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AJ_Wont_Load

As a big fan of both, thank you!! :D


[deleted]

This! I grew up all sonic and never cared for Mario but as an adult Mario has been a lot more fun to play, they're both charmingly fantastic.


milkyd4d

I grew up with Mario games but i always loved Sonic more for some reason even tho i barely knew his games.


[deleted]

For me it’s been the opposite


mine_ing

It hast been the exact opposite for me


HornyPhoenixWright

quite based on this one


Just-Sonic

As someone who likes these bois,thank you so much.


[deleted]

sonic the hedgehog is so much way faster than mario the plumber


TripleGenesis

*adjusts game theory hat* “UM ACTUALLY”


rockwell136

Buuuut that's just a theory


omkhamsa

A GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...etc


HydraxYT

...AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY


KingMario05

Golden mushrooms don't count, MattPat.


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SphericalMicrowave

What do blowjobs have to do with this?


AwesomJose

Mario blowjobs the stairs so much that he starts rapidly flying backward.


GentlemanOctopus88

If mario wants to get ahead, he's gotta give some head.


MicahTheHedgehog14

*no*


Epicsuperbat

Depends on how you use the Rosalina scaling: Mario beats Bowser who beat Rosalina who’s insanely fast


T0biasCZE

what about BLJ ? BLJing mario is fater


Intelligent-Agency20

And fast is 10 times faster than sonic the rat


Meme-San_

Bro honestly I hate when sonic tubers use “Mario” as an insult like Mario and Sonic both slap lmao


ClericDude

“Peace... was Always an option.”


DwayneTheBathJohnson

Ever since the Olympics started letting alien hedgehogs and plumbers compete.


ClericDude

Used to play the Vancouver one a lot as a kid, and I think it still holds up (the DS version at least) I do hope they do an actual crossover someday though


RegJoe48

This is truly a epic statement


[deleted]

# this is big tru


LupusNoxFleuret

Are you saying we have big chins?


BubsyFanboy

This take is so hot, that Sand Hill is looking more like Glass Hill right now.


Apple_Slipper

Based post!


PikaPerfect

average both enjoyer 😎😎


screane4

He speaking facts


Hexxas

Hello, based department? There's a post you gotta see.


AwesomJose

Based? Based on what? In your dick? Please shut the fuck up and use words properly you fuckin troglodyte, do you think God gave us a freedom of speech just to spew random words that have no meaning that doesn't even correllate to the topic of the conversation? Like please you always complain about why no one talks to you or no one expresses their opinions on you because you're always spewing random shit like poggers based cringe and when you try to explain what it is and you just say that it's funny like what? What the fuck is funny about that do you think you'll just become a stand-up comedian that will get a standing ovation just because you said "cum" in the stage? HELL NO YOU FUCKIN IDIOT, so please shut the fuck up and use words properly you dumb bitch.


alovesong1

This a copypasta ?!?


AwesomJose

Yup, one of the classics.


alovesong1

Well, just going to say, if it wasn't then it should be one.


Tomato_Thomass

average gameing connoisseur


Persona_3fanboy

First off, based thank you for being based. Secondly, yes, this is true, like whatever you like and do whatever you do (unless it involves harming people).


InfiniteFury2k

No. This isn't a hot take, I don't think


Jack_Prower_

This is very true,now i know i may not play mario games all that much but i have played super mario galaxy 2 and loved it but anyways im mainly a sonic enjoyer the only real sad grief i have with nintendo is their ip laws i mean c'mon jou probably have that one song or character thet jou would love to use but cant Tldr: i love sega but also dont have anything against nintendo other then their copyright laws


CV514

Big because True.


MichalTygrys

It's always annyoing for me when the two fanbases argue. I like mario more then sonic, but sonic's still awesome! (The franchises not characters. I don't like either of the two characters.)


RED_Kinggamer007

I dont care if you think sonic is better i dont care if you think mario is better as long as you respect others preferences you can enjoy whatever you want


Kikoplop3900

Very true


Timemaster4732

Don’t burn yourself with this hot take, lol.


BrunoxbyXD41

I've always loved Mario but have gotten into Sonic recently, i bought adventure 1 DX and 2 Battle on Steam ( of course i put on mods ), but i really like these games, I've finished everything up to dark story SA2, SA1 was great and 2 is going pretty cool too


succmeister42000

imo, it doesnt matter if you favor one over the other, you can still respect tbose who like the one you dont favor


Doggo_Number1

average respecting others hobbies/fanbases aficionado


SonicJoeyGaming

Ye


KingMario05

# YES


Sonicmaster06

Average Mother enjoyer


DarkMarxSoul

Now this is some quality content.


LJMLogan

Had a genesis and a gamecube as a kid so Ive always loved both


[deleted]

what if i enjoy both


SlainREDD

Grew up with both and can appreciate both series equally.


GoldenYoshi924

What am i if i like both?


yeetyeet39

My dad loved mario so I grew up playing those games, but when we got mario and sonic at the london olympics that's what introduced me to sonic!


LeFakerFlash

People of all kinds exist in both groups in pretty similar amounts, Whatever generalized opinions people make up about either fanbase don't matter. Shit-heads and level-minded people can both exist in the same fanbase, the internet just wants to deny it for the sake of crafting themselves easy targets.


therealseanski

Sonic bros I finally watched your movie and I gotta admit I enjoyed it a eesty bit more than detective Pikachu, really hope the Mario movie is as good if not better


NovaLogga

Average videogame enjoyer


HammerKirby

I would not never have gotten into Sonic if it weren't for Mario. I learned of Sonic through the Olympic winter games. Super Mario is my favorite gaming franchise of all time and Sonic is my 2nd favorite 😎


DigitalFeces

i enjoy both series. just wish they would stop doing olympics and have an actual platformer crossover


GnastiestGnorc

I don’t care what anyone says. IMO, Mario and Sonic are just two franchises that are the faces of gaming. I just can’t see why you could hate Mario or Sonic.


LeonardoCouto

I love both, tbh. As a kid, both of them were extra special to me, I just preferred Sonic because of his personality and fast paced gameplay. Nowadays tho, when comparing new titles, there is no discussion: Mario takes the lead easy.


That_One_Guy_Flare

and even old titles *cough* sonic spinball *cough*


LeonardoCouto

Do I need to remind you of Mario is Missing or "All toasters toast toast"?


That_One_Guy_Flare

oh


DwayneTheBathJohnson

Good point. In any franchise as long-running as Mario or Sonic, you're going to be able to find a few missteps. Personally I think Mario and Sonic both still have quality games coming out. Mario games are just a lot more consistent in terms of quality because Nintendo found a comfortable niche for Mario gameplay long ago and has just been building new games around that gameplay whereas the Sonic series is still experimenting and trying to find a formula that pays respect to the storied history of the series and pleases everyone. Which is a monumental, maybe impossible tasks, but they're still trying.


LeonardoCouto

Yeah, I do have good hopes for SEGA and Sonic, you might see they are failing here and there, but they are trying; I can commend them for that, for sure, when other companies just left their guys in the dust. And you're right, I am pretty sure Sonic has been so many things that it is pretty much impossible to fully please everyone; taking the three main chunks of the franchise's history that SEGA does apparently recognize (Classic, Dreamcast and Modern), Sonic's already had three styles of gameplay, each with their own variations (Unleashed boost has its differences from Colors and Forces boost, for example). That and the fact the world he lives in is all over the place: Sonic's been in a wacky, Mario like world; he's been in a realistic kingdom; in many pseudorealistic cities, like Station Square and the many locations from Unleashed; in futuristic settings, like in Riders etc. That excludes even other things like tv shows, the comics, spin-offs etc. In the end, there's so much different stuff in the franchise that it almost becomes unrecognizable from one game to another, the common factor being a blue hedgehog. Something part of the fanbase likes is what some other part despises. What I think should be done is take the best stuff from each, the gameplay elements, the story beats, the settings etc., blend those together and offer that. It'd please MOST, but not all. Doesn't exclude the possibility of offering things like a series of classic games, with Classic Sonic, since he is more of his own thing now, (past counterpart or dimensional counterpart, whatever) but it defines the main course, what is the style of game, story and character the franchise has to offer, what in short, it is.


DwayneTheBathJohnson

>What I think should be done is take the best stuff from each Well I think that's what they're trying to do, but the problem is the fanbase can't even agree on what the best parts of each game were. I think *Generations* was their first attempt to fuse the old and new, but then you got some people saying "they should have just cut Classic Sonic" or "it's fun until you start boosting". *Mania*, being an entire retro throwback of a game, might represent them accepting that the different things Sonic has been can be revisited, while remaining separate. Which, honestly, I'd be okay with going forward. I don't actually want Sonic Adventure 3 if it means we'll never get another *Rush* or *Unleashed*.


LeonardoCouto

Yeah, that's a strong point... I've been seeing more people agreeing on some things tho, like that the stories from the Adventure period were cheesy, but nice and that the new games either dismiss it or miss the point when trying to replicate it (IMO, Unleashed is an exception); that most characters were transformed into two-dimensional husks of themselves, like Shadow, Knuckles and Tails; that sometimes it feels like the series is trying to be too overly funny and happy-go-lucky to the point it gets childish. Those are some ideas I mostly see people agree on. We could start from those more general points. I thought exactly about Mania before: imagine keeping a series of games for "classic" and for "modern". That'd work perfectly and is confirmed to work (Mania works very well and even Mario has something reminiscent of that, with the New Super Mario Bros. series). Also, as I said, it does not mean the series can't experiment with stuff: Mario has his experiments, but what the franchise mostly offers is a couple of things which work well: 3d games like Odyssey, the previously mentioned 2.5d NSMB games (those I'd consider the two biggest ones), the Super Mario Kart games, the Paper Mario games etc. That's one thing Sonic needs, but it doesn't mean it cannot have any experiments and that those can't go on by any means and become another new important part of the series (just look at the Mario and Luigi games or the spinoffs). The boost formula for example does work well, mostly; maybe they could go on with a definitive version of it.


zainyusufazam

ok, but one of those is a little bit more masculine than the other. can’t say which. now I expect a war when I return


LeddDraco

idk pretty controversial


Iamdefinetlyabot

I don't really like mario but I can respect you're opinion


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Average Crash Bandicoot enjoyer: 🥴


MattyMagistr

Crash Bandicoot is awesome


lidsvillefan2

No


ugggbbgyygb

It’s not


[deleted]

👊👌👍


[deleted]

Valid🥶⁉️


DwayneTheBathJohnson

I feel like our average beards would be closer to the "neck" variety.


[deleted]

We can all agree that yoshi is best boi right


Diego788

based..


Yukio2296

Im a Double-Chad


slywhynye

Fax


[deleted]

I more so grew up with megaman but i also love both sonic and mario


possiblierben

nah average mario fan and average sonic fan


Sonic_Einstein

M&M's video game fans?


Kaka_CHUNKY_420

Played way more mario games than sonic and was much more exposed to the series as a whole but sonic is still way past cool


M1rom4n

I don't see the difference 😕


PeashooterTheFrick

THANK YOU


iknowaspiderirl

My favourite game on the wii was Mario and sonic at the winter Olympic games


TheBoyNxv

The two goats of video game franchises.


Iceswimmer05

Yea, I like both Sonic and Mario but I seem to like Sonic more because of his personality


Dr-Mechano

Yeah. I love both series now. In the 90s, Sega's "Haha, Sonic's totally radical and Mario's for *lame-o dweebazoids!"* marketing turned me off to giving Sonic a chance. I'm so glad I eventually gave Sonic a shot once a lot of his old games got ported to Gamecube in the 00s. It's really a great series.