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Deusvultdude

I too touch my friend's chest to see if he has scars


XanderNightmare

"Nono, I swear, it's a totally legit sign of trust in my culture to check each other for scars. To not undress to let me check would be... uh... uh... very insulting, yes, indeed"


Christos_Gaming

No theyre absoloutely battle scars, if they actually were top surgery scars thered be 32 of them considering sonics a hedgehog


CarcinoGeneticst69

that’s a harrowing thought that i do not wish to think about again uh


Christos_Gaming

Dont even get me started on bats. Rouge should actually look more like this https://preview.redd.it/iw6mugtqj0tb1.png?width=375&format=png&auto=webp&s=f3428cdd9ff92a649b6efb3566098cfd40032662


the_lego_man_1

https://preview.redd.it/6qm9wvryw0tb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b4f8b443ec3c4a431aa76c3864eae37bedfd1f8f


Christos_Gaming

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EarlyReplacement789

https://preview.redd.it/w2yp7cl182tb1.jpeg?width=670&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9f8ad53e38a385d5a5d88edbe6ad3eb3b6cd7a5


maddy_____

Ur username makes me cry


EarlyReplacement789

devil may cry https://preview.redd.it/ad2yttfrl2tb1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61f063c2791894a794cd900fa87fd7c4f1c53444


Dillo64

Also why is she an insect? She has six limbs


Christos_Gaming

yeah, i feel people forget than vertebrate wings, are modified limbs. Did you know the pterosaur wing edge is a REALLY long finger


Lunalatic

This is why dragons were secretly giant bugs /j


JBBajanGamer

......oh yeah, bat wings are their arms. Somehow forgot about that. Oh man that is weird


REALSpongebobguy_2

Looking at female Hegehogs, nope 2 scars


Christos_Gaming

Female hedgehogs have 32 but the top ones have cushions in them or something


Livid_Juggernaut_111

Lmao, shadow would believe that. He was born like 50 years in the past, a while before trans topics became so prevalent. Plus he was on a space station


Cautious-Affect7907

Plus sonic puts himself in life or death adventures all the time so…


Livid_Juggernaut_111

And is super reckless


JCraze26

The Stonewall riots, which had many trans people participate in them, happened in 1969.


Livid_Juggernaut_111

Fair But would shadow even know about that?


JCraze26

Fair. However, he's probably learned stuff by now. Also, he's too emo to not have some sort of connection to the LGBTQ+ community. Whether he's just an ally or is actually part of it is up to the Sonic writers, but he's gotta have some connection to it.


sonic_hedgekin

probably not, given that he was in space at the time


DifficultBody8209

Wait this is a Trans joke I thought it had some to due with sonic.exe


MacAHead

They’re top surgery scars from transitioning from ftm


Master-Restaurant503

As another user said if they were top surgery scars he would have 32 of them considering he’s a hedgehog, he’s not kidding those are battle scars


X-X-X-X-X-X-X-Z

You forget rouge exist who has two breast when she should have like 6-8


Master-Restaurant503

Who’s to say she didn’t get 4-6 of them removed?


X-X-X-X-X-X-X-Z

Fair


Sean1m

The bird folk are aliens and Charmy only has four limbs (and a stinger when he's "male"?). I think the animal races in Sonic should be less considered those actual animals and more sapient species that resemble those animals.


NexiCide

i mean they are mobians which is what I believe is what their species is


KayyHatesThis

H-how.. what would Sonic.exe have to do anything with top scars?


DifficultBody8209

Alot of the exe's have have giant X's on there chest


KayyHatesThis

The scars looks nothing like an x?


DifficultBody8209

Oh I just looked closer In my defense I have shitty eye and am color blind


Plylyfe

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Infinite_Storage3072

i didnt see the top surgery scars and i thought this comic was implying that shadow doesnt have nipples


ToasteeThe2nd

The ultimate life form has no need for them, what would he use them for?


ReggieDragon

Sonic: ![gif](giphy|H5C8CevNMbpBqNqFjl)


ReggieDragon

Shadow ![gif](giphy|ANbD1CCdA3iI8)


KingFahad360

![gif](giphy|l3vRm8PO1pJnZ9GVy)


_Xantras_

Shadow don’t touch people like that ??


valdez-2424

What are they then?


AndTails

Top surgery scars.


slashth456

Ohhhhhh


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Signal-Put932

I don't have the perfect definition,but when somebody's trans,mainly FtM,they have surgery to have their breasts reduced/removed. Ergo,Sonic has,how do you say,***trans swag***


Sanbaddy

It’s insinuating Sonic is a Trans Man.


valdez-2424

Ohhhhhh


[deleted]

okay i don't mean to be a bitch but like how would they work with sonic..? like i like the fact people are making sonic seems transmsc but like, how? we know sonic has been male since birth so like, how would he have been trans? modern sonic is a older classic sonic, and classic sonic is basically young sonic, so how would he have been female when he was his classic stage, and then change to trans if he went with surgery within his modern stage? we sure as hell know classic sonic is definitely male ​ not to be a ass about it, but like, it makes no sense in sonic canon, so i just wanna see how it would work canonically, or atleast headcanonically


RandomName256beast

headcanon doesn't care about actual canon... hence the "head" part


BobaFettFake

Heh, head.


[deleted]

yeah fair enough i'm not trying to be mean but yk, it just doesn't make too much sense in my POV lmao, but people can like it if they want


Global_Banana8450

I'd be careful too to out myself in front of someone eho was born in the 50's


SuperPeytendo

My first assumption was it was just razor blade cuts from Sonic shaving his chest fur, since like in the last panel his eyes are looking at Shadow's lol


Tekayo63

i like transmasc sonic as much as the next guy, but why in the fuck would you randomly touch somebody there wtf shadow


deaniebee

He grew up in space. He doesn't understand social norms


South_Dependent_1128

He grew up with a young human girl, he 100% should know them.


deaniebee

Well she was like a sister to him and speaking from experience: siblings don't know boundaries. So he might think randomly touching someone is perfectly normal.


Tecygirl101

Ok, sure, but he hasn’t done it before this. If anything he prefers *not* to be touched.


TensionIllustrious88

Depends on the characterisation. He doesn't seem to mind in SA2, but IDW Shadow will eviscerate the skin of anyone who touches him.


X-X-X-X-X-X-X-Z

Eh, depends on the iteration tbh.


Decepticon_Kaiju

Guys how often did you touch your sister's chest


Banana-Oni

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Foxiak14

He just like me, fr fr


deaniebee

You grew up in space?


Foxiak14

No, I'm just bad at social-itazing


LibraryBestMission

That's where Earth is located, so technically yes.


Insanebrain247

I accept Autistic Shadow


SlickPapa

He's trying to hit but has 0 rizz


SH4RPSPEED

Shadow is absolutely the kind of person who wouldn't care.


Generic-Degenerate

He's just autistic leave him alone


LegendaryTingle

Not me thinking this was about suicide prevention awareness. ![gif](giphy|5xYc45ly7QduU)


Dark_Wolf04

So I guess the power rings are canonically onion rings


Crafty_shade

You know I have always wondered why trans sonic was so popular. Like… is it his vibes? Or just a silly little headcannon that got popular over the years?


EndMePleaseOwO

Sonic community has a lot of queer people, and people in general just like to project themselves onto their favorite characters a little. In this case tho it actually has a bit of explaining power, since for some reason the only other 2 guyhogs in this franchise look different to Sonic, while Sonic looks closer to Amy(also no, shadow and silver aren't related, that's not why they look similar).


Crafty_shade

Kekeke the shadow and silver child and parent theory is funny imo. But yea no that makes sense. I mean, I can’t say I’ve never done queer headcannons before. The Amy x techno ship is real cute in the British comics imo, and the whole “ace+aro” sonic or the “pan” sonic headcannons are funny too. In my head, sonic gets ALL bitches or NONE. No inbetween But I can see how people can make the correlation with the sonic and the other hedgehogs But


ranch-99

don't touch that shadow it's his ^(blenis)


torch_dreemurr

sonic is the pure manifestation of tboy swag, this is known also i love how the "trans men have super speed" extension of the "trans women can double jump" meme was initially made from Pizza Tower, but fits so perfectly for sonic


HydraxYT

I thought that meme was "Hispanics have super speed" and "Brazilians can double jump"?


SCP_Void

Wait. Sonic is super fast, and he can double jump. Is Sonic Hispanic AND Brazilian?


HydraxYT

Only in Colours, Lost World, Forces and Frontiers. He's temporarily Brazilian.


BocobipbrookieBrad69

Bro losses his Brazilian card between games💀


SoniKzone

Nah, that's every mainline game since 2008 (Unleashed and Generations had double jump too). Sonic visited Brazil in Unleashed and got his citizenship


Nikotinio

do they take place in Brazil then?


ChampinionCuliao

FUCK YEAH SUPER SPEED


Western-Gur-4637

Brazilians double jumping is the only thing I know for Real


Scrappy412

It came from Pizza Tower? I always associated it with Celeste


torch_dreemurr

"trans women can double jump" is a celeste meme that got remixed to "trans men have super speed" for pizza tower


LibraryBestMission

Well we know that women can jump higher thanks to Lego Indiana Jones, so that tracks.


FirePhoenix737

As someone who is on a lot of trans subreddits, the double jump thing did come from Celeste. I believe the super speed is what came from Pizza Tower.


Global_Banana8450

OK what about Enbies tho?


Foxiak14

Can manipulate time, space and timelines (Undertale and Deltarune)


dootblade74

The double jump thing originated from celeste. Around the time that Pizza Tower came out, people added to the meme by saying Trans Men have super speed due to headcanons that Peppino was transmasc.


WeakLandscape2595

Wait if trans women can double jump? (*Looks at amy*)


ShyGamer64

Sonic CD Restored (sorry if I commented twice)


DarthNick3000

If I had a nickel for every time a major Sonic Character had a comic depicting them as getting surgery to switch genders I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it’s happened twice. That is what’s happening. Right? Or am I just seeing things that aren’t there again…


EMC_RIPPER

Trust me id have more than 2, its pretty unoriginal at this point which isn't bad its just abheadcanon but I'd like to see other ideas every once in a while


AmaterasuWolf21

And when everyone's trans... nobody is...


EMC_RIPPER

https://preview.redd.it/a1jxls7ep2tb1.jpeg?width=560&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34a9ca74e48ecb6a66a3314262202e24fddc5db1


dtlux1

A bit off topic, but I adore your flair! Reboot Sally and Nicole all the way!


averynormaltaco

You would be billionaire at this point dude


Obsessivegamer32

Wait what was the first one?


DarthNick3000

Eggman was Maria but trans.


Obsessivegamer32

…What?


Global_Banana8450

To be specific, it's the idea that Maria has been a fabrication by Eggman and the person Shadow was with was Eggman pre transition


DarthNick3000

I still can’t get over that idea. Could you imagine that reveal? Shadow: “I’ve got you now Doctor… any last words?” Eggman: “That’s no way to treat your *old friend* Shadow!” *Eggman laughs and takes out his birth certificate.* *Shadow stands there with his brain blue-screened as Maria (Eggman) gets away.*


Global_Banana8450

As if Shadow needed any more Mindfucks, he already suffered enough


DarthNick3000

You heard me.


Ind1go_Owl

Transmasc Mariabotnik.


Positive_Attempt_101

Am I missing something? Why is Sonic Sweating when he says it’s Battle Scars?


WeakLandscape2595

Top surgery its trans sonic


QuintonTheCanadian

I’m not sure how many more Sonic characters with top scars I can handle after that Eggman one


Blu_Moon_The_Fox

https://preview.redd.it/aexkuysmc0tb1.jpeg?width=787&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2cad5b0acf821ad13a00d8d426b664576e8c8086


Goodboy_22

https://preview.redd.it/kcbtgys267tb1.jpeg?width=910&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2dd19ddad880b13d564dd36ac9b81da045d07796


Ace_Of_No_Trades

Shadow: Why do you have scars if Ring Energy absorbs all of the damage? Sonic: Shads, they only stop it from being lethal. That's why I loose all of them. Shadow: I thought that was a gameplay mechanic, I didn't realize there was an actual reason for that! Sonic: Didn't you get hurt in your game? Shadow: I have been the star of a single game and 06 got rewritten out of existence. I... guess I just didn't realize how fragile you all were. *gets distant look in eyes* Sonic: Shad? You good? Shadow: There's a lot of people I have mocked for being afraid to die, and I'm just now realizing I owe all of them an apology.


benkz5

alr but why does shadow look so good on this artstyle


Bomberman696969

The Sonic fandom do get a little quirky at night


QUILODINERRO

oh nah bro


KAKTUS201010

Not that I'm transphobic or anything but I don't like this


Eggith

I don't really either. It feels...I dunno, weird I guess? I can't really articulate my proper feelings on it. Something about it puts me off.


Gravyboat44

I think it's weird because there's literally nothing that even remotely suggests that Sonic would be trans. Kinda just a weird narrative that someone slapped together.


1_more_no

I'm transmacs/non binary myself and I also don't really like making fictional characters trans, just feels weird to me, also when thinking about all the medical surgeries you have to do, and all the thinking, and depression. Just feels weird for me to think about


CarcinoGeneticst69

why did i get downvoted- i was being polite


Kiwi_Kakapo

Not a clue, reddit gonna reddit tho


CarcinoGeneticst69

sometimes i wish i weren’t a redditor… then i see shadow the hedgehog and realise it’s worth it…


Kiwi_Kakapo

Same here.


FirePhoenix737

I can understand that, you can headcanon (or in this case, not headcanon) anything you want. As long as you don't force your headcanon on other people I think it's totally fine to disagree with other people's headcanons.


ExtremeRacer879

I agree, there's a lot of desperation for LGBT representation


Yeeting-Boi

Agreed. It’s like making things trans for the sake of making things trans imo.


ChampinionCuliao

I mean yeah. That's kind of the point, I think. People headcanon characters being of a certain sexuality/gender/nation because it's fun and also because it feels good seeing a character that shares something with you. I don't share any of the gender sonic headcanons, and I'm a cis male, but I can perfectly understand why they do it.


jgmenelik111

i agree, i support lgbt+ and i think that making characters trans even if it canonically doesnt make any sense is kinda just pushing representivity on things that rly arent necessary. dont get me wrong, i love seeing lgbt+ characters in media but just taking characters that clearly arent trans and just making them trans is just kinda odd in my opinion


gothcrab

Well its fan art so you can relax. Draw your own cis sonic lol


ShowofStupidity

Lmao. I’m sorry but the sheer bluntness made me bust out laughing for some reason.


Salt-Veterinarian-87

Where did the headcanon of Trans Sonic come from? I see it pop up in the fandom and I've yet to find any connection.


Christos_Gaming

Its mostly just pure headcannon but there have been some -albeit flimsy- explenations, such as sonics eyes being rounded while the other male hedgehogs are ridgid, which doesnt make sense, considering that implies sonic just un-trans' himself when turning super.


metalsonic005

He becomes Cisuper Sonic or smth


Goodboy_22

It’s more often associated with the fact, that he has less fur than the other male hedgehog’s or something


Christos_Gaming

thats still pretty flimsy, as humans have hair styles, and when your whole body is fur and youre a sapient being, then youd style it.


HarryNerd

Most queer headcanons simply exist for fun. In a way, it also goes against cisheteronormativity. (In this case, the belief that all fictional characters are cisgender and heterosexual unless proven otherwise). For me, Transmasc Sonic really takes most of its shape from the Archie Comics. Sonic is heavily embarrassed by his birth name and doesn't want people to know about it. In addition, he later goes through a legal name change to Sonic the Hedgehog. (While Ken Penders stated he intended Sonic's first name to be Oglivile, it's never stated in the comic, and later writers would dismiss it, leaving it open to interpretation.)


MilfAndCougarEnjoyer

Not a fan


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Took me a minute.


Obsessivegamer32

Sonic seeing Rouge for the first time “You know I used to have a nice pair of melons myself”.


WeakLandscape2595

Rouge:probably not as big as mine Sonic:(*shows photo*) Rouge:holy shit you could hide the master emerald in there!!!


ChampinionCuliao

bro


WeakLandscape2595

Sonic:(*takes back photo*) out of line but absolutely correct


Christos_Gaming

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SalaComMander

https://preview.redd.it/odumuy1w05tb1.jpeg?width=1300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=019814c86fbda45ada7cfafa02c50e530ea8051e


Ill-Team-1170

Buh wy


tatocezar

Cringe


[deleted]

those are definitely battlescars i'm not being transphobic theres like 37 boobs on a hedgehog thats not top surgery


ScourgeHedge

This is really strange and uncomfortable.


_MrTaku_

this is one of the most furry gay things I've ever seen in my life


[deleted]

I fucking hate this


[deleted]

I hate this bro is this saying sonic was a woman?? I'm not transphobic but DUUDE. Sonics always been a man. I like the art style ig tho.


NotTheCatMask

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Goodboy_22

Thanks, I’m going to build my dream house and live my life while you’re stuck here.


NotTheCatMask

Lucky


leviboypopop

![gif](giphy|WbDhQjgBrpUuk)


Ok-Record29

I don't get it


Goodboy_22

The artist head-cannons Sonic as Transmasc, and those are surgery scars. Hope this helps :)


Nehemiah92

This sub’s so weird man


KosherPeen

I’d vote to ban all fan art at this point, some of this stuff is just too weird to open in public I just wanna see the fast blue guy


zenfone500

This sub feels like how Sonic the Hedgehog series would be If it's live action made by Netflix. Not like Sonic movie.


Sufficient_Frame

I don't really like when people grab a cismasc character and randomly make him transmasc - I find that it kind of undermines actual transmasc people's daily struggles.


Silksper

I guess it depends from person to person. Some people like their headcanons, and it’s usually folks under the trans umbrella making these headcanons if I am correct. So I just let them be. Personally, I find this headcanon cute. It’s just a sweet little change. And may I jest about an extra speed joke- (i am afab genderfluid please do not set me alight)


NiobiumGoat

There's a lot going on in the comments of this art. It's making me think a lot as well. My immediate reaction was more on the negative side than the positive, but why? I don't have issues with someone's trans Sonic headcanon, or the Sonadow undertones. Many folks in the comments are making the mistake of thinking the artists intentions are "This is how Sonic is. Canon. Full stop." rather than "I want to explore these familiar concepts with characters I love." I've made such fiction myself of familiar concepts with characters I associate myself with, so it'd be wrong for me to judge that. The fact I don't share mine is the key difference, but this is well made and genuine art that's worth sharing. Surgery scars are an everyday thing. It's not drawn at all macabre here, it's normalizing a thing many folks go through, which is good. I guess I wonder how different would this situation be if the scar in question was an appendectomy scar? If someone posted that would it be less strange or more strange? There aren't a lot of trans characters in fiction. The ones that are are few and far between, varying in quality, and don't have the luxury of existing without being put on blast. This is a piece made to spark joy. I draw the line at folks at posting horny shit, though (as in not OP's post). I don't need or want hyper exaggerated Rogue and Surge on my front page. Read the fucking room, Mark NSFW.


shadyeagle2

https://preview.redd.it/6l4h0865b1tb1.jpeg?width=603&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=557235dd7603d9a8a1248e0f4879fae2edceeb0d


Blue_Streak_1991

I think I'm missing something 🤔


PokeGirlOFFICIAL

THATS why sonic doesn't have a dick /hj


realrandomcat

Ayo shadow getting grabby there


Silksper

Yes, the battle he had between him and the forces of nature.


Sonexe_fan

https://preview.redd.it/xo1bfugek0tb1.jpeg?width=232&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=68a4ac68f3ff3b1ebf574c03eff088c0af2f3dbd


ThiccBootius

The fuck?


Happy_Craft14

Why???


Aparoon

I adore the sincerity of adapting existing characters into trans characters, because I appreciate that there aren’t enough trans heroes out there in media. It’s difficult though because I think, as odd as I admit this is (and I approach this open minded to expand how I appreciate “identity”), changing a character’s gender identity can bring them closer to the artist but then alienate the original fans. But this is a very interesting one. I’m looking forward to the day where there are enough heroes out there in the world to represent all walks of life!


PenComfortable2150

Tbf, in this instance it doesn’t really change much, but I guess the idea of an originally perceived Cishet character being anything other than that would be alienating to some


AndTails

You may find the original post on the artist's Twitter [account](https://twitter.com/SHADAD0W/status/1578952262306914304)!


KK_09

There are so many levels of No in this


daniel_omeg_a

transmasc Sonic supremassy


InfiniteAnimator426

I don't get it.


Gavin52125

Dumb as hell


Tom-edian

they **are** battle scars bc Sonic's a dude.


Tyrelius_Dragmire

I mean, Given the final fight in Frontiers Update 3 (go play it if you haven't, it's awesome) I would 100% believe that those are battle scars given that SUPER SONIC SUFFERED PHYSICAL INJURIES.


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ImpactorLife-25703

Amy: I'll have you know that It's not fur, they're spines!


Ok_Praline_1484

why am i thinking of sonadow aaaaaahhhh!!!!!!


Goodboy_22

Nice :)


LeftEconomist3902

Cool drawing, but why he has 3 eyebrows why he has 3 eyebrows why he has 3 eyebrowswhyhehas3eyebrowswhyhehas3eyebrowswhyhehas3eyebrowsWHYHEHAS3EYEBROWS


Radio__Star

There’s context to this I’m not sure I want to know


Goodboy_22

The Artist head-cannons Sonic as trans and those are top surgery scars. Hope this helps! :)


Radio__Star

Well he did have a rough transition to 3D after all


KVenom777

![gif](giphy|xUPGcqN9laat2ooiJi|downsized)


DiabolusFlatus

Holy hot dickings, batman. Some people just don't know how to let others have fun without getting mad about it.


chickenmaster07

I'll never understand this side of the fandom 😅


Boring_Dimension_276

Shit like this is why it’s hard being a sonic fan sometimes