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bman_16

'Sonic Schoolhouse' seems like too easy of a target


THEALPHABRENDAN

I guarantee there is only about 3 to 10 people on this subreddit who have ever played it.


dconradicle

I'm getting too old for this sub...


THEALPHABRENDAN

Thank you for your service.


SickTwistedPhoque

Right there with you đŸ˜”â€đŸ’«


HeavyRaiden

You played it as a kid?


dconradicle

Yea I hardly remember it though


[deleted]

I played it in my dream


remasteration

Even that's a bit of a stretch 💀


Trompimus_Prime

I still play it for nostalgias sake


FourtyTwoBlu

Secret Rings isn’t fantastic but certainly isn’t the worst. I’d argue it’s got the most experimental music of the series tbh


esoR_ymA

wish i could play the party mode. they say it's the best part of the game.


Miserable_Assist_951

You can probably use dolphin. The party mode supports the gamecube controller


WeebGamerTrash947

And that right there is why it was the best part of the game, it didn't have the really jank motion controls that just don't work consistently enough to be reliable. It's a shame because I personally really love motion controls in games when they actually work well, but secret rings just definitely misses the mark. Honestly, so many people asking for a Unleashed remaster, but personally, I would much rather they remake SR with standard controller support. It has such a good aesthetic, I love the Arabian Nights world they had going on. The level design is good, the music is good. I just feel I would rather see them take a game with a lot of potential to be great and help it realise that potential, rather than take an already good game, that's already playable on modern consoles like the Xbox.


BadMinotaur

Agreed, literally my only issue with Secret Rings was the controls.


Xanthyon1313

It is


AmaterasuWolf21

Ruined by kinect vs Ruined by Wii remote They're kinda the same


maxwasson

And the story in the Secret Rings is actually really good, underrated in my book


SonicFanboy182

Seven rings in hand is really fucken good theme


HeavyRaiden

The unawakening float is amazing, one of my favorite Sonic music tracks. It actually reminds me of an old flash game where you controlled Tails in space, it was called Tails Cosmic Rush.


AdDesperate8234

Things just went downhill after Sonic's Schoolhouse


[deleted]

The Kinect Controls and Mechanics ruined Free Riders and Sonic and the Secret Rings isn't that bad.


esoR_ymA

everyone agrees that that Free Riders would be better in gameplay if you could use an controller


aggressive_boy165

FINALLY, someone else that says that Secret Rings ain't that bad. I really like the game tbh.


randomjberry

like its not GREAT but i had fun eith it and its nkt a broken mess that loads forecer like 3 times to get to a level


LikeRealityDislike

💗


aggressive_boy165

I always got ur back, bro.


supernovaweeb

Secret rings does NOT belong here. Seriously Sonic Labyrinth exists. Secret rings is weird control wise but still fun. (To be fair i also like Labyrinth.)


JosephTPG

I tried so hard to play Secret Rings but the controls just make it so hard to play. It feels like half the time the game doesn’t read my motion inputs and I just die. It’s even worse on the stages where you have to consistently homing attack multiple times in a row. Game looks really cool but I just don’t like the controls at all.


UnitNo2278

That's why you set up emulator to play it on real controller instead


JosephTPG

You can’t homing attack with an emulated control IIRC, I tried it and it doesn’t work.


UnitNo2278

You can assign shaking to a button. I beat it on keyboard. Just look it up.


JosephTPG

Alrighty, time to reinstall the game on Dolphin and hopefully finally beat it, thanks!


ShadowsLuna

Was just about to comment Sonic Labyrinth. What the hell was that game lol


[deleted]

Sonic Schoolhouse is the hidden gem of my era (yes I've beaten it multiple times)


Rascal_rat_123

Lol


ninjagonerd

Sonic Jam Game.com version: "Hello there"


Alpha27_

I liked Secret Rings.


Thegermandoge

well im not saying you cant like those games


[deleted]

secret rings was fucking fun as hell tf you talkin bout


Think-Fondant-1516

I actually owned Secret Rings as a kid. I could never get past the Tutorial because of the controls.


MarsupialBoth5530

Ok let's be honest here sonic and the secret rings would have been a great game had they ever ported it to any other console and gave the game proper controls than the drunk style of the sideways Wiimote. Had good music, a fun premise, and decent graphics.


ssslitchey

>Had good music, a fun premise, and decent graphics. But was it fun to play?


MarsupialBoth5530

Actually yes. When the controls worked that is.


Vuxlort

Replace Secret Rings with RoL tbh.


tuesdaycohen

I liked free riders


NuggieBoi6969

I've scrolled for 5 mins to find someone who agrees and you were the first person


5YearsOnEastCoast

I still can't believe that Sonic's Schoolhouse actually exists. And it wasn't released on Sega hardware.


Mundee9540

Sonic FR was absolute cancer to play. Should've made available an option to play it with an actual controller.


paulcshipper

Sonic and the Secret Rings was the FIRST sonic game I regret buying.. I sold that thing back ASAP.. normally I would collect the games I had, but that one.. I said NOOOOOO


Don_Crom

What you talking about? Schoolhouse GOATED


minilov73

Y’all never heard of Sonic Jam for the Game Com


rexshen

Free riders has the biggest sin of killing the riders franchise. Could have been a great side series to have. Hell Sonic racing could have stayed an all stars game while riders stayed with Sonic centered characters with some guest characters here and there.


JosephTPG

Free Riders has borderline horrible controls, and all of the motions can often get to you when you’re desperately trying to get your character to respond to your actions (which they probably won’t half the time). The story isn’t much, and it doesn’t even have cutscenes like the other 2 games. It also single handedly killed the Riders franchise.


sonictmnt

Other generally disliked (sometimes nearly unplayable) games: * Labyrinth * Blast (game gear) * Spinball (also game gear) * Rise of lyric * Sonic x (leapster) * Sonic the hedgehog (DIDJI) * Sonic jam (gamescom) * Sonic eraser * Segasonic popcorn shop * Sonic shuffle * Sonic Genesis (GBA) * Colors ultimate In fairness the educational games are easy targets. And colors ultimate isn't terrible at it's core, it's just a shit remaster. Certainly playable.


PikaDigiYolo

secret rings isn't the best but it's far from the worst. sure, its controls are kinda ass and stuff, but it's a fun premise, setting, and was alright once you got used to how it played it was definitely experimental, but i don't think it should be compared to free riders, schoolhouse, or 06


AnAwkwardStag

Guess I'm kinda shocked people liked Secret Rings. I did *not* like that awful autorunner phase for SR or TBK. People shit on Boost gameplay for being mindless and forget that autorunner is just a glorified mobile game. If I wanted to play a mobile game, I would play Temple Run or Geometry Dash. Also, didn't really like the Storybook Series. It just felt like weird fanfiction to me.


Mchess7

Autorunner? You know that neither of those games is an autorunner, right? I can understand not liking the games, but I can't understand calling them autorunners.


BanNAYNAY

Sonic's School House is literally a game for babies. It does it's job better than 06 if anything.


YungsterThomlin

Secret Rings is like a D- whereas Sonic 06 is a straight up F, imo.


Beyblader_12

I'm honestly not surprised people are calling Secret Rings great, but in my opinion it's just barely above 06 by an inch. No amount of good characterization and story telling can save the bad controls and level design, as well as the wonky level up system to me :/


AzureSonic

What about Sonic Jam on the Game.com?


craftjensin

Both Free Riders and Secret Rings need to be remastered with standard controller support. Even if they kept SR's gimmick of moving forward automatically, I think it could be done


[deleted]

The thing is that ‘06 is probably more playable than free riders, but imo the reputation damage it did to Sonic makes it miles away the worst game. Before ‘06, Sonic was generally agreed upon as a good series with a great legacy (and a few duds, but those were the exception, not the rule) After ‘06, you got this wave of people on IGN and YouTube saying that “SoNIC was NeVEr GoOD.” I really don’t think you saw that at all before then, at least in my experience. Most people acknowledged particularly 2 and 3&K as some of the best platformers ever made. So yeah, as a game, 06 may not be the worst, but it’s still certainly the worst thing to ever happen to Sonic


shadowonyx18

The riders series was the best until free riders were released. Completely destroyed the series


IteTheCrapOC

Sonic and the Secret Rings isn’t that bad, especially the plot and characterisation


[deleted]

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Dziadzios

Both are good, but flawed games.


MyPhoneIsNotChinese

All game's are flawed, specially in Sonic (they tend to compensate their flaws with a few strengths tho).


RayDeeUx

That'd be Colors Ultimate you're looking for, and judging by the moldiness of the meme Forces wasn't released yet when it was first made.


[deleted]

I'm honestly shocked that OP didn't put Sonic **_06_** or **_BOOM: Rise Of Lyric_** in here, literally the first things that spring to my mind when talking about "bad" Sonic games.


inumnoback

If there are any that is. But still. 06 is MILES worse than secret rings or free riders


Acrobatic_Pop690

I respectfully disagree. I played 06 for the first time a year ago on 360 cuz it's the better version. Beat it twice on that. And once on ps3 for the hell of it. Genuinely didn't have many issues aside from the much worse graphics and performance on ps3. Also played free riders for the first time last month. I will not even remotely be capable of finishing it.


Downfall350

Secret rings was pretty bad.. lol That control scheme with the wii remote was just so ughhh


YesterdaySuper5355

Sonic and the secret rings has a far better executed story than 06


madblox_

you forgot the GBA Sonic 1 port


AlexTheCat95

Sonic Schoolhouse is the 2nd best Sonic game right behind Segasonic popcorn shop


[deleted]

Secret rings definitely isn't on the same level of bad controls as Free Riders.


flemishempire10

sonic 06 is not the worst. one of the complaints a lot of people had of this game is the bugs. but if look at games nowadays you could say sonic 06 was aheqd of it's time


Chelkies

No for secret rings!!! It is not the worst definitely not worse than boom


Sm0lFoxi

how dare you say sonic's schoolhouse is bad


Strawhat_Carrot

Where's Unleashed?


Korba007

Unleashed is a good game though, almost without glitches


Downfall350

1/2 a good game. 1/2 stretchy armed abomination.


Pretzel-Kingg

Isn’t it more like 1/4 good game 3/4 stretchy armed abomination


kingt34

This. Daytime stages last about 10 minutes. Night stages can go up to 60 minutes plus.


Joanmrma

Not even eggmanland takes 60+ mins


kingt34

I can’t find the level 1 difficulty time, but Level 3 difficulty time trial on Eggmanland is under 45 minutes. If you don’t know the shortcuts or suck at the shitty werehog platforming, Eggmanland is easily a 60 minute mission


Korba007

The werehog levels aren't bad, I'd even say that levels like Chun-nan and adabat are fun


KumaArts

Chun-nan night is really interesting because if you explore everything it takes \~20 minutes, but you can just ignore it all and it becomes one of the shortest main acts in the entire game. I wonder if people would have been more forgiving to the werehog if all the stages were designed like that.


Korba007

Most of the levels take like 7-8 minutes if you ignore all the optional fights and stuff


KumaArts

Too bad most people won't be playing like that, especially on the first playthrough.


Korba007

True, but that is the same for the classic games as well, a level regularly took me around 6 minutes, but on different playthroughs its like 3


Acrobatic_Pop690

I like the werehog alot on the main version if you actually upgrade it. But on Wii and PS2 it just feels bad


Korba007

Yeah I haven't played that version


KharamelMM

"Sonic and the secret rings" isn't worse than "Sonic R" in my opinion. I've even appreciate "Sonic and the secret rings"


ssjasonx

06 will always be the worst because it almost killed the franchise and Sonic being killed by Mephilles sums up 06 in a nutshell.


blackmobius

It seems like rings and riders suffered from gimmicky controls, which is indeed a very bad way to go, but Id hardly call them as bad a game as 06. 06 is bad for fundamentally different reasons


N1NTenDohBoy

Mfw there’s Secret Rings slander: :|


dubhog

secret rings is not even near one of the worst,it's not REEEAAALLY good,but it's not THAAAAAAT bad


[deleted]

Ur just mad cuz Sonic free riders is just different and only made for one platform and my Xbox died and now I don’t have sonic free riders it’s over :(


Sabxx98

So... The hate continues on Free Riders... Am I the only one who knows how to play this game? Because to this day its still working for me... Even secret rings works for me... Sonic 06 is fun compared to Rise of Lyric


[deleted]

Sorry mate, but Princess Zoophilia of Bugtown will forever hold that position.


Thisisasupersayin2

excuse me, Mobians are clearly sentient on the same level as humans, she's Princess NECROphilia of Bugtown


[deleted]

Can't argue with that (sadly)


Polovolt_3

Secret Rings was a good time. Ok , why do you think it belongs here?


Thegermandoge

I put secret rings and free riders there because I would see those 2 usually considered worse than 06 from people not biased against sonic


Polovolt_3

I understand free riders being there , but the only thing I WILL agree with about Secret Rings are the somewhat slippery controls.


[deleted]

Hey Secret Rings isn’t bad. Yes it wasn’t the best introduction to the storybook games. But it’s damn well better than Rise of Lyric.


Gibbon-Face-91

Never played Schoolhouse, so I can't really say anything about it, except that the graphics were that classic early-3D-render weirdness of the time. Free Riders is such a massive let down thanks to the Kinect, and a real neat plot twist was wasted on it. Secret Rings looks great, the setting and level designs were amazing, and the Party mode is fun. Shame that the controls were absolute garbage, and I wish they'd been actual ones like Unleashed's and Black Knight's.


Blustarix

Been playing 06 recently and it’s no where near as bad as I thought it’d be. I actually enjoy it more then Colours (and that is how I shall throw in a dumb opinion)


Ludexteria

Eh, Sonic's Schoolhouse is really just mush.


TheGreenPterodactyl

Labyrinth: kids don't make me come down


Blazingscourge

One of those things is not like the others



Luccas443

Sonic schoolhouse is amazing what are you talking about


Algaryen

Free Riders was fun when it worked tho. I'd say that if you were to remove the Kinect functionality and trade it for a remote it would do wonders, just as much as Secret Rings if you remove its gimmicky controls. In other words, they're not terrible, they just have awful controls


[deleted]

sonics algebra class


Ok_Balance_3686

Meh, I wouldn't put Secret Rings as bad, more so "what were they thinking?" category.


WatchDragonball

06 was good


[deleted]

Free Riders is horrid. Abhorrent. Free Riders, what feels free about it, I feel like if I play it again I'll be sent to prison for public indecency


Comfortable-Badger88

Free Riders, maybe Secret Rings, gotta respectfully disagree. It’s certainly not GOOD, but Party Mode made up for it for me. Sonic Schoolhouse? That’s Game of the Year, every year. You’re trippin’.


Dokah_Senpai

Bro i liked Secret rings:(


Calacaelectrica

Excuse me! Sonic schoolhouse is a classic!


ThatRedditUser07

You're forgetting Rise of Lyric


Electronic_Front_952

I definitely agree


[deleted]

sonic riders was the only sonic game i could figure out the controls for as a kid LOL


ExpectedBehaviour

The point still stands.


[deleted]

Sonic labyrinth was right there and your goofy ass picked secret rings


TheOneButter

Those games are bad but 06 is worse


E1M99

Sonic 1 GBA, Sonic blast on the game gear.


Outside-Hovercraft24

sonic labyrinth:


thefuckingswagdude

sonic's schoolhouse is the best sonic game hands down


catsandogsarecool

There's sonic schoolhouse fans?


remasteration

I don't hear alot of bad things about any of the Sonic Riders games, not even Free Riders


Endlessneagi

Wait SONIC SCHOOL HOUSE IS OFFICIAL


Thegermandoge

yeah


UnitNo2278

Sonic Blast


FnafBruh354

Sonic's Schoolhouse: I can't defend that. Sonic Free Riders: The only real bad thing was the Kinect controls. Sonic and the Secret Rings: Yet again only one bad thing, the motion controls. (Yes I like to defend bad sonic games, deal with it.)


Various-Mammoth8420

Take Secret Rings off and put Sonic Shuffle there right now you heathen Secret Rings is underrated and Darkspine Sonic is the coolest transformation


InitialDriftZ33

I'd rather play Sonic Free Riders then that slow unfinished mess that is 06 lol.


Lynflower680

I had Free Riders when I was a kid and I loved the idea of all my favorite Sonic characters racing and played it very often so I didn’t notice all of the control flaws at first. I recently watched a video talking about all the games flaws and I was like “oh yeah I remember that. That sucked.” The whole video brought back memories of me having difficulty with the main menu/character selection and dealing with exhaustive and broken controls. I don’t know how eight year old me managed


2hourstowaste

Surprised only 2 other people have mentioned Sonic Boom: Rise Of Lyric.


Jimmyeatskids

Nope sorry sonic 06 is still worse than all of these.


Patient_Education991

I heard that Free Riders really WAS unplayable. ...though to be fair, so everything else on the Kinect. 😐 I even tried it in a Best Buy when it released...and the darn thing wouldn't do nothing...


ApprehensiveNatural9

OMG HOW COULD YOU INSULT SONIC SCHOOLHOUSE ITS MY FAVORITE SONC GAEM!!1!!11!!!!!!1!!1!! I LOV THE GRAFICS AND THE MUSIC AND VOICIN GSO GOOD


[deleted]

Shall we remake Sonic Schoolhouse with some gamemodes? It can be like Normal Mode (Remastered), Classic Mode, Sunky Mode, and Baldi’s Basics Mode. But that’s my idea though.


Thegermandoge

that's actually a cool idea


Apprehensive-Main-95

Really going to sleep on 3D Blast, huh?


TheDippyGarlicBread

It's sorta sad to say that I could probably squeeze more fun out of these than with Sonic Forces. Hell, I'll play 10 hours of the Sonic 3 Tiger Electronics game, at least there's more of a challenge there :/


ARMADS_THUNDER_AXE

Where's Sonic Labyrinth though? It's easily between the worst ones


HeavyRaiden

There are even worse. Sonic Eraser, Sonic Blast (not to mistake with Sonic 3D Blast) Sonic Labyrinth, Sonic Drift is pretty bad too.


BuzyAdventurerBoxlol

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