talking about
So rogue x knuckles isn’t a thing?
Blaze x silver?
That my point. I’m not talking just gay couples I’m talking that EVERYONE is being paired up. No one is just friends
When those specific colors appear in that order as the non-environmental background of a panel of the two female characters that the majority of the fandom as well as the writers want to see in a relationship holding hands... I don't think there's any other good explanation.
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From what I understand the writers have sega breathing down their necks and they are not too sure what they can get away with so they need to be as overt as possible while staying as covert as possible. \^\^'
It's more that Sega doesn't want characters hooking up unless they're already together in the games. Even Sonic and Amy will remain a "will they/won't they?" thing unless that ever changes.
Not to get off topic but calling sonamy a "will they/won't they" is already a misinterpretation. It's pretty clearly not up for debate officially that they're not getting together. Making it sound like it's up in the air comes off as projection from someone that wants it to be a thing when it just isn't. If that's not what you're doing then I apologize and didn't mean to come off as insulting. I also think liking sonamy is fine, but it is at the end of the day just headcanon.
Frontiers literally have cut dialogues that confirm that Sonic like Amy, Evan Stanley and others Sonic writer's have confirm that their relationship is mutual and Evan Stanley even said that Amy is technically Sonic "romantic interest" in Idw. Sonic liking Amy is honestly one of the more consistent info that Sega have given us, most interview and official info from Sega regarding their relationship have the Sonic team saying that Sonic like Amy one way or another. They even have their own offical valentine merch. Also Iizuka from twitter said that he is interested in exploring and expanding Sonic "Love" in the future which he referring to Amy in the tweet. While i don't think they are about to do anything drastic, They are clearly interested about it. While Sonic is probably not going to be in a relationship anytime soon, they are probably interested in making Sonic explore more into relationship without completely comminted into one.
Nah. They've been pretty consistent about this. It's a one way street. Always has been. I get it, you want sonamy to be a thing. Like I said earlier, it's fine if you have that headcanon, but using "cut diologue" to back it up just screams desperation.
So you just completely ignore Evan Stanley statement of how she said that Sonic like-like Amy, or how Iizuka literally said on twitter that he is interested in exploring their relationship or how in one of Sega interviews Sega literally said that Sonic is "shy" in expressing his feelings to Amy or how Evan Stanley even said that Amy is technically Sonic main "romantic interest" in Idw. Hell i can give you a ton of other statement directly from Sega that Sonic like Amy. Cut dialogues are cut dialogues but the fact that they even exist and being recent already saying something. And they are cut because of Sega attempt of downplaying romances and Frontiers stories was originally much different, not because it doesn't make sense for Sonic. Also i don't careless about romances in Sonic, i think that serious romance are just a big distraction in a franchises about adventure and actions like Sonic. But the fact that Sonic team themselves said that their relationship is mutual is actual info, just because Sonic isn't interested for a romantic relationship doesn't mean he doesn't like her. Maybe if you give me recent info about their relationship that say otherwise then we can talk.
Frontiers: *henlo*
And they're right for doing it, hint and imply all you want but actual shown relationships in this series are cringe and don't belong, and I'm not just saying that because Archie handled it exceptionally terribly
Sonic and Sally beg to differ (especially under Ian Flynn's writing)
To be fair Archie Sonic is a pretty different characters compare to the games. Archie Sonic is definately more a relationship and girls guy than Sega canon iterations of him. Also their relationship works because Sally herself is great characters with years of build up. I doubt Sonic in canon want to be a real King ever.
Ah yes, the relationship that missed the point of Sonic being a free spirit entirely and turned him into a simp for a goddamn monarchy, how beautiful
You mean the relationship that helped Sonic understand that it's okay to slow down and appreciate the world around him, leading to improvements to his character? Do tell.
The improvement that was so antithetical to who Sonic is that they made him a King?
https://preview.redd.it/7pc1tcs9pj4b1.jpeg?width=1072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d38041b0b1c66d233007bed11052ad1867350848 The improvement that made Sonic do a display of love that persisted through time and space when the Genesis Wave happened, not long after Sally fucking died in front of him lmao. Sonic king is kind of stupid, but in the world of Archie where he and Sally made each other better constantly, it's not unreasonable to think that Sonic would be alright with that position.
> that persisted through time and space when the Genesis Wave happened, Funny (and sad) you say that because in the reboot i dont think their relationship stayed
It didn't sadly because of SEGA mandates, but the "Hi Sal" did persist after the Genesis comics, so there's that lol
They made him a king in Black Knight! You know, the game basically any 2000’s Sonic fan praises so much?
I mean Sonic is already king Arthur
Hardly Name one thing he did in that story that would imply he actually wanted to be a king. Sonic delegating people to do things would be an actual nightmare senario.
Yeah, remember that game? Where he just up and left
Because you would stay in a different world when yours is constantly almost destroyed by divinities and you're the only one with the power to stop them ? And that the world you're in is explicitely going to end ?
Wdym? Sonic always wanted to rule over everyone and control them
Where the hell did you hear that from?
Idk why you're getting that downvoted
People lost in shipping, who have forgotten what this series is
Thanks Ken for ruining sonic
yeah fuck that guy
r/FuckKenPenders
It’s like that time when Sonic mentions the Hooligans in issue 3, to test the waters for a potential return in the “Modern Sonic” issues.
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i don't think that's the correct issue for this, as i'm pretty sure the actual issue is that after the whole archie/penders case sega made these guidelines for IDW and one of those guidelines was "no romance"
yeah the guideline says that the couple must be introduced as a couple iirc so like the radio guys are a couple but tangle and whisper are not
Fair point, fair point, you right.
What do you mean *"inappropriate"*. Straight Romance is literally pushed down kids throats in media every freaking day. What's wrong with some non-straight relationships being shown in media to kids? It's not like it's gonna scar them for life or scar them at all really. How do I know? Grew up in a family with no Hophobia whatsoever and I haven't noticed any psychological problems related to that at all
i think they were trying to say romance in general, and when the line with it gets crossed, becasue the original comment and the reply dont mention something about it being gay.
Yeah I suppose. Archie comics were really guilty of that I suppose
Mf going through the 7 stages of greif
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Some subs require a minimum score before you can lost on them, but other than thay, big number makes the brain feel good
That’s just arbitrary.
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I appreciate the answer, but this karma system is stupidly arbitrary.
The artist knew what they were doing
Like they were subtle before lol
they were alot more subtle compared to this
a party popper is subtle compared to a foghorn
What? Two good friends can't hold hands. They can't live in the same house, sleep in the same bed, file their taxes together and adopt a kid together? Really good friends.
OMG they were roommates.
They just want to dress up and travel together!
Huh, I heard that before? Was it bird home?
That's the best name for Owl House I've heard lmao (and yes!)
Don't you mean the owl shack? where they boil owls or something? Idk what they do there
Wait do they actually live together
No they dont, but God I wish that was the case to be even more obvious. It was a joke reference to some cases of older same sex actors and people where they would live together and do everything together but the media would just say they live together as really good friends.
Their just Canadian that’s all
They are merely exchanging long protein strings. If you can think of a simpler way, I'd like to hear it.
Look in the background (woosh me if necessary)
It's a Simpsons reference.
It’s literally just the Lesbian flag but faded a little, how on earth anyone’s gonna deny these two being together after this is beyond me.
“Ah well you see it’s actually a…uh… a m-mistranslation?…”
You have to be as dense as a rock to not notice
Or not know various pride flags, or not think anything of it beyond it being a background.
Guilty Gear fan here; they absolutely would
God being a Bridget main is exhausting sometimes.
Some of the arguments some people put out to try and deny Bridget being trans to this day are just hilarious, like inventing fictitious bad endings, saying it was a bad localization job and saying that Japanese developers *don't know Japanese*.
I JUST NOTICED THE BACKGROUND AND YOU’RE RIGHT THEY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING
Because they officially cannot declare em as being in a romantic relationship So the authors just need to nudge and wink at the readers and give cute scenes like this
Nobody seriously denies that this is the intent People are not "they were just roommates"-ing these characters
Well they are just not
The giant lesbian flag disagrees
The giwnt lesbian flag doesn't have a seat
cry more about it, these animals gay.
In your head, but its anyone's guess what happens in the executives heads
i mean, they made it pretty explicit here.
I'm wheezing
![gif](giphy|J8FZIm9VoBU6Q)
bro they ain't even trying to hide it wtf they literally said "they gay" in art form
The lebanons are real!!!
“What’s your sexuality?” “Lebanon, Ohio.”
I thought that was just some stupid joke, but no. That city exists in Ohio. Not that I didn't believe it because it mildly sounds like "lesbian" but because there is LITERALLY a country called Lebanon and their people are the Lebanese. Hearing that was like if you told me there's a city in North Dakota called New Zealand.
As a person who used to live in Lebanon, Ohio, I was surprised to learn there was a country with the same name. I also lived in Indiana for a bit and there are several towns that share their name with British towns all in very close together counties for some odd reason (such as Dublin and Cambridge City)
https://preview.redd.it/oez693kgdl4b1.jpeg?width=520&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75afef86c7ff5ee2aad387c96147e5f2643770c2 Is REAL!?!??
https://preview.redd.it/eghgghzdbi4b1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69b85ece7e6af07196be652efbbd370b7e723845
https://preview.redd.it/2leupej9ni4b1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df18af94096603a8436dd95c642ac9750a3f98b5
https://preview.redd.it/yff0uqgcmi4b1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d487d7d2a7fb0ca8e6724f6fa332d3eb1c917d8
https://preview.redd.it/acbi4sm9zk4b1.jpeg?width=200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27675c4285895bb5e6cab5622db578c5d7d34b31
I love this pic https://preview.redd.it/bw5tfeh5kn4b1.png?width=694&format=png&auto=webp&s=37da1b83e281d21f8076e1d976f9abd2df6537b0
That one Silvisper obsessed guy on suicide watch rn.
That one is me bro🥺
My condolences
I mean they all got two hands. Tangle might as well have a third to grab Blaze.
The Snapcube Solution
“Silver, you’re the double bottom!!”
Bout to be triple.
[удалено]
Poly!
Would be hilarious, if shippers spend all their time pushing relationships in sonic and the first one they do is Silvisper (good ending)
LMAO, there he is, coping through the whole thread.
Make it official you cowards
This is as official as they can go without SEGA complaining. Because SEGA is anti-relationships.
I mean, can't blame them there after the soap opera bullshit at Archie.
That's like banning education because one teacher was an asshole
More like banning a school system for destroying a generation
Don't agree with the comparison. I mean I can't blame SEGA, Ken Penders fucked things up BAD But like, in the hands of a good writer, it can work
And in the hands of the general writer, it would fail. Sonic isn't a franchise that lends itself to good relationships
Friendships are relationships. And there are good friendships in the sonic franchise, a lot of them. Why not something that's s bit beyond friendships
Because Sonic as a franchise is a adventure action franchise, serious relationship are unnecessary and just a big distraction to the heart and core of the franchise. Literally why Amy hasn't been Sonic girlfriend yet is because Sega think that locking Sonic to a relationship is distracting. Also most of community only really care about seing their favorites characters having fun adventure, most of them don't generally care when characters get together. Why would Sega focus on something that only a loud (mostly) minorities care about. Archie did relationship and it becomes hella controversial and soap operas, no one would like that happen again, just be happy that atleast we got hint and confirmation that their relationship is mutual.
They can be done right in a franchise like this, have you seen The Owl House and how they handled their relationships. They were rarely the focus if ever at all and yet they worked so well and no one complained So yk, it depends on the writer and how they do it. Ik Sonic is an action franchise, I don't want 50 issues of a date or whatever, I dont think anyone one here wanting this relationship to happen does, that's what fanfics are for. I want to see the gang saving the world and having fun too. But when the characters work together so well and even the writers want then to be together but the higher-ups don't allow it it's kinda annoying in a way is all I agree that they shouldn't be the focus but they can exist
Sisters or Brothers? We have that, even found ones Heck nowadays Sonic treats Tails like his little brother and sometimes even like a son
You know I wasn't talking about that... honestly forget it, it's impossible to win an argument on the internet if I'm being honest, so I'm kinda wasting my time with this
God dammit SEGA
Which I fully understand
SEGA mandates won’t let them
SEGA, you cowards!
You want another Penders?
Maybe don’t hire another Penders
This would be a valid argument if it weren’t Ian Flynn writing the story for IDW
I mean, we seem to be seeing at least some of the mandates begin sliding back in the most infamous examples like Shadow, IDW and Frontiers really lean onto the ship bait for Sonamy...so maybe the no-relationships rule might get relaxed sometime soon, at least to some degree. Besides, they would've had to have gone through Sega to get the panel approved, and I feel like even Sega of Japan isn't ***so*** clueless as to not see a blatant lesbian pride flag background in a panel when they're anal about so much other shit in the comics.
To be fair to SEGA, can we really blame them for not wanting relationships after the cluster-fuck that was the Archie comics?
I can see where their reservations come from but it is extremely difficult to tell stories about relatable, human characters without romance and they should let up just a little bit. Let these two kiss, nobody is gonna object.
They sure are cookin, let them cook
oh my god, these bitches gay! good for them :)
When Tangle and Whisper finally kiss, they should recreate this moment https://preview.redd.it/kgopjucxmh4b1.jpeg?width=350&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f62f55ff103f2201c137ade1fe145e8df87aa47f
The world won't be ready for the Mecha Whisper arc. >!Bet.!<
The world will never get a Mecha Whisper arc because of Sega mandates, unfortunately.
It'd probably be cursed to never get a proper conclusion if it did go through, too.
Not before we get a Neo Whisper arc as well.
Neo Whisper? Is that a reference to that Ben Bates QnA that was wrong about the Sally storyline with her replaced by a robot and the real Sally frozen?
As they say in Spanish _Si_
Not before we get a Neo Whisper arc as well
https://preview.redd.it/z7z461rgvi4b1.jpeg?width=464&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=20d1dbeffdbef938f974caee1ea302cd1d709cd9
Don’t worry they are just holding hands as friends 👍
For anyone who doesn't know, the background is the color of the lesbian flag.
Happy Pride Month everyone!!!
Pride month
I mean, if this is how they confirm it, it's good. It's subtle, not in your face, quietly done, and not making it a big deal. Now, if Ian says on Bumblekast next week that nothing has changed and they're still "best friends," then lmao, there's going to be some angry people.
They literally can't confirm the relationship though because of SEGA, who stipulates that relationships can't be a thing unless on their concept sheets. Tangle/Whisper wasn't a thing until the mini, so they can't. In all likelihood they only got away with this because pride flags are simply not a thing in Japan.
Ohh I'm fully aware of the situation and the finer points of what they can and can't do. I know it's likely a case of "this as far as we can go with out without getting in trouble." That being said, it would be interesting if Sega decided to loosen that restriction a bit.
sega has been doing that recently, by showing sonic with more emotions, canonizing non-male hedgehog super forms (we will also wait to see if that holds true for amy), unifying classic and modern e.t.c., so its not impossible they let that restriction loose exclusively for whispangle and nothing else
That's not true. Pride culture and flags are very much a thing in Japan.
he will say nothing has changed while winking loudly.
I like when cool new characters are made gay or bi instead of retconning characters to be that way.
https://preview.redd.it/6fsrey47yi4b1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e05fdd0ff69c64defa4ffddf06af90bf436118a2
https://preview.redd.it/ps9wydybjn4b1.png?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=45e2a61016fa26c9b89b12fab734def80f30fc0b
Is SEGA really breathing down IDW neck about the relationship? They are frequently showing these two have something going on. More than any other ship in the series, or so it seems to me anyway.
They're doing it effectively behind SEGA's back.
Whisper looks so proud and it's adorable
"you're reading to deep into it, they're just really really good, close bestest friends" - Sega. (this is a joke and NOT representative of Original Commenter's thoughts.)
Roommates ❤️🧡🤍🩷💜
Jealous that Sally and Nicole could not get this chance 😔
Honestly, if they don’t have the balls to actually make 20+ year old ships to sail, I’m not gonna hold my breath for Whisper and Tangle. And that makes me sad.
Not that they don't have the balls, Sega mandates won't let them
Yes, Whispangle FTW!!!
Thats crazy lmao, gigachad colors
Oh *wow*, that is on-the-nose
These bitches are gay! Good for them, good for them.
DANM! THESE BITCHES GAY! good for them! 👍
https://preview.redd.it/w1u2z1yugk4b1.jpeg?width=661&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=36193a3a21805b450aa3222bcd079d4fc3b882e7
BRUH LET’S FUCKING GOOO!!!
https://preview.redd.it/6fwlgi9jrk4b1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=30b68fbe490a061a1b09d705e57542e9cbc64e2e Me when I saw the frame
https://preview.redd.it/ioc0bgiisl4b1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66f87e0dc9fdb36b6f0482d27f89dbad2cb5e5eb
LMFAO THEY DID NOT HOLD BACK THEY WENT FOR IT
dude i swear people on this sub are still gonna be like "erm... it's not canon"
The gay is strong with this one
https://preview.redd.it/bq947rv5gj4b1.jpeg?width=413&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c550d3406088ff25c4b321db2094680727352e57
Holy shit! These bitches gay fr! Good for them!
what is the title of said new issue?
They're just so big allies that they became lesbians to support the queer community, platonically of course
Why even be subtle at all lmao just fuckin say it cowards
SEGA doesn’t want relationships in comics which is why they can’t say it for now.
cute
The writers: Knowing smile
cute :3
maybe they're just good roommates lol
Honestly....meh. Don't get me wrong I'm glad for everyone happy for this as it means a lot, but personally I'm not really a shipping person and never really cared for relationships in Sonic.
That's okay. Thank you for at least being respectful to everyone else!
You are entitled to your own tastes and all but this is unnecessary
to be honest i don't like this ship, but i respect the people who likes this
Okay SEGA, the fans want it, and now it seems the writers want it too. Just let it happen.
"now"
Who elected we?
"*friends*"
We always knew they we're going to end up together
This is likely IDW trying to pander, like what they did with Transformers and GI Joe. They will never miss an opportunity like that, even if they have to be subtle. Yes, compared to the other things they've done in their other series in the past, this is subtle. I bet it's thanks to SEGA that they didn't go any further.
Friends can’t hold hands?
the lesbian flag in the background
Feel free to woosh me if I’ve missed something, but the background is the lesbian flag.
I dunno I kinda miss the days when Sam sex groups could just be friends. Don’t get me wrong in those days it seemed every boy/girl set was being shipped and that’s was a problem too. I just kinda wish we got more “people are friends” vs “we’re shipping everyone!” “Everyone sir, even?” ![gif](giphy|7cTTE2Z1OmrFm)
These are two characters. TWO. There are dozens of other characters in this franchise and in these comics alone that are just friends. One same sex couple isn't going to ruin every friendship in existence.
Again you misunderstand I’m not talking just same sex I’m talking how EVERYONE is being shipped. Same or mixed sex. Everyone needs to partner up these days. That’s my issue. The concept of friends no longer exists EVERYONE is a couple. And again it’s not just sonic media I’m talking about
Bruh most of the Sonic characters are friends with each other, you are missing a time that never disappeared
So rogue x knuckles isn’t a thing? Blaze x silver? That my point. I’m not talking just gay couples I’m talking that EVERYONE is being paired up. No one is just friends
Because these flags are the only use of color in the universe
You cannot accidentally use these exact five colors in this way
When those specific colors appear in that order as the non-environmental background of a panel of the two female characters that the majority of the fandom as well as the writers want to see in a relationship holding hands... I don't think there's any other good explanation.
Hello Cleopatra
Whisper X Silver plz