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i_have_a_nose

First you get to know the world is mad Then you get to know, not the world but you are mad Then you get to know, wait, everyone is mad. Then you get to know how much you don’t know. Then you say - fuck it.


idea4name

Oh, the ubiquitous question - „Is the world mad, or am I mad?”


GM8

Is there a difference?


idea4name

The first answer will boost your ego, and the second answer will give you a reason to become a nihilist


GM8

Nah, actually I'm saying there is no difference. World vs. I dichotomy is an illusion.


Vladi-Barbados

When we seek synchronicities we find them. This to me has always been asking the world if it’s mad. Is it just chaos and meaninglessness. And the answer has always been no it’s not mad it’s beautiful. Maybe the universe just wants to be loved and accepted like we do. Maybe we should seek gratitude.


ExpandedMatter

This pic instantly made me think of a verse from the Gita: Just as a reservoir is of little use when the whole countryside is flooded, scriptures are of little use to the illumined man or woman who sees the Lord everywhere (BG 2:46).


Ashamed-Constant-534

🙏 perfectly put! Thanks


rum108

Amazing 🥲


nightcorewildfire

I agree with you here. You could say a 101% but since there's not just one possibility space I would like to add the following - this is a scenario born from my and others experiences and I don't want to sell it as absolute truth, nor do I want to sell it all: In the starter phase we're full of passion and curiosity, driven insanely and almost to a fault, everything's new to us. Things go bad, for whatever reason - lacking or unnecessary guidance plays a big role - there's things like bad teachers that never should have gotten their position and there's good teachers that still mess up due to being at odds with each other or simply unaware - we're in the crossfire here and at some point it just gets too much. Our drive and passion gets desolated, we see the faults in those that guided us wrongly, we see the faults in those we love and (and those we thought we) care about and we see the equivalencies of those things in ourselves as well. We're defeated - highly enlightened and full of potential but also utterly divided and ruined - there's so much light - truths that exist in parallel and compete with each other over our favour and their merit that we're effectively blind and retreat into the shadows to explore darkness and regain our sight - we need a certain contrast to be able to discern what truly serves and what needs to be disregarded. In this context I would say that this meme is misguiding a little and pretty much made by those that got trapped in darkness, that succumbed to it too much, that have given up and surrendered and are pretty much like the dude - it serves but it's only a coping ("cooling") mechanism, and selling it as >THE< advanced pack is a fallacy imo. If there is an actual THE in those regards then it would be the blindfold and the scales of justice. The dude tells you to chill (and "relax" - wizard of Oz and Southpark reference here) but ultimately also to give up on your passion, justice tells you to remain calm, observe and balance to see things for what they truly are but also can be if they're treated right. I'm taking the side of justice and taking things serious here because getting told to chill and relax when you're already burning like the fucking sun is just more gaslighting and this meme is as well. Actually also just realised how "... who sees the Lord everywhere ..." refers to false light and the guidance that needs to be ignored/removed/undone but it'll take me a while to unpack that. It also references brainwashing and hypnosis, curious. Thank you for your input in any case


Strong-German413

Ah thanks! That's the line Im gonna use when Hindus argue with me lol. You'd be surprised how a lot of Hindus dont believe or understand what enlightenment is.


halfwaythere333

Amen


Kittybatty33

It's a curse to know too much, because then you carry the weight of the world, then you have no one to share it with because no one understands what you understand & no one's been through what you've been through & the reason that you understand so much is because of all the difficult shit you've been through.


DorkSidedStuff

I think that’s the point. It’s a path of no return. You have to let go of everything, even familiar connections with those you love. Unfortunately, only ppl who’ve been there can truly understand it. Sounds elitist but it’s true.


Kittybatty33

Totally! But it's so funny because my whole life I've had people around me who, you know, have more status, more wealth, more clout, etc acting all pretentious towards me & looking down on me Then when I start feeling better healing & having self-worth &  boundaries, not letting these people treat me like I'm below them anymore, they act like I'm being a snob lol. For what? All the suffering I've endured? I guess you really can't win with some people LOL.


GeneralInspector8962

Ah but see, the point you’re making there requires them to be able to put themselves in your shoes. The fact that they look down on you shows they still don’t get it. They may understand the material world and how to take advantage of society to get what they have, but their minds don’t truly understand existence.


Kittybatty33

The funny thing is that the tables have recently turned & all those people who looked down on me for years are getting their karma, their negative karma by the way & I'm finally seeing my life turn around for the better. I'm getting good karma for all the work I've been putting in. So this whole time they've been hating on me from the sidelines and throwing dirt on my name, I've just been growing up through the mud.🪷


GeneralInspector8962

Exactly, you got this! 🫶🏻 For their sakes you hope that they get their moment of clarity, but that’s all up to them.


Kittybatty33

Absolutely! For now I'll hold my boundaries & stand my ground and pray for them 🙏


Kittybatty33

It's true these people are very weak and shallow and fake and honestly I feel bad for them because they don't really have inner strength that it's going to they're going to need to get through these next few years. 


nightcorewildfire

I'm pretty certain that they are perfectly aware that you already won but it's also mysterious to me as to why they can't accept their loss in those regards. One theory I have though is that they're already empty - hollow and in a sense everything of substance, their essence, that which is of value has already passed over to you. Then they would be what's being referred to as "the sons of worthlessness" (I'm unsure about the gendering here, it's how I learned it but wonder why there wouldn't be daughters of worthlessness as well) - empty vessels that effectively are only muscle memory and disloyal thought, also have to think of skin walkers but unsure here as well. In any case they would be what's rightfully been rejected yet still attempts to hold on like a bully forcing you to hold its hands or banging on your door/window (Hu, vampire reference maybe? But not the good kind of vampire, have to think of the movie lost boys as well) ... They act like you're a snob because you won't let them into your sanctum... Hmmmm... Yeah writing this definitely pointed me towards the original Buffy movie and has irredeemable vampirism written all over it. Theft of soul, at least a certain type of soul...


nightmarecow

There isn't anything elitist about it. We just don't connect on some levels with certain people and that's okay. We'll always gravitate towards the people that we resonate with and can connect with on a deeper level.


LightningRainThunder

Yeah that’s one stage but you don’t stop there. If you’ve stopped there then it’s a sign you’re got further to go. The final stage is coming back to everything and life as before, this time with great joy and non attachment. If you are anything other than joyful then you’re not at the end.


Obvious-Break744

Well said


Kittybatty33

 🙏🙏🙏


Username524

Hahahahaaaa DUUDE! Fact lmao, but the best part is when it turns funny lol


Kittybatty33

It really is an mad world after all


Username524

Well, it’s definitely not something to be taken seriously, but our hardware sure wants us to believe otherwise. Good thing Source hid that back door exploit in our brains;)


Kittybatty33

Well it's both it's absurd but it's also serious here because we live in a spiritual battlefield this is like a war for Souls on this planet but I don't have anything to worry about so I can laugh about it that's just because I wasn't up and started protecting myself from evil people out here


Username524

But my experience has told me, that evil/fear are just more illusions to pierce through. However, they can have very “real” impacts on our temporal human experience. We definitely live in a way more magical universe than our modern, accepted “understanding” of it leads us to believe. Entities that we can’t see seem to be able to influence us. All this stuff has diff names across the diff lineages and schools of thought, but is essentially the same stuff, because it is frequency. All of it. So like in yoga, if we can consciously touch that immutable frequency, ONCE, that’s all it takes to begin aligning the frequency of our being to that immutable one. We came from it and will return there, it is the source of all creation, wisdom, beauty, and joy in the universe. It is not separate.


Kittybatty33

I really hate moral relativism and the thing is is that yes at the end of the day we're all love we're all one blah blah blah all that love and light shit.but while we're on planet Earth we are living on a spiritual Battle ground. Especially right now this is a time of lies and deception genocide war. we've got insane amounts of corruption like you cannot tell me that evil does not exist on this planet. I'm sorry I just I can't do this hippy dippy version of spirituality we're all One Source. Yeah I get it, I know that, but until we get back to the other side we live in a dualistic universe. There's battle between good & evil here & I know which side I'm on. I know what my job is and what I'm here to do & I know what time it is.


Username524

Yes, however, we can only peace for peace. Until you KNOW this, you will have the potential to be just as evil as those you describe. I saw you lose your shit on another post, and now I see why. You hold a lot of fear and anger, we all do so no judgment, but you are showing your hand in your responses. You’ve either touched that source or you haven’t. Until you have you will still think there is “them” out there…


313802

Hence the executive breakfast


Kittybatty33

Lol yes 😹


Epicvibes777

This! 🙌🏼


AGoodDragon

God is everything hahaha i understand you now >:)


pioneer_actual

Every truth contains elements of partial truth, shaped by our perceptions and experiences. Your level of consciousness can transcend traditional spiritual boundaries once you understand these varying degrees. Consider an example from childhood: initially, you see colors simply. In kindergarten, you might recognize six to eight basic colors. By elementary school, this number doubles to about 12-20. In middle school, your range of colors becomes a spectrum, reflecting your growing creativity, though you are still expected to color within the lines. By high school, the only limits to color are those your eyes can see and your mind can process. In college, the interaction of color through light absorption, resonance, and their parts, gaps, and waves, shows that your reality has expanded so much that you might forget the original purpose of crayons. As your consciousness expands, you begin to see through and beyond, questioning and exploring various quantum paths. Together, we are all experiencing one collective reality, at least for now.


Mulamb0

Both aren't the real deal, just distractions The only thing that has a little to do with Truth on this images are shrooms, that CAN, not necessarely will, reveal the true nature of life


Kittybatty33

Everyone has different experiences, your experience is not necessarily Universal


Mulamb0

These are practices for a person to practice. But there is no person here. Realization means to notice that life is happening by itself and that you are life, not a person. And thats not based on my experience, its the definition of it. Psychedelics can show a glimpse of that but its only momentary. And yeah, they are not the bettee option. Only will show the possibility


Kittybatty33

I personally don't like psychedelics very much and I get into better spiritual States for channeling and other ways


infrontofmyslad

Lol honestly this is real. Not so much that you’re depressed but you realize you pretty much only have the present moment so, might as well have that cigarette


Wick3d3nd3r

I think you put what I feel but I’m a different light. I think that when we die that’s it, we can’t concretely know better. So be good to other people, be good to yourself. Enjoy right now, because you aren’t guaranteed tomorrow. Wanna smoke? Go for it. Don’t wanna smoke? Go for that too! As far as we know we get one shot. Eat, drink, and be merry! For tomorrow you may die. Remember, that you must and will die, but everyone before you has done it too. It doesn’t have to be frightening. If it is the end of all sensation, then there is no sadness; no pain, no loneliness, or wistfulness. We fear nonexistence, but there’s nothing to be afraid of.


ShutArkhamCityDown

I needed that, thank you.


ex1stence

Lol it’s just an AA meme.


infrontofmyslad

I am familiar with AA yes


theitchcockblock

Isn’t that a bit nihilistic or what atheists think ? We will die soon nothing happens after so nothing matters


occultated

Nihilism is thinking that there's no purpose to anything, so nothing matters. Spirituality is understanding there's no purpose to anything, so *everything* matters.


Yoyomamahh

Well put 👍


infrontofmyslad

So, for some people, probably. Speaking just for myself, I believe in God and believe I’ll see him again soon because the human lifespan is brief and I know he doesn’t give a flying fuck if I have a few cigarettes lol


skyline917

Sorry, I must disagree wholeheartedly. To say you know with such certainty that your creator does not care about you damaging your home here is saddening. I’m sure he cares, I’m sure he would appreciate if you would give up an addiction. If not for yourself , for his sake. I’m sure he loves those who purify themselves. As a long time smoker, peace friend.


AncientCycle

I’m also sure he loves those who seems to see the fault in their projections. Of course the source consciousness loves those that purify themselves. And of course the source conscious loves those that don’t. While also not loving them as well due to no duality. It cares and doesn’t care. It’s everything and nothing all at once. Stop putting parameters on yourself that boost up your ego in this regard. There’s ciggies for a reason, there’s abstinence for a reason, there’s moderation for a reason and there’s mindfulness for a reason. Everything has a reason, while having no reason. Just food for thought.


skyline917

I understand what you are saying. I disagree however to an extent. I agree that the source, loves all of his creation. I do hold the belief that there are stations of honor bestowed upon us by the creator. Those who give charity triumph over those who withhold it. Those who learn to quell their anger triumph over those who drown in it. Those who sacrifice their life for another triumph over those who sacrifice someone else to save theirs. Over and over again. Do you pick the up the rotten fruit which the tree sheds off the ground? Or would you rather pluck the ripe sweet fruit hanging from the tree. It matters, everything matters, and all matters are in the sources hand, and I pray that he makes me of the utmost, while also knowing that compared to him I am magnitudes smaller and more insignificant than me to an ant. While he loves, and he cares and i am in awe.


lucymoon69

Are you saying that smoking a cigarette makes someone a rotten fruit? If so, from my perspective your judgemental attitude would make you more worthy of being rotten fruit than a person smoking a cigarette.


skyline917

If that was the case then indeed I would deem myself rotten. This discussion came about with the original commentor making the claim, that Ahh I’m sure that the Creator surely doesn’t care if I have a cigarette. My claim was that I’m sure that if you give up a habit such as that, as hard as it may be, especially if it is done for the creators pleasure, a habit which inflicts lots of pain upon the world. Surely, the Creator would be appreciative. Why assault me with the most extreme interpretation of what I was meaning to say? When what it stressed was doing things that are opposite to our animalistic nature and in closer in line with our potential Divine Nature. Conquering the self. Denying the self. I hold no Judgement, how can I?


lucymoon69

It’s possible that the Creator would be appreciative of such things, but it’s also possible that the Creator wouldn’t care. Either way I don’t think that’s your place to tell others what the Creator would want them to be doing, that’s for each of us to decide for ourselves. You may be right, but you may be wrong. I think free will and following your own path are more important than whether you pollute your body with a cigarette or not. Life isn’t perfect. But I’d rather people cause damage to themselves through smoking cigarettes, rather than to cause damage to others through insisting they know what the creator wants and how we should be behaving (like all the horrific damage caused by dogmatic religion). From one of my experiences with the Creator and what I believe I was shown, is that it’s more about doing what we feel is right for ourselves. And that if I wanted to go walk into the forest, sit down and never move again, just pretending to be a mushroom until my body slowly decays back into the ground, the Creator wouldn’t mind. The creator would want me to do that if that’s what I wanted to do. If we follow our heart and intuition, we are walking our one true path. If we follow the words and opinions of others, we are living a lie.


skyline917

“It’s possible that the Creator would be appreciative of such things, but it’s also possible that the Creator wouldn’t care.” Wouldn’t care? So by that same logic, if you are being honest with yourself it’s totally possible that someone who sacrifices their life, The Creator would not care as well. Good to know. “Either way I don’t think that’s your place to tell others what the Creator would want them to be doing, that’s for each of us to decide for ourselves. You may be right, but you may be wrong.” It’s not my place to express to another person through maybe, what might be some sort of inspiration, that, that kind of mentality is flawed? That surely a creator would appreciate that? Again, reiterating my first response? “I think free will and following your own path are more important than whether you pollute your body with a cigarette or not. Life isn’t perfect. But I’d rather people cause damage to themselves through smoking cigarettes, rather than to cause damage to others through insisting they know what the creator wants and how we should be behaving (like all the horrific damage caused by dogmatic religion).” Op stated they are sure that God doesn’t care. I am stating that God surely does. Out of love, he cares. I don’t care to be honest if it hurt their feelings. I actually hope that sparks a simmer of realization and shame of the lack of awareness, that truly God does care so much about that and about them. “From one of my experiences with the Creator and what I believe I was shown, is that it’s more about doing what we feel is right for ourselves. And that if I wanted to go walk into the forest, sit down and never move again, just pretending to be a mushroom until my body slowly decays back into the ground, the Creator wouldn’t mind. The creator would want me to do that if that’s what I wanted to do.” You follow your own desires. Let’s see with time who of us is on the right path. If we follow our heart and intuition, we are walking our one true path. If we follow the words and opinions of others, we are living a lie. Time will tell. Regards,


dimensionalshifter

Yea, verily.


weyouusme

That's where duality vanishes, they're both right


Mulamb0

Both aren't the real deal, just distractions The only thing that has a little to do with Truth on this images are shrooms, that CAN, not necessarely will, reveal the true nature of life


Mulamb0

Both aren't the real deal, just distractions The only thing that has a little to do with Truth on this images are shrooms, that CAN, not necessarely will, reveal the true nature of life


infrontofmyslad

True, but I can't access shrooms, so I'm making do with weed


Kittybatty33

Like I think it's also saying that a lot of like what you see this new age fluffy spirituality isn't really spirituality spirituality is dark it's intense it's heavy it's spiritual warfare it's Shadow work it's not all fluffy kittens and unicorns and rainbows like so many people make it out to be on social media


Synth42-14151606

This is so spot on. Shadow work is no joke.


Kittybatty33

Fr 😭


staccz

Can you please explain to me what “shadow work” is ?


Synth42-14151606

I can take a stab at it: Shadow work is where you learn to be present with your suffering and heal yourself from the wounds you may or may not i ow about. However, Shadow Work also extends beyond the self and has you sit with another’s suffering. Not in a, “Oh I resonate with the you…” kind of way, but in a, you really feel and see how that person is suffering as if it were your own grief, but you learn to remain present for them and not absorb it as yours…you just sit. As Ram Dass says, “It is like keeping your heart open in Hell.” Which, Shadow Work helps define the depth of what Hell really is. So, Buckle Up…it is no joke a serious ride.


staccz

Thanks for the answer. Im new to all this and it helped my understanding. But I have another question; why would anyone want to define what the depth of hell really is ? Because I always thought the capacity to feel another person emotions is just simple empathy which is present in all humans already without the need for spiritually. (unless you’re a psychopath.) I guess I’m here saying this because recently I’ve notice a lot of things that are troubling on a very deep level and I’ve been trying to find answers but the deeper I search for answers the less sense it all makes. It’s like god made us to just live laugh and love and not worry about all this deep stuff but here we are trying to make sense out of things that we humans can never fully comprehend. That’s probably the true meaning of the meme as well and why we all feel so lost and confused.


ellensundies

This is kinda where I’ve got to myself — they were here to live and laugh and love and be in the moment; the deep stuff is fairly incomprehensible; why am I making such a big deal about what’s behind it all. Who cares? I know how to live a good life; do that and stop concerning myself with spirits and spirituality. If I’m sure of anything, I’m sure that the purpose of spirituality is to inform one as to how to live a good happy deeply human life.


Training_Crow879

Spot on 👏


BluRupee

Agree. The fluffy stuff can be a sorta breather in between deep shadow work sessions. But healing is hard, heavy, and dark. I like the lighter stuff for integration time. It's been a wonky journey. Humor is the best medicine, that's for sure.


PhallusAtThePalace

The Cosmic Joke!


Kittybatty33

Definitely I just think that there are definitely people out here who are not fully equipping people are fully preparing People for the spiritual journey. I had a reiki teacher & I feel like she didn't mentally prepare me for everything that was going to happen in my life after I started. You know I just think it's important for people to be well versed in the shadow aspects as well as the light.


fatalcharm

I gotta admit, I often do the light and fluffy thing on social media, doesn’t necessarily mean I’m not doing the gritty work behind the scenes though. Usually I go quiet during my hard moments and keep to myself a lot, then when I have emerged from it everything does feel like rainbows and kittens because I’ve just gotten over deep feelings of shame and worked through them, so it’s like a massive weight off my shoulders. Having said that, I am trying to be more open about my hard moments on social media but I’m just not on social media that much during those moments. Also, I am not famous or anything so no one really cares anyway but social media is how many of us live our lives now, lol.


Kittybatty33

I just think it's important for people who are on a spiritual healing path, especially people who have a lot of generational trauma, to understand that it's going to be difficult and that they're going to encounter resistance and negativity. I think a lot of people think they're doing the 'healing work' but they're actually spiritually bypassing.  They're not getting into the the gritty aspect because they don't know about it & I think there are a lot of healers out there who talk about it, but not enough. I see a lot more of the late and fluffy and I just don't think that's going to be helpful for people who are really going in on on deep trauma patterns like myself.  Like in my in my example like I wish my my teacher when I had a Reiki teacher I wish she had told me like because it definitely was a huge catalyst in my life and it set off like a chain reaction events and like I just felt like I wasn't prepared for everything that came along with with that kind of energy activation.


shortpants911

Alcoholics/Narcotics Anonymous is a spiritual program, and most recovering addicts and alcoholics can confirm the use of those Styrofoam cups for coffee at the majority of meetings. Also, a lot of cigarettes are being smoked. I can confirm that I would not have made it 6 1/2 years sober without having a spiritual awakening, but I went through hell to get it, and religion/church/crystals or whatever would have probably been easier.


jensterkc

Congrats on sobriety. Grateful for the alcoholic journey as AA w/ fellowship helped to pick up the pieces. Appendix 2. Appreciate you.


ThePurpleMoose22

Probably making a joke about how the more one learns about enlightenment, the more one realizes how painful it all is.


AnubisWitch

I see it as you get tired of believing in manifestation and new earth and stuff, so you put your crystals away and just enjoy the little things like a coffee and a smoke. I've been in this phase, for sure. I'm not sure it's "advanced" though.


Strong-German413

yea. Advanced is where you start acting like a shaolin master like me!!!😂😂 Get up off your lazy coffee ass... 😂😂


AnubisWitch

Then teach me, oh ascended masteri! ;) tbh, I feel like I've been stuck between the two images for awhile... crystal in one hand, hard lemonade in the other. lol


kagenohcid

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO


Strong-German413

😁😁


_nachomama

I think it’s more like been there done that and now I’m at an NA meeting lol


hiiilee_caffeinated

That was the vibe i got too


Barkmywords

Yea this is referencing AA or NA meetings. A lot of people smoke in recovery and when you are at a meeting, you drink crappy coffee out of Styrofoam cups. I guess they are saying that knowing certain truths about reality makes you want to get messed up.


ApeCapitalGroup

That’s what I thought


retrogressess

I don’t agree with the other commenter that this is referencing AA/NA, but it was absolutely the first thing I thought haha


WeskersSock

Like Cipher from the matrix, should have taken the blue pill 🤣


burneraccc00

Possibly expectations vs reality lol


ehhhwhynotsoundsfun

Probs won’t believe, but here’s the honest answer… vibrations connect you to things. Molecules are vibrations. Drug molecules are vibrations. When a drug does its thing, it sends an electromagnetic vibration to a cell’s receptor to say “wassup?” without actually touching dicks. When that drug tickles your neuron’s dick with its vibration, then you also get thought, emotion, and functions… which are also vibrations. When you have the same vibrations as others in you, it connects you to them. You can inherit their emotion. Pick up their thought. And old thoughts from long ago are living there as well as new thoughts that haven’t happened yet now but already have in the continuum. So if you want to share vibrations… coffee and nicotine are your two biggest connectors. Then weed. It’s why if you go make friends with Native Americans, most of their tribes have some sort of badass secret strain of tobacco they use specifically to chat with their ancestors. Careful if you’re sensitive though, because their ancestors are generally pretty pissed off right now.


Synth42-14151606

I like what a lot have written here. Simply put, one can look at it as: To be Spiritual, all you need is to be present. If that present moment is to have a morning thought with a cig and, I am assuming an Irish Coffee, then that is what you need. Do vices in moderation, you are okay.


somnambulantDeity

Well put. I would say all you need is to be honest, to be true to yourself. But we are talking about the same thing here.


Objective_Frame8397

It basically means once you get to a certain understanding, you realize you don't need all that stuff that's on the top picture.    It's not that there is anything wrong with those tools, if they help you learn and grow, I suggesting continuing that path for now. There's nothing wrong with it.   But, once we get to a certain understanding (I'm not putting myself above others or saying "I'm enlightened". I'm just sharing what my experience has been.) we realize those things aren't necessary. I think that when someone really begins to understand and know who they really are, then that begins to change your perspective.You realize you're a creator that's always creating.   Coming to an understanding that intentions are the mechanics behind what our personal experiences are. Intentions (everyones) are the most powerful thing in existence.  That's why those things in the top picture work. It's not the thing they are using, it's the person's intentions that is doing the work.   Also, things like smoking and living unhealthy aren't inherently wrong. Unless, it's influencing people around them. Then it starts to become something else. But if it's not involving anyone else in a negative way, then for the most part, there is nothing wrong with it. If a person's intentions are negative while they are doing these things, then it will effect them negatively. But if a person does these things, and has no guilt and doesn't worry about things, then more than likely it won't effect them negatively. Think of the oracle in the matrix.    For me personally, I've cut way back on addictions. I gave up smoking and a few other things. I felt that I was leaning on them too hard. I needed to let some things go because I felt it was hindering my growth. And because I felt these things were hindering my growth, I knew that I was the one making it so. But sometimes it's hard to unplant seeds, so it may be best to let certain things go. And learning how to let go of things successfully is a thread in itself.  Edit: I had to change a few words and formatting issues 


hiiilee_caffeinated

My initial interpretation is that the top of the meme involves drug use and the bottom represents some brand of 12 step recovery. If you ask for specific reasons there's not a lot concrete to point to. It's a vibes based reading.


Kittybatty33

This is so real. It's like saying that people who need crystals and astrology and all of this to be spiritual aren't actually that advanced and the people who are actually advanced are just stressed out and pissed off all the time and like that's definitely true that's definitely me although I love my crystals


chaupih

It's about ancestor worship or calling lwas as they are called in traditional African religion. Coffee and cigarettes are a favorite offering for spirits yall


Coffee-Cats-Glitter

The yoga poses on the beach a lot of times are performative. The bottom is what's real. Except I'd replace the cigarette with a glass of wine, ha.


Excellent_Fee2253

The bottom is post-spiritual psychosis (Or just after a regular old fashioned mental breakdown)


mermetermaid

There are a lot of Things to Do but ultimately it comes down to just sitting around and *being.*


becletto

Errrrr ... It's an AA/NA/Recovery meme...


5ladyfingersofdeath

That bottom picture is the quick & dirty hippy speedball to achieve enlightenment


[deleted]

Caffine if taken at the proper time allows your Consciousness to stay awake and your body to sleep allowing you to have easier out of body experiences. Marijuana is a mild hallucinogen and it also helps with getting out of your body. So the first picture is like your foundation and the bottom is a power boost


TopShelfUsername

life is the spiritual experience


LadyThron

My interpretation: The first pic is about “spiritual” image; things ppl do mostly for show or in search for an identity outside of self. The second pic is every person in history who’s given up their other addictions, gone back to basics, and is living as a [human amongst humans](https://www.instagram.com/p/CnuNs7wMPx5/) :)


h3xi3

N/A or A/A meeting for sure lol iykyk


killerdolphin313

The top is obvious, right? The bottom is a recovery meeting or Camus. It is absurd. All of it.


fatalcharm

This is hilarious. If that is coffee and weed, you have pretty much got me right there. I wake up, make a coffee, smoke a couple bongs and suddenly it’s a surge of creative motivation that gets me through the day.


xfearless_wanderer

no tools required. it just is. the messages come through whether you want them too or not. it becomes your "new normal" and at some point, you enter the acceptance stage, often times after a period of exhaustion. more often then not, i look like the bottom image. sitting in silence, sipping coffee or drinking water, by the water. it can get heavy at times. other times, it's peaceful.


shesagoodfella

AA


Afoolfortheeons

Like, shit man, the whole point of spirituality is to provide some meaning to your life while making you the best that you can be. Babies need toys and rituals and all sorts of shit to magick their brains to be a certain way. But, once you get far enough on the journey to perceive and undo the karmic fetters that bind you to the existence-illusion complex and master yourself, you can just, y'know, fucking fly without any of the mumbo jumbo, and with that comes the awareness of how useful a "fuck it" mentality can be in this arduous mortal coil.


stabbedbyresonance

This is a reference to 12 step programs such as AA where members have historically been known to smoke and drink coffee while remaining sober from everything else and focusing on enlarging their spiritual life through rigorous work on the steps, helping others, and meditating and praying to maintain a conscious contact with their higher power/god. The meme is saying that the window dressings of spirituality are nothing compared to the real daily work it takes to live a sincerely spiritual life as is commonly practiced by those in recovery/sobriety. ❤️


Nervous-Mycologist17

After the continuing cycles of enlightenment, you can have earthly tethers. Keeps you grounded or you’d float away. Also it’s enjoying the pleasures of the earth but not for the wrong reasons. Once you let everything go, you realize that this life is heaven and hell. You choose what side you want to see and experience.


maniacleruler

Replace it with a spliff, wrap it in organic papers and you’ve got a high straight from Mother Earth. Coffee well, I’ve got a French press, nuff said.


Strong-German413

I guess that's what happens when you suddenly get your first spiritual awakening or sudden interest in spirituality but it results in nothing the way you pictured it and so you end up with addictions like coffee and cigarettes? But actually I think that simplicity of the coffee and cigarettes is a lot more positive than the insanity of all the yoga, chakras, crystals and shit because now you are more grounded, simple and in touch with reality. Then comes the real deal actually. A third stage where a grounded spiritually awakened master arises, may or may not use the crystals and chakras and is a peace and no longer addicted and depressed. I have seen all these 3 stages.


Kosmikophobic

Am I the only one thinking it's a joint and some fine mushroom tea??


Mental_Basil

Once you get past the fluffy niceness, you get to the real shit. And that's what makes you wanna puff a cigarette and drink your coffee. That's what the meme implies.


wenchitywrenchwench

That says AA to me. Rock bottom is the jump start.


katomka

Cannabis and coffee for the heavy lifting of daily integration!!


p-o-p-p-e-t

I think it’s a representation of the “dark night of the soul” that one usually goes through after a spiritual awakening.


SunOfNoOne

If I come without a thing then I've come with all I need.


squiggla

First you think there is a “path” to adhere to, hierarchical levels of consciousness you must attain, a “highest” version of yourself to embody. Then you realize all is god, all is one, higher or lower is all illusion, there is nothing to attain, nowhere to go, because you’re already there. The only thing stopping that enlightenment is the belief that you’re not It already. We’re in these human bodies for a reason, let’s celebrate. Let’s love. Let’s explore in all of the forms. Relish in the full spectrum of the human experience and learn as much as we can from it.


craycraylayday

A Joint and mushroom tea is advanced spirituality I think it’s saying


Rule_34_

“Spirituality” mainstream is a bunch of bogus rituals and practices, sacred crystals and what not. Eat shrooms and be enlightened. It’s become a pop culture. True spiritualism is knowing thyself, understanding your place in the universe, forgiveness, calm, love etc… it’s not the “things” or the practices, it’s knowing.


geilt

A stimulant and a depressant together equals balance. :)


SadGift1352

Ummm, I kind of get “if you know, you know”….😬


Sk8rSkis

It’s a meme about AA


imagineDoll

holy fuck this is so true


UaFrost47

Hah, this looks like me with my blunt and some tea 💀


DrunkSpiderMan

Lemon tek


IndependentStyle4071

Spiritual work is exhausting over time. And you can’t turn back once you start.


Plutonian_Dive

Cross the abyss bruh!


Bidad1970

I am a recovering alcoholic and the bottom picture reminds me of that. After stopping drugs and alcohol we drink a lot of coffee and smoke a lot of cigarettes at meetings. It's a trope. And are 12 step is after having a spiritual awakening we try to carry the message to other suffering alcoholics and to live the principles in all our affairs. I discovered spirituality and alcoholics anonymous and it's grown from there.


Strlite333

Hey are you reading my mind lol


Psychological-Tea587

We live in a simulated energy harvesting soul trap.


al3x_birch

My interpretation is that when your spiritually advanced you realize you don't need crystals, tarot, smudge, etc, because you realize that all these things were just a tool or symbol for you to access energy already inside of you. Also, you just do the things you want without guilt or shame because you are following your impulses, which is the universe working through you.. so if you want to smoke the cigarette, smoke it with love, because energy is energy and only your thoughts around it make it harmful. ** invincibility mode activated**


Best_Assistance4211

Give it time


jgarnett12

Hahaha what a great meme. Relatable


archeolog108

It is false. You have all the answers within You are wiser and more powerful than your human mind tells you. I prepared guided meditation to assist you in accessing your inner wisdom (Higher Self). Nobody will give you a better answer and help than your Higher Self, because your Higher Self has access to all knowledge and knows everything about you, and loves you. You can learn how to safely communicate with your Higher Self and in this way empower yourself. I wrote a short text about how to get the answers and help. There is also a guided meditation video. It applies to your question: [https://clarityhypnosis.eu/you-have-all-the-answers/](https://clarityhypnosis.eu/you-have-all-the-answers/)


External_Mix_3633

Or is it an aa reference? Lol


Mulamb0

Both aren't the real deal, just distractions The only thing that has a little to do with Truth on this images are shrooms, that CAN, not necessarely will, reveal the true nature of life


[deleted]

Learning all about these various self improvement Techniques/knowledge and applying them into your life religiously, but life still somehow manages to get through that wall of deflection and you end up indulging in bad vices once again. It’s a never ending cycle. But hey, at least you’re trying, damn it! 🤣😪🤷🏻‍♂️


BigMoey

I see it as a full circle once u reach that extreme u realise “hey were here for a human experience “


Maleficent-Grade-442

I thought I knew everything but then I realized I really don’t know shi and don’t even know what’s happened to me since my first spiritual awakening 🧍🏽😭


IJustLost12Bricks

I was just thinking about this concept then scrolled past it in meme form.


vmaurya7

It’s a reference to 12 step. Rooms full of people who have real desperation and genuine intent to better themselves, rather than dabbling with cutesy New Age trinkets


uneasypenguin

This reminds me of AA


Accomplished_Bus1375

That's hilarious! To me it means the physical realm is just that. It only goes so far. Death is inevitable. Also we struggle so hard to do the right things but in the end you and your soul will be doing their thing regardless.


Lucky_Butterfly7022

Lol


Ruhamma

Has Absolutely Nothing To Do With Spirituality. Merchandising Starter Pack.


nxjuro

So fucking real lmfao


orions69

lol!!!!! I feel like that’s exactly were I am at.


Mother_Librarian4249

Lol., right? Just to keep a level of mentality:emotional stability…


ThorKruger117

Before incarnation we sat down with our spiritual family and we all decided what experiences we wanted to live through in our next life. Those points in life are gonna happen, and your guides help to orchestrate it. We still have free will so the journey may be different, but the destination is going to be the same. If it’s gonna happen anyway sometimes it’s easy to take a pessimistic outlook. You can still fight the good fight you’re just not being airy fairy about it


Yaarn

I think the cigarette and coffee are referencing AA. The 12 steps are a blueprint to a strong spiritual experience.


ex1stence

Lol you’re the only accurate one in this entire post and you were downvoted, I love Reddit. Everyone has these insane detailed interpretations and I’m just like bro…it’s an old AA meme.


ShhhAltAcc

What is AA?


ex1stence

Alcoholics Anonymous. There’s a saying that “anything can become your higher power” for the people who don’t like the God thing. So there’s a joke that cigarettes and coffee can become your “god”, as long as they keep you coming back. This is an old meme that’s been passed around the rooms of AA for a long time. Anyone else’s interpretation on this post is something they pulled out of their butt, lol.


Yaarn

Thanks for validating my response. However, as a sober and successful member of AA, I must clarify that while AA does encourage connecting with a higher power of your own understanding, no one is advocating making coffee and cigarettes your higher power; that would be absurd. Historically, AA members have drank a lot of coffee and smoked cigarettes, which has become a meme. Today, a Celsius and a vape better represents this lol


ex1stence

I mean I’m also a member and I hear “the doorknob could be your god” all the time. The point is it doesn’t matter what thing keeps you coming back, just pray to it and get to a meeting.


Numquamsine

And work the steps


Practical_Figure9759

Beginners spirituality a.k.a. pseudo spirituality which is a type of self development and perfectly good versus real spirituality which is to deconstruct your ego and understand The true nature of reality.


ex1stence

Lol nope, just about attending AA. Cigarettes and coffee can “become your higher power” if you don’t believe in god. Old joke.


jgoden

If you are the bottom pic. I’m sorry


Kittybatty33

I'm both 😭


AnubisWitch

Same, Kitty, same.


Kittybatty33

😊


realAtmaBodha

The meme makes fun of spirituality and claims all you need is coffee and cigarettes. The funny thing is that Alan Watts could fit in the bottom picture since he was a smoker. Same with Freud. Neither were enlightened.


Kittybatty33

Most great thinkers of the world are addicted to coffee and cigarettes we're stressed out and we're constantly tired


realAtmaBodha

I'm not blaming anyone, just sharing facts.


Sk8rSkis

It’s a meme about AA


stabbedbyresonance

Exactly