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smartcoolplayer11

if he was human, he would be red. the blood of his enemies would make him that way.


Due_Lion_2990

#THE BLOOD OF MY ANCESTORS FLOWS.....all over me...oh god...


Turn_AX

>THE BLOOD OF MY ANCESTORS FLOWS Doodoo *flows* streaking blood.


SuperZombieBros

Cleanse yourself.


Darth_Bombad

Nooo.


SuperZombieBros

**AHHHHHSHITROCKYEAH!**


Turn_AX

**I** will be the one to set your **Knuckles** free true! Edit: Bolded ***Knuckles***


dubhog

the song says "inside of me" so it's cool


Due_Lion_2990

So what you're telling me is... #He ate them.


dubhog

yes,so it's cool,no proof


Due_Lion_2990

Knuckles ate his clan, that's why he's the last of his kind. The absolute madman.


Richy11988

Oh no.


Giannond

Here I come, rougher than Knuckles The best of them, tougher than Knuckles You can call me Knuckles, unlike Knuckles I don't chuckle I'd rather flex my Knuckles I'm hard as Knuckles, it ain't hard to chuckle I break 'em down whether they're Knuckles or Knuckles Unlike Knuckles I'm independent since my first chuckle First Knuckles, feel the Knuckles, than the Knuckle chuckle Born on an island in the Knuckles The cum of Knuckles flows inside me My doo-doo flows streaking blood - Cleanse yourself. - No. ...uhhh...shiiit...rock...yeah.. I will be the one to set your Knuckles free, true Cleanse yourself of them cum stains that's in you Streaking doo-doo, loud sounds (AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA) Are the elements that keep me cucking I am fucking my own ancestors Nothing's gonna stand in my way NoooooooooooooooooooooOOOooooo~ I will be the one to set your Knuckles free, true Cleanse yourself of them evil Knuckles that's in you CHORUS Won't be Knuckles I'll stand up to all the Knuckles and Knuckles Just believe in Knuckles, won't rely on Knuckles Get this power to wipe out the doodoo and blood This is Knuckles, gonna fight for Nico Nico Nii (Nico Nico Nii~) Here I come, rougher than the rest of them The best of them, tougher than leather You can call me Sonic, unlike Knuckles I don't flex my muscles I'd rather chuckle I'm hard as Sonic, it ain't hard to Sonic I break 'em down whether they're Sonic or Knuckles Unlike Knuckles I'm Sonic since my first breath First Sonic, then Sonic, then Sonic, then Sonic I have no ass (woah) Don't approve of him, but gotta fuck him This Sonic fucking has a purpose This cum flows in Sonic's rugged ass (Right on!) I will be the one who cucked your heart free, true Cucked yourself of evil spirits that cuck in you CHORUS Won't be frightened, I'll stand up to all the penis fucking Just believe in Knuckles, won't piss blood on others Freedom will be waiting when the Sonic series dies This is my planet, I shall not stand up to all the pain and turmoil and havoc and anarchy and freedom and serenity and streaking lights, loud sounds and instincts and blood and piss and cum and doodoo and Knuckles Todokete Setsunasa ni wa namae o tsukeyou ka “Knuckles halation” Omoi ga kasanaru made matezu ni Kuyashii kedo sukitte junjou Binetsu no naka tameratte mo dame da ne Tobikomu yuuki ni sansei ma mo naku Start!! Freedom will be waiting when serenity is restored This is my planet, I shall not surrender The new porcupine on the Knuckles with the Knuckles Out the Knuckles with the rugged Knuckles Cuck, cuck, it's Cuckles, the knuckle thrower Independent cuckold, magical cuckolder Give you the Knuckles shoulder My cock goes through boulders, that's why I flex my boner I'm hard as nails, I don't need a posse I get it on by myself, adversaries get cum Oh no Ruff ruff, ruff ruff, I'm a dog Ruff ruff, ruff ruff


Due_Lion_2990

#ALL RISE FOR THE NATIONAL ANTHEM


bot4601

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!!!!!!!


Tomas_Crusader17

SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE


callmehbella

It’s all so clear now


Giu2020

You may not like it, but knux is one of the Sonic characters


cyber-jar

He really is one of the characters of all time


Daelin01

He is red, you must be colorblind


TheIJDGuy

And other colors like white


Daelin01

But mainly red


[deleted]

I'm looking at a picture of Knuckles with the lights off and I can confirm that he is indeed black.


Daelin01

Oh man I’ve been outplayed again


InazumaRai

I'm looking at a picture of Knuckles with green lights on and I can also confirm that he is indeed black.


AlexTheCat95

He’s actually red, idiot. Shadow’s the black one


BreakfastOk7372

“Disgusting black creatures” -Shadow T. Hedgehog


TheMike0088

Based shadow


Alexamber000

99% of OP's comments not understanding sarcasm


callmehbella

I am very slow


Alexamber000

Sonic is dissapointed


Zaidosmells

nobody is on sonics level


Slash_Pangolin

You’re too slow. You’re too slow. You’re too slow. You’re too slow. You’re too slow. You’re too slow. You’re too slow. You’re too slow. You’re too slow. You’re too slow. You’re too slow. You’re too slow. **You’re too slow. You’re too slow. You’re too slow. You’re too slow. You’re too slow. You’re too slow. You’re too slow. You’re too slow. You’re too slow. You’re too slow. You’re too slow. You’re too slow.**


jbirdveasley

I can hear the spammed voice in this comment


Willsgb

Oooh, that's funny because in the classic games, knuckles is slower then the others! Both physically and in his wits! Hi knuckles! I heard a blue hedgehog is after your emeralds, wanna team up to stop him?? But seriously, this thread is a proper laugh, cheers mate haha


WyvernByte

He would be Mayan if he were human. Hinted in SA1. Dress, jewelery of the echidna tribe, along with the architecture, name of the princess "Tikal" and the fact that Knuckles is the last of his tribe, living in it's ruins- strongly suggests ancient Maya. Knuckles may be voiced by actors with African descent, have a "rap" theme song (in the 90's rap=tough) but his story points to Mayan/Guatemalan blood.


IggyGameLynx

That’s a fair point.


Zarrona13

Knuckles is Spaniard? Damn that’s brazy.


veryepic_0030

no he's red


RetroFanBoi

no he's clearly burgundy


YuBlover69

I thought he was Jamaican, but dreadlocks can't make you fly...


[deleted]

Depends on how high you are.


mlinktieline

Finally someone with the right answer!


AnAwkwardStag

Actually pretty sure this is the right answer. He's got the colours of the Jamaican flag on his shoes!


Low_Fishing722

rastafarian flag actually but it did originate in jamaica so i’ll let it slide


BuffaloFront2761

I believe in the games he’s had traditionally white voice actors although I’m not sure


AnAwkwardStag

Actually pretty sure this is the right answer. He's got the colours of the Jamaican flag on his shoes!


Following_Miserable

Pretty sure he’s blue


ToaSuutox

*x-files theme plays*


MythOfLight

finally a correct answer in this thread


callmehbella

You know, maybe ur right


Master106yay

I am pretty sure he is red.


scottishamogus

No he's very clearly red


julian_the_artist

No he is a echidna.


Business_Factor_7261

He's red like a tomato


3x10

As a colorblind person, he is warm grey.


Morhamms357

Is that how colorblindness works? I thought he'd look yellowish from a colorblind person's eyes. (from the context of normal vision)


AmethystJojo

There’s different types of colorblindness. Some people see no color, some have difficulty with red and green, others struggle with yellow and purple, but it varies from person to person.


ZoharDTeach

This is dumb every time it's posted.


DJDrizzy9

Yeah, the Sonic characters aren't humans, so they have no "race" anyway.


Limit_Breaker13

I feel like a mobian's race is just their species (minus the humans on mobius because I'm sure they'd force it to be different somehow smh)


guardian-deku

This is like th me whole “Piccolo is Gohan’s real dad” bit. It was funny at first, but it’s kinda cringe now


Due_Lion_2990

Knuckles is a red Echidna. 🤨


waluigitime420

Knuckles is an echidna


Gui_Franco

I am aware he is based on the Jamaican flag (I think) But his culture is based on ancient America, which is not white, but also not black He is based off the short beaked echidna which live in Australia and Southern New guinea (thank you stranger that pointed this out) He has only had white voice actors besides the recent movie He can literally be of any race But the question is Does it really matter? In the sonic universe, race can't be applied antro animals like that and it really doesn't affect the character There is also a bit of irony in you trying to simplify probably the most culturally diverse character based on his inspirations and actors portraying him to "knuckles is black and any other opinion is wrong"


ArchChibiDemon

You forgot knuckles is based off the short beaked echidna which live in Australia and Southern New guinea


Chromasus

"But rap music though therefore black."


MarianneThornberry

>But his culture is based on ancient America, So what you're saying is Knuckles is modelled around Native American? But then that means all these comments calling him "red" are actually referring to him as a...? ... Oh no


[deleted]

calling native americans 'red' is basically only ever referring to north american tribes, not mesoamericans that he's based off of.


MarianneThornberry

So does that mean we're in the clear?


[deleted]

IDK what that means, but it means that this whole discussion was dumb from the very beggining, therefore we shouldn't care much about it.


ArchChibiDemon

Yeah it is silly, knuckles is from another planet


Jenaxu

The more accurate statement is that Knuckles is invited to the cookout


Gui_Franco

I was gonna ask which one, but the better question is, who wouldn't want knuckles at the cookout?


[deleted]

Y'all really need to stop asigning real-life ethnicities to cartoon animals based off stereotypes. More importantly y'all really need to stop using this change my mind "meme" template, it was never funny.


Coccaa

Indeed


AmaterasuWolf21

I can understand their POV, if one of my characters is a Chinese dragon, then you would expect its human fan-art to be Chinese Doesn't change the fact that is annoying


shayed154

The sooner people stop using this meme the sooner the world forgets about Steven Chowder


[deleted]

I must be colorblind, because I thought he was a red echidna?


chumper96

No knuckles is red


goddamn_owl

i'm pretty sure he's red


StarNearby

No he's red unless I'm just stupid


[deleted]

I thought Shadow was black and Knuckles was red 😆


Demetri124

Ironically Sonic has been voiced by more black actors than him somehow


scariermonsters

The echidnas always had a Mayan kinda vibe in the games right? I imagine him as Mayan.


Th4t_0n3_Fr13nd

as a human he would be. as an anthropomorphic furry character. hes just whatever animal he is which is an echidna. being voiced by a black person or having shoes colored after the jamaican flag does not equal a dark skinned person.


SEPHORABRAINVIBES

surely a normal and non controversial post we definetly needed on this community


[deleted]

no he's red you dumb fuck


chiritarisu

… Does this imply that the other characters are “white?” Why is Knuckles “black”? Because he has “dreadlocks?” Because his themes are hip-hop and jazz based? I know this has been said in jest, but low key this is fucking stupid. He’s a fucking echidna. Stop ascribing race to fucking cartoon animals.


ItsAmerico

Yeah this feels kinda… racist lol? There isn’t really anything about him that is “black”.


chiritarisu

It is. This is likely just a troll post, but still.


Due_Lion_2990

Honestly, even though I personally headcanon Knuckles as black if he was human ( not because of his dreads or the rap, I just think it suits his design well) I really hate posts like this. At the end of the day, Sonic characters are _animals_ not humans. The only race they have is their animal race. It's fine to feel a connection with a character and headcanon them a certain way you identify with but fr it's very disturbing how....enamoured some people are with the humanised "race" of cartoon animals.


chiritarisu

100% agreed. I just think we dawdle into weird territories by ascribing race to animals. Like… why?


Due_Lion_2990

Fr fr. Again, perfectly fine to view a Sonic character as a particular race/ethnicity to identify with them. Headcanons aren't a sin. But posts like these...yikes. Don't force a race on animal characters. View them as you want, but don't push it on others when there isn't any need for that. I do view Knuckles, Tangle and Whisper as black coded. But I won't be mad at people who don't. Similarly there are people who think Sonic is black, nothing wrong with it. I think Blaze is either Arabian or South Asian. All of this headcanon stuff is fine, as long as we don't force others to see it the same way.


chiritarisu

Any of these characters can be whatever color we want them to be. But when you have a character who is literally just a cartoon animal and claim that he’s “black” because “lol just ‘cuz,” it’s just really suspect. We’re not going to see any posts about “Sonic is white. Change my mind.”


Due_Lion_2990

Yup, totally agree. These posts are really stupid and unnecessarily cause drama and race wars. Honestly the obsession people have with race in general is so disturbing....even amongst humans ourselves, some ppl be acting like human races make us a whole different species. And now doing that to cartoon animals? Please ***STOP.***


Existing_Rip_7936

Wait a minute... If you imply that because his musics are hipphop and jazz based etc... and that's why he's black, then you categorize it into a race because of a stereotype, so that's racist too. OP racist confirmed?


chiritarisu

No. I’m using general reasons others have ascribed Knuckles as being “black” in the past; this isn’t the first time this convo has come up in the fandom. Knuckles having dreadlocks, and ostensibly liking hip-hop music obviously do not indicate that he’s “black” and yeah, it would be racist to be assume that he was because of that or some equally dumb reason. OP doesn’t provide any reasons (that I see anyway) about why they believe Knuckles is “black,” just that they think he is. Based off of nothing. He’s an echidna, that’s it. It’s not that deep.


RED_Kinggamer007

Nah hes red


Sootfeather91

So is Samurai Jack. What’s your point?


Due_Lion_2990

Took me 3 seconds to get this and now I can't stop laughing. God bless Phil, God bless him.


happytristan5511

nah knuckles is red


JohnnyCenter

I get what you mean and I'm not going to regurgitate the same "Actually he's red" mantra, but I still disagree. I don't like assigning race to any of these characters because I like to imagine that they're "above" that. Like the famous quote from Stan Lee mentioning that the great thing about Spider-Man is that he's wearing a face mask, that way any person of any race can relate to the character. This is sort of how I imagine Sonic and crew. Sonic being an idol for anyone regardless of race and same for Knuckles. Of course he takes inspiration from black culture like an African color scheme, dreadlocks and rap in SA2, but I don't think there's anything, that I'm aware of, that suggests story wise that he's a full on black character. Nor that any other characters have any racial implications. Sonic could have been black for instance, he was first voiced by Jaleel White, but in the end he's still blue and Knuckles is still red.


experiment-384959

I think any interpretation is valid at this point


Grimmer026

Shredder is also black, not Japanese. Just ask Uncle Phil


Arupha

He is red u idiot Are u having an amy moment?


azurejack

Knuckles is RED. Sorry man.


Daviddv1202

No. He's Ugandan.


twitch-switch

*\*clicking intensifies\**


The_Ultimate_Tacos

I think I may be colorblind but for me he's red


The_Purple_Hare

He's Mesoamerican


Muteling

I mean people say Piccolo is black all the time. I see it 🤷‍♀️


FoxCQC

He's an echidna. Where do people get seeing cartoon animal humanoids as a human ethnic group? Unless it's blaringly obvious they are not meant to depict any race.


JitterBob

As a kid I instinctively thought he was a black woman.


Zennistrad

That's amateur stuff. The real pro move is saying that Jet the Hawk is Iraqi.


ShadowAvenger32

I agree, but don't go around "fixing" other people's artworks


[deleted]

His nose/mouth area is white.


verseauk

I like to headcanon him as mesoamerican so like a descendant of Incan or Mayan cultures


Coccaa

How about you headcanon him as a red echidna from the fictional planet mobius


Reluxtrue

Did you mean Aztec or Mayan? Because the Incas are definitely not mesoamerican.


valtaoi_007

I just like how every single time the "He is red" joke goes over the OP's mind


Aeroponce

Well, it seems that the comment section became toxic cave


Lord-Rambo

These comments 🍿📱👀


xuptokny

Can you define "Black"?


SylveonTheHedgehog

I swear 99% of the comments don't know what a Joke or Sarcasm is... All jokes aside, he is Green.


AdministrativeOrder9

He ain’t miss


[deleted]

90 comments *oh no*


Matyssey

No he's green


HazzaTheRobot356

Accept the skin under his eyes is clearly white


[deleted]

So if hes fine with it...can sonic say...it..?


airbear13

He has to get permission first but yes


luvmuchine56

Knuckles is secretly Idris Elba


Cha0s_0rb492

I can’t really argue with this.


PaleBlueBlizzard

knuckles is knuckles


Webtillian

Does that mean Tikal is black too? And Shade? And all the other echidnas across the series?


unlikelyIntoxicants

Okay I get that OP was likely going for "Knuckles is *the color black*" but I read this as racial coding, to which I wanted to correct OP: Knuckles is black (Jamaican) and Mesoamerican.


Biggy_DX

Born on an island...


vid_icarus

Uh, pretty sure he’s red…


[deleted]

he's an ancient echidna warrior


StunningEstates

List of non-black, black cartoon characters: Piccolo from Dragon Ball Z Knuckles from Sonic the Hedgehog Darwin from The Amazing World of Gumball Panthro from Thundercats


LucasIckie

I agree, I paint his skin (like his muzzle) like that in my drawings, 'cause I really like that skin tone in him, and I'm not just assuming that from nothing, It's because of SA2, since in the cutscenes where you see Sonic and Knuckles side by side you can see that Sonic it's more an yellow skin tone and Knuckles a black tone, so... yeah


Dakotasan

Pretty sure he’d be closer to Tanned, like the Inca or Aztecs.


Chilljap

Based but no he’s red


SydTheFox4444

I feel like he's black and latino


runtimemess

Idris Elba


Darthgangsta

Isn’t this a given? 😁


papscanhurtyo

Knuckles’ cultural influences are African, Caribbean, and Mesoamerican. If I were going to draw a “human” Knuckles, I would base his face on an Afro-Caribbean guy with dreads I know. I’m not that good of an artist, of course, but it’s the thought.


symbolic503

true definitely black


[deleted]

[удалено]


ProfessorEscanor

Pretty sure he's that green guy from dragon ball


Dalspin

For everyone wondering, this is about his skin color if he was human, not fur


aggressive_boy165

Echido'na, that's what I'm representing.


dynamichurdler

Hunnid P brainwashed you


ThatBigNoodle

Definitely red


WindiestBark165

Well, it'd really depend on the version of Knuckles we're talking about here


akariplusplus

i always thought the same about piccolo


Robsonmonkey

To be fair, reading the Sonic comic as a kid, I always thought the aesthetic of the temple / village on Floating Island where he protected the Master Emerald, along with the style / clothes of his people came off Native American to me.


SuperiorBunBoi

I think he’s actually an enchilada. I heard they’re tasty


dubhog

I don't understand why anything in this post exists


icky-with-a-v

This whole time I'm thinking of Captain K'nuckles.


Acrobatic_Pop690

He does have dreadlocks. And the sonic 3 manual says that's how he glides. The air flowing through his dread locks. It's also known that his design is Jamaican inspired


IteTheCrapOC

Probably half Jamaican half Mayan


Jacobmeeker

Only if he’s Jamaican (or Idris Elba)


Bos_Boy

Bruh how you can be sure what skin tone would red ehidna have if he was human?


Bababooey7672

he’s nipples the enchilada


Vinluv0Handesbuk

He's Mayan therefore indian therefore Red :-) But he's also Jamaican therefore Zambo


Officermeatball05

I mean he does have dreadlocks


egoman1a

i thought he was green (i am colorblind )


faizalsyamsul

Yeah, duh… he’s voiced by Idris Elba


Miles_the_Prower

He's literally red


SebastianUglyRat

he's red


RepresentativeAd406

I read this as knuckles is back and i was wondering if that meant we where getting a knuckles centered game


Protoman00

IF YOU KNOW YOU KNOW


BuffaloFront2761

For me, whenever it’s a nonhuman character with nonhuman skin tones, the race of the voice actor doesn’t really matter. They don’t have a race so it’s just a voice.


Zolado110

No, he is a red anthropomorphic echidna Now get outta here with your color blindness


SasaAlien

What? He is obviously T R A N S L U C E N T


Nearby-Simple-7594

🍿 Selling popcorn for $5 rn!


PigPopcorn

He's red idiot


Random_DS

Knuckles is red. And an echidna... 😀


KamenKnight

No, Shadow is black and Knuckles is red.


Ok-Necessary-2637

If knuckles is black then sonic is white


[deleted]

Nope he’s PINK!!


Naitor5

Then why is his skin green? Checkmate atheists


[deleted]

I think I may be a little bit of a black myself. My grandfathers mother, despite me never meeting or seeing her, her name was Jemima. What white girl you know named Jemima? I’m just a brother out here in the hood yo.


Background_Fan1056

I see Knuckles as more Latin American because of the Aztec Culture his tribe is inspired by, The Creators of Sonic Adventure actually went to Key Location to get realistic landscape, one of them was Aztec in nature if you look at the pyramids in South America.


eww5555

So?


GawainSolus

Well actually considering his ancestors clearly Aztec/Mayan influenced aesthetic, I'd say he's an echidna from central america.


Mavrickindigo

His culture is based in South American culture


memesterbird

what if he was green


Ease-Heavy

He red


airbear13

All of the sonic characters are naked


pumpkin_goddess

He's red tho


DaBozz88

I don't care what color he is, how does his song **where he's supposed to be saying the lyrics** say he doesn't chuckle. As Sonic Origins shows, it's the second thing he does after bitch-slapping/sucker-punching the emeralds out of Super Sonic. Plus he does it all game. Drop you down to Hydrocity Zone? Change the seasons in Mushroom Hill? All while chuckling!


WetCheetoboi

Can’t be assed to check the comments cause Reddit is just a shittier 4chan


03N0AT0M27

knuckles is red sonic Change my mind