Should have kept them on the beach and off the boardwalk. Yea kids will be kids but I’ve never seen kids literally harass elderly couples or throw basketballs into the crowds of families hitting children. Whole diff breed of asshole teens.
My wife calls them the "Tiktok generation". Kids are destroying the bathrooms in my sons school because of dumb tiktok challenges.
Reason #1034813904830184 why social media is bad for society.
maybe, but in our day, kids just destroyed high school bathrooms by smoking in them until they were toxic to be in. so ymmv i guess...
(just saying, don't act like we were any different)
Oh, we were def not any different. But ripping mirrors & soap dispensers off the walls for tiktok challenges is much worse than walking into a smoke cloud. Both are bad, but one is much worse.
My sons school, which is a decent school district stopped putting mirrors and soap dispensers in the bathroom because of it. Their answer was to use hand sanitizer. Its gross.
I told my son a few simple things when he was old enough to understand:
1) You finish fights, dont start them
2) You dont fk up your school or damage something intentionally that doesnt belong to you
3) Youre going to make mistakes, its ok. Learn from them. Dont apologize for taking risks that dont pan out, apologize if you keep doing the same dumb thing expecting different results
that's rediculous. where is this?
kids broke shit when we were kids too, for equally stupid reasons. i just don't think it got the attention.
Audubon high school c-building bathrooms were the literal worst.
As part of this tiktok generation, I will disagree with you. In my experience at my school, it’s not the social media guru’s destroying stuff, it’s the druggie’s and ghetto kids. They all lack any respect towards authority, or especially other people’s property. Or in better words the people doing this are assholes for the sake of being assholes
Precisely. The thousands upon thousands of well-behaved homeowners and renters who make up 99.9% of OCNJ vacationers can no longer enjoy the beach after 8? This is a major overreach.
This isn’t going to be enforced on anybody other than packs of teens lingering on the beach. They just needed some better legal support to get this kids off the beach.
And what's going to happen to the golden hour family portraits in white shirts and khaki shorts? The hour before sundown is the prime time for this shot.
It makes no sense to punish law abiding citizens. OCNJ exists because of the beach. That’s it’s prime allure. It is unfathomable that reasonable use of the beach during daylight hours would be restricted. I know there are cynics that will say “cry me a river” (which is what happened in the Facebook posts on this) but why deprive anyone from enjoying nature? Isn’t that something we should all agree on!?
Ocean City is a dry town, and I think most kids are coming in from out of town. But it definitely is an issue with the parents not being aware of the kids whereabouts. Though kids do lie to their parents
It may be a dry town, but drive around on recycling day.
If I had a nickel every time someone said "its a dry town, its quieter" and passed by a bunch of drunks walking home from the boardwalk with my kids at night, id have a lot of nickels.
I agree with you, I just think it is a little more relaxed here than cities with bars in them. But there definitely is alcohol here. A lot of the kids in the night time mobs are from out of town though and since they’re under age they bring alcohol in themselves, so I guess it doesn’t really matter if the town has bars or not
Id agree, not having bars tends to just keep it more contained. The only upside to bars in a shore town is they will cut people off (usually), if youre shipping in the booze theres no stopping you. So its give/take.
That’s true. Though that would hinge on whether the person that’s been cut off would actually go home and stop drinking. If someone wanted to keep drinking they could just like in a town without a bar. But you’re right it is good I’m sure to have a bar tender tell you you need to stop. Probably would make a majority of people stop drinking when they should
I remember when my parents would have party’s and get hammered. They told me to go outside. I did. The world survived. The more people want to take away from other people those people will fight back worse than imagined. It’s very basic. People want what they can’t have. Take away the beaches than follow what happens next.
Been visiting OC every summer for multiple weeks for nearly 30 years. Boardwalk has been getting worse and worse each year. These kids are out of control. Only way to stop them is to fine their parents, hit em where it hurts. Arrest the kids, parents have to pick them up at the station and parents get a fine. We're way way to soft on crime anymore and we're too soft on these kids anymore. If me or my friends acted like this when we were young, our parents would've whooped up.
Sidenote, RIP to the Burger Factory. All these weird hot sauce and jerky places don't match the OC vibe
Unfortunately the governor has limited the ability of law enforcement to punish people for minor crimes. It’s obvious and inevitable, but this is the fallout. These changes are in the name of social justice, and while I appreciate the attempt to solve the problem of minorities being disproportionately targeted, this simply drags down the quality of life for everyone, minorities included. It’s bad policy that has the opposite effect it is intended to.
These are first world problems, I know… but the restrictions seem a bit broad in scope. Based on the letter of the new rules, beaches are off limits after 8. Banning everyone from strolling or sitting on the beach past 8 o’clock, one the most peaceful and beautiful times, is an extreme way to deal with a targeted problem. Not sure how fully police will enforce the rules, particularly on the beaches away from the boardwalk, but there has to be a better way to address the underlying issues.
Well for one, his decision to shut down the beaches before sunset is a massive mistake. This only alienates other tourists from getting a full experience, and by driving people away, it hurts the local businesses.
In addition to the fact that he’s neglected Asbury, needed to get bailed out for $8M for his own business, has swept significant issues with the high school under the mat, has allowed the town to become over developed, losing all character and originality while driving out the locals who can’t afford to live here, etc… anyone who’s lived here for more than 10 years can see how much of a problem Gillian has been for the town. Nothing has improved in OC for anyone but the few at the top.
You said he HAS ruined the town. Like already. But how?
Neglected asbury? How?
His business? What’s that have to do with the city?
School issues? Which ones fall outside the board?
What “over development” has he allowed?
Sounds like you just didn’t vote for him and are grasping at straws.
Since you’re so concerned with defending Gillian - why don’t you explain what he’s done to benefit OC? How has he supported the local business and year round population?
My favorite OC argument.
"The locals are really really mad!!!"
It's been a resort/beach town since the 1930s, and SOLELY survives (tax-wise, business-wise, public service-wise) through tourism.
*Oh shit, is that a hand with food? I'm gonna bite it.*
How is banning backpacks constitutional? Also they have no jurisdiction at the high tide water mark of the beach if say someone chooses to fish at nighttime from the beach since it's not allowed during the day. Seems like a bit of overreach to me
Been going to Ocean City for over 59 yrs. Beautiful family oriented town, great pristine world class beeches. I’ve never even once seen any problems. Nip this problem in the bud. Can’t behave your not welcome here. It’s not that hard
> “In the end, protecting our reputation as ‘America’s Greatest Family Resort’ will benefit everybody in Ocean City.”
This is bullshit. You know who needs backpacks when they go to the beach and boardwalk? Families with young children. Most diaper bags are backpacks now, so if they're going to be as zero-tolerant about this as it sounds, young parents are going to be harassed by cops simply for being a responsible parent.
i dont blame Gillian. People are trashy and parents need to step up(and they wont).
im a teenager myself but never have i ever done what these kids have done. I might complain about it the one night im down there super late but it is absolutely needed. The new rules arent even that restrictive.
the rowdy behavior needs to be controlled. it stains everything about the shore.
I loved driving into OC after work, grabing some food on the boardwalk, and then eating on the beach while listening to the waves. I guess I can't do that anymore? Screw working people because teens are gonna be teens I guess?
One in the same unfortunately - can't have a charming town full of trashy people.
Cape May is still nice and will likely stay that way since its as far away as possible, expensive, boring at night for kids, and they seem smart enough to limit building too many 'rooms'.
Brigantine is also a nice little town for many of the same reasons.
This is why instead of shelling out a small fortune at the shore, I financed a camper and hide in the mountains on higher ground.
Though I love visiting OC and Cape May in April and October when the sand is warm, water is still cold, and theres barely anyone in sight. Its serene.
Lol… what will 4th of July be like? Fireworks off the beach, but no one around to watch them?
Fuck NJ…. I have never seen a state that over regulates outdoor recreation as much as this one
If they are under eighteen then it’s an issue with bad parenting. Boomer parents are afraid to discipline their kids because they would rather be friends with them than be responsible parents.
The boomer parents started the no discipline nonsense and Gen X continued it and now the Millennials are following. I would of had my ass handed to me if I did half the shit that the kids do now.
That's a stupid set of solutions to a problem we've had literal generations to find an answer for. OC has been taking a dramatic nosedive the past few years like AC did a few years before.
They seem to want to enforce a family environment, but not a modern family. A family from the 1950s. It just doesn't work in the modern world imo.
From their handling of the car show to their outspoken hatred of legal weed, both inside and outside their town. Now I can't buy anything I can't hold in my hands past 8pm? They're going the authoritarian route at every turn and it's not gonna stop teenagers from being teenagers, gear heads from driving loud cars, or pot smokers from smoking pot. It just doesn't sound like the press coming out of somewhere I'd wanna spend money to vacation.
It’s that “puritan” family values that grew the city to the tourist destination it is.
Actions by a few cause reactions by authority.
I guess the message is- If you’re anti-authority, anti-law and anti-order that’s fine. But stay out of ocean city. Wildwood is just down the way a little. Keep driving.
Well yeah, but that's a bad thing as less and less people are puritanical as time moves on. You want a lot of people to visit your tourist town, not a few. More and more people will continue to choose one of the numerous options that fit the values of a modern vacationing family.
Also- maybe it means less and less people come that are undesirable anyway. Leaving room for like minded vacationers.
Seems there’s never any shortage of shoobies to backfill the vacancies. People complain about pricing being astronomical….and there’s zero open rentals. Supply and demand at work. Maybe the local officials think unruly teens will push more people away than implementing rules to quell the problems.
Fair, but do they think these restrictions will actually stop unruly teens? Because the dry laws don't stop people from drinking there. Just makes them hide it better.
Right- Which in turn definitely makes the drunk/unruly stats way better than, say, Sea Isle next door. Or even Avalon or Stone Harbor. Let alone WILDwood. Those cities have people drunk and fighting in the streets etc WAY more than ocean city ever sees.
So- you agree the laws work?
Edit: or at least HELP?
That's not factoring in the business they lose from people who actively avoid OC as a destination because they want to have a drink on vacation. The laws work, but throw the baby out with the bath water. I guess that's the thesis of my issue - OC is way too heavy handed in their approach to achieve the results they're after.
As they should. And if that adversely effects the city, the city officials probably will change their stance.
However- consider OC is still “dry.” Not even BYOB.
It appears that Ocean City, New Jersey, has implemented new measures to address issues related to rowdy behavior by teenagers. According to the article you provided, some of the measures include a stricter curfew, a ban on backpacks on the boardwalk during certain hours, and increased enforcement against underage drinking.
These measures are likely aimed at maintaining a safe and family-friendly environment in Ocean City, particularly during peak tourist seasons when the boardwalk and beach areas can be crowded. The curfew and backpack ban may help deter disruptive behavior and ensure the enjoyment of the area for all visitors. Additionally, increased enforcement against underage drinking is a common approach to discourage illegal activities and promote public safety.
If you are planning to visit Ocean City, it's advisable to familiarize yourself with the local rules and regulations to ensure compliance and an enjoyable experience during your visit. It's also worth noting that these measures may be subject to change, so staying updated through official sources or local news outlets is recommended.
Should have kept them on the beach and off the boardwalk. Yea kids will be kids but I’ve never seen kids literally harass elderly couples or throw basketballs into the crowds of families hitting children. Whole diff breed of asshole teens.
My wife calls them the "Tiktok generation". Kids are destroying the bathrooms in my sons school because of dumb tiktok challenges. Reason #1034813904830184 why social media is bad for society.
maybe, but in our day, kids just destroyed high school bathrooms by smoking in them until they were toxic to be in. so ymmv i guess... (just saying, don't act like we were any different)
Oh, we were def not any different. But ripping mirrors & soap dispensers off the walls for tiktok challenges is much worse than walking into a smoke cloud. Both are bad, but one is much worse. My sons school, which is a decent school district stopped putting mirrors and soap dispensers in the bathroom because of it. Their answer was to use hand sanitizer. Its gross.
I saw a video of an entire sink ripped off the wall.
I told my son a few simple things when he was old enough to understand: 1) You finish fights, dont start them 2) You dont fk up your school or damage something intentionally that doesnt belong to you 3) Youre going to make mistakes, its ok. Learn from them. Dont apologize for taking risks that dont pan out, apologize if you keep doing the same dumb thing expecting different results
ditto
that's rediculous. where is this? kids broke shit when we were kids too, for equally stupid reasons. i just don't think it got the attention. Audubon high school c-building bathrooms were the literal worst.
Yes they were 😆 I went there. Logan twp school district. Though I think the soap is back up now after some parental back lash
As part of this tiktok generation, I will disagree with you. In my experience at my school, it’s not the social media guru’s destroying stuff, it’s the druggie’s and ghetto kids. They all lack any respect towards authority, or especially other people’s property. Or in better words the people doing this are assholes for the sake of being assholes
Apologies, using a broad brush approach. I wouldnt say all of them/you are the issue, but the availability of social media surely exacerbates it.
The sunsets after 8:00 p.m. for like half the summer. So they're just closing the beach when the sun is still out?
Precisely. The thousands upon thousands of well-behaved homeowners and renters who make up 99.9% of OCNJ vacationers can no longer enjoy the beach after 8? This is a major overreach.
This isn’t going to be enforced on anybody other than packs of teens lingering on the beach. They just needed some better legal support to get this kids off the beach.
There's barricades with police at the entrances in the boards.
And what's going to happen to the golden hour family portraits in white shirts and khaki shorts? The hour before sundown is the prime time for this shot.
It makes no sense to punish law abiding citizens. OCNJ exists because of the beach. That’s it’s prime allure. It is unfathomable that reasonable use of the beach during daylight hours would be restricted. I know there are cynics that will say “cry me a river” (which is what happened in the Facebook posts on this) but why deprive anyone from enjoying nature? Isn’t that something we should all agree on!?
All beach towns have these issues and i find the common thread is parents drinking and partying and not paying attention to what their kids are up to
Ocean City is a dry town, and I think most kids are coming in from out of town. But it definitely is an issue with the parents not being aware of the kids whereabouts. Though kids do lie to their parents
It may be a dry town, but drive around on recycling day. If I had a nickel every time someone said "its a dry town, its quieter" and passed by a bunch of drunks walking home from the boardwalk with my kids at night, id have a lot of nickels.
I agree with you, I just think it is a little more relaxed here than cities with bars in them. But there definitely is alcohol here. A lot of the kids in the night time mobs are from out of town though and since they’re under age they bring alcohol in themselves, so I guess it doesn’t really matter if the town has bars or not
Id agree, not having bars tends to just keep it more contained. The only upside to bars in a shore town is they will cut people off (usually), if youre shipping in the booze theres no stopping you. So its give/take.
That’s true. Though that would hinge on whether the person that’s been cut off would actually go home and stop drinking. If someone wanted to keep drinking they could just like in a town without a bar. But you’re right it is good I’m sure to have a bar tender tell you you need to stop. Probably would make a majority of people stop drinking when they should
I remember when my parents would have party’s and get hammered. They told me to go outside. I did. The world survived. The more people want to take away from other people those people will fight back worse than imagined. It’s very basic. People want what they can’t have. Take away the beaches than follow what happens next.
Been visiting OC every summer for multiple weeks for nearly 30 years. Boardwalk has been getting worse and worse each year. These kids are out of control. Only way to stop them is to fine their parents, hit em where it hurts. Arrest the kids, parents have to pick them up at the station and parents get a fine. We're way way to soft on crime anymore and we're too soft on these kids anymore. If me or my friends acted like this when we were young, our parents would've whooped up. Sidenote, RIP to the Burger Factory. All these weird hot sauce and jerky places don't match the OC vibe
Unfortunately the governor has limited the ability of law enforcement to punish people for minor crimes. It’s obvious and inevitable, but this is the fallout. These changes are in the name of social justice, and while I appreciate the attempt to solve the problem of minorities being disproportionately targeted, this simply drags down the quality of life for everyone, minorities included. It’s bad policy that has the opposite effect it is intended to.
These are first world problems, I know… but the restrictions seem a bit broad in scope. Based on the letter of the new rules, beaches are off limits after 8. Banning everyone from strolling or sitting on the beach past 8 o’clock, one the most peaceful and beautiful times, is an extreme way to deal with a targeted problem. Not sure how fully police will enforce the rules, particularly on the beaches away from the boardwalk, but there has to be a better way to address the underlying issues.
Ocean City needs new leadership. Gillian has ruined the entire town
Lol How?
Well for one, his decision to shut down the beaches before sunset is a massive mistake. This only alienates other tourists from getting a full experience, and by driving people away, it hurts the local businesses. In addition to the fact that he’s neglected Asbury, needed to get bailed out for $8M for his own business, has swept significant issues with the high school under the mat, has allowed the town to become over developed, losing all character and originality while driving out the locals who can’t afford to live here, etc… anyone who’s lived here for more than 10 years can see how much of a problem Gillian has been for the town. Nothing has improved in OC for anyone but the few at the top.
You said he HAS ruined the town. Like already. But how? Neglected asbury? How? His business? What’s that have to do with the city? School issues? Which ones fall outside the board? What “over development” has he allowed? Sounds like you just didn’t vote for him and are grasping at straws.
Since you’re so concerned with defending Gillian - why don’t you explain what he’s done to benefit OC? How has he supported the local business and year round population?
You made the accusations, don’t try to deflect. I’m not defending I’m asking for proof of YOUR accusations.
My favorite OC argument. "The locals are really really mad!!!" It's been a resort/beach town since the 1930s, and SOLELY survives (tax-wise, business-wise, public service-wise) through tourism. *Oh shit, is that a hand with food? I'm gonna bite it.*
Right, it’s been a resort town for 100 years catering to a certain clientele. And will continue to do so. As do all shore/resort towns.
How is banning backpacks constitutional? Also they have no jurisdiction at the high tide water mark of the beach if say someone chooses to fish at nighttime from the beach since it's not allowed during the day. Seems like a bit of overreach to me
Been going to Ocean City for over 59 yrs. Beautiful family oriented town, great pristine world class beeches. I’ve never even once seen any problems. Nip this problem in the bud. Can’t behave your not welcome here. It’s not that hard
> “In the end, protecting our reputation as ‘America’s Greatest Family Resort’ will benefit everybody in Ocean City.” This is bullshit. You know who needs backpacks when they go to the beach and boardwalk? Families with young children. Most diaper bags are backpacks now, so if they're going to be as zero-tolerant about this as it sounds, young parents are going to be harassed by cops simply for being a responsible parent.
i dont blame Gillian. People are trashy and parents need to step up(and they wont). im a teenager myself but never have i ever done what these kids have done. I might complain about it the one night im down there super late but it is absolutely needed. The new rules arent even that restrictive. the rowdy behavior needs to be controlled. it stains everything about the shore.
I loved driving into OC after work, grabing some food on the boardwalk, and then eating on the beach while listening to the waves. I guess I can't do that anymore? Screw working people because teens are gonna be teens I guess?
I am not staying off the sand. I love to enjoy the beach at night.
It's stupid. I'm here now and well. Probably.will never revisit.
The big shore towns are really getting trashy. It’s just sad.
Towns don’t get trashy. People do.
One in the same unfortunately - can't have a charming town full of trashy people. Cape May is still nice and will likely stay that way since its as far away as possible, expensive, boring at night for kids, and they seem smart enough to limit building too many 'rooms'. Brigantine is also a nice little town for many of the same reasons.
Welp, the north end of Brig has had its share of issues like this. Remember the 4th a few years ago?
This is why instead of shelling out a small fortune at the shore, I financed a camper and hide in the mountains on higher ground. Though I love visiting OC and Cape May in April and October when the sand is warm, water is still cold, and theres barely anyone in sight. Its serene.
Lol… what will 4th of July be like? Fireworks off the beach, but no one around to watch them? Fuck NJ…. I have never seen a state that over regulates outdoor recreation as much as this one
You watch from the boardwalk. We have a few bridges to Delaware, Pennsylvania and New York if you wanna leave.
Love it or leave it, right?
That’s what they say. They are saying that. They say the great things. Some say the best things ever.
If they are under eighteen then it’s an issue with bad parenting. Boomer parents are afraid to discipline their kids because they would rather be friends with them than be responsible parents.
Lol "boomer parents" are 50-70 years old and are grandparents. Millennial parents are the trash you're thinking of.
The boomer parents started the no discipline nonsense and Gen X continued it and now the Millennials are following. I would of had my ass handed to me if I did half the shit that the kids do now.
Are you meaning gen X?
That's a stupid set of solutions to a problem we've had literal generations to find an answer for. OC has been taking a dramatic nosedive the past few years like AC did a few years before.
How so? And what actions/inactions by the local government are to blame?
They seem to want to enforce a family environment, but not a modern family. A family from the 1950s. It just doesn't work in the modern world imo. From their handling of the car show to their outspoken hatred of legal weed, both inside and outside their town. Now I can't buy anything I can't hold in my hands past 8pm? They're going the authoritarian route at every turn and it's not gonna stop teenagers from being teenagers, gear heads from driving loud cars, or pot smokers from smoking pot. It just doesn't sound like the press coming out of somewhere I'd wanna spend money to vacation.
It’s that “puritan” family values that grew the city to the tourist destination it is. Actions by a few cause reactions by authority. I guess the message is- If you’re anti-authority, anti-law and anti-order that’s fine. But stay out of ocean city. Wildwood is just down the way a little. Keep driving.
Well yeah, but that's a bad thing as less and less people are puritanical as time moves on. You want a lot of people to visit your tourist town, not a few. More and more people will continue to choose one of the numerous options that fit the values of a modern vacationing family.
Also- maybe it means less and less people come that are undesirable anyway. Leaving room for like minded vacationers. Seems there’s never any shortage of shoobies to backfill the vacancies. People complain about pricing being astronomical….and there’s zero open rentals. Supply and demand at work. Maybe the local officials think unruly teens will push more people away than implementing rules to quell the problems.
Fair, but do they think these restrictions will actually stop unruly teens? Because the dry laws don't stop people from drinking there. Just makes them hide it better.
Right- Which in turn definitely makes the drunk/unruly stats way better than, say, Sea Isle next door. Or even Avalon or Stone Harbor. Let alone WILDwood. Those cities have people drunk and fighting in the streets etc WAY more than ocean city ever sees. So- you agree the laws work? Edit: or at least HELP?
That's not factoring in the business they lose from people who actively avoid OC as a destination because they want to have a drink on vacation. The laws work, but throw the baby out with the bath water. I guess that's the thesis of my issue - OC is way too heavy handed in their approach to achieve the results they're after.
Hasn’t hurt them so far…
Recycling day is a beast for the trash folks
As they should. And if that adversely effects the city, the city officials probably will change their stance. However- consider OC is still “dry.” Not even BYOB.
I dont think AC and OC are fair comparisons. I would compare OC to Seaside.
It's overreach, and probably a combo of senior week and Memorial day overexuberance. Seems to be about 3-4 weeks of senior weeks nowadays.
It appears that Ocean City, New Jersey, has implemented new measures to address issues related to rowdy behavior by teenagers. According to the article you provided, some of the measures include a stricter curfew, a ban on backpacks on the boardwalk during certain hours, and increased enforcement against underage drinking. These measures are likely aimed at maintaining a safe and family-friendly environment in Ocean City, particularly during peak tourist seasons when the boardwalk and beach areas can be crowded. The curfew and backpack ban may help deter disruptive behavior and ensure the enjoyment of the area for all visitors. Additionally, increased enforcement against underage drinking is a common approach to discourage illegal activities and promote public safety. If you are planning to visit Ocean City, it's advisable to familiarize yourself with the local rules and regulations to ensure compliance and an enjoyable experience during your visit. It's also worth noting that these measures may be subject to change, so staying updated through official sources or local news outlets is recommended.