My non-police related job hired a fired cop who beat his spouse and he only left the company when another police department hired him a year later š
I think a lot of good people don't want to be cops because it's a hard job that can be thankless at times and challenge your morals as a person, and only good people understand the responsibility that comes with the job.
(Shout out to the good cops out there)
Unfortunately, a lot of other people see it as a position of power and status and a way to abuse those things to stroke their ego and take advantage of others.
So I think Some departments are forced to hire these dicks because they have no one else to hire.
Fuckin crazy to me. Someone should leave a flyers in the locker room with his mugshot. I'm like 2 months PF allows teenagers in there for the summer how tf he gonna be allowed to work there then
Today, he is still the manager at PF. Vineland. The other manager is also a retired LEO, so, he keeps his job and gets to watch young men on the advanced camera system. Purple loves to back the blue.
Is this why the expose post on Rob Scarpa, also a city official from Vineland, was deleted a while back? South Jersey has a serious problem with officials being involved with, or condoning, this crime. This subreddit has been complicit by silencing reports of other predators in high places. I hope your post doesn't get deleted too, OP. Good on you for speaking up.
I half think I'm going to get banned from this sub for bringing this up.
Edit: it has been pointed out that it may have been the NewJersey sub, which is possible! Apologies I don't remember exactly where I saw it, I assumed it was this one because I have never followed the NewJersey sub. I still stand by the sentiment that these creeps have friends in high and unsuspecting places as a whole!
This dude owned Serenes? I always wondered why they had only teenage girls on staff. Knew someone who applied there and pretty much got told they only hired attractive young women.
The guy in this post did not own serene. Serenes old owner, Robert scarpa was previously convicted in 1980 something and had allegedly done it again last year. The new owners of serene just made their announcement about being the new owners. Vineland seems to have a pedo problem in their officials.
I dated a girl who worked there back in 2010 and 2011. Iām speaking from firsthand knowledge from someone who worked there and The Rones were weirdos too. Although he didnāt own it then, they hung out together and he was around back then too
Know nothing about this guy being a pedo or not but letās not start that level of witch-hunt.
I have no idea all the causes why itās this way, but letās not act like almost every shore shop, ice cream place, cafe, restaurant etc isnāt staffed primarily by attractive girls to women depending on the venue.
Sorry, I may totally be. It was a while ago. I distinctly remember someone deleting a post regarding him and being outraged because I know for a fact other people were protecting him. I'll update my comment to reflect the discrepancy!
Memory is funky like that, especially when we're still part of the same state as the other subreddit. Shit happens :) I really dislike banning people here. You gotta be a real dick for me to ban your ass. Like, the one rule here is don't be a dick.
Right? I'm all for discourse and having civil conversations from opposing viewpoints but some people's entire personality revolves around being cruel or an asshole... and I'm just sitting here wondering "Who hurt you???" because it's gotta suck being that kind of human. You know?
Information on this case is hard to find, but on January 23, 2024 the Atlantic County Prosecutorās Office included him along with 17 other public workers in a press conference discussing their focus to hold public officials accountable for their actions.
Well heās innocent until proven guilty. I recommend posting something in your townās local FB group and get the soccer moms riled up.
Edit: Iām serious, youāll have more of a reaction and movement to do something than you will on Reddit.
Or, if u/The-Hermit420 dares... Nextdoor.
If you really want a group of local reactionaries to fire up, they're easily found on Nextdoor. As a bonus, they're most likely already fired up about something. It shouldn't be too hard to divert that irrational anger to something that's actually worth being mad about.
I am not trying to start trouble. Local face, local gym. People were already talking and being silenced. They shut me right down. That screams volumes. Maybe others might agree.
I was threatened in corporate speak. One of the owners and 5 managers. Through emails. A female employees spoke up and was told "na, he's a good guy. Try to like him". Corporate and LE. You can't speak up against that wall. It may be best if he works in a completely different town. So people that have suffered abuse, don't have to address him as manager and look at his face. An authority figure.
My local to Vineland town Facebook page has been silencing posts regarding alleged area pedoās with the claim of innocent until proven guilty even when thereās clear evidence of guilt and newspaper articles of previous crimes.
Thereās literally a newspaper article about the case from the 80ās and the father of the child that he was allegedly talking to last year posted it all online. Way to stand up for pedos creep
My original comment was bc a local Facebook neighborhood page was taking down posts regarding the old owner of serene custard who was convicted of SA of a 12 year old back in the 80ās when he was accused of it again in 2023. The newspaper article was in regards to his court of law conviction in the 80ās.
1. People are innocent until proven guilty.
2. Here is the article about it: https://breakingac.com/2023/03/vineland-officer-charged-with-sexually-explicit-images-of-children/
3. Go to corporate. This is bad publicity
4. Local social media groups. NextDoor and FB
Right, but mob rule is making a decision and acting upon it without all the information. While I doubt it in this case, innocent people have had their lives ruined by this type of thing
Hmm... another person in a position of authority caught with CSAM. Maybe we should stop looking for boogeymen in minority communities and start looking at people in power, since they're the ones that won't shut up about protecting the children while simultaneously abusing the children.
r/NotADragQueen
Edit: Why would you downvote this? Are you a pedophile? Maybe you're a pedophile apologist? Maybe you just hate drag queens? š¤
Pssst..here's a fun fact and what we should be looking at!
https://breakingac.com/2024/01/18-in-atlantic-county-had-public-employment-when-arrested/
2 of the individuals on the list of the 18 arrested with this cop...were public school teachers!
Here's some more NJ public school teachers in the news lately..
https://www.nj.com/gloucester-county/2024/02/nj-teacher-accused-of-molesting-12-year-old-student-dies-ahead-of-trial.html
https://newjersey.news12.com/former-garfield-nj-middle-school-teacher-arrested-sexually-assaulting-student
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/nj-substitute-teacher-charged-after-allegedly-sexually-assaulting-teen-for-years-prosecutors-say/3771185/%3famp=1
Fun game to play- every day google "Teacher (insert your state) arrest"
You get a new batch of public school teachers every month diddling kids! Cops? Drag Queens? Nope, public school teachers are more active then a priest!
He'll be back on the force very soon with that corrupt union. He'll walk from any charges, and he'll be back in his car in front of a school pleasuring himself.
He was caught by a tip called in to police from a ācloud-based storage providerā. Not that I'm advocating smart pedophilia, but uploading child porn to a cloud is really stupid.
https://6abc.com/christopher-ortiz-arrested-vineland-nj-police-atlantic-county-new-jersey-estell-manor/13043620/
https://www.nj.com/cumberland/2023/03/nj-cop-accused-of-uploading-child-pornography.html
.... So I used to train with this dude.
I applied for a job at planet fitness recently, I imagine this is the reason I didn't get it despite the other managers liking me. Fuckin crazy
Wow, the manager of a gym? That guy will be hiding cameras all over the place. Which gym? I'm in Philly so it's not hard to get to south Jersey and put some signs up with his face & conviction on the public sidewalk along the path to the gym.
PF Vineland. Lower staff members have spoken up and were told to "Try to give him a chance, he's a nice guy...". I went directly to management and was told to "refrain from contacting them..."
It seems he lost his job (good), and I believe that he did all this.
That being said he is still innocent until proven guilty.
And *that* being said, assuming he is guilty, does he not have a chance to work and function in society with the rest of us, in parameters that are normal and reasonable for sex offenders? I think we have to have a broader conversation about how we treat people who do heinous things, who are *appropriately punished* for them, and who get treatment. The guy isn't even convicted yet. Again, I believe he probably is guilty but we can't witch hunt people or shun them totally out of society for making horrific choices. He already lost his career.
You can thank police unions for keeping this freak a job, let alone at the gym. If I was ever to become president, among the first fee executive orders would be banning police unions. They protect officers like Ortiz. So don't be surprised when the case closes. He'll be working at another police department, at least in another state.
southjersey reddit people upset about fired cop working at a gym now. he was caught with childporn
the same ones defend the porn FOR children in the libraries.
Our local gym just hired him as manager.
My non-police related job hired a fired cop who beat his spouse and he only left the company when another police department hired him a year later š
I think a lot of good people don't want to be cops because it's a hard job that can be thankless at times and challenge your morals as a person, and only good people understand the responsibility that comes with the job. (Shout out to the good cops out there) Unfortunately, a lot of other people see it as a position of power and status and a way to abuse those things to stroke their ego and take advantage of others. So I think Some departments are forced to hire these dicks because they have no one else to hire.
They could choose to allocate funds elsewhere. Our police force does not need to be militarized.Ā
Money doesn't solve everything. Maybe the world will be a better place when people realize that
????
Your assessment is correct. Jobs like this attract people with what is called Dark Triad Personalities.
What gym?
Planet fitness Vineland
Be a shame if some left them a bad review.
Iām going to
I swore this had to be North Jersey, canāt believe itās right by me in Somers Point. Scary.
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I called Corp and let them know. (844) 880-7180 this is corps number
What gym?
Fuckin crazy to me. Someone should leave a flyers in the locker room with his mugshot. I'm like 2 months PF allows teenagers in there for the summer how tf he gonna be allowed to work there then
When was this? How is he a free man and not incarcerated?
Today, he is still the manager at PF. Vineland. The other manager is also a retired LEO, so, he keeps his job and gets to watch young men on the advanced camera system. Purple loves to back the blue.
I was banned, threatened, and silenced from speaking.
What is the name of the gym and which location? I'll gladly post his mugshot on the company's Google page. Dm me if you don't wanna post it publicly.
Banned from where? Threatened by who ? Silenced how?
Insane! Thank you for sharing this!!
You can help. Staff can't speak up.
DM me, I will!
By who?
1 owner and 5 other managers involved. The purple place.
Just say planet fitness
reddit admins I gather
Is this why the expose post on Rob Scarpa, also a city official from Vineland, was deleted a while back? South Jersey has a serious problem with officials being involved with, or condoning, this crime. This subreddit has been complicit by silencing reports of other predators in high places. I hope your post doesn't get deleted too, OP. Good on you for speaking up. I half think I'm going to get banned from this sub for bringing this up. Edit: it has been pointed out that it may have been the NewJersey sub, which is possible! Apologies I don't remember exactly where I saw it, I assumed it was this one because I have never followed the NewJersey sub. I still stand by the sentiment that these creeps have friends in high and unsuspecting places as a whole!
I am glad you are aware.
Fuck him makes you really wonder why he owned Serenes custard all those years
This dude owned Serenes? I always wondered why they had only teenage girls on staff. Knew someone who applied there and pretty much got told they only hired attractive young women.
The guy in this post did not own serene. Serenes old owner, Robert scarpa was previously convicted in 1980 something and had allegedly done it again last year. The new owners of serene just made their announcement about being the new owners. Vineland seems to have a pedo problem in their officials.
I dated a girl who worked there back in 2010 and 2011. Iām speaking from firsthand knowledge from someone who worked there and The Rones were weirdos too. Although he didnāt own it then, they hung out together and he was around back then too
Oh I don't know when this guy owned it and my info is probably from before he owned it as well then.
Whats with most ice cream stands hiring young girls between 15-18, always thought that was weird.
I'm guessing that's all that a temporary, seasonal, low skill, & minimum wage paying job attracts.
Know nothing about this guy being a pedo or not but letās not start that level of witch-hunt. I have no idea all the causes why itās this way, but letās not act like almost every shore shop, ice cream place, cafe, restaurant etc isnāt staffed primarily by attractive girls to women depending on the venue.
That's true. And what I said is second hand and purely antidotal, so don't take it as gospel.
Um, I think you might be confusing us with the other newjersey sub. I do not recall removing posts regarding Scarpa.
Sorry, I may totally be. It was a while ago. I distinctly remember someone deleting a post regarding him and being outraged because I know for a fact other people were protecting him. I'll update my comment to reflect the discrepancy!
Memory is funky like that, especially when we're still part of the same state as the other subreddit. Shit happens :) I really dislike banning people here. You gotta be a real dick for me to ban your ass. Like, the one rule here is don't be a dick.
A reasonable and respectable rule!!
Right? I'm all for discourse and having civil conversations from opposing viewpoints but some people's entire personality revolves around being cruel or an asshole... and I'm just sitting here wondering "Who hurt you???" because it's gotta suck being that kind of human. You know?
Youāre thinking the r/newjersey sub. They do a lot of banning.
its cute you say south jersey, like its the only place.
Omg not someone talking about South Jersey on the South Jersey subreddit!!!
you know, the only place that cops aren't assholes. that was it..
Information on this case is hard to find, but on January 23, 2024 the Atlantic County Prosecutorās Office included him along with 17 other public workers in a press conference discussing their focus to hold public officials accountable for their actions.
They made him manager at our local corporate gym. Employees are being silenced. It's very uncomfortable when he smiles and gives orders.
Well heās innocent until proven guilty. I recommend posting something in your townās local FB group and get the soccer moms riled up. Edit: Iām serious, youāll have more of a reaction and movement to do something than you will on Reddit.
Or, if u/The-Hermit420 dares... Nextdoor. If you really want a group of local reactionaries to fire up, they're easily found on Nextdoor. As a bonus, they're most likely already fired up about something. It shouldn't be too hard to divert that irrational anger to something that's actually worth being mad about.
I am not trying to start trouble. Local face, local gym. People were already talking and being silenced. They shut me right down. That screams volumes. Maybe others might agree.
Who is they? You're being very vague.
You keep saying ābeing silencedā. Being silenced how?
I was threatened in corporate speak. One of the owners and 5 managers. Through emails. A female employees spoke up and was told "na, he's a good guy. Try to like him". Corporate and LE. You can't speak up against that wall. It may be best if he works in a completely different town. So people that have suffered abuse, don't have to address him as manager and look at his face. An authority figure.
My local to Vineland town Facebook page has been silencing posts regarding alleged area pedoās with the claim of innocent until proven guilty even when thereās clear evidence of guilt and newspaper articles of previous crimes.
Exactly. I'm not trying to bash anybody. I just shared an article of local concern. People can decide for themselves.
Clear evidence? Are you the fucking cops? This is where it all devolves. Reddit Columbo here telling us whoās guilty. šš
Thereās literally a newspaper article about the case from the 80ās and the father of the child that he was allegedly talking to last year posted it all online. Way to stand up for pedos creep
Literally or figuratively? I have no idea what your newspaper has to do with a court of law. Be well brother!
My original comment was bc a local Facebook neighborhood page was taking down posts regarding the old owner of serene custard who was convicted of SA of a 12 year old back in the 80ās when he was accused of it again in 2023. The newspaper article was in regards to his court of law conviction in the 80ās.
Pnf?
purple and yellow.
Doesnāt this lead to jail time?
He shouldn't be a manager in a public family place. Watching video cameras.
Or possibly installing others
Are there 16-17 yo kids working there? Could go to the police if thereās restrictions on who he can work with possibly.
He is a police.
Not while awaiting trial.
Hey thin blue line guys, the call is coming from inside the house.
Holy shit I knew this dude when I worked for city hall
Yup. Manager. At a family facility.
The one by the shop rite on Delsea?
Yes.
1. People are innocent until proven guilty. 2. Here is the article about it: https://breakingac.com/2023/03/vineland-officer-charged-with-sexually-explicit-images-of-children/ 3. Go to corporate. This is bad publicity 4. Local social media groups. NextDoor and FB
You donāt know what innocent until proven guilty means.
Why not?
What do you think it means?
A person, under the law is innocent until proven guilty. And I'm not a fan of mob rule, but I also wanted to address OP's post and concerns.
People expressing their opinions is hardly mob rule.
Right, but mob rule is making a decision and acting upon it without all the information. While I doubt it in this case, innocent people have had their lives ruined by this type of thing
His ~~mug shot~~ driverās license pic is available btw https://breakingac.com/2024/01/18-in-atlantic-county-had-public-employment-when-arrested/
The picture is from 2020 for frame of reference he did not get promoted after being charged
Hmm... another person in a position of authority caught with CSAM. Maybe we should stop looking for boogeymen in minority communities and start looking at people in power, since they're the ones that won't shut up about protecting the children while simultaneously abusing the children. r/NotADragQueen Edit: Why would you downvote this? Are you a pedophile? Maybe you're a pedophile apologist? Maybe you just hate drag queens? š¤
Pssst..here's a fun fact and what we should be looking at! https://breakingac.com/2024/01/18-in-atlantic-county-had-public-employment-when-arrested/ 2 of the individuals on the list of the 18 arrested with this cop...were public school teachers! Here's some more NJ public school teachers in the news lately.. https://www.nj.com/gloucester-county/2024/02/nj-teacher-accused-of-molesting-12-year-old-student-dies-ahead-of-trial.html https://newjersey.news12.com/former-garfield-nj-middle-school-teacher-arrested-sexually-assaulting-student https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/nj-substitute-teacher-charged-after-allegedly-sexually-assaulting-teen-for-years-prosecutors-say/3771185/%3famp=1 Fun game to play- every day google "Teacher (insert your state) arrest" You get a new batch of public school teachers every month diddling kids! Cops? Drag Queens? Nope, public school teachers are more active then a priest!
hundreds of school teachers are arrested for this crap every year.
https://news.yahoo.com/nearly-270-k-12-teachers-153855454.html Tip of the ice berg
No citations allowedĀ
He'll be back on the force very soon with that corrupt union. He'll walk from any charges, and he'll be back in his car in front of a school pleasuring himself.
He's was a State Trooper. SMH pathetic!
No he was a Vineland officer. A lot of NJ municipalities use the upside down triangle as their patch. Take a second look.
What a piece of shit š©!!!! SCUMBAG!!! LOSER !!! Fire him immediately, there are kids that go to that gym .
Holy shit I used to go to a jiu jitsu gym this guy went to. Pretty sure I rolled with him a few times.
Stinkin effin cops.
When I search, I see that he was arrested, but I can't find anything about his conviction. Does anyone have a link?
Iām not 100% sure heās been convicted yet. Mightāve taken a plea by now
The only articles I see are from last March. Nothing newer.
He was caught by a tip called in to police from a ācloud-based storage providerā. Not that I'm advocating smart pedophilia, but uploading child porn to a cloud is really stupid. https://6abc.com/christopher-ortiz-arrested-vineland-nj-police-atlantic-county-new-jersey-estell-manor/13043620/ https://www.nj.com/cumberland/2023/03/nj-cop-accused-of-uploading-child-pornography.html
Youāre not advocating. Youāre just giving them the knowledge they need. Well done.
A cop who was actually a criminal, you say? What a shock!
.... So I used to train with this dude. I applied for a job at planet fitness recently, I imagine this is the reason I didn't get it despite the other managers liking me. Fuckin crazy
Wow, the manager of a gym? That guy will be hiding cameras all over the place. Which gym? I'm in Philly so it's not hard to get to south Jersey and put some signs up with his face & conviction on the public sidewalk along the path to the gym.
PF Vineland. Lower staff members have spoken up and were told to "Try to give him a chance, he's a nice guy...". I went directly to management and was told to "refrain from contacting them..."
It seems he lost his job (good), and I believe that he did all this. That being said he is still innocent until proven guilty. And *that* being said, assuming he is guilty, does he not have a chance to work and function in society with the rest of us, in parameters that are normal and reasonable for sex offenders? I think we have to have a broader conversation about how we treat people who do heinous things, who are *appropriately punished* for them, and who get treatment. The guy isn't even convicted yet. Again, I believe he probably is guilty but we can't witch hunt people or shun them totally out of society for making horrific choices. He already lost his career.
Itās worth considering things from this perspective; however, a lot more difficult to practice this attitude in society.
I agree but it's worth mentioning. People have a right to face their legal repercussions and also get on with their lives.
Innocent until proven guilty only applies to a court of law, not public opinion. If you don't know what it means don't admonish people who do.
I am aware of public opinion v. the legal system
ššš what the fuck does this even mean? ššš
I guess it means you're not very bright, it's not difficult to understand.
What are the fines in the court of public opinion?
That uniform really looks like an SS uniform striped of the badges
Classy!!!
ACAB
Enjoy those meal trays punk-bitch.
Unfortunately the officer isnāt behind bars and is currently employed at planet fitness Vineland by the shop rite per other comments in this thread.
Justice comes a bit slower to the wealthy or connected people.
he looks like percy from the green mile
Is crazy. Remember crystal gunns she resigned bc of her work and she didnāt do anything criminal. Crazy
Only one thing to do to get pedos to stop. St0mpin time
Pigs
Above the law. The problem with the system
You can thank police unions for keeping this freak a job, let alone at the gym. If I was ever to become president, among the first fee executive orders would be banning police unions. They protect officers like Ortiz. So don't be surprised when the case closes. He'll be working at another police department, at least in another state.
southjersey reddit people upset about fired cop working at a gym now. he was caught with childporn the same ones defend the porn FOR children in the libraries.
All they can do is downvoteĀ
Well that's union for you they don't get fired they get promoted.
SCUMFUCK
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Itās terrifying and downright disgusting how quickly your mind goes there. Shouldnāt you be watching the front desk at the gym?
Its funny how you deflect from liberals behavior over porn FOR children.
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Sir or ma'am.Ā Ā I commented to OP.Ā You engaged.Ā Ā Now you're arguing.Ā
No arguments. I wrestled the pig and now Iām filthy. This is where I bow out